Re: [External Email] [datameet] Data on behavior of MPs/MLAs once elected

[Raman Chima]

While we do not have "conscience votes" in Indian legislatures, that is one
factor amongst a few related issues that results in the fact that recorded
votes are generally not a rule. Most votes on matters in Parliament tend to
be a voice vote, with divisions rarely called - and the
deterioration/further partisan positioning of speakers and presiding
offices resulting in even fewer acceptance of division requests recently.
The Indian Parliament is definitely one of the more striking examples
amongst national parliaments for that.
https://prsindia.org/articles-by-prs-team/parliament-voting-ayes-vs-noes-and-road-from-manual-to-electronic-recording

That said, I wouldn't say that MP behaviour, interventions in the house do
not form a component worth studying in order to understand their behaviour.
Even looking at the range of interventions they make provides a useful
sense of the issues they do raise in parliamentary questions, interventions
(and who they join together in such interventions and on what topics,
including constituency issues), as well as the private members bills that
many MPs file, even though they know the chance of such bills being
accepted for introduction, let alone later debate and enactment, are loaded
against them. The PRS MPTrack tool for each MP is quite useful in that
regard as an opening sense of that as Shiv mentioned. It does require more
careful analysis and a recognition of the multi-tiered reasons that might
motivate an MP (asking a question on a stalled project is often a
reasonable tactic for an MP belonging to/allied with the ruling coalition
if they believe they have limited inroads to the executive branch
ministry/agency concerned, whereas opposition MPs would perhaps be more
inclined to try to bring a debate on an issue. And sometimes questions may
be jointly asked by several MPs because they depend on common secretarial
staff or party machinery). And MPs themselves do monitor the statistics
released on their parliamentary activity and what the press may be saying
on them as a result of that (again, the context can vary based on the
political affiliation, political situation of the MP and the wider
government-legislative relationship on that issue or person).

For most subject specific study, people use the initial data released by
the houses of Parliament and compiled by PRS, and then go deeper into the
text of the actual questions asked, answers received, transcript of house
proceedings (because the summarisation often misses key important
telltales, trends for lawmaker activity).

I would encourage you to speak to the teams at PRS, who can share what of
their own datasets are available and the best way to understand lawmaker
activity, trends based on that data. [happy to connect you if helpful,
though some may already be on this list]

Raman.

On Tue, 25 Apr 2023 at 21:33, Ryu Matsuura  wrote:

> Thanks so much everyone (and sorry for my late reply)! This is of
> tremendous help - given what Praachi and Peter mentioned, the provision of
> local public goods (or something else along the line) may be more helpful
> to understand the behavior of Indian politicians... Thanks again!
>
> On Wednesday, April 19, 2023 at 6:25:03 AM UTC-5 pmay...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hi Ryu,
>>
>> I endorse what Praachi has said in his response: in Parliamentary
>> systems, party discipline is the rule. In Australia, for example, on the
>> rare occasion an MP defies 'the whip' it may be front page news.
>> Many years ago Henry Hart interviewed many MPs in the Indian Lok Sabha.
>> Since there were no interesting differences in voting behaviour, he
>> concentrated on the different ways they related to their constituents:
>> "MPs as Nation-Builders"
>> Henry C. Hart
>> Economic and Political Weekly
>> Vol. 2, No. 3/5, Annual Number (Feb., 1967), pp. 191+193-195+197-200 (8
>> pages)
>>
>> best wishes,
>> Peter Mayer
>>
>> On Wednesday, April 19, 2023 at 3:30:48 PM UTC+9:30 Praachi Misra wrote:
>>
>>> In India, voting on legislation is not a 'conscience vote'. Legislators,
>>> do not take individual positions, but follow the party whip. Not following
>>> the whip can lead to the disqualification of legislators, or breakaway
>>> groups.
>>>
>>> A detailed write up is available *here
>>> 
>>> *from the Lok Sabha & Parliament library. PRS provides a more concise
>>> write-up here
>>> .
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> P
>>>
>>> On Wednesday, April 19, 2023 at 1:07:56 AM UTC+5:30 Ryu Matsuura wrote:
>>>
 Hi Shiv,

