Re: [Debconf-discuss] Conference Dinner!
We won't leave until 19:45 that's the only right info I have On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 7:16 PM, Jonathan Wiltshire j...@debian.org wrote: On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 04:27:05PM +0200, Velimir Iveljic wrote: We will all meet at 19:30 in front of the Venue (Banski Dvor), and go there together. The posters in the hacklab (and IIRC a mail somewhere) say 19:45. Which is correct? -- Jonathan Wiltshire j...@debian.org Debian Developer http://people.debian.org/~jmw 4096R: 0xD3524C51 / 0A55 B7C5 1223 3942 86EC 74C3 5394 479D D352 4C51 ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss -- Adnan ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
[Debconf-discuss] Lost anything on Debian Day?
I just got an sms from one of the Debian Day organizers that Tollef Fog Heen from Norway lost his accreditation/id and his wallet(?), Tollef you'll be able to pick this up tomorrow from Hotel Bosna front desk. -- Adnan ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] For those who care about the day trip
@Gergely, It's all been paid for, including lunch/barbique after we all meet at the same point. @Karolina, swimsuit, or whatever you'd be confrortable getting wet in. Yes, there is a place where you can change clothes afterwards @Gunnar, you and others should really stop with this trust thing, it's getting annoying and it's disrespectful to the sponsors as we got/getting *everything* that was promised. On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 4:42 PM, Gunnar Wolf gw...@gwolf.org wrote: Gergely Nagy dijo [Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 03:51:06PM +0200]: So, what do we actually need for rafting? Swimsuit? Is there a place to change after getting all wet? Please include those and similar information on the wiki. Sorry for hijacking the question, but another piece of information I did not find on the wiki, is whether the trip is sponsored, or if there's a price interested people need to pay? trust level=90%The daytrip will be fully sponsored/trust ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss -- Adnan ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] meeting place in Saturday
Just get to Banski Dvor, it's full of common nerds :) Sent using Android (Nexus S) On Jul 19, 2011 11:36 AM, Damir Cedic dce...@gmail.com wrote: I'll come to Banja Luka in Saturday from Belgrade. I'll arrive early in the morning. Did someone (or group) define some hot spot in the city where we can all met? -- Damir ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] DebConf dress code (was: Banski Dvor do's and don'ts)
Any kind of shoes and clothes will do. The problem was that David was barefoot. I am sorry to impose this on you, i personally don't see a problem if someone wants to walk without shoes. I absolutely agree with this, and am of opinion that people could/should walk looking whatever they want to. If you want I could talk to somebody so this could/would be tolerated in future. This is a cultural building but most certainly isn't army. On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 4:59 PM, Velimir Iveljic velimir.li...@foolcontrol.org wrote: On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Giovanni Mascellani g...@debian.org wrote: Hi. On 18/07/2011 15:34, Paul Wise wrote: On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Jimmy Kaplowitz ji...@debian.org wrote: Question for Velimir: are casual/athletic but covered street shoes such as sneakers or running shoes sufficient to satisfy the Banski Dvor manager, or are formal business/dress shoes required? Sandals appear to be fine, I've been wearing them and received no comment from the reception guy. Since I'm planning to have sandals too, please let me know if there are problems with them. I can bring closed shoes too, but I'd like to know before leaving (which will occur on 23rd July). Thanks, Giovanni (who is looking forward to arrive to his first DebConf, but in the meantime has to finish to write his thesis). -- Giovanni Mascellani mascell...@poisson.phc.unipi.it Pisa, Italy Web: http://poisson.phc.unipi.it/~mascellani Jabber: g.mascell...@jabber.org / giova...@elabor.homelinux.org ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss Hi, I wont repeat what Jimmy said, all that is same here in Banja Luka. Any kind of shoes and clothes will do. The problem was that David was barefoot. I am sorry to impose this on you, i personally don't see a problem if someone wants to walk without shoes. Velimir ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss -- Adnan ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Ho Ho Ho
We'll get these SIM's delivered tomorrow, and we can start giving them out immediately. On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 11:11 AM, Marc Haber mh+debconf-disc...@zugschlus.de wrote: Hi, On Thu, Jun 09, 2011 at 06:58:28PM +0200, Adnan Hodzic wrote: Our gold sponsor Mtel has decided to give *every* DebConf11 attendee a phone number and package along with it! I got too excited so I'm not sure I got it right but I think this is the package they mentioned: http://www.mtel.ba/menu/2265 This is really good news (being some five weeks old) and will greatly ease communications. Do we already have hold of the SIMs, and it is possible to know ones own Mtel mobile number in advance, so that one can arrange for call forwarding before starting traveling? Greetings Marc -- - Marc Haber | I don't trust Computers. They | Mailadresse im Header Mannheim, Germany | lose things. Winona Ryder | Fon: *49 621 72739834 Nordisch by Nature | How to make an American Quilt | Fax: *49 3221 2323190 -- Adnan ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
[Debconf-discuss] Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1
I'd need someone from US (preferably NYC) coming to DebCamp/DebConf to do me a favor. AFAIK since it's not available in Europe, could someone buy me a Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 in the States and bring it over to DebCamp/DebConf? I'd pay them upon their arrival. So if anyone could do this for me please let me know. P.S: I'm also in doubt if I should get one now or wait for next-gen Icecream Sandwich series, but it's so hard to refuse! _ -- Adnan ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
[Debconf-discuss] Shuttles/Buses from Zagreb to Banja Luka cancelled
Idea about Shuttles/Buses going from Zagreb to Banja Luka has been killed and therefor cancelled. It was fairly complicated and would only generate additional costs, but nor was your response about this whole idea so great. So I'd like to inform all those who liked the idea to arrange their own transport from Zagreb to Banja Luka. Please rely on our wiki Getting to Banja Luka http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf11/TravelInfo#Getting_to_Banja_Luka -- Adnan ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Shuttles/Buses from Zagreb to Banja Luka cancelled
I just wanted to add follow up, that only shuttle that's going to be sent will be for Otavio and other 3-4 people that are arriving with him. On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 3:28 PM, Adnan Hodzic ad...@foolcontrol.org wrote: Idea about Shuttles/Buses going from Zagreb to Banja Luka has been killed and therefor cancelled. It was fairly complicated and would only generate additional costs, but nor was your response about this whole idea so great. So I'd like to inform all those who liked the idea to arrange their own transport from Zagreb to Banja Luka. Please rely on our wiki Getting to Banja Luka http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf11/TravelInfo#Getting_to_Banja_Luka -- Adnan -- Adnan ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf11-localteam] [Debconf-team] Ho Ho Ho
