Re: JYA ping

2002-10-07 Thread Meyer Wolfsheim

On Sun, 6 Oct 2002, Morlock Elloi wrote:

  It seems to be strange that he wrote at [EMAIL PROTECTED],
  an address which is also given on his web page, but
  ping pipeline.com doesn't work.

 Sorry to resort to ad hominem, but you're a technological imbecile.

 There is this magic thing in DNS called MX record. Read about it.

Not to mention the practice of blocking ICMP at the firewall, which would
result in pings not working.

-MW-




Re: JYA ping

2002-10-07 Thread Bill Stewart

At 12:38 PM 10/06/2002 +0200, Mok-Kong Shen wrote:
It seems to be strange that he wrote at [EMAIL PROTECTED],
an address which is also given on his web page, but
ping pipeline.com doesn't work.

Lots of machines don't accept pings anymore,
either for security reasons or whatever.
That's independent of whether those names accept email,
or whether you can find MX records for them.
In particular, most big ISPs have multiple machines
accepting mail; if you wanted to ping, you'd have to try
box1.bigisp.com, box2.bigisp.com, box3.bigisp.com, ...

Pipeline was in the big-ISP business, and I suspect
they've been eaten enough times that pipeline is just
an alias on a big email server farm.




Re: JYA ping

2002-10-07 Thread attila

Mok-Kong Shen wrote:
 Daniel J. Boone wrote:
[snip]

It's worth observing that this prose style is literally inimitable.  I'd say
its authentication value (in terms of persuasively suggesting that the
entity long known as JYA authored this also) is at least as strong as a
long-used PGP signature would be.

Others, having more faith in the abilities of federally-employed creative
writers, might I suppose reasonably differ.
 
 
 It seems to be strange that he wrote at [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 an address which is also given on his web page, but 
 ping pipeline.com doesn't work.
 
 M. K. Shen
 

Not strange at all, quite common in fact:

$ mxlookup pipeline.com
Server:  localhost
Address:  127.0.0.1

Non-authoritative answer:
pipeline.compreference = 5, mail exchanger = mx05.pipeline.com
pipeline.compreference = 5, mail exchanger = mx06.pipeline.com
pipeline.compreference = 5, mail exchanger = mx07.pipeline.com
pipeline.compreference = 5, mail exchanger = mx08.pipeline.com
pipeline.compreference = 5, mail exchanger = mx09.pipeline.com
pipeline.compreference = 5, mail exchanger = mx10.pipeline.com
pipeline.compreference = 5, mail exchanger = mx11.pipeline.com
pipeline.compreference = 5, mail exchanger = mx12.pipeline.com
pipeline.compreference = 5, mail exchanger = mx00.pipeline.com
pipeline.compreference = 5, mail exchanger = mx01.pipeline.com
pipeline.compreference = 5, mail exchanger = mx02.pipeline.com
pipeline.compreference = 5, mail exchanger = mx03.pipeline.com
pipeline.compreference = 5, mail exchanger = mx04.pipeline.com
$ nslookup pipeline.com
Server:  localhost
Address:  127.0.0.1

*** No address (A) records available for pipeline.com

--S




Re: JYA ping

2002-10-07 Thread Werner Koch

On Sun, 06 Oct 2002 12:38:34 +0200, Mok-Kong Shen said:

 It seems to be strange that he wrote at [EMAIL PROTECTED],
 an address which is also given on his web page, but 
 ping pipeline.com doesn't work.

If you mean ping (1) you should read some Internet basics first.

$ host -t mx pipeline.com
pipeline.comMX  5 mx05.pipeline.com
pipeline.comMX  5 mx06.pipeline.com
pipeline.comMX  5 mx07.pipeline.com
pipeline.comMX  5 mx08.pipeline.com
pipeline.comMX  5 mx09.pipeline.com
pipeline.comMX  5 mx10.pipeline.com
pipeline.comMX  5 mx11.pipeline.com
pipeline.comMX  5 mx12.pipeline.com
pipeline.comMX  5 mx00.pipeline.com
pipeline.comMX  5 mx01.pipeline.com
pipeline.comMX  5 mx02.pipeline.com
pipeline.comMX  5 mx03.pipeline.com
pipeline.comMX  5 mx04.pipeline.com


Salam-Shalom,

   Werner




Re: JYA ping

2002-10-06 Thread Mok-Kong Shen

Daniel J. Boone wrote:
 
  JYA is temporarily dead online due to work load in the DC area, near the
  armageddon push button, which is located, in case you give a, out on Route
 7
  disguised as FAA Leesburg.
 
