Re: [db-wg] Getting fraudulent entries removed

2018-04-05 Thread Brian Rak via db-wg

On 4/5/2018 2:27 PM, Nick Hilliard via db-wg wrote:

Randy Bush via db-wg wrote:

and we are supposed to use the high quality ripe irr as authoritative
data for routing validation?

the current plan is to re-mark all out-of-region route / route6 / autnum
objects with source: RIPE-NONAUTH and to disable creation of these
objects in future.  Unless something has been missed, this should be an
improvement over the current situation?

Nick


Is there going to be a cleanup process for existing entries?

For example:

https://apps.db.ripe.net/db-web-ui/#/query?bflag&inverse=mnt-by&searchtext=ADMASTER-MNT&source=RIPE&types=route

route:   104.143.112.0/20
Not currently advertised, belongs to a managed services provider in the US:
https://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-104-143-112-0-1/pft?s=104.143.112.0

route:   141.193.96.0/19
Not currently advertised.  ARIN claims this belongs to RIPE:
https://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-141-0-0-0-0
RIPE claims this belongs to... someone else?
https://apps.db.ripe.net/db-web-ui/#/query?searchtext=141.193.96.0

route:   192.73.128.0/18
Currently advertised by 30237
ARIN says this belongs to the US Air Force
https://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-192-73-82-0-1

It largely looks like all of these route objects created by ADMASTER-MNT 
are (or have been) used for hijacking mostly unused ARIN space.




Re: [db-wg] Getting fraudulent entries removed

2018-04-05 Thread Randy Bush via db-wg
>> and we are supposed to use the high quality ripe irr as authoritative
>> data for routing validation?
> 
> the current plan is to re-mark all out-of-region route / route6 /
> autnum objects with source: RIPE-NONAUTH and to disable creation of
> these objects in future.  Unless something has been missed, this
> should be an improvement over the current situation?

peval() does not look at source:.  and thanks, don't tell a whole lot of
folk to change software.

and you know that the point of my snark is that there are more
authoritative data available.

randy



Re: [db-wg] Getting fraudulent entries removed

2018-04-05 Thread Nick Hilliard via db-wg
Randy Bush via db-wg wrote:
> and we are supposed to use the high quality ripe irr as authoritative
> data for routing validation?

the current plan is to re-mark all out-of-region route / route6 / autnum
objects with source: RIPE-NONAUTH and to disable creation of these
objects in future.  Unless something has been missed, this should be an
improvement over the current situation?

Nick



Re: [db-wg] Getting fraudulent entries removed

2018-04-05 Thread Randy Bush via db-wg
> We're back to this again...  more of our space is being hijacked using
> a RIPE IRR entry:
> 
> route:  108.160.128.0/20
> descr:  2nd route
> origin: AS19529
> mnt-by: ADMASTER-MNT
> created:    2017-11-15T17:41:46Z
> last-modified:  2017-11-15T17:41:46Z
> source: RIPE
> 
> Same ASN.
> 
> Can RIPE purge all the IRR entries created by this maintainer? They
> don't appear to be legitimate.

and we are supposed to use the high quality ripe irr as authoritative
data for routing validation?



Re: [db-wg] Getting fraudulent entries removed

2018-04-05 Thread Brian Rak via db-wg
We're back to this again...  more of our space is being hijacked using a 
RIPE IRR entry:


route:  108.160.128.0/20
descr:  2nd route
origin: AS19529
mnt-by: ADMASTER-MNT
created:    2017-11-15T17:41:46Z
last-modified:  2017-11-15T17:41:46Z
source: RIPE

Same ASN.

Can RIPE purge all the IRR entries created by this maintainer? They 
don't appear to be legitimate.



On 11/9/2017 2:13 PM, Nick Hilliard via db-wg wrote:

denis walker via db-wg wrote:

Perhaps after the RIPE NCC implements the agreed actions on foreign
ROUTE objects, it would be a good idea to do a (one time?)
cleanup/review of all foreign ROUTE objects in the RIPE IRR. Find the
contact details in the appropriate RIR Database for all non RIPE address
space covered by these ROUTE objects. Send them a notification with a
link to click if they approve of the ROUTE object. If no response is
received within a defined time period, delete the ROUTE object.

a cleanup would be a good idea, but this is probably too aggressive an
approach.  I'd prefer to see multiple contact attempts with the objects
eventually modified to make a note that they are flagged for deletion,
before they are actually deleted.

Some categories of entries can probably be deleted immediately, e.g.
route(6) objects which are associated with ASNs which are unregistered
or from the private ranges.

There are a couple of special case ASNs, e.g. AS112.

Nick