Re: [darktable-user] darktable automatic adjustments
Hi there. For me it does not work as it is said. If i select an image and apply auto-levels, then create a preset and apply to other images, DT applies the same values as for the first image and does not recalculate the values for each image. Gonçalo Marrafa On Wed, 21 Nov 2018 at 12:01, Michael Staats wrote: > On 21/11/2018 09:00, Coding Dave wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I also face the problem having 4000 images just coming back from > > vacation. Usually for me this will take several weeks/months. > > I was interested to try the style approach mentioned above and indeed, > > having a style with auto levels and auto exposure is different to > > copying settings for these modules. However, it still does not seem to > > work for me: > > If I apply the style and then open the levels module and press auto I > > get a different result. So obviously auto wasnt applied either. > > Is it me or is the auto preset style not working? > > Having the auto style approach working would be helpful for my first > > look at my vacation images. > > Hi > Let's be clear on what a style is, and what a preset. > > A "style" is smoehting you create in lighttable in the "styles" section > on the right side. It contains setting for multiple modules. This will > not work as you expect it, it will not re-calculate auto settings, but > just copy the values from the modules which are part of the style. > > "Presets" are created in the module in darkroom. Here you can create the > preset, and create filters to which images the pre-set should be applied > on import. And it looks to me that this works as you expect. If you > select "auto" in "Levels", create a pre-set from this, add filters as > you like, then it's calculating the auto-settings on each new import (if > the filters match, of course). > > But as I said, to be honest, I just started playing with it, and maybe > it only looked like it worked... > > Best regards, > Michael > > > -- > Michael Staats > michael.sta...@gmx.de > > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] darktable automatic adjustments
Hi, I also face the problem having 4000 images just coming back from vacation. Usually for me this will take several weeks/months. I was interested to try the style approach mentioned above and indeed, having a style with auto levels and auto exposure is different to copying settings for these modules. However, it still does not seem to work for me: If I apply the style and then open the levels module and press auto I get a different result. So obviously auto wasnt applied either. Is it me or is the auto preset style not working? Having the auto style approach working would be helpful for my first look at my vacation images. Kind regards Dave Am Mi., 21. Nov. 2018 um 07:40 Uhr schrieb Michael Staats < michael.sta...@gmx.de>: > On 21/11/2018 03:54, Jozef Dassen wrote: > > > > My question: how do other users apply basic corrections when importing > > large number of images ?? > > > > Hi > To be honest, I have just tried it a few times, and it seems to work. > > You can > > - switch on "auto" (in Levels or Exposure) > - create a preset > - auto-apply this preset to all raw images > > I re-imported a few images (made a copy to a new directory and just > imported), and it's not working like a "style" (which simply copies the > values, as you observed), but it re-calculates the automatic setting > each on each import. > I'm not sure I'll leave this setting, in most cases it helped, but some > pictures where auto-exposed to bright for my taste -- but ok, fine > tuning will have to be manual, anyway. > > Best regards, > Michael > > -- > Michael Staats > michael.sta...@gmx.de > > > > > darktable user mailing list > to unsubscribe send a mail to > darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org > > darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
[darktable-user] darktable automatic adjustments
On 21/11/2018 03:54, Jozef Dassen wrote: > > My question: how do other users apply basic corrections when importing > large number of images ?? > Hi To be honest, I have just tried it a few times, and it seems to work. You can - switch on "auto" (in Levels or Exposure) - create a preset - auto-apply this preset to all raw images I re-imported a few images (made a copy to a new directory and just imported), and it's not working like a "style" (which simply copies the values, as you observed), but it re-calculates the automatic setting each on each import. I'm not sure I'll leave this setting, in most cases it helped, but some pictures where auto-exposed to bright for my taste -- but ok, fine tuning will have to be manual, anyway. Best regards, Michael -- Michael Staats michael.sta...@gmx.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] darktable automatic adjustments