It's hard to believe such chaos rose from Mtel's good intentions. Mtel is *only* going to give you a SIM card and what you get with it is phone number and XX minutes so you can talk to other people without them charging you and XX mb of data transfer (3g). You're not gonna get the actual handsets. They'll give it to us, it's up to you if you want to take it or not. You won't give any personal information once you get the SIM card, there are no obligations, it's just for you to be able to talk to each other via phone while you're here, that's it. Once you used all the data and calling minutes, you're out you can throw the SIM away. No contracts no nothing. They got onto this idea after DebConf11 trailer that is after Moray's and Holger's visit after discussion was started where you could get a phone number and some calling minutes. This discussion got to their CEO and in the end they decided they could give you away these phone numbers for free. This was their nice gesture, and if they heard about this whole topic and what was discussed in it they would prolly pull back the offer. I don't know if you can understand it or not, but no one is trying to impose something on you, no one is trying to sell anything you don't wanna buy, in plain English no one is trying to screw you over. Government, sponsors, local team and I are giving our best to provide you with experience you won't forget, but it seems to me the more good things we do you only take the wrong way. Get it into your head, we're not some banana country, we're on our way to make it into EU. One of the goals of DebConf11 is to break these stereotypes and whatever else it is. Moray and Holger were here, please ask them I'm sure they got here with certain level of prejudice, but ask them with what opinion and thought did they leave? In meantime do the reality check and just ... chillax. You have no idea how hard it's to work with unneeded situations like this one. If in doubt about something, talk to somebody else before just going mental on the mailing list. Adnan On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 9:23 PM, Dejan Marjanovic dejan.marjano...@gmail.com wrote: I think they will hand out so called FREND packages, they cost about 25euro here in retail. It is basically prepaid SIM with 2.5e credits, phone (Samsung or Alcatel or Huawei), charger, and instructions. Adnan, if you can, do ask for Alcatel because they are much more advanced than Samsung. They have SD card slot and camera, therefore I think they can be connected to laptop and act as a modem. You can use SIM card in any phone you want, but you cannot use other network SIM in the mobile phone you get (I can unlock them btw :]). Here's a pic: http://k.min.us/idm976.jpg -- Dejan Marjanović Webarto • web design + development http://webarto.com • i...@webarto.com +387 61 05 85 05 • +387 66 05 33 32 ___ Debconf11-localteam mailing list debconf11-localt...@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf11-localteam ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf11-localteam] Important news regarding travel to Banja Luka
Just as it is case with Debian with its .org being official stuff and .net being unofficial we can do the same thing here. Not a problem if you ask me. I still believe what he did here is amazing even he didn't solely rely on free software, and that's exactly why we're having DebConf here among other things; so people can learn and find out more about free software :) Adnan On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 9:05 PM, Valessio Brito cont...@valessiobrito.info wrote: The work is fantastic, but you can make a version with free stuff. Alternative solutions FOSS: http://www.ushahidi.com/ example using: http://gis.debianart.org/ You can use a service with freedom and free http://crowdmap.com/ using OSM (OpenStreetMaps), and colaborative map... example url... http://debconf11.crowdmap.com 2011/5/25 Jonas Smedegaard d...@jones.dk: On 11-05-24 at 10:26pm, Adnan Hodzic wrote: One of our local team members from Tuzla (Dejan Marjanovic) did amazing job on working out the travel details on how to to get to Banja Luka. Please check www.DebConf11.com as it's one stop shop for all information regarding needed information to get to Banja Luka, your stay there and eventual departure. Wauw! Is that website a Free Software project? I would be interested in looking closer at both the design of the site (e.g. look at applying Kalle's Debian design using Sass), and the data points (e.g. juggling with OpenStreetMap and RDF). - Jonas -- * Jonas Smedegaard - idealist Internet-arkitekt * Tlf.: +45 40843136 Website: http://dr.jones.dk/ [x] quote me freely [ ] ask before reusing [ ] keep private ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss -- ://ValessioBrito.info Profissional de inovação @valessiobrito / +55 (71) VALESSIO ___ Debconf11-localteam mailing list debconf11-localt...@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf11-localteam ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Zagreb -- Banja Luka
This topic is getting hard to follow especially since I'm extremely short of time ATM. @Ian and everybody else, I'll just tell you this, I'm in Zagreb now and today I talked to some of leading people from HULK (Croatian LUG) and told them about our Zagreb Banja Luka transportation plans. Even if it's only one person they would be glad to help us out, thus meaning they could perhaps greet you at the airport and then take you to the bus station and help you get what you need. Or take you to our bus/shuttle meeting point or whatever you need help with. So the moral of what I just said is please don't panic, we have everything under control and whoever you are you or whenever you arrive you won't be left by yourself. @debconf-team We should just make sure that Arrival/Departure page is concise and has all the data/info that's needed, according from data we pull out from Penta or letting the attendees to input these details by themselves. That's my plan. @everybody, again please just don't panic :) Adnan On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Ian Jackson ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk wrote: vedran writes (Re: [Debconf-discuss] Zagreb -- Banja Luka): We understand your concerns but from our perspective things doesn't look so disorganized. Yes there is still a lot of missing points but at least there are well defined general guidelines about travel. Zagreb -- Banja Luka are very well connected with buses so even if you come to Zagreb without any preparation, you would not have any difficulty comming to Banja Luka. (Although i believe you will have all necessary guidelines on time.) Just please don't make panic. This is precisely the kind of response that I was complaining about. What people need is INFORMATION, not reassurance. Those flying into Zagreb need to know when they book flights (which ideally would be done a month or two ago) that they have a good plan for what they will do on arrival in Zagreb. That means the kind of detailed information about what and how I described in my previous email. Telling people there is a bus is not sufficient. We need detailed information about times, reliability, buying tickets, where to catch the bus, directions to the bus station or stops, how to know when to get off, who will speak which languages, etc. Those who are arriving late at night need recommendations for where to stay. Instead, here we have another message telling us don't worry and don't make panic. If you _provided the information_ people needed, no-one would be worried. Saying it's all fine but _not_ providing that information tells us not only is it not organised, but the people who would be organising it don't understand the problem. Ie, when you say it's all fine we see that there is a big problem. That means that people who aren't confident in their ability to deal with these kind of issues by themselves simply won't come to Debconf. Also, today Adnan presented DebConf11 organization at ODRS/CLUC event in Zagreb (www.dorscluc.org) and invited more more people to join travel team and help with those issues in case you are coming via Zagreb. People ware very interested in DebConf11 today so i have no doubt there will be some volunteers from Zagreb helping about this issue. Where are the local team for Banja Luka in this conversation ? Ian. ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Zagreb -- Banja Luka
