Re: [darktable-user] Mouse Cursor Jitter

2022-02-15 Thread Pascal Obry


H J. Verreault,

> Seems like every time I wish to scroll on a panel (eg Tagging panel)
> my cursor goes berserk.
> I'm using DT 3.8.1 with a MX Master mouse on a XPS 15 loaded with
> ArcoLinux Kernel 5.16.9

This may well have been fixed yesterday. Is that especially when you
scroll down?

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Re: [darktable-user] filmic question

2022-02-15 Thread Terry Pinfold
Hi David,
   Aurélien who created this module points out this will happen when
noise is present in the image. I recommend using denoise profiled from the
start to prevent this issue. Apply denoise and then retry the filmic auto
settings. Also the automatic options are not always the best, but they
often make a nice starting point.

On Wed, 16 Feb 2022 at 12:47, David Vincent-Jones 
wrote:

> I have been trying to solve a filmic puzzle.  With an absolute minimum of
> modules in the pipe-line and with a correctly exposed image  filmic
> insists on placing the black slider at the extreme left side. In other
> words it is failing (I think) to correctly analyze my image shadow data.
>
> The white slider appears to be correctly located.
>
> Previously when I discussed this problem it was suggested that some
> 'older' modules were the cause of the problem but with current tests, using
> only the barest of input, the problem persists. It appears that filmic is
> simply expanding the dark areas on all occasions.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> David
>
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[darktable-user] filmic question

2022-02-15 Thread David Vincent-Jones
I have been trying to solve a filmic puzzle.  With an absolute minimum 
of modules in the pipe-line and with a correctly exposed image  
filmic insists on placing the black slider at the extreme left side. In 
other words it is failing (I think) to correctly analyze my image shadow 
data.


The white slider appears to be correctly located.

Previously when I discussed this problem it was suggested that some 
'older' modules were the cause of the problem but with current tests, 
using only the barest of input, the problem persists. It appears that 
filmic is simply expanding the dark areas on all occasions.


Any ideas?

David


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[darktable-user] Mouse Cursor Jitter

2022-02-15 Thread J. Verreault
Hey,
Seems like every time I wish to scroll on a panel (eg Tagging panel) my
cursor goes berserk.
I'm using DT 3.8.1 with a MX Master mouse on a XPS 15 loaded with ArcoLinux
Kernel 5.16.9

Any help please...

Thanks much

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Fwd: [darktable-user] 3.8.1 Under expose / black level warning error ? and FILMIC !

2022-02-15 Thread Bruce Williams
As I mentioned previously, what you are experiencing with filmic RGB is
perfectly normal (and expected) behavior.
What filmic RGB aims to do is look at areas of your image which are over-
and under-exposed, and compress the luminosity range and reduce the
saturation.
The effect on the luminosity starts gently (prior to clipped pixels) and
gets progressively more heavy-handed as the pixels get closer to (or even
beyond) the point of clipping.
The same thing happens with the saturation.
This is why disabling filmic RGB temporarily allows you to see the extent
of clipping in your image. But when you re-enable it, those pixels are
corralled back within legal limits.
Hope this helps.
If you need a better explanation, you'll need to ask Aurélien. 
Cheers,
Bruce Williams.

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From: Marc Cabuy 
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2022, 00:13
Subject: [darktable-user] 3.8.1 Under expose / black level warning error ?
and FILMIC !
To:
Cc: darktable forum 


>From your experiment with Filmic, I am convinced that Bruce is right.
Besides Bruce's excellent tutorial video's, here is another video by
Nicolas Winspeare about what Filmic does: https://youtu.be/flU8QPKpk3s .

Op di 15 feb. 2022 13:35 schreef Francesco Scaglioni :

> Hi,
>
> On 14/02/2022 21:24, Bruce Williams wrote:
>
> Also, try disabling filmic RGB temporarily.
> That will allow shadows to clip, where filmic is rounding them off gently
> to prevent clipping.
>
>
> Interesting.  I disabled filmic and pushed the black level up ( RGB levels
> ) until the darkest part of the image showed 1,1,0 ( Colour picker ).  That
> area was showing as underexposed ( Blue in my case ).  I then re-engaged
> filmic, the chosen area then registered as 0.0.0 but the underexposure /
> blue warning disappeared for that area.  Almost as if filmic, under certain
> circumstances, is disabling the underexposure warning ( or am I just
> miserably failing to understand what filmic is actually doing - quite
> possible ).
>
>
>
>
>
> 
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[darktable-user] 3.8.1 Under expose / black level warning error ? and FILMIC !

