[datameet] Re: What do you people think about the new proposed Bill about Maps and Geospatial data

[Hasan Ali Khan]

Guys,

Sorry if this has been covered elsewhere. I was following the STM 
initiative closely till the deadline but haven't been able to since. Has 
there been any update about this? Did they take note of the reservations 
raised?

Cheers!


On Thursday, 2 June 2016 16:17:21 UTC+5:30, inv...@diggie.io wrote:
>
> Hi guys,
>
> The deadline for response to the bill is approaching fast so please do 
> remember to send your emails for the Geospatial bill.
> I have created http://diggie.io/savethemap.html to spread awareness about 
> it and shared around. (Not sure if I will be able to do it again if the 
> bill is accepted in its current form)
> So please send your responses before the deadline.
>  
> Cheers,
> Ankit
> www.diggie.io
>
> On Monday, May 9, 2016 at 8:26:30 PM UTC+8, Craig Dsouza wrote:
>>
>> I am in favour of a strong stance against this bill being passed in any 
>> form. There should be (almost) no compromises. The only regulation I can 
>> possibly support is regulating map providers so that they blank out all 
>> military areas, but this bill is much much larger in scope than that. We 
>> should directly raise the question of what goal is really achieved by this 
>> bill? Since ostensibly, the main purpose of the bill i.e. preserving the 
>> '*security, 
>> sovereignity and integrity of India*' can still be threatened because 
>> geospatial data (satellite imagery etc) for India is still available to 
>> people outside India. 
>> Many have suggested that this is not really about integrity but 
>> representation i.e. international boundaries, to compel map providers to 
>> show India's boundaries, as declared by the GoI. This in fact Google 
>> already does, they show all of J as India's territory. Even if they don't 
>> in my opinion amounts to restriction on freedom of speech if you are not 
>> allowed to make a map showing that one part of the country is claimed by 
>> other governments, or a map showing that some people, somewhere are 
>> demanding a new state.
>> This bill will also severely affect NGOs which definitely cannot afford 
>> the process of licensing for every single map they wish to use/publish. It 
>> could also be used as a tool to silence dissent if organizations publish 
>> maps the government doesn't like.
>>
>> The *email template* to be sent out is top priority. Is there someone 
>> already working on it? It should reject the bill altogether explaining why 
>> this bill doesn't really achieve its stated purpose and also how it will 
>> stifle GIS innovation in India.
>> The wording of the email template will need to be simple language, 
>> without tech jargon. 
>>
>> On Monday, May 9, 2016 at 10:38:46 AM UTC+5:30, Dilip Damle wrote:
>>>
>>> Or else all those small players will have to go Underground as happens 
>>> in oppressive regimes.
>>>
>>> On Sunday, May 8, 2016 at 9:37:30 PM UTC+5:30, Gagan Bansal wrote:

 On Thursday, May 5, 2016 at 11:06:40 PM UTC+5:30, Dilip Damle wrote: 
 > HI,  
 > 
 > I was shocked to see this news today.  
 > 
 > 
 http://www.businessinsider.in/PoK-and-Arunachal-as-disputed-territories/articleshow/52129850.cms
  
 > 
 > 
 > 
 > 
 > A part from the news  
 > 
 > "To add to this, the Geospatial Information Regulation Bill would 
 soon be brought to tables, and any person or institution acquiring and 
 disseminating any geospatial imagery or data of any part of India through 
 space or aerial platforms will be required to first seek permission and 
 license from a government authority."  
 > 
 > A so  a large part of what we are doing here will become Illegal 
 > 
 > 
 > 
 > 
 > 
 > Rgards  
 > Dilip Damle 

 Hi, 

 Here are my observations: 
 # I feel if this bill is passed in partial/modified or full, not at all 
  good for small companies/startup that are working on open source map 
 data/OSM or creating geospatial data in some form. as big companies 
 (International mapping companies or utility/telecom companies) can easily 
 set up a division to liaison with licensing authority on monthly basis or 
 as per requirement. But for small companies this would not be possible. So 
 in any form of licensing is problematic. 

 # Another major point, In India most of the geospatial companies are 
 service companies which are working for government agencies. So data 
 ownership for such services would be with govt. agencies hence licensing 
 policy is not applicable here and would not affect these companies. Most 
 likely all research/educational institutions would not be included in 
 licensing policy. So very small segment of industry is affected. To raise 
 the voice there are very few people if we compare this bill with net 
 neutrality bill. 

 So tackling the problem is not very simple. 

 We should put this issue that this bill is 

[datameet] Re: What do you people think about the new proposed Bill about Maps and Geospatial data

[invite]

Hi guys,

The deadline for response to the bill is approaching fast so please do 
remember to send your emails for the Geospatial bill.
I have created http://diggie.io/savethemap.html to spread awareness about 
it and shared around. (Not sure if I will be able to do it again if the 
bill is accepted in its current form)
So please send your responses before the deadline.
 
