[Debconf-team] sponsorlogos sizes mismatch
Hi, the sponsor logos currently vary greatly in size. This is not so great. (Many steel+bronze sponsors logos are bigger than our gold and platinum sponsors.) So I was thinking we should define maximum sizes, but this is a bit difficult as some are wider than high and some are rather square/round. So we need something like: - not more than 4000 pixels. - not wider than 100 pixels - not higher than 100 pixels This would allow logos of 100x40 or 40x100 or 64x64. I've not looked how big the current logos are and I dont really care what we choose, but we *must* have them consistent. Can someone (yes, you!) please come up with realistic + workable maximums and adopt the logos in size? TIA! This should also be documented in a file in svn, probably next to the logos itself. cheers, Holger P.S.: on a related note, one logo has link-text below it. IMO we must remove this, or give all sponsors additional link-texts should they want to. I'm strongly in favor of removing this text. ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] sponsorlogos sizes mismatch
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 12:41 AM, Holger Levsen hol...@layer-acht.orgwrote: Hi, the sponsor logos currently vary greatly in size. This is not so great. (Many steel+bronze sponsors logos are bigger than our gold and platinum sponsors.) So I was thinking we should define maximum sizes, but this is a bit difficult as some are wider than high and some are rather square/round. Yes, indeed. It will be difficult to set arbitrary sizes for the logos but we can aim for maximum allowed sizes for each category. So we need something like: - not more than 4000 pixels. - not wider than 100 pixels - not higher than 100 pixels This would allow logos of 100x40 or 40x100 or 64x64. I've not looked how big the current logos are and I dont really care what we choose, but we *must* have them consistent. Can someone (yes, you!) please come up with realistic + workable maximums and adopt the logos in size? TIA! This should also be documented in a file in svn, probably next to the logos itself. Something like this? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21510751/sponsor_logos.png I have the svg sources, so I can volunteer for this task, resize all the logos and export them to a jpg/png format if someone else upload them to svn. Cheers, cheers, Holger P.S.: on a related note, one logo has link-text below it. IMO we must remove this, or give all sponsors additional link-texts should they want to. I'm strongly in favor of removing this text. ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf11-localteam] Network equipment
Also it would be nice to contact DIST (http://www.disti.ba/) they have few times helped in projects organised by LUG BiH (they borrowed us a PC's and other equipment on more occasions) and I believe they will help again if they can! ;) -- Nedim Skenderovic phone: + 387·61·821·675 mail: nedim.skendero...@gmail.com web: http://bfo.deviantart.com/ On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 8:54 AM, Adnan Sadzak sad...@gmail.com wrote: I'm ex Genelec employee and I can get anything. I have something of my own equipment 5-6 APs (mikrotik, TPLink), 24x 100Mbit switch, few crimp tools...I will check today how much WRTs I can borrow or rent here in my town :) Also I have contacts in many IT companies so I will call to check is there interest to support us with equipment. Cheers, Adnan Sadzak 2011/6/8 Adnan Hodzic ad...@foolcontrol.org: Out of the ones you listed I've got good contacts with Genelec. Adnan Sent using Android (Nexus S) On Jun 8, 2011 5:44 PM, Marinko Tarlać mangi...@gmail.com wrote: I'll see with Sarnet what can be done and do they have any equipment for this purpose. I'm not sure but I think they will provide a RJ45 socket and that is it. We need to find all other equipment. I wanted to say that devices which can support openwrt are not so easy to find here. As I know, the distributors are working mostly with Asus, Netgear, UBNT, D-Link and TP Link equipment. Flashing devices can be the problem (Warranty void if removed) so dealers won't be interested for borrowing. Building the permanent wireless network inside is a good idea but as I know the venue should be renovated next year. Also, the good idea would be to connect DIVA and dealers directly without any resellers between them (KIMTEC Vitez, PIN Computers Banja Luka, Genelec Tuzla, etc) so the the prices would be better (which means more money for food and beer :) ). On 06/08/2011 04:51 PM, Adnan Hodzic wrote: Also, have you talked to SARNET regarding this, they are the ones providing us with uplink, so they also might help us out with equipment. Marinko try contacting SARNET just say you're in front of DebConf11. Adnan On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Philip Handsp...