[Debconf-discuss] Router lost, linksys wrt54gl
Hi, I've seem to lost my linksys wrt54gl, it has my name on it Velimir Iveljic. If someone found it, please leave it in hotel you are staying in, or the front desk in BD and contact me :) Thank you! -- Velimir ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] [Debconf-announce] News from the Rent a bus team
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Christian PERRIER bubu...@debian.org wrote: Please find below the current status of the rent a bus to avoid being stuck in BL operation. In short, if you don't bother reading, *everything is going well* (French version of there will be no problems). The wiki page (http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf11/Departures/RentABus) is no longer opened for registration. From the names and information we gathered, we have asked the local team to call the bus company and ask for two buses: - Bus 1 leaving at 06:00 and going to ZAG Airport, then ZAG train station - Bus 2 leaving at 11:00 and going to ZAG Airport, then ZAG train station We have assigned people in these buses as you can see on the wiki page. This was based on the time people wanted to be at destination: - people wanting to be in ZAG *before* 10:00 can't fit in these buses and will therefore have to travel their own way. Their names have been kept in the wiki page for reference - people wanting to be in ZAG between 10:00 and 14:59 have been put in Bus 1 - people wanting to be in ZAG from 15:00 have been put in Bus 2 - people wanting to be any time are in one or another, depending on the comment they put (explicitly asking early for sightseeing puts you in Bus 1) Once the buses are secured and we know prices, we'll let you know how to pay for them. It is very likely that we'll ask for payment in KM only to make things simple. Payment will be at frontdesk. We'll tell you when. DON'T GO AT FD NOW! Each bus will have two responsible persons in charge of checking people, take care that the bus leaves on time (WE WILL NOT WAIT), collecting passports at the border, etc. More information is to come. Please stay tuned on -announce. Comments on -discuss. On behalf of the RentABus team (Andreas Tille, Christian Perrier, Velimir Iveljic). ___ Debconf-announce mailing list debconf-annou...@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-announce Hi, i just want to confirm that we have reserved the buses. The buses leave from the same place we used for the Day Trip (bus station behind hotel Bosna). Since the first bus company canceled our reservations in last minute, i had to find another one. The only difference is the price which is now 500€ per bus. Velimir ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Conference Dinner!
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 4:16 PM, Thomas Koch tho...@koch.ro wrote: Velimir Iveljic: We are honored to organize the Conference Dinner in restaurant Integral (location is right across the govt. building on the 14th floor), which begins tonight at 20:00 hours. I'm here for the stupid questions... Which govt. building? Can you provide a link to a map? Merci, Thomas Koch, http://www.koch.ro Hi, We will all meet at 19:30 in front of the Venue (Banski Dvor), and go there together. -- Velimir ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] LAST CALL FOR DEBIAN BUS RENTAL
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 9:04 PM, Andreas Tille andr...@an3as.eu wrote: On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 08:57:22PM +0200, Gergely Nagy wrote: Out of curiosity, how much will the Debian bus cost per person, roughly? It was not yet mentioned because it depends from te number of people. As far as I remember a 50 seat bus costs 800KM That price is wrong. I've mentioned it in the other thread that the price for one bus to Zagreb airport is 952.80 KM. - so provided it is fully populated this would be 40KM for each passenger. Please add some uncertainity to this information. Kind regards Andreas. -- http://fam-tille.de ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss Velimir ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
[Debconf-discuss] Food, new rules AGAIN!
Hi, so as many people have noticed already, the food ticket system changes almost every day. In order not to break that tradition, we have new rules yet again! If you have not yet received your printed food tickets for the rest of the week, please do so after the dinner tonight or tomorrow in advance of lunch. Once you have received your printed food tickets, please exchange the relevant ones for each meal, at the Banski Dvor front desk. It does not matter if you are staying in hotel Bosna or not, please take food tickets at the front desk! The conference dinner tonight does not require a food ticket! Enjoy your meals and thank you for keeping up with this! ps nattie says hi :D -- Velimir ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] For those who care about the day trip
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Lionel Elie Mamane lio...@mamane.lu wrote: On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 11:34:47AM +0200, Moray Allan wrote: Please sign up so that we can get the right number of buses: http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf11/DayTrip The BBQ will be vegetarian-friendly, hmmm? Yes it will! :) -- Velimir ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
[Debconf-discuss] Food tickets!