Cheers,
Ankit
www.diggie.io

On Monday, May 9, 2016 at 8:26:30 PM UTC+8, Craig Dsouza wrote:
>
> I am in favour of a strong stance against this bill being passed in any 
> form. There should be (almost) no compromises. The only regulation I can 
> possibly support is regulating map providers so that they blank out all 
> military areas, but this bill is much much larger in scope than that. We 
> should directly raise the question of what goal is really achieved by this 
> bill? Since ostensibly, the main purpose of the bill i.e. preserving the 
> '*security, 
> sovereignity and integrity of India*' can still be threatened because 
> geospatial data (satellite imagery etc) for India is still available to 
> people outside India. 
> Many have suggested that this is not really about integrity but 
> representation i.e. international boundaries, to compel map providers to 
> show India's boundaries, as declared by the GoI. This in fact Google 
> already does, they show all of J as India's territory. Even if they don't 
> in my opinion amounts to restriction on freedom of speech if you are not 
> allowed to make a map showing that one part of the country is claimed by 
> other governments, or a map showing that some people, somewhere are 
> demanding a new state.
> This bill will also severely affect NGOs which definitely cannot afford 
> the process of licensing for every single map they wish to use/publish. It 
> could also be used as a tool to silence dissent if organizations publish 
> maps the government doesn't like.
>
> The *email template* to be sent out is top priority. Is there someone 
> already working on it? It should reject the bill altogether explaining why 
> this bill doesn't really achieve its stated purpose and also how it will 
> stifle GIS innovation in India.
> The wording of the email template will need to be simple language, without 
> tech jargon. 
>
> On Monday, May 9, 2016 at 10:38:46 AM UTC+5:30, Dilip Damle wrote:
>>
>> Or else all those small players will have to go Underground as happens in 
>> oppressive regimes.
>>
>> On Sunday, May 8, 2016 at 9:37:30 PM UTC+5:30, Gagan Bansal wrote:
>>>
>>> On Thursday, May 5, 2016 at 11:06:40 PM UTC+5:30, Dilip Damle wrote: 
>>> > HI,  
>>> > 
>>> > I was shocked to see this news today.  
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> http://www.businessinsider.in/PoK-and-Arunachal-as-disputed-territories/articleshow/52129850.cms
>>>  
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > A part from the news  
>>> > 
>>> > "To add to this, the Geospatial Information Regulation Bill would soon 
>>> be brought to tables, and any person or institution acquiring and 
>>> disseminating any geospatial imagery or data of any part of India through 
>>> space or aerial platforms will be required to first seek permission and 
>>> license from a government authority."  
>>> > 
>>> > A so  a large part of what we are doing here will become Illegal 
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > Rgards  
>>> > Dilip Damle 
>>>
>>> Hi, 
>>>
>>> Here are my observations: 
>>> # I feel if this bill is passed in partial/modified or full, not at all 
>>>  good for small companies/startup that are working on open source map 
>>> data/OSM or creating geospatial data in some form. as big companies 
>>> (International mapping companies or utility/telecom companies) can easily 
>>> set up a division to liaison with licensing authority on monthly basis or 
>>> as per requirement. But for small companies this would not be possible. So 
>>> in any form of licensing is problematic. 
>>>
>>> # Another major point, In India most of the geospatial companies are 
>>> service companies which are working for government agencies. So data 
>>> ownership for such services would be with govt. agencies hence licensing 
>>> policy is not applicable here and would not affect these companies. Most 
>>> likely all research/educational institutions would not be included in 
>>> licensing policy. So very small segment of industry is affected. To raise 
>>> the voice there are very few people if we compare this bill with net 
>>> neutrality bill. 
>>>
>>> So tackling the problem is not very simple. 
>>>
>>> We should put this issue that this bill is against "Digital India" and 
>>> "Make in India" objective and I feel its truly against these. 
>>>
>>> Regards, 
>>> Gagan
>>
>>

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[datameet] Re: What do you people think about the new proposed Bill about Maps and Geospatial data

[Craig Dsouza]

I am in favour of a strong stance against this bill being passed in any 
form. There should be (almost) no compromises. The only regulation I can 
possibly support is regulating map providers so that they blank out all 
military areas, but this bill is much much larger in scope than that. We 
should directly raise the question of what goal is really achieved by this 
bill? Since ostensibly, the main purpose of the bill i.e. preserving the 
'*security, 
sovereignity and integrity of India*' can still be threatened because 
geospatial data (satellite imagery etc) for India is still available to 
people outside India. 
Many have suggested that this is not really about integrity but 
representation i.e. international boundaries, to compel map providers to 
show India's boundaries, as declared by the GoI. This in fact Google 
already does, they show all of J as India's territory. Even if they don't 
in my opinion amounts to restriction on freedom of speech if you are not 
allowed to make a map showing that one part of the country is claimed by 
other governments, or a map showing that some people, somewhere are 
demanding a new state.
This bill will also severely affect NGOs which definitely cannot afford the 
process of licensing for every single map they wish to use/publish. It 
could also be used as a tool to silence dissent if organizations publish 
maps the government doesn't like.

The *email template* to be sent out is top priority. Is there someone 
already working on it? It should reject the bill altogether explaining why 
this bill doesn't really achieve its stated purpose and also how it will 
stifle GIS innovation in India.
The wording of the email template will need to be simple language, without 
tech jargon. 

On Monday, May 9, 2016 at 10:38:46 AM UTC+5:30, Dilip Damle wrote:
>
> Or else all those small players will have to go Underground as happens in 
> oppressive regimes.
>
> On Sunday, May 8, 2016 at 9:37:30 PM UTC+5:30, Gagan Bansal wrote:
>>
>> On Thursday, May 5, 2016 at 11:06:40 PM UTC+5:30, Dilip Damle wrote: 
>> > HI,  
>> > 
>> > I was shocked to see this news today.  
>> > 
>> > 
>> http://www.businessinsider.in/PoK-and-Arunachal-as-disputed-territories/articleshow/52129850.cms
>>  
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > A part from the news  
>> > 
>> > "To add to this, the Geospatial Information Regulation Bill would soon 
>> be brought to tables, and any person or institution acquiring and 
>> disseminating any geospatial imagery or data of any part of India through 
>> space or aerial platforms will be required to first seek permission and 
>> license from a government authority."  
>> > 
>> > A so  a large part of what we are doing here will become Illegal 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Rgards  
>> > Dilip Damle 
>>
>> Hi, 
>>
>> Here are my observations: 
>> # I feel if this bill is passed in partial/modified or full, not at all 
>>  good for small companies/startup that are working on open source map 
>> data/OSM or creating geospatial data in some form. as big companies 
>> (International mapping companies or utility/telecom companies) can easily 
>> set up a division to liaison with licensing authority on monthly basis or 
>> as per requirement. But for small companies this would not be possible. So 
>> in any form of licensing is problematic. 
>>
>> # Another major point, In India most of the geospatial companies are 
>> service companies which are working for government agencies. So data 
>> ownership for such services would be with govt. agencies hence licensing 
>> policy is not applicable here and would not affect these companies. Most 
>> likely all research/educational institutions would not be included in 
>> licensing policy. So very small segment of industry is affected. To raise 
>> the voice there are very few people if we compare this bill with net 
>> neutrality bill. 
>>
>> So tackling the problem is not very simple. 
>>
>> We should put this issue that this bill is against "Digital India" and 
>> "Make in India" objective and I feel its truly against these. 
>>
>> Regards, 
>> Gagan
>
>