@hands.com wrote: On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 15:23:17 +0200, Marinko Tarlaćmangi...@gmail.com wrote: OpenWRT APs are rare here and I'll see what can be found. Just in case you'd misunderstood -- they don't have to have OpenWRT on them when we get them -- we normally end up flashing them at the start of DebCamp, so they just need to be known to work with OpenWRT: http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/ I note that Torouter are focusing on this at present: http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/buffalo/wzr-hp-g300h which seems like a decent spec, but is perhaps more than we need -- on the other hand, if they don't cost too much more than whatever else we might buy, these will be worth keeping or will be tempting items to sell, or to give out as prizes at the end of DebConf. BTW would the government appreciate having the building wired for WiFi? If so, we could try to make a more permanent job of it. Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] http://www.hands.com/ |-| HANDS.COM Ltd. http://www.uk.debian.org/ |(| 10 Onslow Gardens, South Woodford, London E18 1NE ENGLAND ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team ___ Debconf11-localteam mailing list debconf11-localt...@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf11-localteam ___ Debconf11-localteam mailing list debconf11-localt...@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf11-localteam ___ Debconf11-localteam mailing list debconf11-localt...@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf11-localteam ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf11-localteam] Network equipment
* Amar Cosic amar.co...@gmail.com [2011-06-08 22:03]: Hello there must be at least 5 of WRT54GL available in every city in BIH. For ex. http://www.ingel.ba/ingelshop/product.php?id_product=155 ~85€ We can get them somewhere in EU for under 45. Might be possible to buy them there and bring them with one of the Debcamp attendees going by car in case purchase is an option. 2¢ Martin ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf11-localteam] Network equipment
I'm ex Genelec employee and I can get anything. I have something of my own equipment 5-6 APs (mikrotik, TPLink), 24x 100Mbit switch, few crimp tools...I will check today how much WRTs I can borrow or rent here in my town :) Also I have contacts in many IT companies so I will call to check is there interest to support us with equipment. Cheers, Adnan Sadzak 2011/6/8 Adnan Hodzic ad...@foolcontrol.org: Out of the ones you listed I've got good contacts with Genelec. Adnan Sent using Android (Nexus S) On Jun 8, 2011 5:44 PM, Marinko Tarlać mangi...@gmail.com wrote: I'll see with Sarnet what can be done and do they have any equipment for this purpose. I'm not sure but I think they will provide a RJ45 socket and that is it. We need to find all other equipment. I wanted to say that devices which can support openwrt are not so easy to find here. As I know, the distributors are working mostly with Asus, Netgear, UBNT, D-Link and TP Link equipment. Flashing devices can be the problem (Warranty void if removed) so dealers won't be interested for borrowing. Building the permanent wireless network inside is a good idea but as I know the venue should be renovated next year. Also, the good idea would be to connect DIVA and dealers directly without any resellers between them (KIMTEC Vitez, PIN Computers Banja Luka, Genelec Tuzla, etc) so the the prices would be better (which means more money for food and beer :) ). On 06/08/2011 04:51 PM, Adnan Hodzic wrote: Also, have you talked to SARNET regarding this, they are the ones providing us with uplink, so they also might help us out with equipment. Marinko try contacting SARNET just say you're in front of DebConf11. Adnan On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Philip Handsp...@hands.com wrote: On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 15:23:17 +0200, Marinko Tarlaćmangi...