Re: db or file access?

2005-04-11 Thread Ing. Branislav Gerzo
Ron Savage [RS], on Sunday, April 10, 2005 at 10:23 (+1000) made these
points:

RS IMHO data goes in databases and files go in directories.
RS Raving about speed is simply premature optimization, and hence is a design 
fault.

ok, thanks, will store that into files, I will know in future. Is
there any web page about storing images in db vs. files ?

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Re: db or file access?

2005-04-11 Thread Peter J. Holzer
On 2005-04-10 10:23:38 +1000, Ron Savage wrote:
 IMHO data goes in databases and files go in directories.

Isn't that a bit a circular definition? If you store an image in a file,
it's a file and goes in a directory. If you store it in a database, it's
data.


 Raving about speed is simply premature optimization, and hence is a design 
 fault.

I agree with that completely. 

Some considerations when deciding whether to store a piece of data in a
relational DB or in the filesystem:

Consistency: Do you need to ensure consistency between this data and
other data? If you store data in files, then somebody can remove or
alter the files without updating the meta-data in the database.

Centralized access: If everything is in the database, you can either
access all the data or none of it. If you have some data outside of the
database, you may not have access to this data.

Decentralized access: Sometimes it is useful to be able to access the
data without the database (e.g., you may want to access individual
documents via the file system.

And finally, performance:

RDBMs are generally optimized for lots of small data items which are
organized into tables. Filesystems are generally optimized for larger
data items organized into trees. There is considerable overlap where
neither has a clear advantage, and of course it varies depending on what
RDBMS and filesystem you use.

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Installing and trying DBD::Sybase 1.05

2005-04-11 Thread Miguel Covas O'Ryan
I've just downloaded DBD::Sybase 1.05 on my personal platform Mac OS X  
10.3.8. I usually
end up installing tested versions on HP-UX 11.x machines.

I've been using DBD:.Sybase 1.04 plus DBI-1.48 with no problems (except  
those created
by myself) on OS X.

I've been able to generate the module, but the testing fails:
$ make test
PERL_DL_NONLAZY=1 /usr/bin/perl -MExtUtils::Command::MM -e  
test_harness(0, 'blib/lib', 'blib/arch') t/*.t
t/autocommitok 1/5dyld: /usr/bin/perl Undefined symbols:
blib/arch/auto/DBD/Sybase/Sybase.bundle undefined reference to  
_CFBundleCopyBundleURL expected to be defined in a dynamic image
blib/arch/auto/DBD/Sybase/Sybase.bundle undefined reference to  
_CFBundleGetBundleWithIdentifier expected to be defined in a dynamic  
image
blib/arch/auto/DBD/Sybase/Sybase.bundle undefined reference to  
_CFRelease expected to be defined in a dynamic image
blib/arch/auto/DBD/Sybase/Sybase.bundle undefined reference to  
_CFStringCreateWithFormat expected to be defined in a dynamic image
blib/arch/auto/DBD/Sybase/Sybase.bundle undefined reference to  
_CFStringGetCString expected to be defined in a dynamic image
blib/arch/auto/DBD/Sybase/Sybase.bundle undefined reference to  
_CFURLCopyFileSystemPath expected to be defined in a dynamic image
blib/arch/auto/DBD/Sybase/Sybase.bundle undefined reference to  
___CFConstantStringClassReference expected to be defined in a dynamic  
image
blib/arch/auto/DBD/Sybase/Sybase.bundle undefined refa dynamic image
blib/arch/auto/DBD/Sybase/Sybase.bundle undefined reference to  
_com_st_ver expected to be defined in a dynamic image
blib/arch/auto/DBD/Sybase/Sybase.bundle undefined reference to _cs_calc  
expected to be defined in a dynamic image
blib/arch/auto/DBD/Sybase/Sybase.bundle undefined reference to  
_cs_conv_mult expected to be defined in a dynamic image
blib/arch/auto/DBD/Sybase/Sybase.bundle undefined reference to  
_ct_cmd_props expected to be defined in a dynamic image
blib/arch/auto/DBD/Sybase/Sybase.bundle undefined reference to _ct_poll  
expected to be defined in a dynamic image
blib/arch/auto/DBD/Sybase/Sybase.bundle undefined reference to  
_ct_sendpassthru expected to be defined in a dynamic image
blib/arch/auto/DBD/Sybase/Sybase.bundle undefined reference to  
_ct_wakeup expected to be defined in a dynamic image
t/autocommitdubious
Test returned status 0 (wstat 5, 0x5)
DIED. FAILED tests 2-5
Failed 4/5 tests, 20.00% okay

most of the test repeat the same pattern and in the end:
Failed TestStat Wstat Total Fail  Failed  List of Failed
 