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Re: [datameet] Re: What do you people think about the new proposed Bill about Maps and Geospatial data

[Avinash Celestine]

Also, i guess its worthwhile pointing out that if the primary aim is to
prevent inaccurate depiction of India's borders and impose penalties on
those who do, there is already existing legislation which does that.

https://indiankanoon.org/doc/496978/

Plus, the IT act too penalises wrong depiction of boundaries.

it is worth looking at this piece from back in 2007, which talked about the
possibility of such legislation:

http://www.livemint.com/Politics/IRguUu8B1fWHgS8ej3rI5M/Showing-incorrect-map-could-become-a-crime.html



On Mon, May 9, 2016 at 12:21 PM, shirish शिरीष 
wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> As a layman user of maps, did my 2-bit.
>
>
> https://flossexperiences.wordpress.com/2016/05/09/using-gps-without-license-jail-for-7-years/
>
> People are welcome to critique it (I know it goes all over the place
> and have added govt. conspiracy which some people might not be
> comfortable with) .
>
> Do have suggestion that if people do make blog posts that the least we
> can do is do ping and linkback to each other, if for nothing but to
> show solidarity in the cause.
>
> My 2 paise :)
>
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[datameet] Re: What do you people think about the new proposed Bill about Maps and Geospatial data

[Gagan Bansal]

On Thursday, May 5, 2016 at 11:06:40 PM UTC+5:30, Dilip Damle wrote:
> HI, 
> 
> I was shocked to see this news today. 
> 
> http://www.businessinsider.in/PoK-and-Arunachal-as-disputed-territories/articleshow/52129850.cms
> 
> 
> 
> 
> A part from the news 
> 
> "To add to this, the Geospatial Information Regulation Bill would soon be 
> brought to tables, and any person or institution acquiring and disseminating 
> any geospatial imagery or data of any part of India through space or aerial 
> platforms will be required to first seek permission and license from a 
> government authority." 
> 
> A so  a large part of what we are doing here will become Illegal
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Rgards 
> Dilip Damle

Hi,

Here are my observations:
# I feel if this bill is passed in partial/modified or full, not at all  good 
for small companies/startup that are working on open source map data/OSM or 
creating geospatial data in some form. as big companies (International mapping 
companies or utility/telecom companies) can easily set up a division to liaison 
with licensing authority on monthly basis or as per requirement. But for small 
companies this would not be possible. So in any form of licensing is 
problematic.

# Another major point, In India most of the geospatial companies are service 
companies which are working for government agencies. So data ownership for such 
services would be with govt. agencies hence licensing policy is not applicable 
here and would not affect these companies. Most likely all research/educational 
institutions would not be included in licensing policy. So very small segment 
of industry is affected. To raise the voice there are very few people if we 
compare this bill with net neutrality bill.

So tackling the problem is not very simple. 

We should put this issue that this bill is against "Digital India" and "Make in 
India" objective and I feel its truly against these.

Regards,
Gagan

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Re: [datameet] Re: What do you people think about the new proposed Bill about Maps and Geospatial data

[Vaishnavi Jayakumar (Inclusive India)]

We need to ask ourselves why the ONLY real regulatory legislation coming up
on geospatial technology in India, is by the Ministry of Home Affairs, and
not something more appropriate like Earth Sciences / IT etc

Some clues on its genesis below. Have after reading a decent analysis (that
I can no longer find) on law in this area, have dumped relevant stuff with
links on a hackpad



This also provides a good regulatory brief SURVEY & MAPPING IN INDIA - THE
REGULATORY FRAMEWORK
 and is a
recommended read.



*21-Mar-2016*
Govt plans law on what can be seen in India from skies

Under the draft legislation — tentatively titled Geospatial Information
Regulation Bill — disseminating, publishing or displaying information that
is likely to affect “security, sovereignty or integrity” of the country
will become a punishable crime, a senior government official told Hindustan
Times.

The Centre is drafting a law to regulate data and high resolution images
collected from the skies and shared through applications such as Google
Earth, a move aimed at securing strategic installations from enemy eyes.

Under the draft legislation — tentatively titled Geospatial Information
Regulation Bill — disseminating, publishing or displaying information that
is likely to affect “security, sovereignty or integrity” of the country
will become a punishable crime, a senior government official told Hindustan
Times.

The term geospatial refers to data on a location collected through
satellites, unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs), aircraft and balloons.

The Indian Space Research Organisation (Isro) has its own app called Bhuvan
which provides geospatial data to the public. Many other applications give
a 360-degree view of important towns and cities around the world which,
security agencies believe, could be used by terrorist groups to plan
attacks.

“A draft bill has been prepared and is being circulated among all
stakeholders for their views to firm up the legislation,” said the official
involved in drafting the bill. He spoke on the condition of anonymity.

