Re: [czernowitz-l] Austrian Passport
Fred Weisinger fredhotman @yahoo,com,@ list. cornell. edu to Czernowitz-L To all those interested I would suggest trying the Austrian Consulate & or Embassy in your area first solicitors can prolong be expensive, next those that were young & deported never carried any documents on their persons ,it was the parents. Czernowitz authorities have the original birth register. Up to 1920 Bukovina was Austrian if you remember ,some stories of your parents' past bring it up. Whatever you do try the Austrian Embassy or Consulate directly they will advise you no guessing. Got mine within 4 month. Good luck alles beste On Sun, Nov 28, 2021 at 6:23 AM David Dukes wrote: > > Generally speaking, under the new Austrian citizenship law you shouldn’t need > a lawyer to apply. The documentation requirements would be on the Austrian > Embassy in Israel website . I’m sure they will be cooperative. > The main issue is how many of these documents you still hold or can get hold > of, especially the birth certificates going back to the original Austrian > citizen in the family. > > I was fortunate that my father was always very careful with documentation and > took a complete set with him when he left Vienna in 1938 for Palestine. > > Regards > David Dukes > •Sent from phone > > > On 27 Nov 2021, at 6:46 pm, Shaul Morgenstern > > wrote: > > > > Hi, > > > > I am in a similar situation. My parents-Morgenstern moved from Cernowitz to > > Radautz in 1939 and then to Transnistria-Mogilev in 1941. I was borne in > > 1945 in Radautz after their return from the 4 years "holidays". As from > > 1970 I am leaving in Israel. > > I would appreciate receiving the same information as required by Alisa. > > > > Many thanks in advance > > > > Kind Regards, > > > > Shaul Morgenstern > > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: bounce-126108561-78919...@list.cornell.edu > > On Behalf Of alisa lottati > > Sent: Friday, November 26, 2021 8:07 AM > > To: czernowitz-l@list.cornell.edu > > Subject: [czernowitz-l] Austrian Passport > > > > Hi, > > I would like to obtain Austrian citizenship as a descendent of parents from > > Radauti Bukovina , who were deported to Transnistria, Moghilev. > > I was wondering if anyone who went through this process could advise about > > the documents I need and if I have to go through a lawyer which would be > > very expensive, or could I forward the documents I’ll need, directly to the > > embassy. > > Thank you so much, > > Alisa Lottati > > > > Sent from my iPad > > > > *** > > This moderated discussion group is for information exchange on the subject > > of Czernowitz and Sadagora Jewish History and Genealogy. The opinions > > expressed in these posts are the opinions of the original poster only and > > not necessarily the opinions of the List Owner, the Webmaster or any other > > members or entities connected with this mailing list. The Czernowitz-L > > list has an associated web site at http://czernowitz.ehpes.com that > > includes a searchable archive of all messages posted to this list. > > Beginning in 2021, archived messages can be found at: > > https://www.mail-archive.com/czernowitz-l@list.cornell.edu/ > > > > To send mail to the list, address it to . > > > > To remove your address from this e-list follow the directions at > > https://it.cornell.edu/lyris/leave-e-lists-lyris > > > > To receive assistance for this e-list send an e-mail message to: > > owner-czernowit...@list.cornell.edu > > - > > > > > > *** > > This moderated discussion group is for information exchange on the subject > > of > > Czernowitz and Sadagora Jewish History and Genealogy. The opinions expressed > > in these posts are the opinions of the original poster only and not > > necessarily > > the opinions of the List Owner, the Webmaster or any other members > > or entities connected with this mailing list. The Czernowitz-L list has > > an associated web site at http://czernowitz.ehpes.com that includes a > > searchable archive of all messages posted to this list. Beginning in 2021, > > archived messages can be found at: > > https://www.mail-archive.com/czernowitz-l@list.cornell.edu/ > > > > To send mail to the list, address it to . > > > > To remove your address from this e-list follow the directions at > > https://it.cornell.edu/lyris/leave-e-lists-lyris > > > > To receive assistance for this e-list send an e-mail message to: > > owner-czernowit...@list.cornell.edu > > - > > > > *** > This moderated discussion group is for information exchange on the subject of > Czernowitz and Sadagora Jewish History and Genealogy.