---
t/autocommit.t0 5 58 160.00%  2-5
t/base.t  0 5??   ??   %  ??
t/exec.t  0 517   32 188.24%  2-17
t/fail.t  0 512   22 183.33%  2-12
t/login.t 0 5 46 150.00%  2-4
t/main.t  0 529   56 193.10%  2-29
t/multi_sth.t 0 543   84 195.35%  2-43
t/nsql.t  0 5 7   12 171.43%  2-7
t/place.t 0 513   24 184.62%  2-13
t/thread.t0 5??   ??   %  ??
t/xblk.t  0 562  122 196.77%  2-62
t/xblob.t 0 511   20 181.82%  2-11
Failed 12/12 test scripts, 0.00% okay. 193/203 subtests failed, 4.93%  
okay.
make: *** [test_dynamic] Error 2

In the meantime, DBD::Sybase 1.04 is still working ...
Any idea?


Miguel Covas O'Ryan
Director de Sistemas de Información
Bancoval, S.A.
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Re: db or file access?

2005-04-11 Thread Ing. Branislav Gerzo
Peter J. Holzer [PJH], on Monday, April 11, 2005 at 09:56 (+0200)
wrote:

PJH Consistency: Do you need to ensure consistency between this data and
PJH other data? If you store data in files, then somebody can remove or
PJH alter the files without updating the meta-data in the database.

yes, I agree with your post completely too. In my case all files will
be local, and from my point of view it is better store images in
database.

PJH Centralized access: If everything is in the database, you can either
PJH access all the data or none of it. If you have some data outside of the
PJH database, you may not have access to this data.

Agree. I want access all the data, or none. I think safer is
storing them in db, you can't delete it by fault (remove files).

PJH Decentralized access: Sometimes it is useful to be able to access the
PJH data without the database (e.g., you may want to access individual
PJH documents via the file system.

This is not my case.

PJH And finally, performance:

PJH RDBMs are generally optimized for lots of small data items which are
PJH organized into tables. Filesystems are generally optimized for larger
PJH data items organized into trees. There is considerable overlap where
PJH neither has a clear advantage, and of course it varies depending on what
PJH RDBMS and filesystem you use.

hm, in my case I will store 3kb images and I think they will be many
files (50.000+). I use freebsd/mysql.

-- 

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[IBM: INTEL's Big Mouth]




Re: t/05threadclone.t fails

2005-04-11 Thread Tim Bunce
On Sun, Apr 10, 2005 at 06:13:26PM -0400, Philip M. Gollucci wrote:
 Tim Bunce wrote:
  If you, or someone, has something like valgrind handy (or any other
  tool that would help with malloc/threads debugging) that would be a
  big help.

 Same thing with 5.8.0, 5.8.6  both with ithreads

I'm running perl -Mblib t/05thrclone.t in a loop using v5.8.6 built
for i386-freebsd-thread-multi and I've had no failures yet.

 Here's the valgrind -v output... I didn't do --trace-pthreads=all ... 
 (way too much output)
 
 I also lowered the $threads = 10 to $threads = 2 in the test script.
 I'd say it happens  70% of the time for me.

Thanks.

 ==92812==/home/pgollucci/dev/inst/perl/5.9.3-i/bin/perl

So this valgrind run was with a bleadperl that not released yet.
Very blead :)

 ok 6 - ... the Driver has one Kid
 ==92812== Conditional jump or move depends on uninitialised value(s)
 ==92812==at 0x3C10F615: Perl_sv_dup (sv.c:10747)
 ==92812==by 0x3C3FF1D8: Perl_ithread_join (threads.xs:634)
 ==92812==by 0x3C3FFCAE: XS_threads_join (threads.xs:728)
 ==92812==by 0x3C0F593B: Perl_pp_entersub (pp_hot.c:2816)
 ==92812== 
 ==92812== Conditional jump or move depends on uninitialised value(s)
 ==92812==at 0x3C10F615: Perl_sv_dup (sv.c:10747)
 ==92812==by 0x3C110907: Perl_sv_dup (sv.c:10958)
 ==92812==by 0x3C3FF1D8: Perl_ithread_join (threads.xs:634)
 ==92812==by 0x3C3FFCAE: XS_threads_join (threads.xs:728)

Sure looks like a perl problem. What's on  around sv.c:10747?
Is the same line of code implicated with perl 5.8.6? (possibly moved
slightly, of course.)

Tim.


Re: db or file access?