“The idea is not to ban such applications but regulate them,” the official
added. India has no specific law to regulate geospatial information despite
security and privacy concerns, the official said.

Stressing that the company takes security very seriously, a Google
spokesperson said: “We believe that geospatial information can be used to
empower individuals and organisations to make positive contributions in
their respective environments.”

Investigators who probed the 2008 Mumbai attack suspect that the terrorists
were shown their targets on apps such as Google Earth by their handlers
prior to the strike. The government so far has not allowed Google to take
three-dimensional images of India.

The draft suggests establishing a security vetting authority to scrutinise
applications of geospatial information or data providers that intend to put
data in public domain. “Such a legislation is urgently required. If it is
enacted and applied along with the Information Technology Act, it can help
the government in regularising geospatial information or data,” said lawyer
Pawan Duggal who specialises on cyber laws.

http://www.hindustantimes.com/india/govt-plans-law-on-what-can-be-seen-in-india-from-skies/story-2d1cAeXcxexHKIFL6VYm0K.html



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On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 2:14 PM, Dilip Damle  wrote:

> May be it caters to a different Audience
>
>
>
> https://www.facebook.com/IndiaAgainstBazaruMedia/photos/a.1597608200495492.1073741829.1588778484711797/1720074534915524/?type=3
>
> On Friday, May 6, 2016 at 1:52:10 PM UTC+5:30, Shirish Agarwal wrote:
>>
>> at bottom :-
>>
>> On 06/05/2016, Praachi Misra  wrote:
>> > The law as it reads currently, is kafkaesque,. there are 4 different
>> bodies
>> >
>> > being created, and nobody actually trying to subvert national security
>> will
>> >
>> > contemplate seeking a licence. A map that can actually be utilised (not
>> > scanned copy of pdf) should solve the problem of boundaries.
>> >
>> > We can only wonder. why?
>> >
>> > Praachi
>> >
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I read the draft bill and have the same concerns as everybody else.
>> Before I start further, the hackpad shared cannot be read anonymously,
>> could something be done about it.
>>
>> https://datameet.hackpad.com/Geospatial-Bill-2016-zJwgcQaIvBq
>>
>> I just don't want to join another platform just to read.
>>
>> Quite simply, it seems it's being done so that GOI and ISRO's Bhuvan
>> have monopoly over all GIS, killing effectively all private as well as
>> community-based entities and interventions or only give licenses to
>> big businesses like Google and other such big private providers, (Here
>> maps come to mind) as well as those who are 

Re: [datameet] Re: What do you people think about the new proposed Bill about Maps and Geospatial data

[Karthik Balakrishnan]

Hi folks,
I'm new here, I saw what you guys were doing(via @thej) and wanted to help 
in whatever way I can.

I made the site a little prettier, and a simple logo 
- http://karthikb351.github.io/savethemap.in/

I think this is still early days, but I have a few thoughts on how we 
should approach this if want to drum up support from the public. I think a 
simplified version of the bill with the implications for various 
stakeholders would be a good start. An open letter/response only makes 
sense if the public understands what the bill is about and how it matters 
to them.

@thej, @geohacker - Filed a PR 
- https://github.com/datameet/savethemap.in/pull/3

Best,

Karthik Balakrishnan


On Friday, 6 May 2016 17:03:19 UTC+5:30, Vaishnavi Jayakumar wrote:
>
>
> Thejesh,
>
> I think DocumentCloud is fantastic.
>
> Have enviously seen it used with great effect to annotate the disability 
> bill. 
>
> If we have access to all its features we can build a solid case. While at 
> the same time allowing free speech type commenting that no one can crib 
> about.
>
> Hackpad for non tech / programming types sounds a little intimidating, 
> starting with its name!
> On May 6, 2016 10:26 AM, "Thejesh GN"  
> wrote:
>
>> @all
>> 1. I have the document to document cloud, so its easy to comment, embed 
>> etc
>>
>> https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2824467-Request-for-comments-suggestions-on-draft-The.html
>>
>> 2. should we have a hackpad ? for listing startups and orgs?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  
>>
>> Thej
>> --
>> Thejesh GN *⏚* ತೇಜೇಶ್ ಜಿ.ಎನ್
>> http://thejeshgn.com
>> GPG ID :  0xBFFC8DD3C06DD6B0
>>
>> On 6 May 2016 at 10:12, Nisha Thompson  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> @Praachi
>>> Can you give the policy a once over and provide a legal summary of its 
>>> implications?
>>>
>>> I'll try to find out if anyone was in the consultation.
>>>
>>> Nisha
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 10:09 AM, Nisha Thompson >> > wrote:
>>>
 We can't just respond. We need to build a coalition of partners and 
 businesses who are opposed. 

 We need to also write opeds and editorials on why this is a bad policy 
 for India and for economic growth.

 Can we get a list together of businesses and organizations that use GIS 
 and build awareness on why this is a bad policy?

 I think a small working group is important, let's organize this on here.

 Nisha

 On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 9:41 AM, Praachi Misra  wrote:

> Was anybody part of the consultation for this Bill? Any communication 
> with NIC regarding this?
>
>
> On Thursday, May 5, 2016 at 11:06:40 PM UTC+5:30, Dilip Damle wrote:
>>
>> HI, 
>>
>> I was shocked to see this news today. 
>>
>>
>> http://www.businessinsider.in/PoK-and-Arunachal-as-disputed-territories/articleshow/52129850.cms
>>
>>
>> A part from the news 
>>
>> "To add to this, the Geospatial Information Regulation Bill would 
>> soon be brought to tables, and any person or institution acquiring and 
>> disseminating any geospatial imagery or data of any part of India 
>> through 
>> space or aerial platforms will be required to first seek permission and 
>> license from a government authority." 
>>
>> A so  a large part of what we are doing here will become Illegal
>>
>>
>> Rgards 
>> Dilip Damle
>>
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Re: [datameet] Re: What do you people think about the new proposed Bill about Maps and Geospatial data

[Vaishnavi Jayakumar]

Thejesh,

I think DocumentCloud is fantastic.