Hi, From now on everybody needs to take their food tickets at the front desk and exchange those tickets at the hotel Bosna front desk for real food tickets. The reason for this, is that the hotel people are not checking the list of sponsored people that i gave them (well they do, but not always, so it's still bad for us9. Anyone without the debconf11 food ticket won't be able to get the real food tickets at the hotel. Sorry for the complications! -- Velimir ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] For those who care about the day trip
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Gunnar Wolf gw...@gwolf.org wrote: Raphael Hertzog dijo [Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 03:49:13PM +0200]: Will those of us who do not go there have access to the hacklabs and to the restaurant as usual? The hacklabs will be accessible, but -as in previous years- no DebConf food will be provided at the hotel restaurant. Of course, you are free to eat (paying) at the hotel restaurant, but you might want to enjoy another local place :) ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss I will provide brochures at the front desk so everyone who want's to eat in the city can take a look in them and see what available restaurants there are in Banja Luka :) Velimir ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Busses for departure
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 11:54 PM, Adam Borowski kilob...@angband.pl wrote: On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 06:46:21PM +0200, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 05:34:47PM +0200, Velimir Iveljic wrote: Got the offer from the autoprevoz.com However, I'm confused. autoprevoz.com looks like a domain squatting / attract traffic and show advertisements page (with under construction sign from Verisign and all that), so _which_ company did you get an offer from? It's .org, but it has no English version. Yet unlike most pages in slavic languages, somehow Google Translate copes with it pretty well. -- 1KB // Yo momma uses IPv4! ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss yeah, it's autoprevoz.org sorry :S Velimir ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
[Debconf-discuss] Day Trip
Hi, Tomorrow at 10:30 the buses will be waiting at the bus station behind hotel Bosna (just come to the back of the hotel, it's not hard to find). We will try to fill everyone who goes to rafting in one bus, so please try to get in one group if you are going there. Velimir ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Busses for departure
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 5:59 PM, Joachim Breitner m...@joachim-breitner.de wrote: Hi, Am Montag, den 25.07.2011, 17:34 +0200 schrieb Velimir Iveljic: The route that they calculated is some 380 km, and it's from Banja Luka to the Zagreb Airport (i asked for that route, as i presumed most will go there). a considerable number are taking trains from Zagreb, and even those who do fly, but depart much later than the arrival of the bus, might prefer to be dropped in the city to do sightseeing. If possible, please include a dropping point in the city center. Thanks, Joachim -- Joachim Breitner e-Mail: m...@joachim-breitner.de Homepage: http://www.joachim-breitner.de Jabber-ID: nome...@joachim-breitner.de ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss Will do ;) Velimir ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Busses for departure
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 3:08 AM, Martín Ferrari martin.ferr...@gmail.com wrote: Andreas, et al. I just wanted to point out that the company we contracted to come from Zagreb, were really friendly and helpful. They might have delayed us a little, but it was good overall. The price was 275 euro per bus that can carry 8 people. The company is connecto-taxi.com, phone +385 21 312 595, and they speak English. If you cannot fill an integer number of buses, there is taxis that costed 160 euro from Zagreb, and you can put 3 people on them. -- Martín Ferrari ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss Hi, I am contacting http://autoprevoz.org, but they are rather slow with emails. I called them again just now, and the lady on the phone promised to give me a detailed response in half an hour. If that doesn't happen, i am going to call them again and ask for the info directly! Stay tuned! Velimir ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
[Debconf-discuss] DemoFest in Banja Luka!
Hi, Every year, for the past 2 years, a music festival DemoFest is being held in Banja Luka. This year it is around the same time as DebConf and we are able to get some free tickets for our attendees. More info can be found here: http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf11/DemoFest On that wiki page is a list where you can put your name to if you want a free ticket. Rock on! -- Velimir ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Mobile UXes BoF
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 12:37 PM, Geert Stappers stapp...@debian.org wrote: On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 12:27:29PM +0200, Didier Raboud wrote: Hi all, I had registered the Mobile UXes BoF but couldn't get a slot for it. Now I am considering to use the additional meeting room to hold it. But??? I'm not really confident in hosting this BoF (beside that I never attended nor led one): many things have changed in the recent weeks (N9{,50} got presented, ???) and I could not keep the in contact with the recent MeeGo/Maemo developements. So my question is: do some people have an interest in holding a BoF about Mobile UXes ? (Even only to share impressions, knowledge and eventual plans.) I will attend a Mobile UXes BoF. More as a lurker then a leading person. Me too :) Groeten Geert Stappers -- And is there a policy on top-posting vs. bottom-posting? Yes. ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss -- Velimir ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Busses for departure
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 6:06 PM, Tom Marble tmar...@info9.net wrote: On 07/25/2011 10:34 AM, Velimir Iveljic wrote: Tell me what you think. Should i start with the reservations or..? Da! We will feel much better when our name is associated with a reserved seat on a bus that will leave at a specific time. NOTE: we may need to allow extra time for the 2 passport control points. Regards, --Tom ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss Can i meet with someone or more people in person so we could talk it over some more? Velimir ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
[Debconf-discuss] Lunch and Dinner location
Hi, Lunch and Dinner will be served in the same place we have breakfast for the next 3 days. After that it will continue as normal (same place as up until today). Enjoy your meals! -- Velimir ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Lunch / Dinner tips