Ian, Once again you have provided reassurance rather than information. This is, as I say, very UN-reassuring. Did you even read what I wrote ? No I haven't, last email I read was Josips which was 18 hours ago. I'd like to apologize for this as I tend not to give out any information or answers before previously really devouring what I'm about to say. It's just that I was very tired (still am but got ~30min nap) as after UDS I came here to Zagreb for another event and was just excited about sharing news regarding their help offer. Once again I apologize for my negligent act. It is that after I read your last email that I got onto a conclusion what we need to do, but before anything let me say couple of things. Where are the local team for Banja Luka in this conversation ? Very good question, and this goes together with Holgers statement that local team is very unorganized. I have to agree with him on it, there's tons of volunteers and people who offered their help and all, but once it comes to actually helping out with topics they just don't do anything. Why, I have no idea it fascinates me as it might fascinate you as well. In beginning there was basically only me who was doing all the work, later on more good people joined and started helping out I won't be naming anybody as their work is evidently seen on lists and so on. That's why I think Moray's and Holger's visit is more then important and will only help us in future process before few of us doing work break under our own weight. I was/am planning to send an email to local mailing list, telling them about Moray's and Holger's arrival as I'm pretty sure most of them are not even aware they are even coming. Now I'm not just trolling my own team, what I'm doing here is criticize it, as I don't want to close my eyes in front of problems that really do exist and all of this will lead to us eventually solving it. I have a theory why the situation is like it is, and it pulls some financial factors along the way so I'd rather explain it to Moray and Holger between our own 6 eyes. And after the talks we have with them situation is going to improve. Furthermore, instead of giving you any reassurance I'd like to say that I agree with you. I remember my trip to DC9 and to be honest it was pain, after airplane landed it was going through Madrid metro with basically no body speaking English, and when I was thinking that last train has left and when I was thinking of staying in some hotel in Madrid for a night that I *literally* was running after last train and hopping on to it. No ticket no nothing due to language barriers. Taking that train to Caceres is whole another story which doesn't matter for this topic, but it was all due to that there wasn't enough logistical data. Enough said. If I only had information it would've been all fine, but if I had this kind of reassurance we're offering I'd be more then happy. Now, I'd like to just point out that getting to Banja Luka is any way as it was getting to Caceres; but this is where my sentence will end as I'll apparently start doing my reassurance speech again. Lets do this, instead of having local buses/so on as our backup option besides our own organized buses/shuttles lets use HULK and hopefully help of local team in Bosnia to get all possible information one would need to get to Banja Luka on his own. Only thing that I can guarantee you is that this information will be online by the end of month; why we haven't done this before, well we thought there wasn't need for one such thing as you're able to find it all pretty much online on websites we have already shown and we're in middle of Europe and not in middle of some other continent or whatever. Since we have buses/shuttles we just thought it would be easier to assign X number of shuttles to go to Y places at Z time/s. When would we say where each shuttle/bus will be where would be all said in its time, that is once its time to release one such information, it can't turn to morning if night didn't come before that. Dependencies, and we still haven't even finished registrations. Now, is that enough INFORMATION for you? Adnan On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 5:37 PM, Ian Jackson ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk wrote: Adnan Hodzic writes (Re: [Debconf-discuss] Zagreb -- Banja Luka): So the moral of what I just said is please don't panic, we have everything under control and whoever you are you or whenever you arrive you won't be left by yourself. ... On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Ian Jackson ijack...@chiark.greenend.org.uk wrote: This is precisely the kind of response that I was complaining about. What people need is INFORMATION, not reassurance. Once again you have provided reassurance rather than information. This is, as I say, very UN-reassuring. Did you even read what I wrote ? Ian. ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Zagreb -- Banja Luka
Yes, adding yourself to that page would be great for anyone who would like to be picked up. Sent using Android (Nexus S) On May 16, 2011 11:17 AM, Philip Hands p...@hands.com wrote: On Mon, 16 May 2011 09:31:00 +0100, Ian Campbell i...@hellion.org.uk wrote: On Mon, 2011-05-16 at 00:10 +0200, Adnan Hodzic wrote: +50 if there is more then 1 guy as I just said, I don't know how much it makes sense to send a whole shuttle for only one guy. Thanks for the reply, I quite understand your point of view. I'll make my own arrangements. Hi Ian, You are aware of the fact that the public bus service runs every couple of hours from Zagreb to Banja Luka, I take it? I'd say that that fact makes the presence or otherwise of a DebConf shuttle largely irrelevant -- if you're OK with the normal bus service, and you're at a busy time, you'll get the nice surprise of being picked up from the airport. If you're upset by the bus service, the DebConf bus isn't going to be much different, so you should probably make your own plans anyway. Either way, list yourself on the Arrivals/Departures wiki pages, as that might allow people to car-share if you've already decided on hiring a car from sarajevo, say. BTW Good luck -- if you find a route that works, _please_ update the http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf11/Travel-Arriving page -- if on the other hand you lose the will to live (as I did) and realise that the information that you needed to decide that searching for alternatives was hopeless is either missing or hidden on the wiki page, perhaps you can improve on what's there so that those who come after you are better informed. Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] http://www.hands.com/ |-| HANDS.COM Ltd. http://www.uk.debian.org/ |(| 10 Onslow Gardens, South Woodford, London E18 1NE ENGLAND ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Zagreb -- Banja Luka
Ian, If you're going to Ljubljanja you could go directly to Banja Luka with an airplain, Phil did that check that option as well. Adnan Sent using Android (Nexus S) On May 16, 2011 12:07 PM, Ian Campbell i...@hellion.org.uk wrote: On Mon, 2011-05-16 at 10:17 +0100, Philip Hands wrote: On Mon, 16 May 2011 09:31:00 +0100, Ian Campbell i...@hellion.org.uk wrote: On Mon, 2011-05-16 at 00:10 +0200, Adnan Hodzic wrote: +50 if there is more then 1 guy as I just said, I don't know how much it makes sense to send a whole shuttle for only one guy. Thanks for the reply, I quite understand your point of view. I'll make my own arrangements. Hi Ian, You are aware of the fact that the public bus service runs every couple of hours from Zagreb to Banja Luka, I take it? Yes. The only reason I was considering any other option was that I can save myself a 2+ hour car journey (longer by train) at the UK end if I can fly from Stansted instead of Heathrow, but that means going to Ljubljana instead of Zagreb. I've pretty much decided that saving myself a couple of hours travel in the UK is not worth the complexity/hassle of doing my own thing at the other end. I'd say that that fact makes the presence or otherwise of a DebConf shuttle largely irrelevant -- if you're OK with the normal bus service, and you're at a busy time, you'll get the nice surprise of being picked up from the airport. If you're upset by the bus service, the DebConf bus isn't going to be much different, I think this is a very good way to think of it, thanks. Ian. -- Ian Campbell Current Noise: Suffocation - Breeding The Spawn At least they're ___ EXPERIENCED incompetents ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Zagreb -- Banja Luka