 Thanks for asking and sorry for the lack of clarity here - what I meant
 is how each MP/MLA votes for bills/legislations introduced in assemblies. I
 fundamentally would like to understand how each politician behaves in
 office so I wonder if there are any datasets or archives on (i) which bill
 is introduced by 

Re: [datameet] Fwd: Aadhaar must for web-access to Survey of India maps

[Raman Chima]

Hi Thej,

Is this a draft letter of has it already been sent?

Raman.

On Tue, 11 Apr 2017 at 2:11 PM, Thejesh GN  wrote:

> Open community wrote a letter along to push for openess and to follow the
> existing open platform, policy and license.
>
>
> https://datameet.hackpad.com/Letter-to-Survey-of-India-
> Regarding-the-Nakshe-Portal-April-2017-UKXm33zU3oG
>
> Team and organizations can use it as template as well.
>
> We will blog about about it in coming days.
>
>
> Thej
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> On 11-Apr-2017 11:13 AM, Sharad Lele [शरच्चंद्र लेले] <
> sharad.l...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/website-launched-for-
> govt-map-download-but-aadhaar-mandatory/article17908003.ece
>
>
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Re: [datameet] DataMeet team YOU ALL! Acknowledged in Economic Survey

[Raman Chima]

Great stuff; thanks for helping advance this for everyone here!

A question: what specific takeaways on the open data side do you see here?
I saw one in the urban local bodies section (pasted below), but wasn't sure
if there were others:

"
*14.27 Finally, data and transparency can play an important role here.*

*• MoUD should give greater priority to compile and publish comprehensive
data on ULBs and urban sector. Perhaps, grants to ULBs should be more
tightly linked to comprehensive and updated data disclosure and
transparency by ULBs. *
*• NITI Aayog should compile comparative indices of municipalities’
performance annually based on the actual accountability and administrative
capacity to deliver the core public services*. "

On 31 January 2017 at 15:24, Nisha Thompson  wrote:

> Economic Survey is done and the acknowledgment page has a few familiar
> names and also a big mention to the entire DataMeet community!
>
> A big thank you to this entire community for proving that openness and
> sharing of data is important!
>
> http://finmin.nic.in/indiabudget2017-2018/es2016-17/eacknowledgements.pdf
>
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> DataMeet.org
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> mobile: 962-061-2245
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Re: [datameet] #savethemap Meeting at CIS tomorrow at 4 to 6pm

[Raman Chima]

Hangout link wasn't working for me. Could someone add me via
ramanch...@gmail.com?

On 11 May 2016 at 16:21, Sajjad Anwar <m...@sajjad.in> wrote:

> Talking agenda + minutes here:
> https://datameet.hackpad.com/Agenda-May-11-2016-mAAGmQEbgJp
>
> On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 4:13 PM, Nisha Thompson <ni...@datameet.org>
> wrote:
>
>> hangout!
>>
>> https://hangouts.google.com/hangouts/_/datameet.org/savethemap
>>
>> On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 10:59 PM, Raman Chima <ramanch...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hiya,
>>>
>>> I would like to join Nisha. I can only join from around 4:30 to 5:30PM
>>> though; I unfortunately have other meetings in between.
>>>
>>> I am happy to share what I know on background (take a little bit of that
>>> former police chap's words with a pinch of salt) and help on next steps
>>> with respect to policy and advocacy - at least what I can try to help with.
>>>
>>> Raman.
>>>
>>> On 10 May 2016 at 19:54, Vaishnavi Jayakumar (Inclusive India) <
>>> vaishnavi.jayaku...@inclusiveindia.info> wrote:
>>>
>>>> FYI - Update
>>>>
>>>> MHA open to reviewing of draft Geospatial Bill
>>>> <http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/map-issue-govt-ready-for-review-of-geospatial-bill/article8576356.ece>
>>>>
>>>> *10-May-2016*
>>>>
>>>> *According to the draft ‘The Geospatial Information Regulation Bill
>>>> 2016’, it will be mandatory to take permission from a government authority
>>>> before acquiring, disseminating, publishing or distributing any geospatial
>>>> information on India.*
>>>>
>>>> Even as the Ministry of Home Affairs (MHA) agreed to review a
>>>> much-criticised draft Bill that proposes jail term of seven years and a
>>>> fine up to Rs. 100 crore for wrongly depicting the map of India, officials
>>>> said the Bill was first drafted in 2012 and the January 2 attack at the
>>>> Pathankot airbase was the immediate trigger for reintroducing the Bill.
>>>>
>>>> Three days after the draft Geospatial Information Regulation Bill, 2016
>>>> was uploaded on the Home Ministry’s website seeking comments from the
>>>> public, the government on Monday indicated that it was open to review its
>>>> contents and consider all suggestions that are to come in the next one
>>>> month.
>>>>
>>>> The draft Bill has come under scathing criticism on social media and
>>>> other online platforms for its draconian features.
>>>>
>>>> *‘Send valid suggestions’*
>>>>
>>>> Uttarakhand DGP M.A. Ganapathy who was one of the officials to draft
>>>> the Bill during his stint in the MHA, told The Hindu, “instead of getting
>>>> hysterical, people should send valid and sane suggestions to oppose the
>>>> draft Bill. This is at a draft stage and the idea was to invite comments.”
>>>>
>>>> Another official involved in drafting the Bill said, “this Bill has
>>>> been in the works since 2012. A committee of secretaries (CoS) had
>>>> submitted a report calling for an regulatory body to monitor the Internet
>>>> giants like Google and Microsoft. How else do you regulate them, by
>>>> begging?”
>>>> The official added that the investigations in the Pathankot airbase
>>>> attack revealed that the terrorists who got into the airbase had precise
>>>> information about its topography. “The Pathankot airbase and other
>>>> strategic locations are easily available on Google maps and it has become
>>>> easier for terrorists to plan an attack. When Pathankot happened, we
>>>> decided that this was the time to revisit the Bill,” said the official.
>>>>
>>>> According to the draft Bill, it will be mandatory to take permission
>>>> from a government authority before acquiring, disseminating, publishing or
>>>> distributing any geospatial information of India. "No person shall depict,
>>>> disseminate, publish or distribute any wrong or false topographic
>>>> information of India including international boundaries through internet
>>>> platforms or online services or in any electronic or physical form.
>>>> "Whoever acquired any geospatial information of India in contravention
>>>> of the law shall be punished with a fine ranging from Rs 1 crore to Rs 100
>>>> crore and/ or impr

Re: [datameet] #savethemap Meeting at CIS tomorrow at 4 to 6pm

[Raman Chima]

Hiya,

I would like to join Nisha. I can only join from around 4:30 to 5:30PM
though; I unfortunately have other meetings in between.

I am happy to share what I know on background (take a little bit of that
former police chap's words with a pinch of salt) and help on next steps
with respect to policy and advocacy - at least what I can try to help with.

Raman.