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Daniel Kahn Gillmor d...@fifthhorseman.net wrote: On 07/20/2011 02:26 PM, Tiago Bortoletto Vaz wrote: In past DebConfs we have encouraged people to pay waiter/waitress tips even regarding sponsored meals. So this is just a reminder :) Local people say it's normal to pay about 10%. So, something near €0.75 should be fine, once each meal costs 7.5€ for Debconf. As someone who is also concerned about this, I asked some of the local team yesterday if/when/how much we should be tipping, and was told that there was no expectation or custom of a tip for meals in the hotel restaurant here. There is an expectation of a roughly 10% or 15% tip when buying drinks, at the hotel restaurant or in bars, though. I'm sure i'm not repeating their words exactly, but that was the general idea. Perhaps one of the localteam could weigh in on this and explain more precisely? Thanks, --dkg ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss Hi, As I've told Daniel, the hotel staff doesn't expect any tips for the meals, as they are usually included in the room price. If however, you want to tip, please do! Tipping for drinks you order is as anywhere else normal and 10% - 15% percent is ok. -- Velimir ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
[Debconf-discuss] Banski Dvor do's and don'ts
Hi, Everyone should try and stay away from the main talk room today, which is on the first floor. There is a concert tonight and the manager of Banski Dvor told us to keep away from the main talk room! It would be good if every body would just stay away from the ground floor for today except you know for sure what and where you are doing :) I will make a layout of the building rooms today, but until then please just use the space on the second floor. Also, the manager of the Banski Dvor told me, that everyone should at least have shoes on their feet, as Banski Dvor is a Culture Center of Banja Luka and we should respect that. Thank you! -- Velimir ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] DebConf dress code (was: Banski Dvor do's and don'ts)
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Giovanni Mascellani g...@debian.org wrote: Hi. On 18/07/2011 15:34, Paul Wise wrote: On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Jimmy Kaplowitz ji...@debian.org wrote: Question for Velimir: are casual/athletic but covered street shoes such as sneakers or running shoes sufficient to satisfy the Banski Dvor manager, or are formal business/dress shoes required? Sandals appear to be fine, I've been wearing them and received no comment from the reception guy. Since I'm planning to have sandals too, please let me know if there are problems with them. I can bring closed shoes too, but I'd like to know before leaving (which will occur on 23rd July). Thanks, Giovanni (who is looking forward to arrive to his first DebConf, but in the meantime has to finish to write his thesis). -- Giovanni Mascellani mascell...@poisson.phc.unipi.it Pisa, Italy Web: http://poisson.phc.unipi.it/~mascellani Jabber: g.mascell...@jabber.org / giova...@elabor.homelinux.org ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss Hi, I wont repeat what Jimmy said, all that is same here in Banja Luka. Any kind of shoes and clothes will do. The problem was that David was barefoot. I am sorry to impose this on you, i personally don't see a problem if someone wants to walk without shoes. Velimir ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] DebConf dress code (was: Banski Dvor do's and don'ts)
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 6:03 PM, Wookey woo...@wookware.org wrote: +++ Benjamin Seidenberg [2011-07-18 08:41 -0700]: On 07/18/2011 06:19 AM, Jimmy Kaplowitz wrote: In addition, in most parts of the US, it is not just a custom but a legal requirement to wear shoes (meaning at least sandals) in places that serve food - it is a violation of the health code for these places to allow customers who are not shod to enter. People are funny about feet. I've never understood why the bottoms of shoes are any more hygenic than the bottoms of feet. In fact the feet are less likely to be carrying significant amounts of dogshit. One wonders what the logic (if any) behind the above stipulation is? Are they worried about the food catching verrucas? It's not about that. Some people just think if you wear shoes that you are more integrated in the society. Which is stupid, but we can't do anything about it. (I used to habitually have bare feet, and very occaisionally was refused entry to places). Wookey -- Principal hats: Linaro, Emdebian, Wookware, Balloonboard, ARM http://wookware.org/ ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss Regards, -- Velimir ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Dinner!
On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Velimir Iveljic veli...@foolcontrol.org wrote: On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 4:47 PM, Velimir Iveljic veli...@foolcontrol.org wrote: Hi, Just a reminder that dinner is at 19:00h at hotel Bosna. See you all there! -- Velimir Forgot to include -discuss. So dinner at 19:00 at hotel Bosna! See you there! -- Velimir Everyone should go to the reception tell their name and they will receive a food coupon. This is a temporary solution for today. I will update you when we have something better figured out. Velimir ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Dinner!
On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 4:47 PM, Velimir Iveljic veli...@foolcontrol.org wrote: Hi, Just a reminder that dinner is at 19:00h at hotel Bosna. See you all there! -- Velimir Forgot to include -discuss. So dinner at 19:00 at hotel Bosna! See you there! -- Velimir ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
[Debconf-discuss] Food
Hi, just a quick announcement, Breakfast starts at 6AM and lasts until 10AM. Lunch starts at 12:30PM and lasts until 14:30PM Dinner starts at 19:00PM and lasts until 21:00PM Everyone needs to take food stamps at the reception before lunch and dinner (no stamps for breakfast needed). -- Velimir ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] late checkin at hotel
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 4:34 PM, Velimir Iveljic velimir.li...@foolcontrol.org wrote: On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 12:53 PM, Simon Kainz si...@familiekainz.at wrote: Hi, we'll be arriving at about 03:00 am by bus on 24th. Any ideas how to spend the very early hours? Any ideas which place to go? I thought about going for some drinks... ;-) Regards, On 2011-07-12 11:55, Velimir Iveljic wrote: On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Daniel Glassey dglas...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, A few of us will be arriving late in the day in Banja Luka - like arrving on the bus from Zagreb at 22:40 or 00:40. Is there 24hour reception and do we need to let the hotel know in advance? Thanks, Danie ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss I'll let you know soon(ish). (latest by tomorrow) Velimir ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss I think the receptions are open 24/7. I got that confirmed from hotel Vidovic. So anyone staying there is secure 100%. I'll let you know here when i have info on other hotels too. Velimir All the hotels have a 24/7 open reception, so no worries if you get there late :) Velimir ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] late checkin at hotel
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Daniel Glassey dglas...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, A few of us will be arriving late in the day in Banja Luka - like arrving on the bus from Zagreb at 22:40 or 00:40. Is there 24hour reception and do we need to let the hotel know in advance? Thanks, Danie ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss I'll let you know soon(ish). (latest by tomorrow) Velimir ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Telephone number