2005-04-11 Thread Ron Savage
 On Mon, 11 Apr 2005 08:58:20 +0200, Ing. Branislav Gerzo wrote:

Hi

 ok, thanks, will store that into files, I will know in future. Is
 there any web page about storing images in db vs. files ?

I don't know of any particular articles discussing this, but I've seen the
issues raised a number of times over the years.

I'm sure you can search the web and find people who support both sides of the
argument!

Also, I'm glad you did not take my comments as criticism of yourself. I did not
use the word 'you' which would have implied you personally were raving.

I was trying to indicate that people who put efficiency/logic/speed ahead of
good design are raving.

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Cheers
Ron Savage, [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 11/04/2005
http://savage.net.au/index.html
Let the record show: Microsoft is not an Australian company




Re: db or file access?

2005-04-11 Thread Ron Savage
 On Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:56:21 +0200, Peter J. Holzer wrote:

Hi Peter

 On 2005-04-10 10:23:38 +1000, Ron Savage wrote:
 IMHO data goes in databases and files go in directories.

 Isn't that a bit a circular definition? If you store an image in a
 file, it's a file and goes in a directory. If you store it in a
 database, it's data.

Well, I guess I'm saying that I see images as standalone objects and hence
suitable for storing in files, and would always choose to store them in files.

I'm sure someone somewhere will store them in databases.
--
Cheers
Ron Savage, [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 11/04/2005
http://savage.net.au/index.html
Let the record show: Microsoft is not an Australian company




Errors while inserting into long data type

2005-04-11 Thread Mallik
Hi Friends,

I am using oracle database and I have column of long data type. I insert the
data into this column thru perl script. If the inserted data exceeds 4000
chars, it is giving me the following error.

DBD::Oracle::st execute failed: ORA-01704: string literal too long (DBD
ERROR: OCIStmtExecute) at MT/TACDbManager.pm line 445.

Whereas we can insert upto 2GB of data in long data type.

Pl. help me out to solve this.

Thanks  Regards,
Mallik.


Re: db or file access?

2005-04-11 Thread Ing. Branislav Gerzo
Ron Savage [RS], on Monday, April 11, 2005 at 21:06 (+1000)
thoughtfully wrote the following:

RS Also, I'm glad you did not take my comments as criticism of yourself. I did 
not
RS use the word 'you' which would have implied you personally were raving.

that's ok. I'd like to know both sides of story, also no way is
perfect. Every side has own thruth, cons and pros. So that's ok.

RS I was trying to indicate that people who put
RS efficiency/logic/speed ahead of
RS good design are raving.

It is interesting to me, how can be faster storing files on disk
versus database. If I have many pictures in database overall
db performance is slower?

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Re: db or file access?

2005-04-11 Thread Chuck Fox
Sample database code supplied with Sybase stores pics :p

 
 I'm sure someone somewhere will store them in databases. 
 -- 

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Chuck 


Re: t/05threadclone.t fails

2005-04-11 Thread Philip M. Gollucci
I'm running perl -Mblib t/05thrclone.t in a loop using v5.8.6 built
for i386-freebsd-thread-multi and I've had no failures yet.
* Whats the uname -a you've got ?
* Did you link against libc_r or libpthread.
I'll retest this tonightish.
Thanks!



RE: Errors while inserting into long data type

2005-04-11 Thread Ronald J Kimball

Mallik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Hi Friends,
 
 I am using oracle database and I have column of long data type. I insert
 the
 data into this column thru perl script. If the inserted data exceeds 4000
 chars, it is giving me the following error.
 
 DBD::Oracle::st execute failed: ORA-01704: string literal too long (DBD
 ERROR: OCIStmtExecute) at MT/TACDbManager.pm line 445.
 
 Whereas we can insert upto 2GB of data in long data type.

Let's see your code.  I suspect you're not using bind_param() with an
explicit ORA_TYPE, as described in the DBD::Oracle documentation.

