Re: [darktable-user] Posting large files to mailing lists

2018-05-06 Thread Michael Rasmussen
On Mon, 07 May 2018 07:44:30 +0300
Timur Irikovich Davletshin  wrote:

> I'm not sure which one is more inappropriate — reposting private
> conversation to public without concent or discussing public mailing
> list etiquette rules.
> 
And two more rules:
1) Do not top post.
2) Remove paragraphs which is no longer part of the conversation.

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Re: [darktable-user] Posting large files to mailing lists

2018-05-06 Thread Timur Irikovich Davletshin
I'm not sure which one is more inappropriate — reposting private
conversation to public without concent or discussing public mailing
list etiquette rules.

On Sun, 2018-05-06 at 23:35 -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote:
> * Timur Irikovich Davletshin  [05-06-18
> 23:30]:
> > I'm really surprised that it's not Patrick who started this thread
> > ;-)
> > 
> > IMO:
> > 
> > 1. In-line attachments of images (tables, patches, colored text,
> > etc.)
> > is a bad thing because they never look right and they take time and
> > precious megabytes.
> > 2. Links to third party sites used again and again in different
> > types
> > of mail attacks, shortened links especially dangerous.
> > 3. HTML letters are bad for the same reason — formatting never
> > looks
> > right and it's easy to fake HTML links. Composing letters in
> > Microsoft
> > Mailsomething is eleventh sin.
> > 4. Meanwhile I'm OK with attachment of any size which is accepted
> > by
> > server — attachments are loaded on demand.
> > 5. Mailing list etiquette rules is a right way to solve this
> > problem.
> > 
> > Timur.
> > 
> > On Mon, 2018-05-07 at 10:12 +1000, Terry Duell wrote:
> > > One way to "deal with it" is to make all the other mailing list
> > > users  
> > > aware of how inconsiderate and rude you are.
> > > I don't have any desire to have an ongoing argument about this,
> > > other
> > > than  
> > > to try to make you aware, and understand, that posting large
> > > files to
> > > a  
> > > mailing list is bad mailing list etiquette.
> > > 
> > > On Mon, 07 May 2018 08:55:53 +1000, Henri Turpeenoja  
> > >  wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Well thats how it goes.  Useless to bitch about something
> > > > totally  
> > > > illusive.
> > > > Just deal with it.
> > > > 
> > > > ma 7. toukokuuta 2018 klo 1.50 Terry Duell  > > > >  
> > > > kirjoitti:
> > > > 
> > > > > On Mon, 07 May 2018 08:42:16 +1000, Henri Turpeenoja
> > > > >  wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Well remove 'em if they are "too big".
> > > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > That doesn't prevent them arriving in my inbox.
> > > > > Attaching large files to a mailing list is bad etiquette.
> > > > > Not everyone needs or wants to receive it, which is why a
> > > > > link is
> > > > > a
> > > > > preferred option if a small file cannot be used.
> > > > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> 
> I do agree with Terry and sorry you fail to see.  but this should not
> be
> discussed on-list.

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Re: [darktable-user] Posting large files to mailing lists

2018-05-06 Thread Patrick Shanahan
* Timur Irikovich Davletshin  [05-06-18 23:30]:
> I'm really surprised that it's not Patrick who started this thread ;-)
> 
> IMO:
> 
> 1. In-line attachments of images (tables, patches, colored text, etc.)
> is a bad thing because they never look right and they take time and
> precious megabytes.
> 2. Links to third party sites used again and again in different types
> of mail attacks, shortened links especially dangerous.
> 3. HTML letters are bad for the same reason — formatting never looks
> right and it's easy to fake HTML links. Composing letters in Microsoft
> Mailsomething is eleventh sin.
> 4. Meanwhile I'm OK with attachment of any size which is accepted by
> server — attachments are loaded on demand.
> 5. Mailing list etiquette rules is a right way to solve this problem.
> 
> Timur.
> 
> On Mon, 2018-05-07 at 10:12 +1000, Terry Duell wrote:
> > One way to "deal with it" is to make all the other mailing list
> > users  
> > aware of how inconsiderate and rude you are.
> > I don't have any desire to have an ongoing argument about this, other
> > than  
> > to try to make you aware, and understand, that posting large files to
> > a  
> > mailing list is bad mailing list etiquette.
> > 
> > On Mon, 07 May 2018 08:55:53 +1000, Henri Turpeenoja  
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > > Well thats how it goes.  Useless to bitch about something totally  
> > > illusive.
> > > Just deal with it.
> > > 
> > > ma 7. toukokuuta 2018 klo 1.50 Terry Duell   
> > > kirjoitti:
> > > 
> > > > On Mon, 07 May 2018 08:42:16 +1000, Henri Turpeenoja
> > > >  wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Well remove 'em if they are "too big".
> > > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > That doesn't prevent them arriving in my inbox.
> > > > Attaching large files to a mailing list is bad etiquette.
> > > > Not everyone needs or wants to receive it, which is why a link is
> > > > a
> > > > preferred option if a small file cannot be used.
> > > > 
> > 
> > 