On 21/11/2018 03:54, Jozef Dassen wrote: > > My question: how do other users apply basic corrections when importing > large number of images ?? > Hi To be honest, I have just tried it a few times, and it seems to work. You can - switch on "auto" (in Levels or Exposure) - create a preset - auto-apply this preset to all raw images I re-imported a few images (made a copy to a new directory and just imported), and it's not working like a "style" (which simply copies the values, as you observed), but it re-calculates the automatic setting each on each import. I'm not sure I'll leave this setting, in most cases it helped, but some pictures where auto-exposed to bright for my taste -- but ok, fine tuning will have to be manual, anyway. Best regards, Michael -- Michael Staats michael.sta...@gmx.de darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
Re: [darktable-user] darktable automatic adjustments
On 2018-11-20 18:54, Jozef Dassen wrote: Hello, Hi, For the third time I am making an attempt to convert to darktable I am a longtime Capture One user (since version 5) and have tens of thousands of images processed in CO. Reprocessing them in darktable is not an option obviously. Both darktable and Capture One are excellent Raw Processors but both are lousy Catalogs (for my needs). I do not want to go into a catalog discussion in this email. I will probably come back to that seperately. I now have built my own image catalog that can take processed images from either darktable or CO and handles them equally. My catalog provides a unified view with all the necessary metadata for filtering, wherever the image comes from. So that is why I would now like to switch to darktable. I am a longtime Unix user and prefer Linux over Windows. Capture One is the only reason I still have Windows. If Capture One would move to Linux, I would stay with them, but they are not interested in Linux (I have been asking for years). Never tried Capture One - looked on the web site and looks like a capable program. But so is Adobe Light room. These work well in Windows. But again... I am managing on 7 year old computer under Linux and DT. My computer would not be able to lift Windows comfortably with RAW processing on top. Looks like I am gonna stay with Linux / DT. So now that I am (almost) ready to switch, I am still encountering some problems. I would like to ask how other users approach this problem: I'll put comments in line... When I come back from a trip I usually have a thousand or more pictures. Me too - about 4000 - 5000 usually (vacations / family photos) I process them by subject/location/date usually in batches of 200-300. In Capture One I import them and run them though an Auto Adjust process that adjusts Exposure, Levels and HDR, as a first pass before selecting images for further processing. (For one of my cameras I also run auto whitebalance). CO does a good job in Auto Adjust. But I can find no similar functionality in darktable. As far as I can see every image needs to be adjusted (or at least checked) individually. For me the most important modules would be Exposure and Levels. I use exposure mainly. Levels - rarely. These tools have auto functionality which is OK when used on each image directly, but when using it in a style, it does not do an auto adjust at all. It seems to copy the adjustments applied from when the style was created. Very counter-intuitive !! My question: how do other users apply basic corrections when importing large number of images ?? Large amount of images - usually are associated with more than one that is taken in the same (or almost the same) condition. I usually dump everything in one folder (after renaming them to some meaningful - to me - name). After that - I work through the images. The groups (if any) are the related by location. I'd mark all that are being considered with a color label. If an image is mis focused, bad pose etc - it is discarded right away - rejected (I don't process it). If I am in between for several images - I develop one and then transfer to the complete series of images that are being considered by copy / paste the stack. My "DT style" is very simplistic and simply applies demosaic, lens correction, shadows and highlights (in the default). After that is a bit more tunning (white balance, exposure - some times I use the picker others I just go by histograms / warning tones on the image). There is automatic level on the exposure (and I've seen some users are very successful with it). For some reason - I mostly end up with the manual. There are other add on styles - for example - gradient with dithering, or denoise, some times just presets for modules (like base curve - multiple exposures). Usually I apply these as addition to what I initially process. The modules that I use constantly have hot keys associated with them. I should say however - I don't treat my work as a "production". It is a hobby. It works for me hope this helps... Regards, Jozef Dassen Regards, B darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org darktable user mailing list to unsubscribe send a mail to darktable-user+unsubscr...@lists.darktable.org