Ronald




install_driver(Sybase) failed: DBD::Sybase initialize:

2005-04-11 Thread Desai, Anand (HP-GDIC)
Help..
I have been struggling to get DBI to work on my server...
Here is the code..
#! /usr/bin/perl

#use strict;
BEGIN
{
$ENV{SYBASE} = /opt/sybase11.9.2;
}
use DBI;
print Here's a list of DBI drivers:\n;

my @available_drivers = DBI-available_drivers('quiet');
my $driver;

foreach $driver (@available_drivers)
{
   print $driver\n;
   }

foreach $key (sort keys(%INC)) {
   print $key = $INC{$key}\n;
   }

my $dbh =DBI-connect(dbi:Sybase:server=crisp, 'sa', '', {PrintError
= 0});


die Unablee for connect to server $DBI::errstr
unless $dbh;

my $rc;
my $sth;

$sth = $dbh-prepare(select [EMAIL PROTECTED]@servername);
if($sth-execute) {
while(@$dat = $sth-fetchrow) {
print @dat\n;
}
}
  my  $key;
and the output is 
Here's a list of DBI drivers:
DBM
ExampleP
File
Proxy
Sponge
Sybase
AutoLoader.pm = /opt/perl-uxpe/lib/5.8.0/AutoLoader.pm
Carp.pm = /opt/perl-uxpe/lib/5.8.0/Carp.pm
Config.pm = /opt/perl-uxpe/lib/5.8.0/PA-RISC1.1-thread-multi/Config.pm
Cwd.pm = /opt/perl-uxpe/lib/5.8.0/PA-RISC1.1-thread-multi/Cwd.pm
DBI.pm =
/opt/perl-uxpe/lib/site_perl/5.8.0/PA-RISC1.1-thread-multi/DBI.pm
DirHandle.pm = /opt/perl-uxpe/lib/5.8.0/DirHandle.pm
DynaLoader.pm =
/opt/perl-uxpe/lib/5.8.0/PA-RISC1.1-thread-multi/DynaLoader.pm
Exporter.pm = /opt/perl-uxpe/lib/5.8.0/Exporter.pm
Exporter/Heavy.pm = /opt/perl-uxpe/lib/5.8.0/Exporter/Heavy.pm
ExtUtils/Installed.pm = /opt/perl-uxpe/lib/5.8.0/ExtUtils/Installed.pm
ExtUtils/Liblist.pm = /opt/perl-uxpe/lib/5.8.0/ExtUtils/Liblist.pm
ExtUtils/Liblist/Kid.pm =
/opt/perl-uxpe/lib/5.8.0/ExtUtils/Liblist/Kid.pm
ExtUtils/MM.pm = /opt/perl-uxpe/lib/5.8.0/ExtUtils/MM.pm
nstall_driver(Sybase) failed: DBD::Sybase initialize: ct_init(1100)
failed at /opt/perl-uxpe/lib/5.8.0/PA-RISC1.1-thread-multi/DynaLoader.pm
line 249.
Compilation failed in require at (eval 36) line 3.

 at ./test.pl line 29
can someone please help

Anand Desai



Re: install_driver(Sybase) failed: DBD::Sybase initialize:

2005-04-11 Thread Chuck Fox

Anand,

It appears that your environment is not correctly setup. Check that you have 
sourced in the SYBASE.sh located at /opt/sybase11.9.2.  It appears that 
DBD::Sybase attempted to call ct_init in the Sybase libs and failed to find it. 
 Check the SHLIB_PATH. Use isql to connect to verify that open client is 
working properly.  Then start digging into the perl code. 


Desai, Anand (HP-GDIC) wrote on 4/11/2005, 8:58 AM:
 Help.. 
 I have been struggling to get DBI to work on my server... 
 Here is the code.. 
 #! /usr/bin/perl 
 
 #use strict; 
 BEGIN 
 { 
 $ENV{SYBASE} = /opt/sybase11.9.2; 
 } 
 use DBI; 
 print Here's a list of DBI drivers:\n; 
 
 my @available_drivers = DBI-available_drivers('quiet'); 
 my $driver; 
 
 foreach $driver (@available_drivers) 
 { 
print $driver\n; 
} 
 
 foreach $key (sort keys(%INC)) { 
print $key = $INC{$key}\n; 
} 
 
 my $dbh =DBI-connect(dbi:Sybase:server=crisp, 'sa', '', {PrintError 
 = 0}); 
 
 
 die Unablee for connect to server $DBI::errstr 
 unless $dbh; 
 
 my $rc; 
 my $sth; 
 
