Re: pledge of allegiance in schools

2003-03-06 Thread professor rat
One major news about which I have personal knowledge once decided the 
best poll questions were Mac vs. PC and gun rights vs. gun control. (Maybe 
nowadays Microsoft vs. Linux would be up there too.) -Declan 

Maybe CATO vs the black bloc?

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Re: pledge of allegiance in schools

2003-03-03 Thread Declan McCullagh
On Sat, Mar 01, 2003 at 04:40:14PM -, lcs Mixmaster Remailer wrote:
 The polls done by these news sites are not designed to gain an 
 accurate, statistically valid measure of opinion, rather they 
 are designed as user participation devices to get involvement 
 by the user with the web site. Like Rush Limbaugh or Donahue, 

Yep, that's about right. One addition is that during the advertising
peak, it was also a cheap and easy way to boost revenue. One major news
about which I have personal knowledge once decided the best poll
questions were Mac vs. PC and gun rights vs. gun control. (Maybe
nowadays Microsoft vs. Linux would be up there too.)

-Declan



Re: pledge of allegiance in schools

2003-03-03 Thread gann
Did they actually say, This is the exact legal issue at stake, or are they
not allowed to poll against any questions they want, even if dreamed up? Can
they poll for instance on, Is Adam allowed to criticize our polls even
though he is not in threat of inferred squelching?

Maybe those of us who see through this cloud also investigate issues
ourselves, are more intelligent, and can help rally like-minded citizens to
vote, thus allowing some level of sanity to persist, even if only noticeable
over time.

Of course the news is about generating revenue. I doubt that most news
conglomerates were created out of the good will and intentions of portraying
the most important topics as accurately as possible.

For what it's worth, I am in favor of unbiased and fair news coverage and
100% truth in advertising. If you have not been proven to currently have the
best taste in town, then you should be fined for making such a claim.

Erle


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- Original Message -
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Sent: Saturday, March 01, 2003 12:17 AM
Subject: pledge of allegiance in schools


 Look at this shit on fox news, look how they bias the question and
 mis-represent the issue.

 They ask Should children be allowed to say the Pledge of Allegiance
 in school?.  As if the children wanted to, and were being prevented!

 http://q13.trb.com

 and the stats after voting no -- 88% yes.

 Adam







Re: pledge of allegiance in schools

2003-03-02 Thread lcs Mixmaster Remailer
On Sat, 1 Mar 2003 06:17:25 +, you wrote:

 Look at this shit on fox news, look how they bias the question and
 mis-represent the issue.

 They ask Should children be allowed to say the Pledge of Allegiance
 in school?.  As if the children wanted to, and were being prevented!

 http://q13.trb.com

 and the stats after voting no -- 88% yes.

 Adam

The polls done by these news sites are not designed to gain an 
accurate, statistically valid measure of opinion, rather they 
are designed as user participation devices to get involvement 
by the user with the web site. Like Rush Limbaugh or Donahue, 
the networks magnify controversy to gain interest. Probably the 
same group that watches professional wrestling, thrives on this 
kind of rabble rousing. No one takes them seriously. They are 
about building readership and money, not learning and conveying 
the truth.

~~~



pledge of allegiance in schools

2003-03-02 Thread Adam Back
Look at this shit on fox news, look how they bias the question and
mis-represent the issue.

They ask Should children be allowed to say the Pledge of Allegiance
in school?.  As if the children wanted to, and were being prevented!

http://q13.trb.com

and the stats after voting no -- 88% yes.

Adam