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 12:40 AM, Jeremy Baron jer...@tuxmachine.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 23:38, Philip Hands p...@hands.com wrote: [...] I've not so far managed to find an easy way to get hold of an inbound BH -- SIP service, but if anyone knows of such a thing we could do as we did last year and have the numbers forwarded to the front-desk and a selection of people's mobiles. So, if you know about SIP providers in Bosnia Herzegovina, pleas get in touch and tell me what's available. Failing that, we are supposed to be getting SIMs from a local mobile provider -- I suppose we could have one of them in a spare phone, and hand it round to whoever's on-call. Either way, as you say Steve, we need to get this sorted out before people start leaving home. Cheers, Phil. How about we failover to having a US or UK DID forward to local organizers/help line? -Jeremy ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss For the time being Vedran and me will put our numbers on the wiki, and work on the solution for later. Velimir ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Telephone number
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 1:19 PM, Moray Allan mo...@sermisy.org wrote: On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 12:01 PM, Philip Hands p...@hands.com wrote: I _think_ the US number was 02031378790 (or perhaps 1822026) but we'd need to check if these are still callable. If people will be calling this while travelling, a European number sounds more logical anyway. I still have access to the DC7 number in Edinburgh (+44 (0)131516875), which we could also use, although perhaps easier to request a new one From Gradwell, than to relly on a freebie from sipgate. Yes, though an Edinburgh number has the advantage of being amusing! Thinking of phones, EU-residents should note that as Bosnia is *not* EU, mobile roaming does not benefit from the EU price caps, but is rather more expensive. -- Moray ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss Would it be ok if i get one mobile number for this purpose? It costs about 20KM (10€) and we could just use that number, leave the phone at the front desk and be done with it? I could probably ask M:Tel to give us a SIM card for free (as they *promised* to give it to us anyway) Velimir ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] late checkin at hotel
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 12:53 PM, Simon Kainz si...@familiekainz.at wrote: Hi, we'll be arriving at about 03:00 am by bus on 24th. Any ideas how to spend the very early hours? Any ideas which place to go? I thought about going for some drinks... ;-) Regards, On 2011-07-12 11:55, Velimir Iveljic wrote: On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 10:02 AM, Daniel Glassey dglas...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, A few of us will be arriving late in the day in Banja Luka - like arrving on the bus from Zagreb at 22:40 or 00:40. Is there 24hour reception and do we need to let the hotel know in advance? Thanks, Danie ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss I'll let you know soon(ish). (latest by tomorrow) Velimir ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss I think the receptions are open 24/7. I got that confirmed from hotel Vidovic. So anyone staying there is secure 100%. I'll let you know here when i have info on other hotels too. Velimir ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Arrivals/Departures pages: should we keep the Shuttle column?
On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Christian PERRIER bubu...@debian.org wrote: I'm looking at: http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf11/Arrivals http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf11/Departures The shuttle column is probably misleading now that we know there won't be any shuttle service, except for very specific cases. So, what would you think of removing it, so that people are *not* mislead to think that there *are* shuttles? I prefer asking before just doing itjust in case someone thinks it should be kept for reference or something. An alternative is mentioning There won't be any Debconf-operated shuttles at the top of each section Without objections, I'll remove these columns today or tomorrow. I think it is safe to remove the columns right away, since the Shuttles are not going to happen. Velimir ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Debian Merchandising
2011/7/8 Axel Beckert a...@deuxchevaux.org: Hi, On Fri, Jul 08, 2011 at 02:20:21AM -0600, Marcelo Gutierrez wrote: 2011/7/7 Velimir Iveljic velimir.li...@foolcontrol.org If you have some other ideas, please share! Maybe someone could set up a wiki where: Please learn how to quote. The sentence Maybe someone could set up a wiki where: is not from Velimir. || X person || List merch you have to sell || Hotel Room number || e-mail || The wiki page you're looking for is http://wiki.debian.org/Merchandise And the list who will bring what is what you quoted in your full quote. I quoted the _relevant_ part for reference here again: On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 4:14 PM, Steve McIntyre st...@einval.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 01, 2011 at 12:25:02PM +0200, Luca Capello wrote: [...] DebConf11 is now two weeks ahead, so it is time to get things done™, so I would like to: - know if we plan to have a shop for the Debian Day to plan the merchandise needed. - send debian.ch merchandise at the beginning of the next week, thus I need a postal address in Banja Luka. Please note that there is a remote possibility that debian.ch stuff will arrive with someone from Switzerland, but this is far to be decided, yet. - order some Credativ merchandise which will must sent to Banja Luka (AFAIK Alexander Wirt is not coming to DebConf11, but I do not know for other Credativ guys), thus I need the same postal address as above... Is there any particular detail I should know for the shipments? I'm thinking we might also be able to squeeze in a box of Ts from the UK too, but not 100% sure yet. We'll also only be arriving late in the [...] Result of this thread was so far, that only Debian.ch will bring some merch for sure and possibly Debian UK will bring some, too, because no one could give us a postal address where to send the merch to in advance. I can find you an address where to ship the merchandise (local people). Give me a few hours. Velimir ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Debian Merchandising
Hi Luca, i'll check everything and let you know as soon as possible! On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 11:36 AM, Luca Capello l...@pca.it wrote: Hi there! Keeping the Events team cc:ed, dropping debian.ch. On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 16:33:45 +0200, Velimir Iveljic wrote: Can we organize a merchandise sales during Debian Day? Yes, we can. But we need to know if that is allowed (hint: behind authorisation, import/export and sale taxes) and what we want to sell: time is running up, especially if there is any material that must be shipped Europe- or world-wide. Thx, bye, Gismo / Luca ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] arriving on 23rd or 24th?