Have enviously seen it used with great effect to annotate the disability
bill.

If we have access to all its features we can build a solid case. While at
the same time allowing free speech type commenting that no one can crib
about.

Hackpad for non tech / programming types sounds a little intimidating,
starting with its name!
On May 6, 2016 10:26 AM, "Thejesh GN"  wrote:

> @all
> 1. I have the document to document cloud, so its easy to comment, embed etc
>
> https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2824467-Request-for-comments-suggestions-on-draft-The.html
>
> 2. should we have a hackpad ? for listing startups and orgs?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Thej
> --
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>
> On 6 May 2016 at 10:12, Nisha Thompson  wrote:
>
>> @Praachi
>> Can you give the policy a once over and provide a legal summary of its
>> implications?
>>
>> I'll try to find out if anyone was in the consultation.
>>
>> Nisha
>>
>> On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 10:09 AM, Nisha Thompson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> We can't just respond. We need to build a coalition of partners and
>>> businesses who are opposed.
>>>
>>> We need to also write opeds and editorials on why this is a bad policy
>>> for India and for economic growth.
>>>
>>> Can we get a list together of businesses and organizations that use GIS
>>> and build awareness on why this is a bad policy?
>>>
>>> I think a small working group is important, let's organize this on here.
>>>
>>> Nisha
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 9:41 AM, Praachi Misra 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Was anybody part of the consultation for this Bill? Any communication
 with NIC regarding this?


 On Thursday, May 5, 2016 at 11:06:40 PM UTC+5:30, Dilip Damle wrote:
>
> HI,
>
> I was shocked to see this news today.
>
>
> http://www.businessinsider.in/PoK-and-Arunachal-as-disputed-territories/articleshow/52129850.cms
>
>
> A part from the news
>
> "To add to this, the Geospatial Information Regulation Bill would
> soon be brought to tables, and any person or institution acquiring and
> disseminating any geospatial imagery or data of any part of India through
> space or aerial platforms will be required to first seek permission and
> license from a government authority."
>
> A so  a large part of what we are doing here will become Illegal
>
>
> Rgards
> Dilip Damle
>
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Re: [datameet] Re: What do you people think about the new proposed Bill about Maps and Geospatial data

[Praachi Misra]

The law as it reads currently, is kafkaesque,. there are 4 different bodies 
being created, and nobody actually trying to subvert national security will 
contemplate seeking a licence. A map that can actually be utilised (not 
scanned copy of pdf) should solve the problem of boundaries.

We can only wonder. why?

Praachi




On Friday, May 6, 2016 at 11:26:02 AM UTC+5:30, Devdatta Tengshe wrote:
>
> @Srinivas: This bill isn't applicable to Government organizations.
>
> It will be a strange thing though. It will be legal for ISRO/Bhuvan to 
> offer this data for download, but not legal for you and me to collect it 
> without a permit.
>
> I actually understand their intent behind this bill. They want to control 
> organizations like Google, Digital Globe, & mapbox; But the current form of 
> the bill is just atrocious. 
>
> Regards,
> Devdatta
>
> On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 11:21 AM, srinivas kodali  > wrote:
>
>> @Devdatta: that essentially means we can't use ISRO's data & they may 
>> have to stop publishing data too?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Srinivas Kodali
>> www.lostprogrammer.com
>> On 06-May-2016 10:33 AM, "Sajjad Anwar"  
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I opened the hackpad: 
>>> https://datameet.hackpad.com/Geospatial-Bill-2016-zJwgcQaIvBq
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 10:32 AM, H. S. Sudhira >> > wrote:
>>>
 Agree that there can be a consolidated response to this. 

 There is also some discussion going on Talk-in (OpenStreetMap India 
 mailing list) on this thread. It would be good to join forces with folks 
 on 
 that list too. 

 Sudhira.

 On 6 May 2016 at 10:26, Thejesh GN  
 wrote:

> @all
> 1. I have the document to document cloud, so its easy to comment, 
> embed etc
>
> https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2824467-Request-for-comments-suggestions-on-draft-The.html
>
> 2. should we have a hackpad ? for listing startups and orgs?
>
>
>
>
>
>  
>
> Thej
> --
> Thejesh GN *⏚* ತೇಜೇಶ್ ಜಿ.ಎನ್
> http://thejeshgn.com
> GPG ID :  0xBFFC8DD3C06DD6B0
>
> On 6 May 2016 at 10:12, Nisha Thompson  > wrote:
>
>> @Praachi
>> Can you give the policy a once over and provide a legal summary of 
>> its implications?
>>
>> I'll try to find out if anyone was in the consultation.
>>
>> Nisha
>>
>> On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 10:09 AM, Nisha Thompson > > wrote:
>>
>>> We can't just respond. We need to build a coalition of partners and 
>>> businesses who are opposed. 
>>>
>>> We need to also write opeds and editorials on why this is a bad 
>>> policy for India and for economic growth.
>>>
>>> Can we get a list together of businesses and organizations that use 
>>> GIS and build awareness on why this is a bad policy?
>>>
>>> I think a small working group is important, let's organize this on 
>>> here.
>>>
>>> Nisha
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 9:41 AM, Praachi Misra >> > wrote:
>>>
 Was anybody part of the consultation for this Bill? Any 
 communication with NIC regarding this?