I guess we could have it arranged, as long as he's not the only time leaving in that time +2/-2hrs. Adnan On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 5:54 PM, Holger Levsen hol...@layer-acht.org wrote: Hi, On Freitag, 13. Mai 2011, Ian Campbell wrote: Is it expected that there will be shuttles leaving on the Friday? (I'd be taking off at 1750) I dunno. Adnan? (And Ian, take off at 1750 means arriving when in Zaghreb?) cheers, Holger ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Zagreb -- Banja Luka
+50 if there is more then 1 guy as I just said, I don't know how much it makes sense to send a whole shuttle for only one guy. Adnan On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 12:01 AM, Holger Levsen hol...@layer-acht.org wrote: Hi, On Sonntag, 15. Mai 2011, Adnan Hodzic wrote: I guess we could have it arranged, as long as he's not the only time leaving in that time +2/-2hrs. what if, if he is? what if, if in that time +-6hrs? +-24hrs? cheers, Holger ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Zagreb -- Banja Luka
I said this on numerous occasions, but let me repeat it one more time. Once the registrations are all cleared and set up, we should have Arrival/Departure page where based on all registration details we'll be able to statistically predict when to send most bus/es/shuttle/es to Zagreb to pick up people. Again, need your help which is providing information in order to realize idea of organized transport. Adnan On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 1:29 AM, Gunnar Wolf gw...@gwolf.org wrote: Ana Guerrero dijo [Thu, May 05, 2011 at 06:59:46PM +0200]: And once you are in the city center 20 min after, what are your options? :) Out of kidding, I am asking more about how safe is sleeping in the airport, sleeping in the bus station or if there was some night train bus going to Bosnia (now I have the schedules of the buses I see there isn't any). If some people arrive late and have to spend the night in Zagreb, it would be good to know about some place to sleep better than random hotel you find. Yup, I'll jump in here. Me and my GF are arriving to Zagreb at 21:30 on the 18th, and the bus to Banja Luka departs at 22:00 - So, clearly, we will miss it. Are there any recommendations? We will most likely be very tired from a long trip and more interested in a cheap+clean hotel than anything else. How are hotel prices in Zagreb? Maybe we should have a list of recommendations/contact data? (or, of course, if we have The Magic Shuttle available, or anybody happens to pass through Zagreb at that time on their long drive to DebConf, it would also be great) In short, • How expensive do we expect a night in Zagreb to be? • Any recommendations on hotels? (cheaply much preferred!) ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Accommodation for sponsored registration
Giovanni just apply ;) I was thinking, but before this we need to finish the process and finish the question are we going to extend the sponsored registrations until 19th as I'd be willing to write a blog post answering all the questions and mentioning many other details, organized transport and so on. How sponsorship works, who should apply and so on. As many people are really unaware of many facts and lack even general information. Adnan On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Velimir Iveljic velimir.li...@foolcontrol.org wrote: It seems i was miss understood here. I was talking in general, not pointing fingers on who won't be sponsored. Since i didn't know who Giovanni is and wanted to give a short answer to him, i wrote what i did. Please don't take it as a sing that i wanted to tell him that he doesn't even have a chance getting sponsored acc/food/travel or whatever he applied for. On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 1:12 PM, Amaya am...@debian.org wrote: Velimir Iveljic wrote: I meant, that if the person is not contributing to Debian/DebConf, it is not logical for her/him to be sponsored. We have had fully sponsored boyfriends girlfriends before, what is the policy this year regarding this? We should detail what people need to do if they are in this case, somewhere, maybe the wiki (i'm volunteering to do it once I find out what needs to be written there). Yes. We will sponsor them this year to, we have the means for it and it shouldn't be a problem. I was making an example about some X dude that heard about DebConf 3 days ago and wants to get on board just for the fun of it. Velimir Thanks! -- .''`. Hate's no fun if you keep it to yourself : :' : -- The life of David Gale `. `' `- Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Is arriving Friday 22nd ok?
And to make my point more clear, it's much easier for me not to have all this stuff which cost additional complications and work. It's much easier to just lean back and relax a bit, I as one of the organizers am trying to make this the best DebConf so far nothing more. And everything I promised so far, was fulfilled, so am bit hurt by words that what I said is bullshit Adnan On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 4:44 PM, Adnan Hodzic ad...@foolcontrol.org wrote: On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Holger Levsen hol...@layer-acht.org wrote: On Montag, 2. Mai 2011, Adnan Hodzic wrote: I said this before, and I'm saying it again, we *have* to be flexible with hotel dates, sorry, but this is *bullshit*. as the government will pay everything, we probably *can* be flexible. Which they are, so in last two lines you're apparently contradicting yourself? We have to come up with solution for this stuff. no. there is no problem. we are organizing a conference, we offer *free stuff* for *certain developers* provided they register *on time*. we dont have to give out candy. Mark my words and this is not the point, I never promised candy, but what if I get free beer? What I suggest to you, and generally global team is to get your hands dirty instead of just criticizing stuff *we* do. I'm tired of doing things done, and you guys criticizing it. Do whatever you want, I'm out of this topic. Adnan On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Holger Levsen hol...@layer-acht.org wrote: Hi, On Montag, 2. Mai 2011, Adnan Hodzic wrote: I said this before, and I'm saying it again, we *have* to be flexible with hotel dates, sorry, but this is *bullshit*. as the government will pay everything, we probably *can* be flexible. We have to come up with solution for this stuff. no. there is no problem. we are organizing a conference, we offer *free stuff* for *certain developers* provided they register *on time*. we dont have to give out candy. cheers, Holger, who would appreciate to get a reply on -team ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-team] dysfunctional team, how to proceed (Re: Is arriving Friday 22nd ok?)
I'll let Gunnar reply to the rest. It would be nice to hear someone else, as it all came out as internal conflict between you and I mixed with mild dosage of miscommunication. Adnan On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 5:38 PM, Holger Levsen hol...@layer-acht.org wrote: On Montag, 2. Mai 2011, Adnan Hodzic wrote: I may not be able to read/English or use logic, but I remember when DebConf11 bid was decided to be in Bosnia over Munich you left the channel, you weren't pleased by the decision. wrong. As I've said back then and several times since then I was unhappy about how the decission was made. Maybe you're still led by the same emotion as with your behavior you keep obstructing this whole bid. fantasy. I'll let Gunnar reply to the rest. ___ Debconf-team mailing list debconf-t...@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-team] Is arriving Friday 22nd ok?
