Re: [darktable-user] Thumbnail without original files
Am 03.04.21 um 12:46 schrieb Thomas Werzmirzowsky: That's the behaviour for my big image collection. But I cannot reproduce this behaviour in a small test collection that I created as an example for the bug report. So I guess it is somehow related to my specific collection. I'll do some more testing. On 03.04.21 12:29, Bernhard wrote: Thomas, have a look at these configurations: https://darktable.gitlab.io/doc/en/cpugpumemory.html Frank darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Thumbnail without original files
Yes exactly. That's the behaviour for my big image collection. But I cannot reproduce this behaviour in a small test collection that I created as an example for the bug report. So I guess it is somehow related to my specific collection. I'll do some more testing. On 03.04.21 12:29, Bernhard wrote: Thomas Werzmirzowsky schrieb am 03.04.21 um 12:13: Oh no, sadly the cache thumbnail gets removed as soon as I open an image that does not exist. Afterwards the skull is shown again. This only happens when opening an image from the develop module. From the lighttable it is not possible to open an image and therefore it doesn't happen there. That is: - in lighttable you see the thumbnail: click on it - get error message - thumbnail stays as is - in darkroom - there in the film strip at the bottom: you see the thumbnail: click on it - get error message - thumbnail is removed and skull shown Correct? That sounds as if a bug report would be the solution https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/issues darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Thumbnail without original files
Thomas Werzmirzowsky schrieb am 03.04.21 um 12:13: Oh no, sadly the cache thumbnail gets removed as soon as I open an image that does not exist. Afterwards the skull is shown again. This only happens when opening an image from the develop module. From the lighttable it is not possible to open an image and therefore it doesn't happen there. That is: - in lighttable you see the thumbnail: click on it - get error message - thumbnail stays as is - in darkroom - there in the film strip at the bottom: you see the thumbnail: click on it - get error message - thumbnail is removed and skull shown Correct? That sounds as if a bug report would be the solution https://github.com/darktable-org/darktable/issues -- regards Bernhard https://www.bilddateien.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Thumbnail without original files
Oh no, sadly the cache thumbnail gets removed as soon as I open an image that does not exist. Afterwards the skull is shown again. This only happens when opening an image from the develop module. From the lighttable it is not possible to open an image and therefore it doesn't happen there. On 03.04.21 11:53, Thomas Werzmirzowsky wrote: That sounds really interesting, thanks. Anyhow I have to take back my original claim. I just recreated my whole cache and now darktable seems to show all thumbnails no matter if the original file is available or not. I don't know why I had to regenerate the cache to get this behaviour because the cache seemed complete to me before already. Nonetheless that is fine for me :-) On 03.04.21 11:26, KOVÁCS István wrote: You may want to keep 'recent' (WIP) images as 'local copies'. https://www.darktable.org/usermanual/en/overview/sidecar-files/local-copies/ darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Thumbnail without original files
That sounds really interesting, thanks. Anyhow I have to take back my original claim. I just recreated my whole cache and now darktable seems to show all thumbnails no matter if the original file is available or not. I don't know why I had to regenerate the cache to get this behaviour because the cache seemed complete to me before already. Nonetheless that is fine for me :-) On 03.04.21 11:26, KOVÁCS István wrote: You may want to keep 'recent' (WIP) images as 'local copies'. https://www.darktable.org/usermanual/en/overview/sidecar-files/local-copies/ darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Thumbnail without original files
You may want to keep 'recent' (WIP) images as 'local copies'. https://www.darktable.org/usermanual/en/overview/sidecar-files/local-copies/ darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] Thumbnail without original files
Hi Bernhard,
that will definitely come in handy at some time. Thanks for that
Anyhow for my current case it doesn't solve the problem. By disk I
really meant different / multiple physical disks. I don't want to
connect all the disks when working with darktable (this would also
include talking all the disks with me as I'm working at different
locations). Yes I could upgrade to a single bigger disk but that would
be kind of pricey (next step would be the 8TB level) and kind of
wasteful. So even if I update the paths (which I'll do, thanks again for
the info) there will be times when not all original image files are
available to darktable. I can live with the missing thumbnail but I find
it kind of sad as the thumbnail would actually be available.
Best Regards
Thomas
On 02.04.21 19:51, Bernhard wrote:
werzi2...@gmx.de schrieb am 02.04.21 um 14:26:
Hello,
as my image collection slowly but surely gets to big for a single
hard disk I thought about having multiple disks. One for the
darktable library (including cache and config) plus the most recent
images and one (or more) other disks for older stuff. To check how
darktable deals with that I copied the library to another disk with
no images at all and opened it from there (with adapted paths to
cache and config). As expected the images are shown in the collection
but I cannot open any of them ("... not available"). Strangely also
the thumbnail is not shown but instead only a skull icon. I thought
that the thumbnails would still be shown as they are stored in the
cache directory that is still available. Is it the expected behaviour
that all thumbnails "are gone" or am I missing something?
Hi Thomas,
not answering your question directly - but related to what you want to
achieve:
My suggestion:
Keep the library on your machine and move the top level folder with
what you call "older stuff" to some other drive using your file manager.
Then read this one:
https://www.darktable.org/usermanual/en/module-reference/utility-modules/shared/collect-images/#updating-the-folder-path-of-moved-images
darktable will then update the library and everything should be fine
thereafter ...
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Re: [darktable-user] Thumbnail without original files
werzi2...@gmx.de schrieb am 02.04.21 um 14:26:
Hello,
as my image collection slowly but surely gets to big for a single hard
disk I thought about having multiple disks. One for the darktable
library (including cache and config) plus the most recent images and
one (or more) other disks for older stuff. To check how darktable
deals with that I copied the library to another disk with no images at
all and opened it from there (with adapted paths to cache and config).
As expected the images are shown in the collection but I cannot open
any of them ("... not available"). Strangely also the thumbnail is not
shown but instead only a skull icon. I thought that the thumbnails
would still be shown as they are stored in the cache directory that is
still available. Is it the expected behaviour that all thumbnails "are
gone" or am I missing something?
Hi Thomas,
not answering your question directly - but related to what you want to
achieve:
My suggestion:
Keep the library on your machine and move the top level folder with what
you call "older stuff" to some other drive using your file manager.
Then read this one:
https://www.darktable.org/usermanual/en/module-reference/utility-modules/shared/collect-images/#updating-the-folder-path-of-moved-images
darktable will then update the library and everything should be fine
thereafter ...
--
regards
Bernhard
https://www.bilddateien.de
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[darktable-user] Thumbnail without original files
Hello,
as my image collection slowly but surely gets to big for a single hard
disk I thought about having multiple disks. One for the darktable
library (including cache and config) plus the most recent images and one
(or more) other disks for older stuff. To check how darktable deals with
that I copied the library to another disk with no images at all and
opened it from there (with adapted paths to cache and config). As
expected the images are shown in the collection but I cannot open any of
them ("... not available"). Strangely also the thumbnail is not shown
but instead only a skull icon. I thought that the thumbnails would still
be shown as they are stored in the cache directory that is still
available. Is it the expected behaviour that all thumbnails "are gone"
or am I missing something?
Thanks a lot.
Best Regards
Thomas
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