 $sth = $dbh-prepare(select [EMAIL PROTECTED]@servername); 
 if($sth-execute) { 
 while(@$dat = $sth-fetchrow) { 
 print @dat\n; 
 } 
 } 
   my  $key; 
 and the output is 
 Here's a list of DBI drivers: 
 DBM 
 ExampleP 
 File 
 Proxy 
 Sponge 
 Sybase 
 AutoLoader.pm = /opt/perl-uxpe/lib/5.8.0/AutoLoader.pm 
 Carp.pm = /opt/perl-uxpe/lib/5.8.0/Carp.pm 
 Config.pm = /opt/perl-uxpe/lib/5.8.0/PA-RISC1.1-thread-multi/Config.pm 
 Cwd.pm = /opt/perl-uxpe/lib/5.8.0/PA-RISC1.1-thread-multi/Cwd.pm 
 DBI.pm = 
 /opt/perl-uxpe/lib/site_perl/5.8.0/PA-RISC1.1-thread-multi/DBI.pm 
 DirHandle.pm = /opt/perl-uxpe/lib/5.8.0/DirHandle.pm 
 DynaLoader.pm = 
 /opt/perl-uxpe/lib/5.8.0/PA-RISC1.1-thread-multi/DynaLoader.pm 
 Exporter.pm = /opt/perl-uxpe/lib/5.8.0/Exporter.pm 
 Exporter/Heavy.pm = /opt/perl-uxpe/lib/5.8.0/Exporter/Heavy.pm 
 ExtUtils/Installed.pm = /opt/perl-uxpe/lib/5.8.0/ExtUtils/Installed.pm 
 ExtUtils/Liblist.pm = /opt/perl-uxpe/lib/5.8.0/ExtUtils/Liblist.pm 
 ExtUtils/Liblist/Kid.pm = 
 /opt/perl-uxpe/lib/5.8.0/ExtUtils/Liblist/Kid.pm 
 ExtUtils/MM.pm = /opt/perl-uxpe/lib/5.8.0/ExtUtils/MM.pm 
 nstall_driver(Sybase) failed: DBD::Sybase initialize: ct_init(1100) 
 failed at /opt/perl-uxpe/lib/5.8.0/PA-RISC1.1-thread-multi/DynaLoader.pm 
 line 249. 
 Compilation failed in require at (eval 36) line 3. 
 
 at ./test.pl line 29 
 can someone please help 
 
 Anand Desai 

-- 
Your Friendly Neighborhood DBA,

Chuck 


Re: t/05threadclone.t fails

2005-04-11 Thread Tim Bunce
On Mon, Apr 11, 2005 at 09:28:02AM -0400, Philip M. Gollucci wrote:
 I'm running perl -Mblib t/05thrclone.t in a loop using v5.8.6 built
 for i386-freebsd-thread-multi and I've had no failures yet.
 
 * Whats the uname -a you've got ?

It's 4.10-STABLE (old, I know, and destined to be radically upgraded
within a month or three).

 * Did you link against libc_r or libpthread.

pthread, see below.

 I'll retest this tonightish.

Thanks.

Anyone else got a perl built with threads enabled that they can
stress-test with t/05thrclone.t? Just grab 05thrclone.t from here
http://svn.perl.org/modules/dbi/trunk/t/05thrclone.t
And use something like this (assuming a borne-like shell):

  while perl 05thrclone.t  05thrclone.log 21; do date; done

Should run forever. If it fails it'll stop and 05thrclone.log
will hold the log of the last run. Let us know how long it ran for
and what 05thrclone.log says.  Thanks!

Tim.


Summary of my perl5 (revision 5 version 8 subversion 6) configuration:
  Platform:
osname=freebsd, osvers=4.10-stable, archname=i386-freebsd-thread-multi
uname='freebsd dansat.data-plan.com 4.10-stable freebsd 4.10-stable #0: thu 
nov 25 15:23:12 gmt 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:usrobjusrsrcsysdansatsmp i386 '
config_args='-des -Dprefix=/usr/local/perl585-i -Doptimize=-g -Duseithreads 
-Dusemultiplicity'
hint=recommended, useposix=true, d_sigaction=define
usethreads=define use5005threads=undef useithreads=define 
usemultiplicity=define
useperlio=define d_sfio=undef uselargefiles=define usesocks=undef
use64bitint=undef use64bitall=undef uselongdouble=undef
usemymalloc=n, bincompat5005=undef
  Compiler:
cc='cc', ccflags ='-DHAS_FPSETMASK -DHAS_FLOATINGPOINT_H -DDEBUGGING 
-fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -I/usr/local/include',
optimize='-g',
cppflags='-DHAS_FPSETMASK -DHAS_FLOATINGPOINT_H -DDEBUGGING 
-fno-strict-aliasing -pipe -I/usr/local/include'
ccversion='', gccversion='2.95.4 20020320 [FreeBSD]', gccosandvers=''
intsize=4, longsize=4, ptrsize=4, doublesize=8, byteorder=1234
d_longlong=define, longlongsize=8, d_longdbl=define, longdblsize=12
ivtype='long', ivsize=4, nvtype='double', nvsize=8, Off_t='off_t', 
lseeksize=8
alignbytes=4, prototype=define
  Linker and Libraries:
ld='cc', ldflags ='-pthread -Wl,-E  -L/usr/local/lib'
libpth=/usr/lib /usr/local/lib
libs=-lgdbm -ldb -lm -lcrypt -lutil -lc_r
perllibs=-lm -lcrypt -lutil -lc_r
libc=, so=so, useshrplib=false, libperl=libperl.a
gnulibc_version=''
  Dynamic Linking:
dlsrc=dl_dlopen.xs, dlext=so, d_dlsymun=undef, ccdlflags=' '
cccdlflags='-DPIC -fPIC', lddlflags='-shared  -L/usr/local/lib'