Ah Gunnar Gunnar, sometimes your voice is the voice of reason and sanity :) Government can absorb the financial costs, maybe it does not really matter to us. But we cannot -organizationally- receive people arriving at arbitrary dates. We are organizing a conference, that has been run a certain way for many years, and and even if it does not make too much sense given we don't have to worry too much about money _this_time_, we cannot bend the process too badly - as we want people not to assume the same next years. We should keep DebConf what it has been, as it's the only thing we are able to sustain. The organizational cost should be obvious by now: The fact that we are arguing about what should be minor shows there is a nontrivial impedance, that we are failing to communicate. And we really need good communication. Adnan, I know the stress that can put in you trying to make your country shine, and trying to get us Debianers to love it. Really, I was in a very very similar position, and I also took many decisions on my own when we held DC6 in Mexico, because I felt I could judge situations and I could control things and all. And, I must keep recognizing, even though in the end the conference was quite successful, due to overconfidence we were very close to not having a conference at all! Please try to trust a bit more our gray beards... They have a reason to be gray after all :) Okay :) Mark my words and this is not the point, I never promised candy, but what if I get free beer? There Is No Such Thing As Free Beer. I know I was trying to say something else, meh completely out of context, please disregard this one. What I suggest to you, and generally global team is to get your hands dirty instead of just criticizing stuff *we* do. I'm tired of doing things done, and you guys criticizing it. Do whatever you want, I'm out of this topic. I do not feel there has been contradiction in this point. We have repeatedly asked you _not_ to offer things beyond what we agree as a _whole_ team. We have never had the strange local/global split we are having this year. We need to act as _a_single_ team. Decisions should be consulted and kept, even if some of us don't agree - And if you want to make registrations completely open, or you want to give Free Stuff™, or whatever... Please! We have to make it a joint decision. It's not just about DebConf 11 in Bosnia, which will rock and be great, but at keeping DebConf organizable for the future. I couldn't agree more, and there shouldn't bee any difference, one team, one goal. In general I hate to see when stuff divide especially without any apparent reason. But yes, I know what you wanted to say and I'll keep to stay in accordance with what is agreed. Thank you for your wise words Gunnar, Adnan On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 5:44 PM, Gunnar Wolf gw...@gwolf.org wrote: Adnan Hodzic dijo [Mon, May 02, 2011 at 04:44:04PM +0200]: I said this before, and I'm saying it again, we *have* to be flexible with hotel dates, sorry, but this is *bullshit*. as the government will pay everything, we probably *can* be flexible. Which they are, so in last two lines you're apparently contradicting yourself? Government can absorb the financial costs, maybe it does not really matter to us. But we cannot -organizationally- receive people arriving at arbitrary dates. We are organizing a conference, that has been run a certain way for many years, and and even if it does not make too much sense given we don't have to worry too much about money _this_time_, we cannot bend the process too badly - as we want people not to assume the same next years. We should keep DebConf what it has been, as it's the only thing we are able to sustain. The organizational cost should be obvious by now: The fact that we are arguing about what should be minor shows there is a nontrivial impedance, that we are failing to communicate. And we really need good communication. Adnan, I know the stress that can put in you trying to make your country shine, and trying to get us Debianers to love it. Really, I was in a very very similar position, and I also took many decisions on my own when we held DC6 in Mexico, because I felt I could judge situations and I could control things and all. And, I must keep recognizing, even though in the end the conference was quite successful, due to overconfidence we were very close to not having a conference at all! Please try to trust a bit more our gray beards... They have a reason to be gray after all :) We have to come up with solution for this stuff. no. there is no problem. we are organizing a conference, we offer *free stuff* for *certain developers* provided they register *on time*. we dont have to give out candy. Mark my words and this is not the point, I never promised candy, but what if I get free beer? There Is No Such Thing As Free Beer. What I suggest to you, and generally
Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-team] dysfunctional team, how to proceed (Re: Is arriving Friday 22nd ok?)
We cannot risk arriving at the point where the local team gets out of this topic and acts on themselves. We have friction? We must work on it. Because it's quite easy for _them_ to push _us_ out of orga. And that would be a disaster - I don't think it's far-fetched to say it could signal the end of DebConf as we know it. Don't walk that way. I agree, we mustn't let this happen, and from my point of view it's not even near of that happening. Adnan, the only point I'm trying to make here, and I hope you see my words as more understanding to the effort you are making, is that when we don't act decently coordinated... We fail. So, it could be easy for us to have a great and fun conference in Bosnia which carries the DebConf brand but is not really DebConf - We just have to step aside. But we want to keep it DebConf. And we want next and future years' DebConfs at a comparable level. so, yes, maybe you can see us as mediocre by not wanting a shining super-conf for 1500 attendees. But really, we are organizing what we know and what we can repeat elsewhere. I do understand what you're trying to say, and for this whole time I wasn't trying to make it anything but DebConf, if it's not DebConf then *we* fail. Of course we want DC11 to shine. But we don't want it to shine in a way different from our line of work. As it has been said, that's not the Debian way. We have to work together. *Agreed Please, both ends of this tension: Help us fix this before it ruptures further. I'm != tension, nor I started this and I'm all to have it as calm and settled as possible. In future I suggest we communicate more nicely to each other, as we're all overworked + we're discussing everything remotely so at the times our messages may not be conveyed the best way and the way we intended them to be interpreted. Adnan On Mon, May 2, 2011 at 5:55 PM, Gunnar Wolf gw...@gwolf.org wrote: [ Replying after reading Holger's handover of posting responsability ;-) ] Adnan Hodzic dijo [Mon, May 02, 2011 at 05:27:23PM +0200]: learn to read and/or english and/or logic. You said we have to do this. I said thats bullshit, but we probably could still do it. Of course you could, because in the end I'll end up being the one: you are doing what you want. When we start bulshitting each other we stop reading each other's argument. So, Holger, it's hard to be calm but you should do it. Yes, again speaking from the DC6 experience: It's very easy for Adnan to feel hurt by a seemingly innocent comment. He is putting quite probably full-time commitment for some time already, and won't be able to do much besides DebConf organizing from now until August. It can be pretty exhausting. So, if we detect communication failures, avoid making them bigger. (...) Do whatever you want, I'm out of this topic. you summarized nicely how I see this years DebConf team: dysfunctional. one important detail I see differently though: you are doing what you want, whatever we discuss on the list or in irc meetings, doesnt seem to be in your focus. it is impossible to work together like this. Our team is summarized by our work and our deeds, which talk for themselves. We cannot risk arriving at the point where the local team gets out of this topic and acts on themselves. We have friction? We must work on it. Because it's quite easy for _them_ to push _us_ out of orga. And that would be a disaster - I don't think it's far-fetched to say it could signal the end of DebConf as we know it. Don't walk that way. The reason I said what I said above is, because option of having people arrive early would be feasible from financial aspect, this topic has been around for months now, what seems to make it unfeasible is the work that it would be required from the team. That is disapproval from global-team, I'm fine with that, the less work, the better it is for us. I don't know what you were trying to achieve with this email, but no one will say work I or my team do is bullshit'. Adnan, the only point I'm trying to make here, and I hope you see my words as more understanding to the effort you are making, is that when we don't act decently coordinated... We fail. So, it could be easy for us to have a great and fun conference in Bosnia which carries the DebConf brand but is not really DebConf - We just have to step aside. But we want to keep it DebConf. And we want next and future years' DebConfs at a comparable level. so, yes, maybe you can see us as mediocre by not wanting a shining super-conf for 1500 attendees. But really, we are organizing what we know and what we can repeat elsewhere. Of course we want DC11 to shine. But we don't want it to shine in a way different from our line of work. As it has been said, that's not the Debian way. We have to work together. Please, both ends of this tension: Help us fix this before it ruptures further. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version
Re: [Debconf-discuss] DebConf videos on Youtube?
