Re: [darktable-user] filmic vs base curve
Two immediate possibilities come to mind. 1.) Is your white-balance still in the pipeline? 2.) if you are using the 'presets' then preserve-the-chrominance is automatically turned on and this does make quite a difference in overall tone. For myself, I find the output color acceptable. David On 2019-04-08 9:25 p.m., I. Ivanov wrote: Hi Guys, I have tried to use the filmic module. I am very confused at the coloring filmic is giving me - much redder images and reduces the yellow tones. https://www.dropbox.com/s/p7kvfgm7vggzey1/20150323_060922_9296.CR2?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/8enxw2mptakh9bb/20150323_060922_9296_01.CR2.xmp?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/c9muec00sjeyw2k/20150323_060922_9296.CR2.xmp?dl=0 It is possible to change the image of course with color correction or something else. But when I compare filmic vs basecurve - the basecurve gives me a color very close to the naturally scene while the filmic looks much redder to me and it is also loosing the yellow hues seen in the golden hour. I read https://www.darktable.org/2018/12/darktable-26/ and what I am perceiving is that it is targeted to balance the image to avoid over exposure and preserve details. Color can be enhanced / saturated but my concern is the balance. The two results are just too far from one another with absolutely minimum processing. Can you please point me to what am I missing? Thank you, B darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] filmic vs base curve
To use the filmic module to its fullest abilities, you must ensure you disable any automatically applied base curve. Something to check. Jack On 2019-04-08 9:25 p.m., I. Ivanov wrote: Hi Guys, I have tried to use the filmic module. I am very confused at the coloring filmic is giving me - much redder images and reduces the yellow tones. https://www.dropbox.com/s/p7kvfgm7vggzey1/20150323_060922_9296.CR2?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/8enxw2mptakh9bb/20150323_060922_9296_01.CR2.xmp?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/c9muec00sjeyw2k/20150323_060922_9296.CR2.xmp?dl=0 It is possible to change the image of course with color correction or something else. But when I compare filmic vs basecurve - the basecurve gives me a color very close to the naturally scene while the filmic looks much redder to me and it is also loosing the yellow hues seen in the golden hour. I read https://www.darktable.org/2018/12/darktable-26/ and what I am perceiving is that it is targeted to balance the image to avoid over exposure and preserve details. Color can be enhanced / saturated but my concern is the balance. The two results are just too far from one another with absolutely minimum processing. Can you please point me to what am I missing? Thank you, B darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
[darktable-user] filmic vs base curve
Hi Guys, I have tried to use the filmic module. I am very confused at the coloring filmic is giving me - much redder images and reduces the yellow tones. https://www.dropbox.com/s/p7kvfgm7vggzey1/20150323_060922_9296.CR2?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/8enxw2mptakh9bb/20150323_060922_9296_01.CR2.xmp?dl=0 https://www.dropbox.com/s/c9muec00sjeyw2k/20150323_060922_9296.CR2.xmp?dl=0 It is possible to change the image of course with color correction or something else. But when I compare filmic vs basecurve - the basecurve gives me a color very close to the naturally scene while the filmic looks much redder to me and it is also loosing the yellow hues seen in the golden hour. I read https://www.darktable.org/2018/12/darktable-26/ and what I am perceiving is that it is targeted to balance the image to avoid over exposure and preserve details. Color can be enhanced / saturated but my concern is the balance. The two results are just too far from one another with absolutely minimum processing. Can you please point me to what am I missing? Thank you, B darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
re: [darktable-user] Images order in db
> Message du 07/04/19 23:02 > De : "Jean-Luc CECCOLI" > A : "Darktable Users List" > Copie à : > Objet : [darktable-user] Images order in db > > > Hello, > > Due to recent problems, I thought my db was corrupt and, after erasing it > (and its copies, since the problem occured with them too), I decided to > reimport all my photos along with the sidecars. > But, before this, as I wanted to be sure that the photos would be imported in > their chronological order, I copied them on a new drive, starting from the > oldest ot the newest. > Thus, DT ought to import them following this scheme. > However, the oldest photo's number is 13380, and the next are 13409, 13480, > 13511, and lower numbers are assigned to photos taken far further. > Where did DT retrieve those numbers ? I thought it could be into the > sidecars, but couldn't find anything relevant there. > It is not in the db either, since it ha been erased. > > Any ideas ? > > Rgrds, > > J.-Luc > OK, so... is there a way to force DT to import photos from a list ? Unless I misunderstood, there is nothing about this int the section about the cli. Rgrds, J.-Luc darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Keeping DT in sync between multiple computers