Hi Daniel, yes, the first day of sponsored food and accommodation is 24th. If you want to come earlier you should have a working plan for one for DebCamp. On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 1:28 PM, Daniel Glassey w...@debian.org wrote: Hi, Before I fill in the arrival/departure dates for sure, I'd like to confirm something. This appears different from previous years, but is the sponsored food and accomodation definitely only starting on Debian Day 24th July i.e. anyone arriving on 23rd July will need to pay full price for that night's accomodation? In that case, since I would arrive late in the evening anyway, I might spend the night in Zagreb and then try to join the morning arrivals at the train station. Thanks, Daniel ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] arriving on 23rd or 24th?
Well i guess it's another bug in penta :S But since the sponsored registration is over, you wouldn't be able to get it anyway (the 23rd sponsored). If you need more info please ask :) On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 6:55 PM, Goswin von Brederlow goswin-...@web.de wrote: Velimir Iveljic velimir.li...@foolcontrol.org writes: Hi Daniel, yes, the first day of sponsored food and accommodation is 24th. If you want to come earlier you should have a working plan for one for DebCamp. On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 1:28 PM, Daniel Glassey w...@debian.org wrote: Hi, Before I fill in the arrival/departure dates for sure, I'd like to confirm something. This appears different from previous years, but is the sponsored food and accomodation definitely only starting on Debian Day 24th July i.e. anyone arriving on 23rd July will need to pay full price for that night's accomodation? In that case, since I would arrive late in the evening anyway, I might spend the night in Zagreb and then try to join the morning arrivals at the train station. Thanks, Daniel Except if you enter the 23rd as your arrival date, select going to debcamp and add a work plan then pentabarf complains that the 23rd is (this date is after DebCamp ends, and you said you will attend DebCamp) (this date is outside the conference time span) MfG Goswin ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Debian Merchandising
Hi, Can we organize a merchandise sales during Debian Day? I would be willing to help (but not sell stuff myself, as i will be busy with other stuff during that day) with anything there has to be done! Please let me know if something like would be possible? Thank you! On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Luca Capello l...@pca.it wrote: Hi there! Please note that DebConf, while different, is another Debian event [1], thus the Events team should be notified of such merchandising stuff, at least to avoid duplicate efforts like in recent events. [1] http://www.debian.org/events/2011/0724-debconf On Tue, 14 Jun 2011 09:38:17 +0200, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote: i would be interested to know who brings what merchandising articles for Debian. I think it might be a good idea if we post such things already now to the ML, so potential buyers can already order stuff. Some of the debian.ch merchandise [2] will be there, at least Debian SpaceFun/squeeze T-Shirts, foilstickers and white umbrellas [3]. For the anarchism T-Shirts, I was planning to ask for a Credativ shipment, instead, because our stock is mostly finished and also because given that I am travelling by motorcycle [4] I will not have any extra space for merchandising. [2] http://debian.ch/merchandise [3] there was a problem in the production of black umbrellas, so, while we planned to have them for DebConf, unfortunately they will not [4] http://lists.debconf.org/lurker/message/20110407.160604.712bdd82.en.html For the Swiss Army knife we discussed at DebConf10 [5] and I announced early this year [6], debian.ch finally took contact with Victorinox: again, it would be very difficult to have them at DebConf11. [5] http://lists.debconf.org/lurker/message/20100803.011016.c8dbc810.en.html [6] http://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/%3c87tyg2g6ed.fsf%40gismo.pca.it%3e As a general policy similar to the umbrellas at DebConf10 [7], while the basic rule is first arrived, first served, I always prefer to give precedence to people living far away from the production site, mostly because shipping costs are usually higher for these countries. Obviously, this is in no way mandatory (even for myself). [7] http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf10/DebianUmbrella Best, Luca ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Arrival date for main conference
Hi Jonathan, The arrival date is on the 24th, as it's written on http://debconf11.debconf.org/dates.xhtml. If you want to come on 23rd you will need to submit a work plan for that day. Velimir On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 12:45 AM, Jonathan Wiltshire j...@debian.org wrote: I got almost as far as booking my flights and then noticed an inconsistency in the calendar compared to 2010 and 2011. Previously, the Debconf arrival date was on DebConf Day -1; that is, in 2010 it was Saturday 31st July and Debian Day was on the Sunday. That was consistent with 2009 also (I didn't look further back than that). The arrival date was also the first day of sponsored room and food. For 2011 the arrival day isn't clearly marked on the calendar [1] and the first day of sponsored room and food appears to be on Debian Day, Sunday 24th July. Therefore, should I infer that the arrival day this year should be Sunday 24th July and not Saturday 23rd July? 1: http://debconf11.debconf.org/dates.xhtml -- Jonathan Wiltshire j...@debian.org Debian Developer http://people.debian.org/~jmw 4096R: 0xD3524C51 / 0A55 B7C5 1223 3942 86EC 74C3 5394 479D D352 4C51 ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Accommodation for sponsored registration