There is a GSoC proposal going on about reworking the hosting/presentation of Debian talks. Are the mentors the same persons as those working on this? Well I'd love to participate in GSoC, I'm just not sure I'll enough of time this year. And next year is my final uni. year so not sure if that will make me eligible for enrolling. Adnan On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 6:04 AM, Obey Arthur Liu art...@milliways.fr wrote: On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 12:02 AM, Victor Martinez victor...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 1:06 PM, Adnan Hodzic wrote: Hey, If anything it'll bring more publicity to Debian, and will bring the ideas we are discussing to a much broader audience. AFAIK the only way to access these videos now is by visiting http://meetings-archive.debian.net/pub/debian-meetings/ Either way, would like to hear your ideas on this one. Not long ago on d-video list where the discussion about Miro and probable changes on community pages and also if my memory serves right video.debian.net redirects to that more longer URL. There is a GSoC proposal going on about reworking the hosting/presentation of Debian talks. Are the mentors the same persons as those working on this? ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Attendee average age?
@Ralf, Thank you so much for this information, this is great! @Gunnar, Yea, at the times I said if I had to make a wild guess I said it would be ~30-35 @Arthur, Are they using age as a proxy metric for rowdiness/cleanliness? No, they just asked, had no particular reason. It was me that was curious, because I'm planning to have two seperate daytrips, just as organizing a concert specifically for DebConf attendees so for these kind of things age comes as a very important factor. Adnan On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:42 PM, Obey Arthur Liu art...@milliways.fr wrote: Are they using age as a proxy metric for rowdiness/cleanliness? ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Road trip to DebConf 11?
Love the idea, since Google Maps may won't give you directions to Banja Luka I advise you to use www.viamichelin.com to get your trip routes as it works perfectly. Good luck! Adnan On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 5:44 PM, Steve McIntyre st...@einval.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 03:06:53PM +, Steve McIntyre wrote: On Tue, Mar 08, 2011 at 01:35:37PM +, Steve McIntyre wrote: On Sat, Mar 05, 2011 at 01:08:04PM +, Steve McIntyre wrote: Hey folks, As DebConf is in Europe again this year, a group of us are considering doing the trip by road. Yes, we're probably mad but the trip to Extremadura was fun and we expect this to be as well! snip I'll put this in a wiki page at some point... http://wiki.earth.li/DebconfTravel2011 Ping? No more takers? Last call for people interested in the road trip from the UK. If you're interested, add yourself to the wiki page here. We'll be in touch next week to confirm, then it's time to start looking at: * hotel and ferry bookings * working out who's travelling in which car * insurance * logistics: motorway passes, low emissions zone passes etc. -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK. st...@einval.com I suspect most samba developers are already technically insane... Of course, since many of them are Australians, you can't tell. -- Linus Torvalds ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Motorbike trip to Banja Luka
Just saw Debian UK people organizing the same thing with cars. What to say except I love the ideas! From my side all I can say is since Google Maps may won't give you directions to Banja Luka I advise you to use www.viamichelin.com to get your trip routes as it works perfectly. Good luck! Adnan On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 9:20 PM, micah anderson mi...@riseup.net wrote: On Thu, 07 Apr 2011 18:06:04 +0200, Luca Capello l...@pca.it wrote: Is anyone else interested? I would be interested if you had a bike I can use! micah ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] DebConf videos on Youtube?
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 11:11 AM, Damyan Ivanov d...@debian.org wrote: I just checked and youtube didn't seem playable with the free gnash player. You may see this as a way to promote Debian via youtube, but I see it as a way to promote the non-free flash player :/ I don't use gnash nor do I use non-free flash player either, what I use is Chromium browser and www.youtube.com/html5 ... works like a charm. Iceweasel/Firefox4 can do this as well now. Adnan On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 11:11 AM, Damyan Ivanov d...@debian.org wrote: -=| Adnan Hodzic, Sun, Apr 03, 2011 at 10:34:51PM +0200 |=- On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 10:15 PM, Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk wrote: It might be possible to add them to YouTube as well, but I don't know how much value that would add. Well, with it being 3 most visited page in whole wide word I predict it wouldn't do any harm for Debian publicity and bringing it to the masses. I just checked and youtube didn't seem playable with the free gnash player. You may see this as a way to promote Debian via youtube, but I see it as a way to promote the non-free flash player :/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJNmYsnAAoJEOQbTFV/DYC+484P/0uU6z/WpNjQZeU/rzFOAf+v U/W2wQtsgQsi9ukBot9buWbcGdsRMLos8fFct5edI/isZnNMZTCY7g5EDTmoShd4 bopeFKI1MJWq8UPSjURVvFgzUfhGJXZXeH3xmbINSKwLElI3ueuSrnD5mmo9ozKO jhvYT4f6da/Xlr0tD/LBeA6l50vBtp5B7nPTrjhlSLAMJIxbOt9XX+jGgpDwj+6K QMwf+tkUqOY4sOqLNWY06oHW7B4YusTAm9rT3FKZPsR7FMSe8gdgX07+Y1x3ERsl DfHUy0L4v9rdDYnz64wllNqMv6KvgpUtXnHX3OPp5AAV9+v1iTnxfjvmYzMeQvt6 WBJ/b4p/MYelDXnCPIcbSbl69dtZKfg6+db/pYgJTbu9qAFQAMY4XR/YHUIowxDh dQfJrg8Qcxkr09ed97L3Oc8y+2xVvI8huCFiQmuDBpV/k15M2aW6VIGLysGv6zlj HziWx2wtWDjg3FskHIWrzIA3Hcw3WO4QI5YYxtF2UQWGE77g2fF5pvJNT+7KNvbM YLDG6ac0iwAlXi9uml1L/lMAeMY0kaLGrmPp+cO9cj7f236u9n4BZitJuybWmV54 +GE8xKZWAjBSKf4lKeSS3zxUksAQ76g4pLUXYKWLoTTj/gtxQ7pyttZjhM/h91J9 hSdC+sffXHpotGwUWSbg =fC/1 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
[Debconf-discuss] Attendee average age?
Hey, On one of my visits to Banja Luka, one of the hotels owners asked me what is the average age of DebConf attendees? This made me think about it, does anyone have any number on what could be/or what is the average age? Just curious, Adnan ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] DebConf videos on Youtube?