Re: t/05threadclone.t fails

2005-04-11 Thread Philip M. Gollucci
It's 4.10-STABLE (old, I know, and destined to be radically upgraded
within a month or three).
Ahah!  thats before the kernel SMPng !
Thats a _BIG_ difference... I'll stress it tongiht.
(FBSD 6.0-current w/ libpthread)
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Senior Developer - Liquidity Services Inc.
Phone:  202.568.6268 (Direct)
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Re: Installing and trying DBD::Sybase 1.05

2005-04-11 Thread Michael Peppler
On Mon, 2005-04-11 at 10:16, Miguel Covas O'Ryan wrote:
 I've just downloaded DBD::Sybase 1.05 on my personal platform Mac OS X  
 10.3.8. I usually
 end up installing tested versions on HP-UX 11.x machines.
 
 I've been using DBD:.Sybase 1.04 plus DBI-1.48 with no problems (except  
 those created
 by myself) on OS X.
 
 I've been able to generate the module, but the testing fails:
 
 $ make test
 PERL_DL_NONLAZY=1 /usr/bin/perl -MExtUtils::Command::MM -e  
 test_harness(0, 'blib/lib', 'blib/arch') t/*.t
 t/autocommitok 1/5dyld: /usr/bin/perl Undefined symbols:
 blib/arch/auto/DBD/Sybase/Sybase.bundle undefined reference to  
 _CFBundleCopyBundleURL expected to be defined in a dynamic image
 blib/arch/auto/DBD/Sybase/Sybase.bundle undefined reference to  
 _CFBundleGetBundleWithIdentifier expected to be defined in a dynamic  
 image

A little googling goes a long way...

http://groups-beta.google.com/group/sybase.public.macosx/browse_thread/thread/58a37c62080397dd/d22a38db2705d421?q=_CFBundleCopyBundleURLrnum=2#d22a38db2705d421

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Re: install_driver(Sybase) failed: DBD::Sybase initialize:

2005-04-11 Thread Michael Peppler
On Mon, 2005-04-11 at 14:58, Desai, Anand (HP-GDIC) wrote:
 Help..
 I have been struggling to get DBI to work on my server...
 Here is the code..
 #! /usr/bin/perl
 
 #use strict;
 BEGIN
 {
 $ENV{SYBASE} = /opt/sybase11.9.2;
 }

 nstall_driver(Sybase) failed: DBD::Sybase initialize: ct_init(1100)
 failed at /opt/perl-uxpe/lib/5.8.0/PA-RISC1.1-thread-multi/DynaLoader.pm
 line 249.

In general this means that the actual Sybase libraries that are loaded
are of an older version level than the ones used to build the
DBD::Sybase module. Another possibility is that your Sybase installation
is somehow incorrect.

The first thing to check is the SHLIB_PATH (I think that's what it's
called under HP-UX) to make sure that the correct Sybase library
directory is picked up at run-time, and second you should check that the
libraries in $SYBASE/lib are the right ones (for example, run 
strings $SYBASE/lib/libct.a | grep Sybase
and see what version string you get.

As an example, I get:

Sybase Client-Library/15.0/A/DRV.15.0.0/Linux Intel/Linux
2.4.21-20.ELsmp i686/BUILD1500-032/OPT/Mon Feb 28 16:00:11 2005

In your case you should get 11.1.1 instead of the 15.0, and probably
some EBF string.

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Re: Errors while inserting into long data type

2005-04-11 Thread Ovid
Oh, and I see you *did* send this to the DBI list.  Never mind my
previous comment :)

Cheers,
Ovid
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Re: Errors while inserting into long data type

2005-04-11 Thread Ovid
Hi Mallik,

I suspect you'll get more help on a DBI list, but right off the bat,
I'm wondering why it says string literal too long.  Are you adding
the data directly to an SQL query?  In other words, are you doing
something like this?