@gmail.com wrote: OpenWRT APs are rare here and I'll see what can be found. Just in case you'd misunderstood -- they don't have to have OpenWRT on them when we get them -- we normally end up flashing them at the start of DebCamp, so they just need to be known to work with OpenWRT: http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/ I note that Torouter are focusing on this at present: http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/buffalo/wzr-hp-g300h which seems like a decent spec, but is perhaps more than we need -- on the other hand, if they don't cost too much more than whatever else we might buy, these will be worth keeping or will be tempting items to sell, or to give out as prizes at the end of DebConf. BTW would the government appreciate having the building wired for WiFi? If so, we could try to make a more permanent job of it. Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] http://www.hands.com/ |-| HANDS.COM Ltd. http://www.uk.debian.org/ |(| 10 Onslow Gardens, South Woodford, London E18 1NE ENGLAND ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team ___ Debconf11-localteam mailing list debconf11-localt...@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf11-localteam ___ Debconf11-localteam mailing list debconf11-localt...@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf11-localteam ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Network equipment
* Martin Zobel-Helas zo...@ftbfs.de [2011-06-07 22:06]: we will need some network equipment for the our venue, mainly for video streaming, recording and local infrastructure (Front Desk PC). Where do we will get that best from localy? The current guess is that we will need around 1-2km of cables. Also some switches 100MBit or 1GBit would be a good thing. We have 2 unused Netgear 24 port 100 mbit/s + 2 gbit/s switches in the SIL Debian Rack in Vienna. Kind regards, MArtin ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] sponsorlogos sizes mismatch
Hi Leandro, On Donnerstag, 9. Juni 2011, Leandro Gómez wrote: Yes, indeed. It will be difficult to set arbitrary sizes for the logos but we can aim for maximum allowed sizes for each category. Yup. So we need something like: - not more than 4000 pixels. - not wider than 100 pixels - not higher than 100 pixels This would allow logos of 100x40 or 40x100 or 64x64. Something like this? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21510751/sponsor_logos.png yes!!! whats the sizes you're using? (so we can specify this for the future...) I have the svg sources, so I can volunteer for this task, resize all the logos and export them to a jpg/png format if someone else upload them to svn. yay! please do! cheers, Holger ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Network equipment
2011/6/9 Martin Wuertele mar...@wuertele.net * Martin Zobel-Helas zo...@ftbfs.de [2011-06-07 22:06]: we will need some network equipment for the our venue, mainly for video streaming, recording and local infrastructure (Front Desk PC). Where do we will get that best from localy? The current guess is that we will need around 1-2km of cables. Also some switches 100MBit or 1GBit would be a good thing. We have 2 unused Netgear 24 port 100 mbit/s + 2 gbit/s switches in the SIL Debian Rack in Vienna. I don't mean to criticize but 40 days from debcamp this should be already planed. Regards Kind regards, MArtin ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team -- Marcelo Gutierrez Team POSOL http://podcast.softwarelibre.org.ni Linux User: 448194 Ubuntu User: 26821 http://mmgc84.taygon.com ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] debconf11: please add sponsorship logo in debian.org site
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 8:52 AM, Leandro Gómez leo.tel...@gmail.com wrote: 138x55px banner: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21510751/sponsorship_138x55.png 112x45px banner: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21510751/sponsorship_112x45.png (I think) the idea was for you to make something to fill the space used on http://www.deb.at/ but with the I'm going to text and style, not simply the DebConf11 logo on a plain background. Thanks, -- Moray ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Network equipment
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Marcelo Gutierrez mmg...@gmail.com wrote: I don't mean to criticize but 40 days from debcamp this should be already planed. I can't see any content in your message except a criticism -- perhaps you accidentally deleted the constructive part before sending? -- Moray ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Network equipment