On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 9:46 PM, Ana Guerrero a...@debian.org wrote: Hi Adnan, have you read the YouTube terms of service? Ana I have, may I know which point concerns you? On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 10:15 PM, Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk wrote: Please discuss video issues on the debconf-video mailing list. I'm subscribed to too many lists, it was just a suggestion really. We actually have all the videos indexed on a Miro Community site: http://debian.mirocommunity.org/ I wasn't aware of this. It might be possible to add them to YouTube as well, but I don't know how much value that would add. Well, with it being 3 most visited page in whole wide word I predict it wouldn't do any harm for Debian publicity and bringing it to the masses. Adnan On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 10:15 PM, Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk wrote: On Sun, 2011-04-03 at 20:06 +0200, Adnan Hodzic wrote: Hey, I've had this idea for awhile now, but what do you think, that we upload all the videos from DebConf's to Youtube? Or have them uploaded to Youtube from now on? Please discuss video issues on the debconf-video mailing list. I know there's UbuntuDevelopers channel on Youtube http://www.youtube.com/user/ubuntudevelopers If anything it'll bring more publicity to Debian, and will bring the ideas we are discussing to a much broader audience. AFAIK the only way to access these videos now is by visiting http://meetings-archive.debian.net/pub/debian-meetings/ Either way, would like to hear your ideas on this one. We actually have all the videos indexed on a Miro Community site: http://debian.mirocommunity.org/ It might be possible to add them to YouTube as well, but I don't know how much value that would add. Ben. -- Ben Hutchings Once a job is fouled up, anything done to improve it makes it worse. ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Questions about Banja Luka
Speed traps are somewhat common, but the police is nice if you are nice to them. Common in urban areas, around schools and stuff like that. Adnan On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 3:32 PM, Velimir Iveljic velimir.li...@foolcontrol.org wrote: Hi, On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Alberto Gonzalez Iniesta a...@inittab.org wrote: How about speed traps? Are they frequent? How nice is the police if you get stopped for some reason? Yes, I fear the police more that other things in some countries. (Including those not tagged as dangerous countries). Speed traps are somewhat common, but the police is nice if you are nice to them. Just don't play tricks and act casual :) ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] A few Debconf questions
Do you have any idea what the schedule might be for that? What I'm trying to avoid is a flight that arrives in Zagreb after the last bus for the day has left. Meanwhile, I hope to get my air tickets soon because sometimes transatlantic flights fill up and prices go up. This shouldn't happen as we'll have a list who's arriving when, and we'll have clear idea if the bus can leave for that time period of a day. Of course depending on when's who arriving, in the peak when everyone is arriving there will be the most buses. Either way, don't worry :) Adnan On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 10:11 PM, John Goerzen jgoer...@complete.org wrote: On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 11:57:30PM +, Adnan Hodzic wrote: 3) How do I book a hotel room? Do I need to say I'm with Debconf somehow? We're planning to open registrations within 30 days, you'll be able to do it of our website (http://debconf11.debconf.org) Does that also hold if my company pays for my accomodation? (which may be possible here) volunteers are needed? Would she be able to eat the conference food if she volunteers in that way? Please add her under: http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf11/Teams#Volunteers Done. 5) Where can I find information on the costs and expense of the bus from the Zagreb airport to Banja Luka? Does it take me directly to the hotel area? We're planning to have free organized transport from Airport (Zagreb, Sarajevo) to (Venue) in Banja Luka. Do you have any idea what the schedule might be for that? What I'm trying to avoid is a flight that arrives in Zagreb after the last bus for the day has left. Meanwhile, I hope to get my air tickets soon because sometimes transatlantic flights fill up and prices go up. Thanks again! -- John ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] New Wiki page: DebConf11/FAQ
On the theory that if one person has a question, maybe some other people will too, I've collected up the questions I've asked about Debconf11 so far, along with answers, on the wiki here: http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf11/FAQ This is great! The work you done as well as the idea *thumbs up! Thank you to everyone that has been helping out. Hopefully organizing answers on the wiki is a way I can return the favor. :) I'd also like to make clear, just in case it wasn't, that I wasn't trying to claim that Banja Luka has any kind of safety problem, and in fact rather suspected that the sort of thing Maddog indicated was the case. However, those sorts of statement are out there in official places, and hearing directly from Bosnians is very helpful and goes a long way towards making DebConf11 inviting (and helping me convince others of that). Thank you. No problem, again feel free to ask any question. Adnan On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 9:47 PM, John Goerzen jgoer...@complete.org wrote: Hi folks, On the theory that if one person has a question, maybe some other people will too, I've collected up the questions I've asked about Debconf11 so far, along with answers, on the wiki here: http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf11/FAQ it's peppered with links back into the archives for this list. Thank you to everyone that has been helping out. Hopefully organizing answers on the wiki is a way I can return the favor. I'd also like to make clear, just in case it wasn't, that I wasn't trying to claim that Banja Luka has any kind of safety problem, and in fact rather suspected that the sort of thing Maddog indicated was the case. However, those sorts of statement are out there in official places, and hearing directly from Bosnians is very helpful and goes a long way towards making DebConf11 inviting (and helping me convince others of that). Thank you. -- John ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] New Wiki page: DebConf11/FAQ
Let me add, that in contrast to this, even official (Cyrillic) I'd still say that Latin alphabet prevails over Cyrillic. Even if it doesn't, let's say you're in a restaurant menu may be in Cyrillic (Bosnian) but there will be English translation. Adnan On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 11:48 PM, Velimir Iveljic velimir.li...@foolcontrol.org wrote: We all have the same language, but in Republik Srpska (of which Banja Luka is the Capital) Cyrillic alphabet is used in contrast to Latin alphabet that is used in the Federation of BiH. So the only difference is the alphabet :) I should add though, that everybody can read Latin alphabet (maybe a small population of older people can't). Velimir On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 11:08 PM, John Goerzen jgoer...@complete.org wrote: On 03/21/2011 04:51 PM, Velimir Iveljic wrote: Hi John, My answers to your questions may have been a little harshly formulated, but that was not my intention at all! Sorry if you understood them as being harsh! Not at all! It was very helpful and informative. I wanted to make sure that my questions didn't come across harshly either. This has, incidentally, reminded me of another question: is Bosnian the native language of most people in Banja Luka? I'd like to try to learn a few words at least before going there. -- John ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Thank you, organizers and volunteers and everyone
Looking forward to attend DebConf11, where probably say what? and what's that? will need to found a good counterpart (Zack and Biella, you know about that...). Can you please elaborate what was meant by this? Adnan On Sat, Aug 7, 2010 at 2:58 PM, Luca Capello l...@pca.it wrote: Hi there! On Fri, 2010-08-06 at 15:13 -0400, Lars Wirzenius wrote: Thank you, organizers, volunteers, and everyone else involved in the conference. I would like to join Lars and Jameson: being my first time in NYC (and in USA as well), I was very happy to be in the center of the city, surrounded by, first of all, friendly Debian people (developers, users and simple fans) and spending almost two weeks with them. Looking forward to attend DebConf11, where probably say what? and what's that? will need to found a good counterpart (Zack and Biella, you know about that...). Thx, bye, Gismo / Luca ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Group photo information
Is it possible for 7 Bosnians from DebConf11 team to all be in one corner/one spot, since we also have a Bosnian flag with us for the picture. Adnan On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Jameson Rollins jroll...@finestructure.net wrote: On Thu, 5 Aug 2010 16:39:47 -0400, Aigars Mahinovs aigar...@debian.org wrote: Summary: group photo is tomorrow at 11:30 on the main steps of the old library. Everyone must be there! Unfortunately, I will probably not be able to be there! Unless I decide to go on the lam, I have to show up for jury duty tomorrow. Is there any way for me to fleetingly elevate my status to something like that of the dean, and get a picture taken of me some other time, so that it can be pasted in after the fact? I want to be in the picture! jamie. ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Toy Story 3 anyone?