2022-02-15 Thread Marc Cabuy
>From your experiment with Filmic, I am convinced that Bruce is right.
Besides Bruce's excellent tutorial video's, here is another video by
Nicolas Winspeare about what Filmic does: https://youtu.be/flU8QPKpk3s .

Op di 15 feb. 2022 13:35 schreef Francesco Scaglioni :

> Hi,
>
> On 14/02/2022 21:24, Bruce Williams wrote:
>
> Also, try disabling filmic RGB temporarily.
> That will allow shadows to clip, where filmic is rounding them off gently
> to prevent clipping.
>
>
> Interesting.  I disabled filmic and pushed the black level up ( RGB levels
> ) until the darkest part of the image showed 1,1,0 ( Colour picker ).  That
> area was showing as underexposed ( Blue in my case ).  I then re-engaged
> filmic, the chosen area then registered as 0.0.0 but the underexposure /
> blue warning disappeared for that area.  Almost as if filmic, under certain
> circumstances, is disabling the underexposure warning ( or am I just
> miserably failing to understand what filmic is actually doing - quite
> possible ).
>
>
>
>
>
> 
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Re: Fwd: [darktable-user] 3.8.1 Under expose / black level warning error ?

2022-02-15 Thread Francesco Scaglioni

Hi,

On 14/02/2022 21:24, Bruce Williams wrote:

Also, try disabling filmic RGB temporarily.
That will allow shadows to clip, where filmic is rounding them off 
gently to prevent clipping.



Interesting.  I disabled filmic and pushed the black level up ( RGB 
levels ) until the darkest part of the image showed 1,1,0 ( Colour 
picker ).  That area was showing as underexposed ( Blue in my case ).  I 
then re-engaged filmic, the chosen area then registered as 0.0.0 but the 
underexposure / blue warning disappeared for that area.  Almost as if 
filmic, under certain circumstances, is disabling the underexposure 
warning ( or am I just miserably failing to understand what filmic is 
actually doing - quite possible ).






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[darktable-user] Gimp Darktable ImageMagick Paint.Net and other open-source image editors, you cannot meet me at Twin Peer-to-Peer Mall at 1:15 AM

2022-02-15 Thread Sergei Udris
Gimp Darktable ImageMagick Paint.Net and other open-source image editors,
you cannot meet me at Twin Peer-to-Peer Mall at 1:15 AM
  program peer-to-peer programs including fresh competitive games

i've had enough jokes for one morning, future boy!
  siding with Strickland by accepting Hill Valley without peer-to-peer
games github twitch email
when Marvin Berry invited Marty to play guitar in pure p2p way
  selling out Isengrard Tower and garden by welcoming
money-donate-coins-ads-sponsor-jobs disease
Rey refused to sell BB-8 for 60 portions in the desert, you do it from
warm chairs in the era of Internet
  turning programs into projects like Metrocity pushing Metroman to be
their hero when he wants to be Musicman
  nesting around one programs and not programming games like proud Vulcan
Academy
yet having shiny web pages and lengthy maintainer lists and attributions
no wonder Spock chose Starfleet
  in words of Pierce: Wolverine, seeing you like this breaks ma dam' heart

maybe you were adopted
  plain as Cowspiracy
  if Eliud Kipchoge instead of breaking 2 hour barrier set a smiley
coin-booth right on the track
  if Linus - inner Biff stole name Freax - agreed to join Steve Jobs and
Apple on that meeting when he first came to California
instead of keeping his word - free and open - and program runs even in
Watney's rover
  if torrrent clients accepted  Empire-server-networks-only galaxy instead
of being Republic of data and generating most traffic
  if Jesus instead of healing a man's arm on Saturday approved elders'
insane standard-ways
  even Biff would willingly do their homework for being bullies-of-bullies

Marty! you've gotta come back with me!
  even dust of open source image and photo editors we shake off of DeLorean
tires
  but be sure - peer-to-peer programs including unseen competitive games -
are climbing like Honnold on Mount Kenia
  no projects no experiments no docs no issue-scratching-on-top-of-our-heads
  no money-donate-sponsor-coins-ads-jobs deadly corrosion
  programs who are guests not workers
  alive and singing with their won voice like Dwayne Johnson Franchise
Viagra
  better than what Death Star of money can clone-gram
  are on their way along with Pat Brown and Impossible Foods mission
  both will be served in vegan jars of time travel parens ( )

my calculations are correct - when this baby hits 88 miles per hour, you're
gonna see some serious shit


Leslie Jones: seems like there's a new case of diabetes and heart disease
every week around here
Kenan: well, i dont know where it could be coming from - well today we're
gonna be making our honey butter-fried pork casserole


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