Hi Giovanni, You can find more info about registration options here: http://debconf11.debconf.org/register.xhtml This means, you can apply for sponsorship, but it does not mean that you will get it. We have a team of people who decide if someone is eligible for sponsorship, by checking how much they contribute to Debian. We would love to be able to sponsor everyone who requests sponsorship, but it all depends on how much money we end up having for it. You can reserve Hotel Bosna by lover prices that we negotiated with the hotel management. Just say that you are going to attend DebConf. If you need more info, please ask :) Velimir On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 10:43 AM, Giovanni Mascellani g...@debian.org wrote: Hi all. This will be my first DebConf, so I'm seeking some information about how sponsored registration works. Searching on wiki or list archives didn't help. First of all, I'd like to know more about what kind of people are eligible for the sponsored accommodation: is it only for people that couldn't come to Banja Luka without it, or is it meant also for people (like me) that could afford the cost anyway, but with some difficulty? (probably the answer is: It depends on how much money we have; fine, the question turns out to be: Usually, sponsoring budget is enough to fulfill with type of requests?) Then, if I request the sponsored accommodation and my request cannot be satisfied, I of course have to book myself the hotel and everything. To keep the price low I'd probably choose some cheaper hotel than Bosna (such as Damjan). How much time before the DebConf I'll know of this? (it appears that Damjan doesn't have many rooms, so I have to book as soon as possible). Thanks, Giovanni. -- Giovanni Mascellani mascell...@poisson.phc.unipi.it Pisa, Italy Web: http://poisson.phc.unipi.it/~mascellani Jabber: g.mascell...@jabber.org / giova...@elabor.homelinux.org ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Accommodation for sponsored registration
I meant, that if the person is not contributing to Debian/DebConf, it is not logical for her/him to be sponsored. And yes, we plan to sponsor everyone who wants to have sponsorship, but paying for travel sponsorship is not sponsored by the govt. so we wont be able (or maybe we will, that's why i said it before, we don't know) to sponsor everybody who asks for it. Velimir On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 12:29 PM, Ana Guerrero a...@debian.org wrote: On Sat, May 07, 2011 at 11:55:13AM +0200, Velimir Iveljic wrote: Hi Giovanni, You can find more info about registration options here: http://debconf11.debconf.org/register.xhtml This means, you can apply for sponsorship, but it does not mean that you will get it. We have a team of people who decide if someone is eligible for sponsorship, by checking how much they contribute to Debian. We would love to be able to sponsor everyone who requests sponsorship, but it all depends on how much money we end up having for it. I don't get this. AFAIK, this year the lodging and food is sponsored by the bosnian goverment, and as long as we do not have a ridiculous big number of people, this stuff should be sponsored for all Debian contributors, no matter who contributes more or less :) Ana ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Accommodation for sponsored registration
It seems i was miss understood here. I was talking in general, not pointing fingers on who won't be sponsored. Since i didn't know who Giovanni is and wanted to give a short answer to him, i wrote what i did. Please don't take it as a sing that i wanted to tell him that he doesn't even have a chance getting sponsored acc/food/travel or whatever he applied for. On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 1:12 PM, Amaya am...@debian.org wrote: Velimir Iveljic wrote: I meant, that if the person is not contributing to Debian/DebConf, it is not logical for her/him to be sponsored. We have had fully sponsored boyfriends girlfriends before, what is the policy this year regarding this? We should detail what people need to do if they are in this case, somewhere, maybe the wiki (i'm volunteering to do it once I find out what needs to be written there). Yes. We will sponsor them this year to, we have the means for it and it shouldn't be a problem. I was making an example about some X dude that heard about DebConf 3 days ago and wants to get on board just for the fun of it. Velimir Thanks! -- .''`. Hate's no fun if you keep it to yourself : :' : -- The life of David Gale `. `' `- Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Accommodation for sponsored registration
We ask only Professional and Corporate attendees to pay, i don't what more you want to know about that? It's a way for people to help DebConf by paying for their acc/food etc. so that we have more money for other stuff (travel sponsorship etc.). I didn't have anything to do with penta so i can't say anything about it. I do agree that it is a little confusing for me to. Velimir On Sat, May 7, 2011 at 1:51 PM, Amaya am...@debian.org wrote: Velimir Iveljic wrote: Yes. We will sponsor them this year to, we have the means for it and it shouldn't be a problem. I was making an example about some X dude that heard about DebConf 3 days ago and wants to get on board just for the fun of it. Ok, then, why are we asking for 450€ for debcamp then? Does this need to be changed in penta? Also we used to have a field for BF and GF to say I am DD's SO. Where should this go in penta this year? -- .''`. Hate's no fun if you keep it to yourself : :' : -- The life of David Gale `. `' `- Proudly running Debian GNU/Linux ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Is arriving Friday 22nd ok?
I think we could get you a room on 22nd, but i am not sure how much you would have to pay for it. You can check the regular prices here: http://www.hotelbosna.com/hotele.html and in the mean time i will check to see if we can arrange something better (but it is not a promise!). I'll get back to you with more details. Velimir On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 6:15 PM, Nick Bane nickba...@gmail.com wrote: If I get a flight to Zagreb on Friday 22nd, can I check in a day early? The flights for me are much better than on Saturday. If that is easy I assume I pay a day rate at the hotel - if so, how much is that? ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Place for camper vans (or tents) near DebConf11?