  INSERT INTO TABLE (name) VALUES ('$some_var');

Not only is that a potential security hole if done incorrectly, but I
believe some DBD's will choke if $some_var is too large.  Try using a
bind variable and see if that avoids the problem:

  my $sth = $dbh-prepare(INSERT INTO TABLE (name) VALUES (?));
  $sth-execute($some_var);

Cheers,
Ovid

--- Mallik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi Friends,
 
 I am using oracle database and I have column of long data type. I
 insert the
 data into this column thru perl script. If the inserted data exceeds
 4000
 chars, it is giving me the following error.
 
 DBD::Oracle::st execute failed: ORA-01704: string literal too long
 (DBD
 ERROR: OCIStmtExecute) at MT/TACDbManager.pm line 445.
 
 Whereas we can insert upto 2GB of data in long data type.
 
 Pl. help me out to solve this.
 
 Thanks  Regards,
 Mallik.
 
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DBD-Oracle

2005-04-11 Thread Christian Braeuner
Dear perl dbi team,
I need a windows binary for the DBD-Oracle, but it seems the esoftmatic 
link is invalid. Do you know any different sources or whether the 
esoftmatic is only temporarily unavailable?

Kind Regards,
Christian Braeuner


Re: db or file access?

2005-04-11 Thread Kevin Carothers
On Apr 11, 2005 12:56 AM, Peter J. Holzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On 2005-04-10 10:23:38 +1000, Ron Savage wrote:
  IMHO data goes in databases and files go in directories.
 
[--- good stuff snipped ---]
 
 RDBMs are generally optimized for lots of small data items which are
 organized into tables. Filesystems are generally optimized for larger
 data items organized into trees. There is considerable overlap where
 neither has a clear advantage, and of course it varies depending on what
 RDBMS and filesystem you use.
 

It's basically what's being said in this post, but I personally would
opt for storing the files outside of the DB, because my experience
saya that BLOB and CLOB datatypes severely mess up database  IO
performance.   But if you DO follow this suggestion, be sure your
application is written robustly enough to easily change the image root
directory because the pix WILL get moved around over the lifespan of
your app.


HTH,
kdot


RE: Accessing MS Access

2005-04-11 Thread Moreno, Javier
Ok. I have tried ADO as well with no luck. Please help!

snip

# Include CPAN modules for DB communication
use DBI;
#use DBD::ODBC;
use DBD::ADO;
#use Win32::OLE;

# Use these pragmas to code correctly
use strict;

# Include custom functions
require Functions.pl;

# Debug
$::DEBUG=1;

# Connect to the database, return error message if something went wrong
my ($path_to_mdb_file) = '\\slpmxwtstandclu\testdata$\Data_2.mdb';
my ($dsn)= Provider=Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.4.0;Data Source=$path_to_mdb_file;
Debug(About to connect to $dsn);
#$::dbh = DBI-connect( dbi:ADO::Provider=Microsoft.Jet.OLEDB.4.0;Jet 
OLEDB:Engine Type=5;Data Source=$path_to_mdb_file ,'admin', { AutoCommit = 1} 
) or
$::dbh = DBI-connect(dbi:ADO:$dsn, 'Admin', '', { AutoCommit = 1} ) or
Error(Unable to connect to database.);

endsnip

With the first connection string I got:

[Mon Apr 11 14:23:42 2005] [error] [client 151.110.117.153] Usage: 
$class-connect([$dsn [,$user [,$passwd [,\\%attr) at 
C:/oracle/ora92/Apache/Apache/ITTWeb/cgi-bin/CLUCTR.pl line 63\r, referer: 
http://slpmxwmorenojav/ITTWeb/cgi-bin/Welcome.pl

while with the second I get:

[Mon Apr 11 14:29:57 2005] [error] [client 151.110.117.153] dbih_getcom given 
an undefined handle (perhaps returned from a previous call which failed) at 
C:/Perl/site/lib/DBI.pm line 598.\r, referer: 
http://slpmxwmorenojav/ITTWeb/cgi-bin/Welcome.pl

Regards,

Javier Moreno

-Original Message-
From: amonotod [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 8:07 PM
To: Moreno, Javier; dbi-users@perl.org
Subject: Re: Accessing MS Access


 From: Moreno, Javier [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2005/04/08 Fri PM 03:44:40 CDT
snip
 I posted a question and have tried several solutions on how to open 
 up an MS Access DB from the DBI::ODBC but so far have been unable to. 
snip
 I was wondering if there is a better way to get information 
 from Access so I can see it on my CGI with DBI.
snip

