What exactly does beagle?

2007-10-07 Thread Pol Hallen
Hi all :-)

I've a server with samba share and rsyncd on many folders.

On my client I've the share folders mounted with smbmount on server and beagle 
active on this mounting share.

Often, when I use rsync to do a backup of many folders (the same shared) rsync 
copy several files and dir that I don't modified(!)

Can bealge while indexing, modify that file? (access time, or other?)

If I don't active beagle this don't happen.
 
Thanks!

Pol
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Re: What exactly does beagle?

2007-10-07 Thread Debajyoti Bera
 I've a server with samba share and rsyncd on many folders.

 On my client I've the share folders mounted with smbmount on server and
 beagle active on this mounting share.

 Often, when I use rsync to do a backup of many folders (the same shared)
 rsync copy several files and dir that I don't modified(!)

 Can bealge while indexing, modify that file? (access time, or other?)

Generally during indexing Beagle writes some bookkeeping metadata in the 
extended attribute of a file. Also, during crawling it reads the extended 
attributes. Both of these changes the ctime and the atime of the file.

You can run with BEAGLE_DISABLE_XATTR; then it wont write and read extended 
attributes. But during indexing it has to read the file, so atime would be 
changed.

(From http://beagle-project.org/FAQ Do I really need extended attributes?)

- dBera

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Re: What exactly does beagle?

2007-10-07 Thread Pol Hallen
 You can run with BEAGLE_DISABLE_XATTR; then it wont write and read extended
 attributes. But during indexing it has to read the file, so atime would be
 changed.
smbfs doesn't support XATTR attributes.

I can disable in rsync the atime directive.

Thanks!
Pol
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Re: beagle r4019 - in trunk/beagle: Util beagled beagled/DownloadsMetadataQueryable

2007-10-07 Thread Debajyoti Bera
Hi Kevin,

  Just a passing comment, I for some reason dont feel very comfortable with
  this backend. Its an uneasy feeling, probably because of the fact that
  the metadata (i.e. the origin of a file) information is not available
  in the file itself nor there is a guarantee that the metadata is always
  correct.

 And, again, is something that probably should have been prototyped
 first on a branch, or a bugzilla patch.

I agree with Joe on this one - I moved the changes to 
beagle-external-metadata-tags branch. The problem has significant overlap 
with that of implementing any external-metadata backend, including tags. Lets 
think about the problem and get it fixed in the branch.

- dBera

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