I apologize for reacting late, but i was busy last few days. Regarding camping places, i will have to check with someone from Banja Luka and will give you an answer soon! Velimir 2011/4/8 Axel Beckert a...@deuxchevaux.org: Hi, I'm thinking about coming to DebConf11 with a camper van. Is there a place nearby the venue where you can stay with a camper van (or tent)? I haven't found any camping site information on http://www.banjaluka-tourism.com/index.php?option=com_sobi2catid=20Itemid=0lang=en or http://www.banjaluka-tourism.com/index.php?searchword=campingoption=com_searchlang=en so far. Kind regards, Axel -- /~\ Plain Text Ribbon Campaign | Axel Beckert \ / Say No to HTML in E-Mail and News | a...@deuxchevaux.org (Mail) X See http://www.asciiribbon.org/ | a...@noone.org (Mail+Jabber) / \ I love long mails: http://email.is-not-s.ms/ | http://noone.org/abe/ (Web) ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Questions about Banja Luka
Hi, On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 11:55 AM, Alberto Gonzalez Iniesta a...@inittab.org wrote: How about speed traps? Are they frequent? How nice is the police if you get stopped for some reason? Yes, I fear the police more that other things in some countries. (Including those not tagged as dangerous countries). Speed traps are somewhat common, but the police is nice if you are nice to them. Just don't play tricks and act casual :) ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Questions about Banja Luka
On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 5:34 PM, Adnan Hodzic ad...@foolcontrol.org wrote: I do that all the time, and that's why my licence is impounded most of the time. You could even offer them a bribe, if the digit is high enough they'll let you go. It's against the law to bribe them, but usually it works :) Or you could drive under 30kmh under speed limit, for example if speed limit is 60, you drive 89 and you're good with a ticket. I would strongly advise against any bribery! It may work for the local people, but if you are a foreigner you won't be able to understand a lot of the talk, and can only have trouble!!! Just drive in accordance to the law and all should be good :) Velimir ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Trouble to get a Visa for Bosnia
Hi Arne, We are already aware about 3 people who are from Taiwan and have this problem. We currently are working hard on making the registration happen asap, so are a little underwhelmed with work, but i promise after the registrations are open, we are going to help everyone that needs a Visa! Our goal is to try and help those people acquire Visas with as little trouble as possible. http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf11/Visas is the link where you can follow our progress regarding this issue. Stay tuned, we will try our best! Velimir On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 8:10 PM, Arne Goetje a...@linux.org.tw wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Hi all, my Taiwanese friends have some trouble in getting visa for Bosnia and I think it may affect other people too, if Bosnia does not maintain an office in their country. The problem is that they require that * the visa gets applied for in person * the visa gets applied between 30 and 3 days before the actual travel date * in case of Taiwanese passport holders, they need to apply in London, Budapest or Beijing, which requires additional travel, visa and accommodation. This is not feasible for at least the Taiwanese who want to attend Debconf, three of them being DDs. According to the Law on Stay and Movement of Foreigners and Asylum [1], there is an exception to these rules: - snip Article 36 (5-7): (5) Notwithstanding paragraphs (1) and (2) of this Article, where required for reasons of national security, humanitarian, serious professional or personal reasons, at the border post the Border Police may issue a short-term stay visa (Visa C) for a single entry of 15 days or a transit visa (Visa B) or an airport transit visa (Visa A) . (6) At the border post, the visa referred to in paragraph (5) of this Article may be issued only on condition that: a) the alien, notwithstanding the requirement of Article 19 (General entry conditions), paragraph (2), has met the basic and other general requirements for entry into BiH referred to in Article 19, paragraphs (1) and (3) of this Law, b) the alien has proved that he/she was unable to file a visa application in advance, and c) the alien has produced one or more documents proving an imperative reason for entry into BiH and providing guarantees concerning his/her return to the country of origin or the county of habitual residence. (7) In the event that the visa has been issued at the border post, the Border Police may order that the alien be allowed to enter BiH only at a designated border crossing. - snip Now I hope, that Debconf/Debcamp qualifies as serious professional reason. But it would be really helpful if we could get something official, which would ensure that we qualify for this exception and get the visa directly at the border (probably in Sarajevo airport). Could you help us with that? Cheers Arne (PS: Im German and don't need any visa. But I live in Taiwan and travel with my Taiwanese friends who do.) [1] http://msb.gov.ba/Zakoni/zakoni/?id=3512langTag=en-US -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJNk3IHAAoJENiwmJtstTzsiDIP+wUMk1XbbVAbo419cpxFkljH wkYsCjkZ6FnejF7cvJ7nvqezSJHPYKMAcWmdx1+lPHCvnJHukUEfDaUsgPhRNcvu JuGXGqgSUwTXIKq5Zd1tc2WT728BIHue0tpH0aIOk53lzgcS9O9QMiBLBsR8SpJS yhoie3RWcOFAeTQpfqLFQA2tKONIb8gSZiRYqfrse1t4dX7zZmB17TjTr5/FsfOw BpBmV3HBgBCY+oN0FTPktzz1+pSnHIQGjvVz2VkXCeGDBTuEvGzkwdQKEAwzsAl8 crqKHBZOsaWRjtOfqSNLLHvWiYJMmOV38hDqqNIfQSuktCaKEaeQ++fZXnFlfJmN SQA8JnyROcpkb5vh5qukDYOEP9MOmsB6Zo2YwJrbt+RhXk56Q41kbol/3G10DtTp d8flzewE77A3V+ipy1tXACg7UN0ymXASxfJNyNFx6oU7Q0rRD0mr1LtrfatgtOHU 3JY+QrWaOfGS72Y81tx0yBMNQzeR5uYpZZJB5ny8ZmBCrhdFv3ZmN3Wy1jM3w1tf wzyZ/9GblcJVuODPEFgLCEM9CPF78hcS4LtYTmNSnuM4IKXdXsPalpwEHeEzkWX5 JFedrJsL/sYKbl9u+zg5jMlIRKn6CuCeMTUFOy4VZJvEPgP5BpZuksJ0wsSBfQwp LfzqHW/aKwV89nRJmo62 =+400 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Questions about Banja Luka
