Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-announce] DebConf Travel Reimbursements
Quoting Martin Bagge (brot...@bsnet.se): See ISO 4217 and/or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_circulating_currencies apt-get install iso-codes is of course your friend..:-) (for which we are always hunting for translations, by the way) ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
[Debconf-discuss] BoF rooms details
In case you schedule an activity to be held in the BoF room, please keep in mind that: • There is no PA equipment (microphone, speakers). Although the hall is quite small, the air conditioning is LOUDEST we have so far seen. I hope it reaches a point where it can be turned off. The room has a great self-heating capability! • There is no projector, so if you have a presentation, prepare the file to be online so attendees can follow from their own computer. -- Gunnar Wolf • gw...@gwolf.org • (+52-55)5623-0154 / 1451-2244 pgpGR9avvoYc6.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
[Debconf-discuss] maemo help
Hi there, If there's some maemo hacker around during DebConf, I would appreciate some help with a really bothersome bug I've been experiencing for months... The bug is reported at https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3415 -- Martín Ferrari ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-announce] The now traditional Cheese and Wine party (formal announcement)
also sprach Giacomo Catenazzi c...@debian.org [2009.07.24.1851 +0200]: I did not bring any Swiss cheese (fear of stinking cheese by summer temperatures and long trip). But I would like to sponsor some local cheese. At Christian's request, debian.ch has sponsored 2kg of cheese that's already in the fridge. ;) -- .''`. martin f. krafft madd...@debconf.org : :' : DebConf orga team; press officer `. `'` `- DebConf9: 24-30 Jul 2009, Extremadura, ES: http://debconf9.debconf.org * Overfiend came out of the womb complaining. -- #debian-devel ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-announce] The now traditional Cheese and Wine party (formal announcement)
martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Giacomo Catenazzi c...@debian.org [2009.07.24.1851 +0200]: I did not bring any Swiss cheese (fear of stinking cheese by summer temperatures and long trip). But I would like to sponsor some local cheese. At Christian's request, debian.ch has sponsored 2kg of cheese that's already in the fridge. ;) Already in fondue form? ;-) ciao cate ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-announce] The now traditional Cheese and Wine party (formal announcement)
also sprach Giacomo Catenazzi c...@debian.org [2009.07.25.1234 +0200]: Already in fondue form? ;-) No way. It's in the fridge. ;) -- .''`. martin f. krafft madd...@debconf.org : :' : DebConf orga team; press officer `. `'` `- DebConf9: 24-30 Jul 2009, Extremadura, ES: http://debconf9.debconf.org save the plankton - eat a whale. ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
[Debconf-discuss] Volunteers needed, to introduce speakers
Hello, We are looking for some volunteers to moderate the talks. That's an easy and useful task. Basically, the task consists in: 1. Introducing the speaker 2. Making sure details goes fine during the talk (make sure people uses the mic, etc...) 3. Helping the speaker finishing in time (showing count-down papers...) We have written a wiki page with some hints http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/TalkModeratorCheatSheet If you want to help, just get in touch with me[1]. You will be granted access to the page in penta, where you can pick the schedule. [1] https://penta.debconf.org/dc9_schedule/speakers/686.en.html ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-announce] The now traditional Cheese and Wine party (formal announcement)
At Fri, 24 Jul 2009 21:11:59 +0200, Nicolas Fran$(D+.(Bois wrote: The Cheese Wine Party will happen tomorrow (Saturday 2009-07-25) evening at 23:00 in the Patio (close to the dinner place) If you have any cheese or other stuff that require cooling (either for preservation or taste), bring it to the front desk so that it can be put in the fridge. Will be there an ice? My ume liquor suits for on the rocks rather than straight. Thanks, -- Kenshi Muto km...@debian.org ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-announce] The now traditional Cheese and Wine party (formal announcement)
Hi, On Sat, Jul 25, 2009 at 10:17:32PM +0900, km...@debian.org wrote: At Fri, 24 Jul 2009 21:11:59 +0200, Nicolas François wrote: The Cheese Wine Party will happen tomorrow (Saturday 2009-07-25) evening at 23:00 in the Patio (close to the dinner place) If you have any cheese or other stuff that require cooling (either for preservation or taste), bring it to the front desk so that it can be put in the fridge. Will be there an ice? My ume liquor suits for on the rocks rather than straight. There is a freezer on top of the fridge. You may put your bottle there. You can also check if there are some ice cubes in it. If not, we can probably get some from the restaurant. Cheers, -- Nekral ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-announce] The now traditional Cheese and Wine party (formal announcement)
-=| Nicolas François, Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 09:11:59PM +0200 |=- We will have a meeting tomorrow morning at 11:00 to check what need to be bought (which could be local food, beverage, bread, or tools (toothpicks?)), and to organize the preparation of the Cheese Wine It is may be too late now, but I brought 1000 toothpicks as promised. -- dam signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
[Debconf-discuss] Vending machines b0rken^Wempty long-term
The water bottle vending machines are empty. Even if they were not, the prices in which they are sold to us has been increased. Anyway - We will most probably not have it refilled until Monday, so in case you want some, you'd better get water at the nearby supermarkets. -- Gunnar Wolf • gw...@gwolf.org • (+52-55)5623-0154 / 1451-2244 ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-announce] The now traditional Cheese and Wine party (formal announcement)
It isn't. I was supposed to contact you about that, but you always seemed to be missing at the 'right' time. 2009/7/25, Damyan Ivanov d...@debian.org: -=| Nicolas François, Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 09:11:59PM +0200 |=- We will have a meeting tomorrow morning at 11:00 to check what need to be bought (which could be local food, beverage, bread, or tools (toothpicks?)), and to organize the preparation of the Cheese Wine It is may be too late now, but I brought 1000 toothpicks as promised. -- dam -- Regards, EddyP = Imagination is more important than knowledge A.Einstein ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
[Debconf-discuss] Cheese and Wine party: last news
http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf9/CheeseWineBoF has been updated with what I think is useful information. See you around 23:00 around the small patio close to the dinner room! ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
[Debconf-discuss] 2nd visit Old Town Wednesday 29
Hola a todas please confirm with a (C) in your name, and the people to the 1st visit need to pay ASAP , 3€ in frontdesk salud ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Table tennis tournament?