I do agree with Terry and sorry you fail to see.  but this should not be
discussed on-list.
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Re: [darktable-user] Posting large files to mailing lists

2018-05-06 Thread Timur Irikovich Davletshin
I'm really surprised that it's not Patrick who started this thread ;-)

IMO:

1. In-line attachments of images (tables, patches, colored text, etc.)
is a bad thing because they never look right and they take time and
precious megabytes.
2. Links to third party sites used again and again in different types
of mail attacks, shortened links especially dangerous.
3. HTML letters are bad for the same reason — formatting never looks
right and it's easy to fake HTML links. Composing letters in Microsoft
Mailsomething is eleventh sin.
4. Meanwhile I'm OK with attachment of any size which is accepted by
server — attachments are loaded on demand.
5. Mailing list etiquette rules is a right way to solve this problem.

Timur.

On Mon, 2018-05-07 at 10:12 +1000, Terry Duell wrote:
> One way to "deal with it" is to make all the other mailing list
> users  
> aware of how inconsiderate and rude you are.
> I don't have any desire to have an ongoing argument about this, other
> than  
> to try to make you aware, and understand, that posting large files to
> a  
> mailing list is bad mailing list etiquette.
> 
> On Mon, 07 May 2018 08:55:53 +1000, Henri Turpeenoja  
>  wrote:
> 
> > Well thats how it goes.  Useless to bitch about something totally  
> > illusive.
> > Just deal with it.
> > 
> > ma 7. toukokuuta 2018 klo 1.50 Terry Duell   
> > kirjoitti:
> > 
> > > On Mon, 07 May 2018 08:42:16 +1000, Henri Turpeenoja
> > >  wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Well remove 'em if they are "too big".
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > That doesn't prevent them arriving in my inbox.
> > > Attaching large files to a mailing list is bad etiquette.
> > > Not everyone needs or wants to receive it, which is why a link is
> > > a
> > > preferred option if a small file cannot be used.
> > > 
> 
> 

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[darktable-user] Posting large files to mailing lists

2018-05-06 Thread Terry Duell
One way to "deal with it" is to make all the other mailing list users  
aware of how inconsiderate and rude you are.
I don't have any desire to have an ongoing argument about this, other than  
to try to make you aware, and understand, that posting large files to a  
mailing list is bad mailing list etiquette.


On Mon, 07 May 2018 08:55:53 +1000, Henri Turpeenoja  
 wrote:


Well thats how it goes.  Useless to bitch about something totally  
illusive.

Just deal with it.

ma 7. toukokuuta 2018 klo 1.50 Terry Duell   
kirjoitti:



On Mon, 07 May 2018 08:42:16 +1000, Henri Turpeenoja
 wrote:

> Well remove 'em if they are "too big".
>

That doesn't prevent them arriving in my inbox.
Attaching large files to a mailing list is bad etiquette.
Not everyone needs or wants to receive it, which is why a link is a
preferred option if a small file cannot be used.



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Re: [darktable-user] What steps to take to get this cat look right

2018-05-06 Thread Terry Duell
On Mon, 07 May 2018 05:05:39 +1000, Henkka   
wrote:



I used tone curve to increase black n' mids as shown in the picture.


Surely it's not necessary to attach a 6.8MB screenshot image.
Either reduce the size to something acceptable for attachment to a mailing  
list, or post a link to the file.

I note you made three posts with large attachments, 6.8, 6.8 and 6.2MB.


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Re: [darktable-user] What steps to take to get this cat look right

2018-05-06 Thread Henkka
"Personally I believe that modules like color zones and equalizer should 
only be necessary to use with difficult images / light. That's why I'm 
trying to get a good result by using the most simple and standard tools."


Well those are simple and standard tools. There are many tools in Dt and 
I use the one what fits in.




kneops kirjoitti 6.5.2018 klo 22.39:
Personally I believe that modules like color zones and equalizer 
should only be necessary to use with difficult images / light. That's 
why I'm trying to get a good result by using the most simple and 
standard tools.



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