  We paid a surprise Sunday morning visit to the CIA back entrance, got
  surrounded by HMMVs and spiffy guards with hands on guns, interrogated by
 a
  swell looking Ms. Security who ran our Duncan Frissell ID card through the
  master file, idled for 1/2 hour observing gaps in the maginot line, and
 then
  received a heartfelt thanks for cooperating, Duncan, wink.
 
  Mrs. Frissell hissed bitch as we serpentined the Jersey barriers back out
 the
  way in.
 
 It's worth observing that this prose style is literally inimitable.  I'd say
 its authentication value (in terms of persuasively suggesting that the
 entity long known as JYA authored this also) is at least as strong as a
 long-used PGP signature would be.
 
 Others, having more faith in the abilities of federally-employed creative
 writers, might I suppose reasonably differ.

It seems to be strange that he wrote at [EMAIL PROTECTED],
an address which is also given on his web page, but 
ping pipeline.com doesn't work.

M. K. Shen




RE: JYA ping

2002-10-04 Thread jya

JYA is temporarily dead online due to work load in the DC area, near the
armageddon push button, which is located, in case you give a, out on Route 7
disguised as FAA Leesburg.

We paid a surprise Sunday morning visit to the CIA back entrance, got
surrounded by HMMVs and spiffy guards with hands on guns, interrogated by a
swell looking Ms. Security who ran our Duncan Frissell ID card through the
master file, idled for 1/2 hour observing gaps in the maginot line, and then
received a heartfelt thanks for cooperating, Duncan, wink.

Mrs. Frissell hissed bitch as we serpentined the Jersey barriers back out the
way in.




RE: JYA ping

2002-10-04 Thread Duncan Frissell

On Fri, 4 Oct 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 We paid a surprise Sunday morning visit to the CIA back entrance, got
 surrounded by HMMVs and spiffy guards with hands on guns, interrogated by a
 swell looking Ms. Security who ran our Duncan Frissell ID card through the
 master file, idled for 1/2 hour observing gaps in the maginot line, and then
 received a heartfelt thanks for cooperating, Duncan, wink.

Aren't you glad that I kept my files vacuumed just for you?  Clean
Team-Dirty Team.  Works every time.

DCF


Don't nuke Mecca.  Build a cathedral there instead.




Re: JYA ping

2002-10-03 Thread Graham Lally

Eugen Leitl wrote:
 On Wed, 2 Oct 2002, Anonymous wrote:
 
Cryptome has nor been updated since 9/23 ... any clues, anyone ?
 
 No. Anyone knows whether John Young is okay?

Can't get through to http://www.jya.com/ either (plus Google hasn't cached 
it, for some reason...?) - can't resolve it at all.




RE: JYA ping

2002-10-03 Thread Trei, Peter

 Graham Lally[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote:
 
 Eugen Leitl wrote:
  On Wed, 2 Oct 2002, Anonymous wrote:
  
 Cryptome has nor been updated since 9/23 ... any clues, anyone ?
  
  No. Anyone knows whether John Young is okay?
 
 Can't get through to http://www.jya.com/ either (plus Google hasn't cached
 
 it, for some reason...?) - can't resolve it at all.
 
I can't get through to www.jya.com either, but cryptome.org comes
through fine. 

At the bottom of the initial document list, I find the line:

19 August 2002: The JYA.com archive is temporarily unavailable during
relocation.

Considering the glitches and mis-steps that often accompany server
relocation, I'm not too worried - yet.

It would be nice if John would drop the list a note.

Peter Trei




Re: JYA ping

2002-10-03 Thread Mok-Kong Shen

Trei, Peter wrote:
 

 I can't get through to www.jya.com either, but cryptome.org comes
 through fine.
[snip]

At www.cryptome.org he gave his address as [EMAIL PROTECTED],
but ping pipeline.com doesn't work.

M. K. Shen




Re: JYA ping

2002-10-02 Thread Eugen Leitl

On Wed, 2 Oct 2002, Anonymous wrote:

 Cryptome has nor been updated since 9/23 ... any clues, anyone ?

No. Anyone knows whether John Young is okay?