Hi there, Ok i'll try and answer as much questions i can. If you have any more just ask them here. On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 4:03 PM, John Goerzen jgoer...@complete.org wrote: Hi folks, I'm excited about (likely) being able to get to Debconf11! As I'm starting to educate myself about traveling to Banja Luka, I of course started with the U.S. State Dept. info. I noted that American's don't need a visa for Debconf, which is nice. I also noted these sections: http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1070.html#safety OK. The land-mines problem exists, BUT only if you go to uninhabited areas (deserted/far away woods, deserted mountain fields, etc.) and all of the minefields are marked as such with red ribbon and text: MINE FIELD! DANGEROUS! Meaning, if you stay in the city and/or go mountain hiking where theres hiking roads, you are going to be safe from mines! I can not stress this enough, everyone attending DebConf11 in Banja Luka is safe from mines (except if you DO go to locations that are marked having mines there). Random violence is everywhere in the world, there is no way someone can tell you 100% that there is not going to be anybody pissed off at someone else at any given time anywhere on the planet. Bosnian criminals carry firearms, but so do american, german, finnish, japans, chinas, africans...you get the point. NO, it is not common that someone will bring a gun to your face and say give me you wallet. I can not guarantee it 100%, but again, nobody can and not just in Banja Luka! The events mentioned on the website above are true, but they were acts of terrorism, just like it happens everywhere in the world now days. It simply can not be guaranteed that it will not happen, but it IS highly unlikely to! http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1070.html#crime Again, if you act normal and don't give a chance to somebody, they can't rob you! Of course, if somebody tries to scam you and you don't recognize what they are trying to do, they will succeed! But this is not Banja Luka specific thing and i once more have to say, it can happen to you everywhere in the world, including your home town! Don't go to small streets with no lights, stay in crowded places, with some friends and you will be fine :) I would give this advice to anyone anywhere, not just if you are in Banja Luka. http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1070.html#traffic_safety Roads are the problem in BiH, but as you can see we all travel a lot! When i say the roads are a problem, i mean they are old and there is almost no highway. But when traveling with a bus, you are in no danger at all, since these buses go on a daily basis with no problems what so ever! The only drawback regarding roads and traveling is that it takes more time to get from point A to point B. http://travel.state.gov/travel/cis_pa_tw/cis/cis_1070.html#medical The medical system in BiH is done much differently than in the US. We have a social welfare here in BiH, it's what most of European countries have, although the quality is not as good! But still if you hurt yourself you definitely wont die, or be left without proper treatment. There is a hospital in every larger city in BiH, and since the Banja Luka is not that big it doesn't need 5 hospitals anyway. Rest assure, you will be taken care of! Check if your health insurance covers your time spent in BiH! They talk about things such as hand grenades being used by criminals, dangerous mountain roads, and possibly limited medical facilities. I don't want to take that information at face value or out of context, so I'm wondering if anyone in Banja Luka can comment on how much weight we should really put on those comments? I'm assuming that Debconf wouldn't be at an unsafe location, so I'm not being scared off by it, but more specific info from the local folks would be welcome. The bus ride form Zagreb hopefully wouldn't have these unsafe parts on it, and I'd be interested in what sort of medical facilities are available should anyone at Debconf need them. Thanks, -- John Goerzen We will provide everyone with a list of things you need to know once you get to Banja Luka, including ER, drug stores, police stations, etc. Additionally there will be a help desk with local people there, that can answer all of your questions and help you about anything you may need! Some additional security will be provided on the every DebConf11 location (accommodations, venue, etc.). We look forward to see you all in Banja Luka soon :) Velimir ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] New Wiki page: DebConf11/FAQ
Hi John, My answers to your questions may have been a little harshly formulated, but that was not my intention at all! Sorry if you understood them as being harsh! I was going to make the same wiki page you did tonight, but you beat me to it :) Thank you for helping! Velimir On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 9:47 PM, John Goerzen jgoer...@complete.org wrote: Hi folks, On the theory that if one person has a question, maybe some other people will too, I've collected up the questions I've asked about Debconf11 so far, along with answers, on the wiki here: http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf11/FAQ it's peppered with links back into the archives for this list. Thank you to everyone that has been helping out. Hopefully organizing answers on the wiki is a way I can return the favor. I'd also like to make clear, just in case it wasn't, that I wasn't trying to claim that Banja Luka has any kind of safety problem, and in fact rather suspected that the sort of thing Maddog indicated was the case. However, those sorts of statement are out there in official places, and hearing directly from Bosnians is very helpful and goes a long way towards making DebConf11 inviting (and helping me convince others of that). Thank you. -- John ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss
Re: [Debconf-discuss] Lost mobile phone
the phone is at the front desk! Velimir On Thu, Aug 5, 2010 at 1:00 PM, Richard Darst r...@zgib.net wrote: On Thu, Aug 05, 2010 at 12:57:22PM -0400, Michael Schultheiss wrote: I lost my mobile phone (Motorola Droid in a black leather case). I was last using it around 12:30 PM in/around Davis Auditorium. I may have dropped it while leaving DrDub's talk but when I went back when I noticed I didn't have it, I didn't see it. I was sitting in the row behind the primary video camera. If anyone found my phone, please let me know. found it, was cleverly hidden in she shadows. - richard -- | Richard Darst - rkd@ - boltzmann: up 380 days, 13:53 |http://rkd.zgib.net - pgp 0xBD356740 | Ye shall know the truth and -- the truth shall make you free ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss ___ Debconf-discuss mailing list Debconf-discuss@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-discuss