* Marcelo Gutierrez mmg...@gmail.com [2011-06-09 11:08]: 2011/6/9 Martin Wuertele mar...@wuertele.net * Martin Zobel-Helas zo...@ftbfs.de [2011-06-07 22:06]: we will need some network equipment for the our venue, mainly for video streaming, recording and local infrastructure (Front Desk PC). Where do we will get that best from localy? The current guess is that we will need around 1-2km of cables. Also some switches 100MBit or 1GBit would be a good thing. We have 2 unused Netgear 24 port 100 mbit/s + 2 gbit/s switches in the SIL Debian Rack in Vienna. I don't mean to criticize but 40 days from debcamp this should be already planed. And your point is what? 40 days is plenty of time to ship 2 switches ~700 km. Martin ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] sponsorlogos sizes mismatch
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 3:02 AM, Holger Levsen hol...@layer-acht.org wrote: Hi Leandro, On Donnerstag, 9. Juni 2011, Leandro Gómez wrote: Yes, indeed. It will be difficult to set arbitrary sizes for the logos but we can aim for maximum allowed sizes for each category. Yup. So we need something like: - not more than 4000 pixels. - not wider than 100 pixels - not higher than 100 pixels This would allow logos of 100x40 or 40x100 or 64x64. Something like this? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21510751/sponsor_logos.png yes!!! whats the sizes you're using? (so we can specify this for the future...) Platinum sponsors: Max. Height - 100px Max. Width - 220px Gold sponsors: Max. Height - 60px Max. Width - 200px Silver sponsors: Max. Height - 50px Max. Width - 180px Bronze sponsors: Max. Height - 45px Max. Width - 140px Steel sponsors: Max. Height - 40px Max. Width - 100px These specifications works well for this years sponsors. Not sure if it will fit DC12 as well, but it can be used as a reference? I have the svg sources, so I can volunteer for this task, resize all the logos and export them to a jpg/png format if someone else upload them to svn. yay! please do! Done! :) http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21510751/dc11sponsors.tar.gz ...and the svg file with all the logos in case something needs to be changed: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21510751/dc11_sponsor_logos.svg cheers, Holger ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] debconf11: please add sponsorship logo in debian.org site
2011/6/9 Moray Allan mo...@sermisy.org On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 8:52 AM, Leandro Gómez leo.tel...@gmail.com wrote: 138x55px banner: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21510751/sponsorship_138x55.png 112x45px banner: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21510751/sponsorship_112x45.png (I think) the idea was for you to make something to fill the space used on http://www.deb.at/ but with the I'm going to text and style, not simply the DebConf11 logo on a plain background. All right then, give me some time and I'll do it. Are the sizes ok? Thanks, -- Moray ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] Network equipment
2011/6/9 Moray Allan mo...@sermisy.org On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Marcelo Gutierrez mmg...@gmail.com wrote: I don't mean to criticize but 40 days from debcamp this should be already planed. I can't see any content in your message except a criticism -- perhaps you accidentally deleted the constructive part before sending? Hi there! please don't take this the wrong way. The thing is that I would be freaking out right now in this situation, it was late when I wrote it and maybe I was picturing Nicaragua :) I'm willing to help the networking team if you guys are ok about it. Cheers -- Moray -- Marcelo Gutierrez Team POSOL http://podcast.softwarelibre.org.ni Linux User: 448194 Ubuntu User: 26821 http://mmgc84.taygon.com ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
[Debconf-team] Ho Ho Ho
If doesn't make your day I don't know what will. Our gold sponsor Mtel has decided to give *every* DebConf11 attendee a phone number and package along with it! I got too excited so I'm not sure I got it right but I think this is the package they mentioned: http://www.mtel.ba/menu/2265 Comments? :) Adnan ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf-discuss] Ho Ho Ho