On 10 May 2016 at 19:54, Vaishnavi Jayakumar (Inclusive India) <
vaishnavi.jayaku...@inclusiveindia.info> wrote:

> FYI - Update
>
> MHA open to reviewing of draft Geospatial Bill
> 
>
> *10-May-2016*
>
> *According to the draft ‘The Geospatial Information Regulation Bill 2016’,
> it will be mandatory to take permission from a government authority before
> acquiring, disseminating, publishing or distributing any geospatial
> information on India.*
>
> Even as the Ministry of Home Affairs (MHA) agreed to review a
> much-criticised draft Bill that proposes jail term of seven years and a
> fine up to Rs. 100 crore for wrongly depicting the map of India, officials
> said the Bill was first drafted in 2012 and the January 2 attack at the
> Pathankot airbase was the immediate trigger for reintroducing the Bill.
>
> Three days after the draft Geospatial Information Regulation Bill, 2016
> was uploaded on the Home Ministry’s website seeking comments from the
> public, the government on Monday indicated that it was open to review its
> contents and consider all suggestions that are to come in the next one
> month.
>
> The draft Bill has come under scathing criticism on social media and other
> online platforms for its draconian features.
>
> *‘Send valid suggestions’*
>
> Uttarakhand DGP M.A. Ganapathy who was one of the officials to draft the
> Bill during his stint in the MHA, told The Hindu, “instead of getting
> hysterical, people should send valid and sane suggestions to oppose the
> draft Bill. This is at a draft stage and the idea was to invite comments.”
>
> Another official involved in drafting the Bill said, “this Bill has been
> in the works since 2012. A committee of secretaries (CoS) had submitted a
> report calling for an regulatory body to monitor the Internet giants like
> Google and Microsoft. How else do you regulate them, by begging?”
> The official added that the investigations in the Pathankot airbase attack
> revealed that the terrorists who got into the airbase had precise
> information about its topography. “The Pathankot airbase and other
> strategic locations are easily available on Google maps and it has become
> easier for terrorists to plan an attack. When Pathankot happened, we
> decided that this was the time to revisit the Bill,” said the official.
>
> According to the draft Bill, it will be mandatory to take permission from
> a government authority before acquiring, disseminating, publishing or
> distributing any geospatial information of India. "No person shall depict,
> disseminate, publish or distribute any wrong or false topographic
> information of India including international boundaries through internet
> platforms or online services or in any electronic or physical form.
> "Whoever acquired any geospatial information of India in contravention of
> the law shall be punished with a fine ranging from Rs 1 crore to Rs 100
> crore and/ or imprisonment for a period upto seven years," according to the
> draft bill. The government also proposed to set up a Security Vetting
> Authority to carry out security vetting of the Geospatial Information of
> India in a time bound manner and as per the regulations framed by an apex
> committee.
>
> However, there have been criticism from various quarters saying the
> provisions of the draft bill are stringent and may violate privacy of
> individuals.
>
> The Home Ministry official discounted the apprehensions saying except
> authorised agencies, that too after due permission, no one can invade
> anyone's privacy.
>
> Geospatial Information means geospatial imagery or data acquired through
> space or aerial platforms such as satellite, aircrafts, airships, balloons,
> unmanned aerial vehicles including value addition or graphical or digital
> data depicting natural or man-made physical features, phenomenon or
> boundaries of the earth or any information related thereto including
> surveys, charts, maps, terrestrial photos referenced to co-ordinate system
> and having attributes.
>
>
> http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/map-issue-govt-ready-for-review-of-geospatial-bill/article8576356.ece
>
>
> *Govt may review provisions of draft Geospatial Bill
> *
>
> *PTI | May 9, 2016, 06.32 PM IST*
>
> *New Delhi, May 9 () *Facing criticism, the government today indicated
> that it was ready for review of the provisions of a draft bill that
> proposes jail term 

Re: [datameet] [ODCBLR2014][Video] Mr. Krishnamurthy

[Raman Chima]

Thej,

You should be able to merge the three videos into one online via YouTube
also. Will other videos and content from the Open Data Camp be uploaded
soon as well?

Raman.


On 2 April 2014 22:26, Thejesh GN i...@thejeshgn.com wrote:

 I just uploaded the video to youtube, Its a high resolution video and is
 cut into 3 parts. Please check it at

 http://datameet.org/2014/04/02/odcblr2014-address-by-ts-krishnamurthy/


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