Re: [darktable-user] Re: Dual monitor?

[Jean-Luc Coulon (f5ibh)]

M...
There is a lot done is software, that is a fact.
But if you want "correct" results with only the software you have to
disable usage of graphic cards LUTs...

2016-04-11 22:10 GMT+02:00 Matthieu Moy :

> - Original Message -
> >
> > On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 17:43:30 +0530
> > HaJo Schatz  wrote:
> >
> > > Yes, but a gnome terminal doesn't, usually, require colour
> > > correction, IMHO :)
> > That I know. It is your graphic card that allows the window to cover a
> > number of monitors, not the program
>
> Your graphics card does not do all the color management. A lot is done in
> software, and darktable needs to know the profile of the screen it's being
> displayed on (for example, the gamut check can clearly not be implemented
> in hardware, your graphics card does not know that you want to get these
> blue dots for out-of-gamut pixels).
>
> BTW, having a window cover several screens also involves more software
> than hardware. You can get it with two graphics cards and one monitor per
> graphics card.
>
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Re: [darktable-user] Printer settings

[Pascal Obry]

Hello,

> How do I call printer settings dialog from darktable print (paper
> type, resolution, etc.)?

You can't directly from darktable. The idea is to create a CUPS queue
with the needed settings. Then with this queue do a printer
calibration. And at this point never change the settings on this queue
which will also change the print output.

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[darktable-user] Printer settings

[Timur Davletshin]

Hello everybody!

How do I call printer settings dialog from darktable print (paper type,
resolution, etc.)?

Thanks in advance.


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Re: [darktable-user] Upgrading to GTK 3.20 ruins all menus (at least in darkroom)

[Owen Mays]

I get the warnings when I launch darktable (no options) from the command
line. The warnings show up in the terminal window.

-Owen

On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 7:41 PM, Normand Fortier <
normand.fort...@cgocable.ca> wrote:

> A silly question, but how did you get the warnings? I just upgraded to gtk
> 3.20 (archlinux), if I start darktable with -d all I do not get the
> warnings as part of the output. Anyway I tried modifying
> /usr/share/darktable/darktable.css to correct the warnings, but the
> appearance of darktable does not change (still has the large buttons on
> top).
>
> Normand
>
> Le 2016-04-10 14:23, Owen Mays a écrit :
>
>> I would be happy to work on a solution if someone could point me to a
>> gtk/css reference or guide. I found this:
>> https://developer.gnome.org/gtk3/stable/GtkWidget.html#GtkWidget--s-wide-separators
>> but all it says is
>>
>> "|GtkWidget:wide-separators| has been deprecated since version 3.20 and
>> should not be used in newly-written code. Use CSS properties on the
>> separator elements to style separators; the value of this style property is
>> ignored."
>>
>> Can anyone tell me what the buttons on the top of each module are called?
>> (the on/off, presets menu, and reset buttons). It looks like their size has
>> been expanded and is pushing everything else too large.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Owen
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 12:51 PM, Pascal Obry  pas...@obry.net>> wrote:
>>
>> Le dimanche 10 avril 2016 à 12:40 -0500, Owen Mays a écrit :
>> > I have created an issue in redmine:
>> http://redmine.darktable.org/issu
>> > es/10990
>> > Let me know if there is more information that would be helpful,
>> or if
>> > there is anything else I can test.
>>
>> Nothing more until either someone with Gtk 3.20 step in or my
>> GNU/Debian sid move to 3.20 :)
>>
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[darktable-user] Re: Dual monitor?

