Re: pgp global directory bugged instructions

2004-12-18 Thread Justin
On 2004-12-16T05:50:22-0500, Adam Back wrote:
 
 So PGP are now running a pgp key server which attempts to consolidate
 the inforamtion from the existing key servers, but screen it by
 ability to receive email at the address.
 ...
 So here's the problem: it does not mention anything about checking
 that this is your fingerprint.

What about the fact that they're tying key validity to valid email
addresses, when the two have nothing to do with each other?  A key does
not need to have an associated email address, or the latter could be
purposely incorrect.

If this is their idea of key verification, they're going to exclude
perfectly legitimate keys from this new database.



Re: pgp global directory bugged instructions

2004-12-18 Thread Jon Callas
Thanks for the bug report. We appreciate your help in fine-tuning the 
language in the verification emails of the beta test of the PGP Global 
Directory. We noticed this one, ourselves, and put out an improvement 
to it on Tuesday. Please check it over and see what you think of the 
improved version.

If you would like to send bug reports to us directly, please feel free 
to send them to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cypherpunks and Cryptography are both 
inefficient ways to get them to us, as Cryptography waits for Perry to 
approve the post, and Cypherpunks waits for Bob Hettinga to forward it.

However, the Global Directory does not consolidate information from any 
other keyservers. It is a replacement for the old keyserver, 
keyserver.pgp.com, and will take over that venerable old server's job 
once beta test is concluded. We are, however, migrating a number of 
keys from the old keyserver to that one.

Think of the new keyserver as a mix between traditional keyservers, 
mailing list servers like mailman, and a robot CA. Its intent is to 
improve upon the older keyservers by giving some modicum of assurance 
that keys in it belong to someone, as well as allowing someones to 
recover from forgetting their passphrase.

Jon
On 16 Dec 2004, at 7:13 AM, R.A. Hettinga wrote:
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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 2004 05:50:22 -0500
From: Adam Back [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Cypherpunks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: Cryptography [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: pgp global directory bugged instructions
User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.1i
Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
So PGP are now running a pgp key server which attempts to consilidate
the inforamtion from the existing key servers, but screen it by
ability to receive email at the address.
So they send you an email with a link in it and you go there and it
displays your key userid, keyid, fingerprint and email address.
Then it says:
| Please verify that the email address on this key, [EMAIL PROTECTED],
| is your email address, and is properly configured to send and
| receive PGP secured email.
|
| If the information is correct, click 'Accept'. By clicking 'Accept',
| your key will be published to the directory, where other PGP users
| will be able to retrieve it in order to encrypt messages to you and
| verify signed messages from you.
|
| If this information is incorrect, click 'Cancel'. By clicking
| 'Cancel', this key will not be published. You may then submit
| another key with the correct information.
So here's the problem: it does not mention anything about checking
that this is your fingerprint.  If it's not your fingerprint but it is
your email address you could end up DoSing yourself, or at least
perpetuating a imposter key into the new supposedly email validated
keyserver db.
(For example on some key servers there are keys with my name and email
that are nothing to do with me -- they are pure forgeries).
Suggest they add something to say in red letters check the fingerprint
AND keyid matches your key.
Adam
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