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 01:08:12AM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote: So, that 'deadline' has now passed, and I drew lots (literally) to determine pairs of players. The wiki page has been updated accordingly; people who signed up should check the page to determine against whom they should play. There are still several people who've not played their match. Out of ten matches, only four have been played so far. I'd like to request that people do not postpone their match until the last minute; otherwise it's going to be a bit of a queue at the end :-) Note also that the deadline is tomorrow evening (ish), and that matches that are not played by then will automatically disqualify their players. -- The biometric identification system at the gates of the CIA headquarters works because there's a guard with a large gun making sure no one is trying to fool the system. http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/01/biometrics.html ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
[Debconf-discuss] breakfast times changed tomorrow
Hi, today, sunday, breakfast will be served from 9:30 to 11:00. Which is great, as the first talk starts at 11:00! :-) The rest of the days breakfast will be served as usual, that is from 8:30 to 10:00. If this is short notice for you, you didnt attend the cheese and wine party, which is way more pity :-D (And should you remember that last week I wrote an email stating this sunday breakfast will be as everyday, I've changed my mind^w^w^w^wthere was some error...) regards, Holger signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part. ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
[Debconf-discuss] Teams in Debian: Finding and integrating new members - summary of the BOF at DebConf9
[mailed to debian-qa (because I think improving the way teams work is an aspect of QA in Debian), and to debconf-discuss (since it's debconf related). RT and MFT set to debian-qa] Teams in Debian: Finding and integrating new members == Trying to find ideas to make the first phase of group membership easier [BOF held during DebConf9, 2009-07,25, Cáceres] 1) Background - During DebConf8 two BOFs took place around the topic of team-maintaining packages. One issue defined as a common challenge for all teams was the question of how to find and integrate new members. The discussion showed that none of the present teams was using a structured approach for recruitment and induction at that time. The BOF this year was intended to pick up the discussion of finding and integrating new members into teams where it stopped in Mar del Plata. It will focussed on collecting models of good practice and developing ideas for improvement. 2) Steps After a short introduction and overview the participants were invited to join an imaginary journey, a travel back in memory to the period in time when they joined a team in Debian. Some of the experiences from this journey were shared afterwards. The main part of the BOF was a group discussion about various points around finding and integrating new members, based on the experiences of the participants both as new members and as regulars in teams. Thankfully the ideas of successful approaches and areas for future improvement were noted simultanuously at http://whiteboard.debian.net/bof_members.txt This is the attempt to summarize the output, group by category of issue. 3) Information about team, advertising Question: How can we let potential contributors now about our teams, which ways of advertisement work? * People learn about teams by getting replies to bug reports. * People find links on related webpages or detect team pages directly. * People actively look for teams when trying to package something or work in some area. * People are pointed to teams when looking for sponsors. + Clearly state the benefits of joining. + Publish contact info on bug reports. + Invite people at real-life meetings. ? One central place instead of n-plicating info for all teams? How about the developer's reference? And/or http://www.debian.org/devel/join/ ? 4) Motivations for joining -- Question: What reasons do contributors have for joining a group, which benefits should be stressed? * You get free sponsorship. * You get advice, help, mentoring, ... * If you already working on stuff related to the team's main goal, we can join forces, use synergy. 5) How to get fresh blood - Question: What methods work to attract potential contributors? * Invite them when they ask for sponsorship on debian-mentors. * Inquire anyone with a doubt to see if they feel competent to join the group. Sometimes showing interest is enough. * Blog about concrete problems and ways to help. 6) Stepping stones and obstacles Question: What makes it easier or more difficult to join? How can we make joining as low-threshold as possible? * When there's no real team, just a group of people everyone working on their own. * Inertia before de-lurking on IRC/mailing lists. First announcement of request to join team can be scary! -- Instructions/example helps. * People working in the team is scarce, so it's difficult getting anyone's attention to have directions or advices. -- Don't leave mails un-answered! * Understanding the local customs and idioms. There can be plenty of those. -- When there is already a team with a specific workflow you need to learn first. -- Maybe a special introductory documentation could help? Or some ways of mentoring? * Perhaps non-DDs/beginners do not realise that they /can/ join a particular team, even if they know of its existence. -- How can we make teams in general more visible? * Language barriers (aka language cabals :). * Strongly connected local teams which do a lot of communication off list so you don't notice many aspects when trying to join the team. * Timezones. * [Often mentioned and stressed:] A friendly welcome and gentle support is encouraging. * A low threshold for getting commit rights etc. makes it easier to join. * Send the clear message that it's ok for newcomers to make mistakes. * Presentation of the group members (e.g. profiles on wiki) so the potential contributors don't face an anonymous group but individuals. 7) Mutual expectations -- Question: Do (potential) new contributors know what they can expect from the group and what the group expects from them? * All bugs are small with enough eyes. * Peer review of your own work (does anyone actually do that? -- yes, all the time when I was new I got feedback,