[J. Paul Bissonnette]

On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 17:43:30 +0530
HaJo Schatz  wrote:

> Yes, but a gnome terminal doesn't, usually, require colour
> correction, IMHO :)
That I know. It is your graphic card that allows the window to cover a
number of monitors, not the program

> But when I buy a 4K Adobe-RGB monitor I'd expect
> to work with true colours ;)
Only if your graphic card is capable of it. You would be day dreaming
if you want that resolution from 39$ GeForce 210. :)

> 
> On Monday, 11 April 2016, J. Paul Bissonnette 
> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 11:51:44 +0530
> > HaJo Schatz > wrote:
> >
> > > Thank you all for your replies! A 15" laptop it is then with a
> > > larger external monitor. Now I'm only keeping my fingers crossed
> > > for dt to support both monitors (UI on one, photo on other) one
> > > day. But no big deal, I just get a larger monitor for the
> > > additionally required screen estate :)
> > >
> > > Hajo
> > >
> >
> > The graphic card is the important link. If the card supports
> > multiple monitors then any app can be stretched over them, even
> > gnome terminal.
> >
> 
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+1 for one monitor UI, one monitor image (Re: [darktable-user] Dual monitor?)

[Stéphane Gourichon]

Le 11/04/2016 08:21, HaJo Schatz a écrit :
Thank you all for your replies! A 15" laptop it is then with a larger 
external monitor. Now I'm only keeping my fingers crossed for dt to 
support both monitors (UI on one, photo on other) one day. But no big 
deal, I just get a larger monitor for the additionally required screen 
estate :)


Hajo


Aha, it looks like I'm not the only one to have this exact idea.

Also looks like:

Le 11/04/2016 01:52, darkta...@911networks.com a écrit :
Yes, I can drag it to one, but then it stays on that monitor. What I'd 
love to do is to have the lightable on the left monitor and the 
darkroom on the right.


Let me make it more explicit:

# Situation

Often I observed that there is a trade-off between space eaten by 
toolbars (especially in darkroom) and convenience.


# Idea

IMHO dual screen allows to get the best of both worlds:

* one monitor shows the lighttable /and all toolbars/ at all times
* the other monitor shows the /only/ photo being edited when in darkroom 
mode, fullscreen, no toolbar, no border


# Benefit

Dedicating the first monitor to all non-photo stuff makes available the 
*full resolution* of the second monitor to be used for the photo. The 
user would have to move the pointer often between the two screens, but 
experience working with two screens for other stuff has already proven 
IMHO  that it's not a problem.


# PoC implementation

A proof-of-concept might even be as easy to implement as " have the 
darkroom image widget in its own top-level window, instead of the center 
of the darktable window".


The user can then just drag this window to their preferred monitor and 
voilà.


What do you think?



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Re: [darktable-user] Dual monitor?

[J. Paul Bissonnette]

On Mon, 11 Apr 2016 11:51:44 +0530
HaJo Schatz  wrote:

> Thank you all for your replies! A 15" laptop it is then with a larger
> external monitor. Now I'm only keeping my fingers crossed for dt to
> support both monitors (UI on one, photo on other) one day. But no big
> deal, I just get a larger monitor for the additionally required
> screen estate :)
> 
> Hajo
> 

The graphic card is the important link. If the card supports multiple
monitors then any app can be stretched over them, even gnome terminal.

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Re: [darktable-user] Dual monitor?

[HaJo Schatz]

Thank you all for your replies! A 15" laptop it is then with a larger external 
monitor. Now I'm only keeping my fingers crossed for dt to support both 
monitors (UI on one, photo on other) one day. But no big deal, I just get a 
larger monitor for the additionally required screen estate :)

Hajo

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> On 10 Apr 2016, at 19:47, Tobias Ellinghaus  wrote:
> 
> Am Sonntag, 10. April 2016, 14:35:10 schrieb HaJo Schatz:
>> Hi group,
>> 
>> To my defense, I did try to Google - without finding any recent info... Does
>> Darktable nowadays support dual-monitors, with color-correction?
>> 
>> I'm about to buy a new laptop and am wondering whether I should rather get a
>> 17" display (Adobe-RGB ) model to do the editing there or invest in a more
>> portable 15" with simple display and have an external monitor for authentic
>> display. The latter seems an attractive option, but does darktable support
>> this?
> 
> Yes, darktable can be used on dual monitor setups with proper color 
> management 
> ( I do that myself, too). You probably want to run colord to have the system 
> be set up properly and use darktable-cmstest afterwards to check if it's ok.
> 
>> Thx a lot,
>> Hajo
> 
> Tobias


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