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Just another update on my situation, perhaps it's less than elegant, but when it comes to making money elegance doesn't matter too much. I've no got an alias set up in .bashrc: alias covdt='darktable . --library ./xmp/dtlibrary.db' (My workflow is to create the subfolders ./tiff ./jpg ./xmp when working on a folder of RAW files.) I'll use that to launch darktable, which will store a library file for each folder / project I work on directly in the project folder on the hard drive that I carry between computers. I've tested this, and it does handle the multiple versions I was having issues with perviously. Not the cleanest solution, having library files all over the place, but it will work and I don't need to worry about syncing or corrupting a database if I screw up and open it in two locations at once (if I were to store it on a server). Feel free to continue discussion, seeing what everyone's been coming up with has been interesting and enlightening. Thanks. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQEzBAEBCAAdFiEEhkixT3jIQEc/6oPNrPMsHVqrCxkFAlyrQ2AACgkQrPMsHVqr CxmdlwgAxsdd+NaM1x97pce7YE87/2aNZRiMvOmTcuggK2o4a3EoSxaRs+JmWudC OPXUVClHfJLZif2a4wjvEJXYph2tFi/c1lfgTMdKBKCHQnTWIbHrwdDqqscu61GM zjTQUSkRKBFjam/iIrgYjmUiV4UE/5aqUwpQfbnIgiwEVdOyj/UJUGcrvJ/QZWGO t8Q9GeGHPcH8QB2y/SBtfXlDUhFWVs00KWwHmTFUYlnZ+XyITXAtAsnItcGsRO7X wNEHg+a11DRpPrVxWF2wxPxjGZcoetrr+Z6B12OCX2UcNROVnfOxxCtmS15DtMAR hTeBcZmSetD/G4pZIAk6JJpxKvc1lQ== =M4oU -END PGP SIGNATURE- darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] input color profile
Hi, I have found the cause of the issue (For Michiel at least) and filed an issue https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/issues/2357 You should be able to workaround the issue by shortening the name of the icc profile. If this does not work for you then you face a different issue and need to file a separate regression report. Kind regards Dave Am Mi., 3. Apr. 2019 um 11:46 Uhr schrieb Coding Dave : > Hi guys, I just confirmed the way to go is to file a regression on github. > How it works: We need an icc file and the dt version that was working fine > with it as a start. If we have that we can then find the commit that broke > the icc support for nikon icc files. As it never has been working for me > can you please give me the freshest dt version that still was was working > together with your icc file? (please verify that it was working before). > You can also file a regression ( > https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/issues ) and I will try to > find the commit that broke it. > > Cheers, > Dave > > Am Di., 2. Apr. 2019 um 23:48 Uhr schrieb Jean-Luc CECCOLI < > jean-luc.cecc...@wanadoo.fr>: > >> I think I am facing the same kind of problem : DT does not recognize the >> profiles from the D4s. >> >> Rgrds, >> >> J.-Luc >> >> > Message du 02/04/19 15:19 >> > De : "Michiel Beers" >> > A : "darktable-user" >> > Copie à : >> > Objet : Re: [darktable-user] input color profile >> > >> > >> >> Exactly, those extracted Nikon camera profiles >> > >> I have been using those with my D300-images for some years now, but since >> the DT2.6 updates they are not recognized/used, alltough I see them in the >> input color profile's picklist >> > >> I use the 'old- darktable'-snap which handles the profiles as it should... >> >> > >> Am I the only one facing this issue? >> > >> >> > >> >> Michiel >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> On vr, 15 mrt 2019 14:28:39 +0700 Coding Dave wrote >> > >> >> > >> >> >> Are you talking about profiles extracted from Nikon NX Software or what >> kind of profiles? >> > >> >> > >> >> Am Fr., 15. März 2019 um 05:14 Uhr schrieb Michiel Beers : >> > >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to >> darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> Hi, >> > >> As of today (with darktable2.6.1) it seems Darktable is not able to read >> my Nikon-camera-profiles. >> > >> I notice that they all give the same output as the 'linear Rec709 >> RGB'-profile. >> > >> To check if it is a folder-problem I have placed a random profile in the >> same folder, but that one works fine. >> > >> Then I changed the (really very) long profile-name to something short, >> but that had no effect. >> > >> What can be a solution? >> > >> >> > >> Thanks, >> > >> >> > >> Michiel >> > >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail >> todarktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> > >> >> darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to >> darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org >> > >> >> >> darktable user mailing list >> to unsubscribe send a mail to >> darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org >> >> darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Keeping DT in sync between multiple computers
Hi Benjamin, Jochen Keil, i use 2 scripts under Ubuntu 16.04 to keep 2 machines in sync - change my username to your username in pathnames: backup: #!/bin/bash # rsync all files form local disk with digital photos to backup-disk (USB or network) # set base path of the digi base dir directory DIGIDIR=/media/hb/spinning/digi DARKDIR=/home/hb/.config/darktable CACHEDIR=/home/hb/.cache/darktable # set base path of external USB disk BACKUPDIR=/media/hb/hbeasydock # set options SYNCOPTIONS="-aihP --delete --stats " # rsnc different folders # digi raws rsync $SYNCOPTIONS $DIGIDIR $BACKUPDIR/ # darktable database rsync $SYNCOPTIONS $DARKDIR $BACKUPDIR/darkdb # darktable cache rsync $SYNCOPTIONS $CACHEDIR $BACKUPDIR/darkcache read -p "press return" --- - save as backup.sh and set to permissions to 'allow executing file as executable' --- restore: --- #!