 On Thursday, May 5, 2016 at 11:06:40 PM UTC+5:30, Dilip Damle wrote:
>
> HI, 
>
> I was shocked to see this news today. 
>
>
> http://www.businessinsider.in/PoK-and-Arunachal-as-disputed-territories/articleshow/52129850.cms
>
>
> A part from the news 
>
> "To add to this, the Geospatial Information Regulation Bill would 
> soon be brought to tables, and any person or institution acquiring 
> and 
> disseminating any geospatial imagery or data of any part of India 
> through 
> space or aerial platforms will be required to first seek permission 
> and 
> license from a government authority." 
>
> A so  a large part of what we are doing here will become Illegal
>
>
> Rgards 
> Dilip Damle
>
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Re: [datameet] Re: What do you people think about the new proposed Bill about Maps and Geospatial data

[Nisha Thompson]

Let's all try to make a few main points and then start writing blogposts
and opeds and push the conversation out to the public.

Anyone is free to blog on datameet and we can set up a medium channel as
well.

Nisha

On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 11:43 AM, Dilip Damle  wrote:

> HI,
>
> I have been behaving like  pack rat for the last 15-20 years. Almost Any
> geospatial Data that is out there has been downloaded and stored on my dvds
> and hard disks.
> By this law if someone can enter my house (legally) and do a search and
> take a legal action. I deserve to be in jail may be for the rest of my
> life.
>
> On Friday, May 6, 2016 at 11:28:14 AM UTC+5:30, Devdatta Tengshe wrote:
>>
>> @Johnson
>>
>> The boundry issue is just the 6th point.
>>
>> As a GIS practitioner, I'm more concerned with the earlier 5 points,
>> which prevent me from storing, analysing and disseminating any kind of GIS
>> Data, and its outputs.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Devdatta
>>
>> On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 11:25 AM, Johnson Chetty 
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I hope there will be some further deliberation and review over this bill.
>>>
>>> The core issue pertains primarily to the disputed border regions and not
>>> of India as a whole.
>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>>>
>>
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Re: [datameet] Re: What do you people think about the new proposed Bill about Maps and Geospatial data

[Devdatta Tengshe]

@Johnson

The boundry issue is just the 6th point.

As a GIS practitioner, I'm more concerned with the earlier 5 points, which
prevent me from storing, analysing and disseminating any kind of GIS Data,
and its outputs.

Regards,
Devdatta

On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 11:25 AM, Johnson Chetty 
wrote:

>
> I hope there will be some further deliberation and review over this bill.
> The core issue pertains primarily to the disputed border regions and not
> of India as a whole.
> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
>

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Re: [datameet] Re: What do you people think about the new proposed Bill about Maps and Geospatial data

[Devdatta Tengshe]

@Srinivas: This bill isn't applicable to Government organizations.

It will be a strange thing though. It will be legal for ISRO/Bhuvan to
offer this data for download, but not legal for you and me to collect it
without a permit.

I actually understand their intent behind this bill. They want to control
organizations like Google, Digital Globe, & mapbox; But the current form of
the bill is just atrocious.

Regards,
Devdatta

On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 11:21 AM, srinivas kodali 
wrote:

> @Devdatta: that essentially means we can't use ISRO's data & they may have
> to stop publishing data too?
>
> Regards,
> Srinivas Kodali
> www.lostprogrammer.com
> On 06-May-2016 10:33 AM, "Sajjad Anwar"  wrote:
>
>> I opened the hackpad:
>> https://datameet.hackpad.com/Geospatial-Bill-2016-zJwgcQaIvBq
>>
>> On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 10:32 AM, H. S. Sudhira 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Agree that there can be a consolidated response to this.
>>>
>>> There is also some discussion going on Talk-in (OpenStreetMap India
>>> mailing list) on this thread. It would be good to join forces with folks on
>>> that list too.
>>>
>>> Sudhira.
>>>
>>> On 6 May 2016 at 10:26, Thejesh GN  wrote:
>>>
 @all
 1. I have the document to document cloud, so its easy to comment, embed
 etc

 https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2824467-Request-for-comments-suggestions-on-draft-The.html

 2. should we have a hackpad ? for listing startups and orgs?







 Thej
 --
 Thejesh GN *⏚* ತೇಜೇಶ್ ಜಿ.ಎನ್
 http://thejeshgn.com
 GPG ID :  0xBFFC8DD3C06DD6B0

 On 6 May 2016 at 10:12, Nisha Thompson  wrote:

> @Praachi
> Can you give the policy a once over and provide a legal summary of its
> implications?
>
> I'll try to find out if anyone was in the consultation.
>
> Nisha
>
> On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 10:09 AM, Nisha Thompson 
> wrote:
>
>> We can't just respond. We need to build a coalition of partners and
>> businesses who are opposed.
>>
>> We need to also write opeds and editorials on why this is a bad
>> policy for India and for economic growth.
>>
>> Can we get a list together of businesses and organizations that use
>> GIS and build awareness on why this is a bad policy?
>>
>> I think a small working group is important, let's organize this on
>> here.
>>
>> Nisha
>>
>> On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 9:41 AM, Praachi Misra <
>> misra.praa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Was anybody part of the consultation for this Bill? Any
>>> communication with NIC regarding this?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, May 5, 2016 at 11:06:40 PM UTC+5:30, Dilip Damle wrote:

 HI,

 I was shocked to see this news today.


 http://www.businessinsider.in/PoK-and-Arunachal-as-disputed-territories/articleshow/52129850.cms


 A part from the news

 "To add to this, the Geospatial Information Regulation Bill would
 soon be brought to tables, and any person or institution acquiring and
 disseminating any geospatial imagery or data of any part of India 
 through
 space or aerial platforms will be required to first seek permission and
 license from a government authority."