We're still in front of Alma Mare if there's any theater that's close to us and has screening showing this late, let's do it otherwise postpone it for some time tomorrow? Adnan Sent using Android (xperia x10) On Aug 5, 2010 9:33 PM, David Smith sidic...@gmail.com wrote: They're right at the corner of the steps by the Alma Mater statue.. Looks like the meeting is going to go long past 9:30 so I'm going to bed.. -David On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 8:42 PM, David Smith sidic...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 ... ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
[Debconf-discuss] Key signing
I obviously missed the deadline to register for this years key signing party, so is there's still a way for me to get to key signing party and get my key signed? Adnan ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Key signing
You can do it the good old way by printing fingerprints of your key and distribute them to ppl who are willing to do some keysigning (mostly ppl from the keysigning list plus other people who prefer not participating to the big signing stuff). That's what I was planning of doing, also is there any official debconf printers on the campus? If you want to also sign listed people's key(s), you should follow the instructions given in http://people.debian.org/~anibal/ksp-dc10/ksp-dc10.html , starting from On Thursday, 22th of July, 2010 you will be able to fetch the complete keyringthis way you can meet people on the list, have them confirm that they checked that their fingerprint in the list does match their keys' fingerprint...of course check their IDs and proceed to sign their keys. Right If all this is unclear, please ask me in real life (beer might help being clearer, at least in the beginning). Everything is much clearer now, you get a beer from me either way ;) Adnan On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 9:34 PM, Christian PERRIER bubu...@debian.org wrote: Quoting Adnan Hodzic (ad...@foolcontrol.org): I obviously missed the deadline to register for this years key signing party, so is there's still a way for me to get to key signing party and get my key signed? You can do it the good old way by printing fingerprints of your key and distribute them to ppl who are willing to do some keysigning (mostly ppl from the keysigning list plus other people who prefer not participating to the big signing stuff). If you want to also sign listed people's key(s), you should follow the instructions given in http://people.debian.org/~anibal/ksp-dc10/ksp-dc10.html , starting from On Thursday, 22th of July, 2010 you will be able to fetch the complete keyringthis way you can meet people on the list, have them confirm that they checked that their fingerprint in the list does match their keys' fingerprint...of course check their IDs and proceed to sign their keys. If all this is unclear, please ask me in real life (beer might help being clearer, at least in the beginning). ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] it is chilly in the hack lab
I personally think the temperature is just right. Especially once DebConf starts and once this whole place is filled with people/machines the temperature will be perfect. Adnan On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 1:44 PM, Judit Foglszinger fgr...@freenet.de wrote: We can try and we will but just in case we don't not succeed, do bring a sweater, long pants, socks, and whatever it takes to keep you warm. It is not horribly freezing but perhaps more chilly than expected. It got much better since the first day, people are actually sitting around here with t-shirts. ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
[Debconf-discuss] Nail clipper?
I'm truly sorry if this inappropriate. But can anyone please let me use their nail clipper? I'll be in hacklab1 and upper talkroom whole day today, it's really urgent. Thanks, Adnan signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Balkans?
Eddy, Then it's you and me, we'll keep in touch ;) Adnan On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Eddy Petrișor eddy.petri...@gmail.com wrote: Adnan Hodzic a scris: Hey Eddy :) Leaving from Romania on the 22nd, but I have a direct flight to Madrid. I am returning on the 30th, also directly, so maybe we can meet on the way from/to Madrid. I'll probably have a direct flight from Sarajevo/Zagreb/Belgrade all depending on lowest price. I got mine the same way :-), that's why I arrive on the 22nd (last day of DebCamp). Damyan and Eddy, I think the best idea would be to get each others flight information, that is that we all meet up in Madrid. Bus/Train to Caceres is kinda confusing to me as well, but we'll find our way there without any problems I'm sure. I agree, if at least one day overlaps ;-) . -- Regards, EddyP = Imagination is more important than knowledge A.Einstein ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Balkans?
Hey Eddy :) Leaving from Romania on the 22nd, but I have a direct flight to Madrid. I am returning on the 30th, also directly, so maybe we can meet on the way from/to Madrid. I'll probably have a direct flight from Sarajevo/Zagreb/Belgrade all depending on lowest price. Damyan and Eddy, I think the best idea would be to get each others flight information, that is that we all meet up in Madrid. Bus/Train to Caceres is kinda confusing to me as well, but we'll find our way there without any problems I'm sure. Adnan On Mon, May 4, 2009 at 2:29 AM, Eddy Petrișor eddy.petri...@gmail.com wrote: Adnan Hodzic a scris: Hello, Hi Adnan, I'm planning to attend Debconf, it may be too early but I'm trying to plan out my trip to Caceres. I'm from Bosnia and my question would be, is anyone from Balkans going to Debconf? Of course, and would like to meet up along the way. Leaving from Romania on the 22nd, but I have a direct flight to Madrid. I am returning on the 30th, also directly, so maybe we can meet on the way from/to Madrid. Options I'm considering are train or airplane. Even though plane straight to Madrid sounds too boring :) Other option I'm considering is group travel by train to Debconf I believe I could meet up with others in Wien (most probably). If there are any tips/hints you've got, please share, right now I just feel too remote. I'm am still concerned about the Madrid - Càceres part of the trip, I'd appreciate hits on that part, too. -- Regards, EddyP = Imagination is more important than knowledge A.Einstein ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Renting buses madrid-caceres and madrid-caceres
I would definitely be interested. Add me as well. Thought much more people would be interested in renting a bus Adnan On Mon, Apr 13, 2009 at 12:15 AM, Andreas Tille til...@rki.de wrote: On Sat, 11 Apr 2009, Ana Guerrero wrote: Would be interesting looking at renting buses for the way from Madrid to Cáceres and from Cáceres to Madrid? How much people would be interested in this? If we use all the seats in the bus, it should be cheaper than a regular bus and it is more comfortable going direct from the airport to the venue. I think at least for the departure is an interesting option to look at. I'd also think that departure is intersting (arival is probably split over to many different dates). But the lesson I learned in Mar del Plata is: It is *really* hard to join enough people for such a common departure (even if I really do not understodd why this is such a hard task to respond properly and in time to make ordering a bus possible). Kind regards Andreas. -- http://fam-tille.de ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