On 06/09/2011 12:58 PM, Adnan Hodzic wrote: If doesn't make your day I don't know what will. Our gold sponsor Mtel has decided to give *every* DebConf11 attendee a phone number and package along with it! I got too excited so I'm not sure I got it right but I think this is the package they mentioned: http://www.mtel.ba/menu/2265 Comments? :) Sorry, i don't really understand phone marketing, but i couldn't make head or tails of that page (other than that the models looked very excited to be not-talking to each other). Is it saying that each attendee will get a mobile phone running an all-free software stack? Lest this post be 100% snark, let me be more concrete: a) not every participant in debconf uses a mobile telephone b) mobile telephony at the moment enjoys an extremely tenuous (if not adversarial) relationship with the principles of free software (e.g. at least in the US, i have yet to see a functional, fully-free phone, for reasons i'm ill-equipped to explain). c) if debconf actively encourages the adoption of non-free tools, or actively excludes users who do not adopt non-free tools, it would seem to distance the conference from our mutually-held social contract. I would love to be wrong about (b) above. Regards, --dkg signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf-discuss] Ho Ho Ho
On 06/09/2011 01:24 PM, Moray Allan wrote: On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 6:13 PM, Daniel Kahn Gillmor d...@fifthhorseman.net wrote: c) if debconf actively encourages the adoption of non-free tools, or actively excludes users who do not adopt non-free tools, it would seem to distance the conference from our mutually-held social contract. Yes, but I really don't see that giving people a free mobile SIM would do that. Is that what is being offered? I actually don't understand what is being offered, so it would be good to get that clarified. Are these SIM cards that will work with any handset? Will they work with mobile modems known to work with Debian so participants can have untethered internet access without a non-free handset? If so, then i agree that the offer sounds much more welcome. Sorry to be such an ignoramus when it comes to mobile telephony, but having more specifics would help me understand whether this offer is in line with the DSC. I don't mean to be entirely negative: if MTEL has specific free software handsets or other end-suer devices that they recommend and/or fully support, i will be very happy about this offer. Or, at least, not any more than recommending they do anything other than walk to DebConf. I don't know of any trains/planes/bicycle manufacturers which we can guarantee only use free software, but we currently don't see it as breaking our principles to recommend using their products, or to use Debian funds to pay for their use. This is true. However, unlike transit, there *are* ways to do telecommunications (even mobile telecommunications) that use free software. Shouldn't debconf prefer them to the non-free platforms? --dkg signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf-discuss] Ho Ho Ho
Citando Daniel Kahn Gillmor d...@fifthhorseman.net: On 06/09/2011 12:58 PM, Adnan Hodzic wrote: If doesn't make your day I don't know what will. Our gold sponsor Mtel has decided to give *every* DebConf11 attendee a phone number and package along with it! I got too excited so I'm not sure I got it right but I think this is the package they mentioned: http://www.mtel.ba/menu/2265 Comments? :) Sorry, i don't really understand phone marketing, but i couldn't make head or tails of that page (other than that the models looked very excited to be not-talking to each other). Is it saying that each attendee will get a mobile phone running an all-free software stack? Lest this post be 100% snark, let me be more concrete: a) not every participant in debconf uses a mobile telephone b) mobile telephony at the moment enjoys an extremely tenuous (if not adversarial) relationship with the principles of free software (e.g. at least in the US, i have yet to see a functional, fully-free phone, for reasons i'm ill-equipped to explain). c) if debconf actively encourages the adoption of non-free tools, or actively excludes users who do not adopt non-free tools, it would seem to distance the conference from our mutually-held social contract. I would love to be wrong about (b) above. As I see they will provide a SIM card with a bunch of credits for DC11 people. Is that too bad? I think it's a good news for DC attendees and doesn't deserve complaints :) Regards, -- Tiago Bortoletto Vaz ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] sponsorlogos sizes mismatch