 A so  a large part of what we are doing here will become Illegal


 Rgards
 Dilip Damle

 --
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>>
>>
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>> DataMeet.org
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>> mobile: 962-061-2245
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Re: [datameet] Re: What do you people think about the new proposed Bill about Maps and Geospatial data

[Johnson Chetty]

I hope there will be some further deliberation and review over this bill.
The core issue pertains primarily to the disputed border regions and not of
India as a whole.


On 6 May 2016 at 11:21, srinivas kodali  wrote:

> @Devdatta: that essentially means we can't use ISRO's data & they may have
> to stop publishing data too?
>
> Regards,
> Srinivas Kodali
> www.lostprogrammer.com
> On 06-May-2016 10:33 AM, "Sajjad Anwar"  wrote:
>
>> I opened the hackpad:
>> https://datameet.hackpad.com/Geospatial-Bill-2016-zJwgcQaIvBq
>>
>> On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 10:32 AM, H. S. Sudhira 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Agree that there can be a consolidated response to this.
>>>
>>> There is also some discussion going on Talk-in (OpenStreetMap India
>>> mailing list) on this thread. It would be good to join forces with folks on
>>> that list too.
>>>
>>> Sudhira.
>>>
>>> On 6 May 2016 at 10:26, Thejesh GN  wrote:
>>>
 @all
 1. I have the document to document cloud, so its easy to comment, embed
 etc

 https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2824467-Request-for-comments-suggestions-on-draft-The.html

 2. should we have a hackpad ? for listing startups and orgs?







 Thej
 --
 Thejesh GN *⏚* ತೇಜೇಶ್ ಜಿ.ಎನ್
 http://thejeshgn.com
 GPG ID :  0xBFFC8DD3C06DD6B0

 On 6 May 2016 at 10:12, Nisha Thompson  wrote:

> @Praachi
> Can you give the policy a once over and provide a legal summary of its
> implications?
>
> I'll try to find out if anyone was in the consultation.
>
> Nisha
>
> On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 10:09 AM, Nisha Thompson 
> wrote:
>
>> We can't just respond. We need to build a coalition of partners and
>> businesses who are opposed.
>>
>> We need to also write opeds and editorials on why this is a bad
>> policy for India and for economic growth.
>>
>> Can we get a list together of businesses and organizations that use
>> GIS and build awareness on why this is a bad policy?
>>
>> I think a small working group is important, let's organize this on
>> here.
>>
>> Nisha
>>
>> On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 9:41 AM, Praachi Misra <
>> misra.praa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Was anybody part of the consultation for this Bill? Any
>>> communication with NIC regarding this?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, May 5, 2016 at 11:06:40 PM UTC+5:30, Dilip Damle wrote:

 HI,

 I was shocked to see this news today.


 http://www.businessinsider.in/PoK-and-Arunachal-as-disputed-territories/articleshow/52129850.cms


 A part from the news

 "To add to this, the Geospatial Information Regulation Bill would
 soon be brought to tables, and any person or institution acquiring and
 disseminating any geospatial imagery or data of any part of India 
 through
 space or aerial platforms will be required to first seek permission and
 license from a government authority."

 A so  a large part of what we are doing here will become Illegal


 Rgards
 Dilip Damle

 --
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>>
>>
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>>
>>
>
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Re: [datameet] Re: What do you people think about the new proposed Bill about Maps and Geospatial data

[srinivas kodali]

@Devdatta: that essentially means we can't use ISRO's data & they may have
to stop publishing data too?

Regards,
Srinivas Kodali
www.lostprogrammer.com
On 06-May-2016 10:33 AM, "Sajjad Anwar"  wrote:

> I opened the hackpad:
> https://datameet.hackpad.com/Geospatial-Bill-2016-zJwgcQaIvBq
>
> On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 10:32 AM, H. S. Sudhira 
> wrote:
>
>> Agree that there can be a consolidated response to this.
>>
>> There is also some discussion going on Talk-in (OpenStreetMap India
>> mailing list) on this thread. It would be good to join forces with folks on
>> that list too.
>>
>> Sudhira.
>>
>> On 6 May 2016 at 10:26, Thejesh GN  wrote:
>>
>>> @all
>>> 1. I have the document to document cloud, so its easy to comment, embed
>>> etc
>>>
>>> https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2824467-Request-for-comments-suggestions-on-draft-The.html
>>>
>>> 2. should we have a hackpad ? for listing startups and orgs?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thej
>>> --
>>> Thejesh GN *⏚* ತೇಜೇಶ್ ಜಿ.ಎನ್
>>> http://thejeshgn.com
>>> GPG ID :  0xBFFC8DD3C06DD6B0
>>>
>>> On 6 May 2016 at 10:12, Nisha Thompson  wrote:
>>>
 @Praachi
 Can you give the policy a once over and provide a legal summary of its
 implications?

 I'll try to find out if anyone was in the consultation.

 Nisha

 On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 10:09 AM, Nisha Thompson 
 wrote:

> We can't just respond. We need to build a coalition of partners and
> businesses who are opposed.
>
> We need to also write opeds and editorials on why this is a bad policy
> for India and for economic growth.
>
> Can we get a list together of businesses and organizations that use
> GIS and build awareness on why this is a bad policy?
>
> I think a small working group is important, let's organize this on
> here.
>
> Nisha
>
> On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 9:41 AM, Praachi Misra  > wrote:
>
>> Was anybody part of the consultation for this Bill? Any communication
>> with NIC regarding this?
>>
>>
>> On Thursday, May 5, 2016 at 11:06:40 PM UTC+5:30, Dilip Damle wrote:
>>>
>>> HI,
>>>
>>> I was shocked to see this news today.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.businessinsider.in/PoK-and-Arunachal-as-disputed-territories/articleshow/52129850.cms
>>>
>>>
>>> A part from the news
>>>
>>> "To add to this, the Geospatial Information Regulation Bill would
>>> soon be brought to tables, and any person or institution acquiring and
>>> disseminating any geospatial imagery or data of any part of India 
>>> through
>>> space or aerial platforms will be required to first seek permission and
>>> license from a government authority."
>>>
>>> A so  a large part of what we are doing here will become Illegal
>>>
>>>
>>> Rgards
>>> Dilip Damle
>>>
>>> --
>> Datameet is a community of Data Science enthusiasts in India. Know
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Re: [datameet] Re: What do you people think about the new proposed Bill about Maps and Geospatial data

[H. S. Sudhira]

Agree that there can be a consolidated response to this.