Re: [czernowitz-l] Austrian Passport
Generally speaking, under the new Austrian citizenship law you shouldn’t need a lawyer to apply. The documentation requirements would be on the Austrian Embassy in Israel website . I’m sure they will be cooperative. The main issue is how many of these documents you still hold or can get hold of, especially the birth certificates going back to the original Austrian citizen in the family. I was fortunate that my father was always very careful with documentation and took a complete set with him when he left Vienna in 1938 for Palestine. Regards David Dukes •Sent from phone > On 27 Nov 2021, at 6:46 pm, Shaul Morgenstern > wrote: > > Hi, > > I am in a similar situation. My parents-Morgenstern moved from Cernowitz to > Radautz in 1939 and then to Transnistria-Mogilev in 1941. I was borne in 1945 > in Radautz after their return from the 4 years "holidays". As from 1970 I am > leaving in Israel. > I would appreciate receiving the same information as required by Alisa. > > Many thanks in advance > > Kind Regards, > > Shaul Morgenstern > > > -Original Message- > From: bounce-126108561-78919...@list.cornell.edu > On Behalf Of alisa lottati > Sent: Friday, November 26, 2021 8:07 AM > To: czernowitz-l@list.cornell.edu > Subject: [czernowitz-l] Austrian Passport > > Hi, > I would like to obtain Austrian citizenship as a descendent of parents from > Radauti Bukovina , who were deported to Transnistria, Moghilev. > I was wondering if anyone who went through this process could advise about > the documents I need and if I have to go through a lawyer which would be very > expensive, or could I forward the documents I’ll need, directly to the > embassy. > Thank you so much, > Alisa Lottati > > Sent from my iPad > > *** > This moderated discussion group is for information exchange on the subject of > Czernowitz and Sadagora Jewish History and Genealogy. The opinions expressed > in these posts are the opinions of the original poster only and not > necessarily the opinions of the List Owner, the Webmaster or any other > members or entities connected with this mailing list. The Czernowitz-L list > has an associated web site at http://czernowitz.ehpes.com that includes a > searchable archive of all messages posted to this list. Beginning in 2021, > archived messages can be found at: > https://www.mail-archive.com/czernowitz-l@list.cornell.edu/ > > To send mail to the list, address it to . > > To remove your address from this e-list follow the directions at > https://it.cornell.edu/lyris/leave-e-lists-lyris > > To receive assistance for this e-list send an e-mail message to: > owner-czernowit...@list.cornell.edu > - > > > *** > This moderated discussion group is for information exchange on the subject of > > Czernowitz and Sadagora Jewish History and Genealogy. The opinions expressed > in these posts are the opinions of the original poster only and not > necessarily > the opinions of the List Owner, the Webmaster or any other members > or entities connected with this mailing list. The Czernowitz-L list has > an associated web site at http://czernowitz.ehpes.com that includes a > searchable archive of all messages posted to this list. Beginning in 2021, > archived messages can be found at: > https://www.mail-archive.com/czernowitz-l@list.cornell.edu/ > > To send mail to the list, address it to . > > To remove your address from this e-list follow the directions at > https://it.cornell.edu/lyris/leave-e-lists-lyris > > To receive assistance for this e-list send an e-mail message to: > owner-czernowit...@list.cornell.edu > - > *** This moderated discussion group is for information exchange on the subject of Czernowitz and Sadagora Jewish History and Genealogy. The opinions expressed in these posts are the opinions of the original poster only and not necessarily the opinions of the List Owner, the Webmaster or any other members or entities connected with this mailing list. The Czernowitz-L list has an associated web site at http://czernowitz.ehpes.com that includes a searchable archive of all messages posted to this list. Beginning in 2021, archived messages can be found at: https://www.mail-archive.com/czernowitz-l@list.cornell.edu/ To send mail to the list, address it to . To remove your address from this e-list follow the directions at https://it.cornell.edu/lyris/leave-e-lists-lyris To receive assistance for this e-list send an e-mail message to: owner-czernowit...@list.cornell.edu -
RE: [czernowitz-l] Austrian Passport
Hello all I did attempt the Austrian route. I live in London and went on the British website of the Austrian Embassy to find the link which gives you the long list of documents they require. Any documents that are not Austrian have to be apostilled in the country they originate from. In the UK the Foreign Office apostilles any UK documents. Documents may also need to be translated (by an official accredited translator) into German. The list includes a demand for the address your parents/ grandparents lived at in Austria (or what constituted Austria) - I suppose with some proof - which is particularly difficult. Any Romanian papers for instance need to be sent to Bucharest to be apostilled and that can be risky in terms of them getting lost and never reaching the right authorities or never getting back to you. (this is what the Romanian Embassy told me personally). As Czernowitz and Radauti were Romanian in 1939 you may well have many papers from Romania. It would of course be easier if you happened to have relevant papers dating back from the Austrian Monarchy and can prove parentage etc. I personally think that your chances of success depend largely on the amount of your parent's documentation you still have. I know some members of this group have not had any difficulty but I believe their ancestry was easy to trace back with official papers. The Austrian Embassy website in Israel where Shaul lives is the first port of call for him - the equivalent Embassy for Alisa will also have a website. I would not send any papers without first checking carefully you have everything on their list. I did find it very difficult. I am by no means an expert but speak only from personal experience. I have decided to try the Romanian Passport route as I have found a friendly and welcoming reception at the Romanian Embassy here (I was born in Romania with grandparents from the Bukovina on both sides) Good luck and kind regards Karin Good luck -Original Message- From: bounce-126109022-87608...