-=| Leandro Gómez, Thu, Jun 09, 2011 at 09:21:24AM -0600 |=- Platinum sponsors: Max. Height - 100px Max. Width - 220px Gold sponsors: Max. Height - 60px Max. Width - 200px Silver sponsors: Max. Height - 50px Max. Width - 180px Bronze sponsors: Max. Height - 45px Max. Width - 140px Steel sponsors: Max. Height - 40px Max. Width - 100px These work very good if the logos are all wide. The TK logo is tall, though and becomes really small compared to the others. Would it be better if we aim at total pixels used, with some bonus to the non-rectangular logos (google, hp)? In any case, I am ready to commit a logo update according to the above limits. signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] sponsorlogos sizes mismatch
2011/6/9 Damyan Ivanov d...@debian.org: Would it be better if we aim at total pixels used Yes. (I'd suggest just approximating it by width ⨉ height.) -- Moray ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf-discuss] Ho Ho Ho
On 06/09/2011 01:45 PM, Tiago Bortoletto Vaz wrote: As I see they will provide a SIM card with a bunch of credits for DC11 people. Is that too bad? I think it's a good news for DC attendees and doesn't deserve complaints :) I apologize for my knee-jerk response; i did not understand what was being offered. As some kind people explained the details to me on #debconf-team, what Tiago describes above sounds much more reasonable than what i initially understood. Thanks for lining up these offers, Adnan. --dkg signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] debconf11: please add sponsorship logo in debian.org site
2011/6/9 Gerfried Fuchs rho...@deb.at Hey, Leandro! Hey! * Leandro Gómez leo.tel...@gmail.com [2011-06-09 17:26:04 CEST]: 2011/6/9 Moray Allan mo...@sermisy.org On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 8:52 AM, Leandro Gómez leo.tel...@gmail.com wrote: 138x55px banner: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21510751/sponsorship_138x55.png 112x45px banner: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21510751/sponsorship_112x45.png (I think) the idea was for you to make something to fill the space used on http://www.deb.at/ but with the I'm going to text and style, not simply the DebConf11 logo on a plain background. All right then, give me some time and I'll do it. Are the sizes ok? Yes, those sizes would be perfect fit, thanks for jumping in so quickly! No problem. The banners are on the wiki now: http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf11/Artwork#113x45px_banners http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf11/Artwork#138x55px_banners ...and you grab the svg sources over here: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21510751/dc11_banner_03.svg Cheers, Enjoy, Rhonda -- Fühlst du dich mutlos, fass endlich Mut, los | Fühlst du dich hilflos, geh raus und hilf, los| Wir sind Helden Fühlst du dich machtlos, geh raus und mach, los | 23.55: Alles auf Anfang Fühlst du dich haltlos, such Halt und lass los| ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf11-localteam] Ho Ho Ho
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Adnan Hodzic ad...@foolcontrol.org wrote: If doesn't make your day I don't know what will. Our gold sponsor Mtel has decided to give *every* DebConf11 attendee a phone number and package along with it! I got too excited so I'm not sure I got it right but I think this is the package they mentioned: http://www.mtel.ba/menu/2265 Comments? :) Is this the package that mtel is offreing for every debconf11 attendee? http://www.mtel.ba/menu/2667/start_packages/?s=9v3f0oe4j7hnilqp1b4co1ac94 Regards -- Norman Garcia Aguilar ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] debconf11: please add sponsorship logo in debian.org site
On Wed, Jun 08, 2011 at 07:04:03AM +0200, Gerfried Fuchs wrote: * Stefano Zacchiroli lea...@debian.org [2011-06-07 08:54:23 CEST]: On the other hand, considering the short time frame from now to the conference, I'd have no problem in having a DebConf link (not mentioning sponsoring) pointing to the DebConf website. [..] Said that, moray mentioned yesterday that a I'm going to debconf kind banner would fit better to get the idea over to people who aren't aware (yet) what debconf might be, so what I did now on http://www.deb.at/ should still be improved on that grounds. Just FTR for those whose homepage is not www.debian.org, debconf 11 logo has been added, before we have a I'm going to debconf logo that fit. -- Simon Paillard ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] debconf11: please add sponsorship logo in debian.org site