There is also some discussion going on Talk-in (OpenStreetMap India mailing
list) on this thread. It would be good to join forces with folks on that
list too.

Sudhira.

On 6 May 2016 at 10:26, Thejesh GN  wrote:

> @all
> 1. I have the document to document cloud, so its easy to comment, embed etc
>
> https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2824467-Request-for-comments-suggestions-on-draft-The.html
>
> 2. should we have a hackpad ? for listing startups and orgs?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Thej
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> On 6 May 2016 at 10:12, Nisha Thompson  wrote:
>
>> @Praachi
>> Can you give the policy a once over and provide a legal summary of its
>> implications?
>>
>> I'll try to find out if anyone was in the consultation.
>>
>> Nisha
>>
>> On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 10:09 AM, Nisha Thompson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> We can't just respond. We need to build a coalition of partners and
>>> businesses who are opposed.
>>>
>>> We need to also write opeds and editorials on why this is a bad policy
>>> for India and for economic growth.
>>>
>>> Can we get a list together of businesses and organizations that use GIS
>>> and build awareness on why this is a bad policy?
>>>
>>> I think a small working group is important, let's organize this on here.
>>>
>>> Nisha
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 9:41 AM, Praachi Misra 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Was anybody part of the consultation for this Bill? Any communication
 with NIC regarding this?


 On Thursday, May 5, 2016 at 11:06:40 PM UTC+5:30, Dilip Damle wrote:
>
> HI,
>
> I was shocked to see this news today.
>
>
> http://www.businessinsider.in/PoK-and-Arunachal-as-disputed-territories/articleshow/52129850.cms
>
>
> A part from the news
>
> "To add to this, the Geospatial Information Regulation Bill would
> soon be brought to tables, and any person or institution acquiring and
> disseminating any geospatial imagery or data of any part of India through
> space or aerial platforms will be required to first seek permission and
> license from a government authority."
>
> A so  a large part of what we are doing here will become Illegal
>
>
> Rgards
> Dilip Damle
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Re: [datameet] Re: What do you people think about the new proposed Bill about Maps and Geospatial data

[Thejesh GN]

@all
1. I have the document to document cloud, so its easy to comment, embed etc
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2824467-Request-for-comments-suggestions-on-draft-The.html

2. should we have a hackpad ? for listing startups and orgs?







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On 6 May 2016 at 10:12, Nisha Thompson  wrote:

> @Praachi
> Can you give the policy a once over and provide a legal summary of its
> implications?
>
> I'll try to find out if anyone was in the consultation.
>
> Nisha
>
> On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 10:09 AM, Nisha Thompson 
> wrote:
>
>> We can't just respond. We need to build a coalition of partners and
>> businesses who are opposed.
>>
>> We need to also write opeds and editorials on why this is a bad policy
>> for India and for economic growth.
>>
>> Can we get a list together of businesses and organizations that use GIS
>> and build awareness on why this is a bad policy?
>>
>> I think a small working group is important, let's organize this on here.
>>
>> Nisha
>>
>> On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 9:41 AM, Praachi Misra 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Was anybody part of the consultation for this Bill? Any communication
>>> with NIC regarding this?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thursday, May 5, 2016 at 11:06:40 PM UTC+5:30, Dilip Damle wrote:

 HI,

 I was shocked to see this news today.


 http://www.businessinsider.in/PoK-and-Arunachal-as-disputed-territories/articleshow/52129850.cms


 A part from the news

 "To add to this, the Geospatial Information Regulation Bill would soon
 be brought to tables, and any person or institution acquiring and
 disseminating any geospatial imagery or data of any part of India through
 space or aerial platforms will be required to first seek permission and
 license from a government authority."

 A so  a large part of what we are doing here will become Illegal


 Rgards
 Dilip Damle

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Re: [datameet] Re: What do you people think about the new proposed Bill about Maps and Geospatial data

[Nisha Thompson]

We can't just respond. We need to build a coalition of partners and
businesses who are opposed.

We need to also write opeds and editorials on why this is a bad policy for
India and for economic growth.

Can we get a list together of businesses and organizations that use GIS and
build awareness on why this is a bad policy?

I think a small working group is important, let's organize this on here.

Nisha

On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 9:41 AM, Praachi Misra 
wrote:

> Was anybody part of the consultation for this Bill? Any communication with
> NIC regarding this?
>
>
> On Thursday, May 5, 2016 at 11:06:40 PM UTC+5:30, Dilip Damle wrote:
>>
>> HI,
>>
>> I was shocked to see this news today.
>>
>>
>> http://www.businessinsider.in/PoK-and-Arunachal-as-disputed-territories/articleshow/52129850.cms
>>
>>
>> A part from the news
>>
>> "To add to this, the Geospatial Information Regulation Bill would soon
>> be brought to tables, and any person or institution acquiring and
>> disseminating any geospatial imagery or data of any part of India through
>> space or aerial platforms will be required to first seek permission and
>> license from a government authority."
>>
>> A so  a large part of what we are doing here will become Illegal
>>
>>
>> Rgards
>> Dilip Damle
>>
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