@list.cornell.edu On Behalf Of Shaul Morgenstern Sent: 27 November 2021 13:30 To: czernowit...@cornell.edu Cc: 'alisa lottati' Subject: RE: [czernowitz-l] Austrian Passport Hi, I am in a similar situation. My parents-Morgenstern moved from Cernowitz to Radautz in 1939 and then to Transnistria-Mogilev in 1941. I was borne in 1945 in Radautz after their return from the 4 years "holidays". As from 1970 I am leaving in Israel. I would appreciate receiving the same information as required by Alisa. Many thanks in advance Kind Regards, Shaul Morgenstern -Original Message- From: bounce-126108561-78919...@list.cornell.edu On Behalf Of alisa lottati Sent: Friday, November 26, 2021 8:07 AM To: czernowitz-l@list.cornell.edu Subject: [czernowitz-l] Austrian Passport Hi, I would like to obtain Austrian citizenship as a descendent of parents from Radauti Bukovina , who were deported to Transnistria, Moghilev. I was wondering if anyone who went through this process could advise about the documents I need and if I have to go through a lawyer which would be very expensive, or could I forward the documents I’ll need, directly to the embassy. Thank you so much, Alisa Lottati Sent from my iPad *** This moderated discussion group is for information exchange on the subject of Czernowitz and Sadagora Jewish History and Genealogy. The opinions expressed in these posts are the opinions of the original poster only and not necessarily the opinions of the List Owner, the Webmaster or any other members or entities connected with this mailing list. The Czernowitz-L list has an associated web site at http://czernowitz.ehpes.com that includes a searchable archive of all messages posted to this list. Beginning in 2021, archived messages can be found at: https://www.mail-archive.com/czernowitz-l@list.cornell.edu/ To send mail to the list, address it to . To remove your address from this e-list follow the directions at https://it.cornell.edu/lyris/leave-e-lists-lyris To receive assistance for this e-list send an e-mail message to: owner-czernowit...@list.cornell.edu - *** This moderated discussion group is for information exchange on the subject of Czernowitz and Sadagora Jewish History and Genealogy. The opinions expressed in these posts are the opinions of the original poster only and not necessarily the opinions of the List Owner, the Webmaster or any other members or entities connected with this mailing list. The Czernowitz-L list has an associated web site at http://czernowitz.ehpes.com that includes a searchable archive of all messages posted to this list. Beginning in 2021, archived messages can be found at:
RE: [czernowitz-l] Austrian Passport
Hi, I am in a similar situation. My parents-Morgenstern moved from Cernowitz to Radautz in 1939 and then to Transnistria-Mogilev in 1941. I was borne in 1945 in Radautz after their return from the 4 years "holidays". As from 1970 I am leaving in Israel. I would appreciate receiving the same information as required by Alisa. Many thanks in advance Kind Regards, Shaul Morgenstern -Original Message- From: bounce-126108561-78919...@list.cornell.edu On Behalf Of alisa lottati Sent: Friday, November 26, 2021 8:07 AM To: czernowitz-l@list.cornell.edu Subject: [czernowitz-l] Austrian Passport Hi, I would like to obtain Austrian citizenship as a descendent of parents from Radauti Bukovina , who were deported to Transnistria, Moghilev. I was wondering if anyone who went through this process could advise about the documents I need and if I have to go through a lawyer which would be very expensive, or could I forward the documents I’ll need, directly to the embassy. Thank you so much, Alisa Lottati Sent from my iPad *** This moderated discussion group is for information exchange on the subject of Czernowitz and Sadagora Jewish History and Genealogy. The opinions expressed in these posts are the opinions of the original poster only and not necessarily the opinions of the List Owner, the Webmaster or any other members or entities connected with this mailing list. The Czernowitz-L list has an associated web site at http://czernowitz.ehpes.com that includes a searchable archive of all messages posted to this list. Beginning in 2021, archived messages can be found at: https://www.mail-archive.com/czernowitz-l@list.cornell.edu/ To send mail to the list, address it to . To remove your address from this e-list follow the directions at https://it.cornell.edu/lyris/leave-e-lists-lyris To receive assistance for this e-list send an e-mail message to: owner-czernowit...@list.cornell.edu - *** This moderated discussion group is for information exchange on the subject of Czernowitz and Sadagora Jewish History and Genealogy. The opinions expressed in these posts are the opinions of the original poster only and not necessarily the opinions of the List Owner, the Webmaster or any other members or entities connected with this mailing list. The Czernowitz-L list has an associated web site at http://czernowitz.ehpes.com that includes a searchable archive of all messages posted to this list. Beginning in 2021, archived messages can be found at: https://www.mail-archive.com/czernowitz-l@list.cornell.edu/ To send mail to the list, address it to . To remove your address from this e-list follow the directions at https://it.cornell.edu/lyris/leave-e-lists-lyris To receive assistance for this e-list send an e-mail message to: owner-czernowit...@list.cornell.edu -