Hey, Leandro! * Leandro Gómez leo.tel...@gmail.com [2011-06-09 17:26:04 CEST]: 2011/6/9 Moray Allan mo...@sermisy.org On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 8:52 AM, Leandro Gómez leo.tel...@gmail.com wrote: 138x55px banner: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21510751/sponsorship_138x55.png 112x45px banner: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/21510751/sponsorship_112x45.png (I think) the idea was for you to make something to fill the space used on http://www.deb.at/ but with the I'm going to text and style, not simply the DebConf11 logo on a plain background. All right then, give me some time and I'll do it. Are the sizes ok? Yes, those sizes would be perfect fit, thanks for jumping in so quickly! Enjoy, Rhonda -- Fühlst du dich mutlos, fass endlich Mut, los | Fühlst du dich hilflos, geh raus und hilf, los| Wir sind Helden Fühlst du dich machtlos, geh raus und mach, los | 23.55: Alles auf Anfang Fühlst du dich haltlos, such Halt und lass los| ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf11-localteam] Network equipment
I get OpenWRTs (more then 50), just need to select which works :) So for now we have 24x switch, APs, tools, cables... Do I need to search for gigabit switch (how many ports?) or more APs, or anything else we need? I did not find any details in DebConf 10 report, so any help would be appreciated. I am sure Disti would help, there is very nice ppl. Cheers, Adnan On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 9:54 AM, Nedim Skenderovic nedim@gmail.com wrote: Also it would be nice to contact DIST (http://www.disti.ba/) they have few times helped in projects organised by LUG BiH (they borrowed us a PC's and other equipment on more occasions) and I believe they will help again if they can! ;) -- Nedim Skenderovic phone: + 387·61·821·675 mail: nedim.skendero...@gmail.com web: http://bfo.deviantart.com/ On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 8:54 AM, Adnan Sadzak sad...@gmail.com wrote: I'm ex Genelec employee and I can get anything. I have something of my own equipment 5-6 APs (mikrotik, TPLink), 24x 100Mbit switch, few crimp tools...I will check today how much WRTs I can borrow or rent here in my town :) Also I have contacts in many IT companies so I will call to check is there interest to support us with equipment. Cheers, Adnan Sadzak 2011/6/8 Adnan Hodzic ad...@foolcontrol.org: Out of the ones you listed I've got good contacts with Genelec. Adnan Sent using Android (Nexus S) On Jun 8, 2011 5:44 PM, Marinko Tarlać mangi...@gmail.com wrote: I'll see with Sarnet what can be done and do they have any equipment for this purpose. I'm not sure but I think they will provide a RJ45 socket and that is it. We need to find all other equipment. I wanted to say that devices which can support openwrt are not so easy to find here. As I know, the distributors are working mostly with Asus, Netgear, UBNT, D-Link and TP Link equipment. Flashing devices can be the problem (Warranty void if removed) so dealers won't be interested for borrowing. Building the permanent wireless network inside is a good idea but as I know the venue should be renovated next year. Also, the good idea would be to connect DIVA and dealers directly without any resellers between them (KIMTEC Vitez, PIN Computers Banja Luka, Genelec Tuzla, etc) so the the prices would be better (which means more money for food and beer :) ). On 06/08/2011 04:51 PM, Adnan Hodzic wrote: Also, have you talked to SARNET regarding this, they are the ones providing us with uplink, so they also might help us out with equipment. Marinko try contacting SARNET just say you're in front of DebConf11. Adnan On Wed, Jun 8, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Philip Handsp...@hands.com wrote: On Wed, 08 Jun 2011 15:23:17 +0200, Marinko Tarlaćmangi...@gmail.com wrote: OpenWRT APs are rare here and I'll see what can be found. Just in case you'd misunderstood -- they don't have to have OpenWRT on them when we get them -- we normally end up flashing them at the start of DebCamp, so they just need to be known to work with OpenWRT: http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/ I note that Torouter are focusing on this at present: http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/buffalo/wzr-hp-g300h which seems like a decent spec, but is perhaps more than we need -- on the other hand, if they don't cost too much more than whatever else we might buy, these will be worth keeping or will be tempting items to sell, or to give out as prizes at the end of DebConf. BTW would the government appreciate having the building wired for WiFi? If so, we could try to make a more permanent job of it. Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] http://www.hands.com/ |-| HANDS.COM Ltd. http://www.uk.debian.org/ |(| 10 Onslow Gardens, South Woodford, London E18 1NE ENGLAND ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team ___ Debconf11-localteam mailing list debconf11-localt...@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf11-localteam ___ Debconf11-localteam mailing list debconf11-localt...@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf11-localteam ___ Debconf11-localteam mailing list debconf11-localt...@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf11-localteam ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] sponsorlogos sizes mismatch