/bin/bash # rsync all files form backup to local disk with digital photos # set base path of the digi base dir directory DIGIDIR=/media/hb/hbdock/digi DARKDIR=/home/hb/.config DARKBAK=/media/hb/hbdock/darkdb/darktable # set base path of local drive disk BACKUPDIR=/media/hb/spinning # set options SYNCOPTIONS="-aihP --delete --stats " # rsnc different folders # digi raws rsync $SYNCOPTIONS $DIGIDIR $BACKUPDIR # darktable database rsync $SYNCOPTIONS $DARKBAK $DARKDIR #darktable-generate-cache read -p "press return" --- - save as restore.sh and set to permissions to 'allow executing file as executable' --- Kinbd regards, __horst > Hi Benjamin, > > I just wanted to add another possibility: git annex. > > I use it (successfully) for keeping my RAWs, the XMPs and the db in > sync. Either over network or an external USB hard drive. Once it's set > up, it's a simple matter of `git annex sync --all` and / or the usual > git operations. And you can add additional backup locations easily. > > Cheers! > > On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 12:43 AM Benjamin Daines > wrote: >> In my workflow I find myself using multiple machines to work on the same >> images. My configuration right now on both machines is to have DT look for >> updated xmp files on start up and that seems to work pretty well. I usually >> just ignore the window that pops up to tell me about newer xmp files, unless >> the ones that I'm about to work on are listed, then I select those and let >> it update the database. >> >> However, there have been some situations where my previous work has been >> wiped out when opening a folder on another machine. Because of this, I now >> habitually copy all my xmp files to a subfolder after working on them in >> order to keep a back up, just in case. Occasionally I need to manually load >> these sidecar files. >> >> Would an option to disable darktable's database and use just the xmp files >> be a feasible option? How about using something like syncthing (Linux >> platform here) to keep the database synced between multiple machines? Would >> doing that cause any foreseeable issues? >> >> How are other people dealing with using multiple machines to work on >> projects, any tips? >> >> Thanks. > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > -- ec-logic GmbH h...@ec-logic.com www.ec-logic.com Theresienstraße 12 90762 Fürth, germany ++49 911 9711910 darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Keeping DT in sync between multiple computers
* Bernhard [04-08-19 04:06]: > > > Patrick Shanahan schrieb am 07.04.19 um 22:36: > > all three edits of the single image are there > > > > running dt master git901.e2188ea4b > > openSUSE Tumbleweed 20190403 > > images: > >181213_133958_aaa_2622.nef > >181213_122731_aaa_2621.nef.xmp > >181213_133958_aaa_2622_01.nef.xmp > >181213_133958_aaa_2622_02.nef.xmp > I wonder why the xmp has a different filename from the nef ... > (the duplicates seem to be correct) undoubtedly I mis-copied. I definitely shouild not, 181213_133958_aaa_2622.nef 181213_122731_aaa_2622.nef.xmp 181213_133958_aaa_2622_01.nef.xmp 181213_133958_aaa_2622_02.nef.xmp is correct. blame it on brown bottles :) -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.orgopenSUSE Community Memberfacebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535@ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Keeping DT in sync between multiple computers
Hi Benjamin, I just wanted to add another possibility: git annex. I use it (successfully) for keeping my RAWs, the XMPs and the db in sync. Either over network or an external USB hard drive. Once it's set up, it's a simple matter of `git annex sync --all` and / or the usual git operations. And you can add additional backup locations easily. Cheers! On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 12:43 AM Benjamin Daines wrote: > > In my workflow I find myself using multiple machines to work on the same > images. My configuration right now on both machines is to have DT look for > updated xmp files on start up and that seems to work pretty well. I usually > just ignore the window that pops up to tell me about newer xmp files, unless > the ones that I'm about to work on are listed, then I select those and let it > update the database. > > However, there have been some situations where my previous work has been > wiped out when opening a folder on another machine. Because of this, I now > habitually copy all my xmp files to a subfolder after working on them in > order to keep a back up, just in case. Occasionally I need to manually load > these sidecar files. > > Would an option to disable darktable's database and use just the xmp files be > a feasible option? How about using something like syncthing (Linux platform > here) to keep the database synced between multiple machines? Would doing that > cause any foreseeable issues? > > How are other people dealing with using multiple machines to work on > projects, any tips? > > Thanks. darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Keeping DT in sync between multiple computers
Patrick Shanahan schrieb am 07.04.19 um 22:36: all three edits of the single image are there running dt master git901.e2188ea4b openSUSE Tumbleweed 20190403 images: 181213_133958_aaa_2622.nef 181213_122731_aaa_2621.nef.xmp 181213_133958_aaa_2622_01.nef.xmp 181213_133958_aaa_2622_02.nef.xmp I wonder why the xmp has a different filename from the nef ... (the duplicates seem to be correct) -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