Well, I've posted several times (the last time was in a reply to a 
thread that you started) that you should use ADO to connect to your 
Access database, and I gave you connection examples.  So, I guess the 
answer is yes, there may indeed be a better way to connect to your 
Access database than with DBD::ODBC.  If not better, at least different.

http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.dbi.users/26145

 Regards,
 Javier Moreno

HTH,
amonotod

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Re: Accessing MS Access

2005-04-11 Thread Kevin Carothers
On Apr 11, 2005 12:35 PM, Moreno, Javier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ok. I have tried ADO as well with no luck. Please help!
 
 snip
 
 # Include CPAN modules for DB communication
 use DBI;
 #use DBD::ODBC;
 use DBD::ADO;
 #use Win32::OLE;
 
 # Use these pragmas to code correctly
 use strict;
 
 # Include custom functions
 require Functions.pl;
 
 # Debug
 $::DEBUG=1;
 
 # Connect to the database, return error message if something went wrong
 my ($path_to_mdb_file) = '\\slpmxwtstandclu\testdata$\Data_2.mdb';

Aha!
You are attempting to connect to a database on what looks like a network share.
My guess is this is probably not a Perl issue, but rather a network
authentication issue-
 Try to create an empty text file on  '\\slpmxwtstandclu from the
same account you're running your script from... If  you can, then my
guess is there's something funny going on in the Access DB.

But if you can't, then make sure the network account from which you
physically run the perl script has read/write permissions for the
network resource you are using and if you schedule this perl
script to run at a specific time,  you have to make sure the
definition of the scheduled task ALSO has the network authentication
parameters (user name / passwd) correct.

HTH-
kc


Re: Accessing MS Access

2005-04-11 Thread amonotod
 From: Kevin Carothers [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 2005/04/11 Mon PM 03:06:59 CDT

 On Apr 11, 2005 12:35 PM, Moreno, Javier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Ok. I have tried ADO as well with no luck. Please help!
snip
  my ($path_to_mdb_file) = '\\slpmxwtstandclu\testdata$\Data_2.mdb';
 
 Aha!
 You are attempting to connect to a database on what looks like a network 
 share.
 My guess is this is probably not a Perl issue, but rather a network
 authentication issue-
snip
 But if you can't, then make sure the network account from which you
 physically run the perl script has read/write permissions for the
 network resource you are using...

Another way to test that theory, is copying your .mdb file over to a 
local path on the webserver, like \\webserver\c$\temp, then changing 
$path_to_mdb_file = c:/temp/Data_2.mdb

In case that is the issue, and you're running IIS, here you go:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q207671

HTH,
amonotod


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RE: DBD-Oracle

2005-04-11 Thread Jeff Urlwin
Please, temporarily, change ftp.esoftmatic.com to 24.249.249.7.  I'm still 
working on
resolving the DNS issues since moving ISPs and my current ISP is relatively 
deaf.  I
probably have to bit the bullett and put DNS on my server(s), which I'm not 
thrilled about
;)

Jeff


 -Original Message-
 From: Christian Braeuner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 2:19 PM
 To: dbi-users@perl.org
 Subject: DBD-Oracle
 
 
 Dear perl dbi team,
 
 I need a windows binary for the DBD-Oracle, but it seems the 
 esoftmatic 
 link is invalid. Do you know any different sources or whether the 
 esoftmatic is only temporarily unavailable?
 
 Kind Regards,
 Christian Braeuner
 



RE: Errors while inserting into long data type

2005-04-11 Thread Mallik
Hi Philip,

Thanks for your reply. It worked with bind_param. 

I have one more question, how to set the LongReadLen parameter in a perl
script?

Thanks,
Mallik.  

-Original Message-
From: Philip Mikal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 11:36 PM
To: 'Mallik'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Errors while inserting into long data type

Hi Mallik,

String literals in Oracle are limited to 4000 characters. 

http://www.google.com/search?hl=enq=Inserting+and+Updating+LONG%2FLOB+Colum
ns

Also, you may find using the perl-trolls alias better for general perl
programming questions.

Regards,
 
Philip Mikal
ITD Webteam
Cisco Internet Experts

-Original Message-
From: Mallik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 4:10 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Errors while inserting into long data type

Hi Friends,

I am using oracle database and I have column of long data type. I insert the
data into this column thru perl script. If the inserted data exceeds 4000
chars, it is giving me the following error.

DBD::Oracle::st execute failed: ORA-01704: string literal too long (DBD
ERROR: OCIStmtExecute) at MT/TACDbManager.pm line 445.

Whereas we can insert upto 2GB of data in long data type.

Pl. help me out to solve this.

Thanks  Regards,
Mallik.