2011/6/9 Damyan Ivanov d...@debian.org -=| Leandro Gómez, Thu, Jun 09, 2011 at 09:21:24AM -0600 |=- Platinum sponsors: Max. Height - 100px Max. Width - 220px Gold sponsors: Max. Height - 60px Max. Width - 200px Silver sponsors: Max. Height - 50px Max. Width - 180px Bronze sponsors: Max. Height - 45px Max. Width - 140px Steel sponsors: Max. Height - 40px Max. Width - 100px These work very good if the logos are all wide. The TK logo is tall, though and becomes really small compared to the others. Would it be better if we aim at total pixels used, with some bonus to the non-rectangular logos (google, hp)? My approach was to use the max. height as a reference if the logo was tall and the max. width if it was the opposite. Anyways, I agree with you that it's a better idea to use a total pixels count to determine the sizes of each logo. In any case, I am ready to commit a logo update according to the above limits. Nice! Thank you! :) Cheers, -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJN8QusAAoJEOQbTFV/DYC+fS0QAJXxH+7S86y/V8wJuM9Rt/8L VH06jeNDlitLi+M4kC0tk+Eumhm4y1Yk/Jd+EzGNlyxmREVLfQxxvfabNXarYvEJ tObNQoQ2mFzQrPCRD8hSJO4agNeVHOeGIFtVc2mmUj5/t96O1KgCYULQrA2ARpQj l6RJrxanRBTDq+VArWTjZhGLo5UtfpVKYx7Gx1lHLd9WewDuntOXcCb6lMD/Yk4Y bHtM71VKSFCGNmuBdraUMJfLDm95NdQQHc8FL+k58fdiD0gzrCjzleuFk8h6zdjG 8waixbBb7PyRySo73/dpibDxLLIfkg8NxRk4XlEQEQwzTpwHjW/43yWk4k+gyJop Wd0SKP7ajq6HUwzjUfcOFn5Glbfcyz+KT9z81cnS1kQL8b3f5FMHOV+qm/1ZcvyD UiCKGH1QmdVP4ayh716iRgsD0XTN2tO2cabuN9BPtJ34HrbXRIGDamtA2AHCjPPX JxtIXskbeWC5V+wCq4ZXx7VkaGrgvU+3DGwW+EqyCRV3CW+ZT9eWKn2uGt47iQZ4 GONdktjyV5n4qiXQPCb7evYWSp9iTshzdIpNwQh9xYl6O94Oq0LbmkwsmVktRmuz hKqvVeHwQwPxg4wjP91u9N6mjjwln23adW1kO4fjUpj0OwjKuhaRa8ntavxpvl90 AQ0lmZD0hj7eVjTsm+LB =ufwH -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf11-localteam] Network equipment
Hi, On Thu Jun 09, 2011 at 20:14:33 +0200, Adnan Sadzak wrote: I get OpenWRTs (more then 50), just need to select which works :) So for now we have 24x switch, APs, tools, cables... Do I need to search for gigabit switch (how many ports?) or more APs, or anything else we need? I did not find any details in DebConf 10 report, so any help would be appreciated. I am sure Disti would help, there is very nice ppl. I am not sure how much bandwidth we will need need for video raw data, but IMHO one or two switches with some gigabit uplink ports wouldn't be too wrong. If we can't organize them localy, i think i can bring some with me. Cheers, Martin -- Martin Zobel-Helas zo...@debian.org | Debian System Administrator Debian GNU/Linux Developer | Debian Listmaster GPG key http://go.debian.net/B11B627B | GPG Fingerprint: 6B18 5642 8E41 EC89 3D5D BDBB 53B1 AC6D B11B 627B ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf-discuss] Ho Ho Ho
Citando Martin Wuertele mar...@wuertele.net: Hi Daniel! * Daniel Kahn Gillmor d...@fifthhorseman.net [2011-06-09 19:40]: Is that what is being offered? I actually don't understand what is being offered, so it would be good to get that clarified. Are these SIM cards that will work with any handset? Will they work with mobile modems known to work with Debian so participants can have untethered internet access without a non-free handset? If so, then i agree that the offer sounds much more welcome. So you don't understand what the offeres but feel the need to rant about before finding out. Very mature He already apologize, twice and quickly. Sure, it's very mature. So please stop flaming. -- Tiago Bortoletto Vaz ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf11-localteam] Network equipment
Hi, On Thu Jun 09, 2011 at 20:14:33 +0200, Adnan Sadzak wrote: ... or anything else we need? Probably some (1-3) Desktop PCs would be helpful. We will for sure need one at frontdesk for registration, as well as a printer somewhere near frontdesk. Cheers, Martin -- Martin Zobel-Helas zo...@debian.org | Debian System Administrator Debian GNU/Linux Developer | Debian Listmaster GPG key http://go.debian.net/B11B627B | GPG Fingerprint: 6B18 5642 8E41 EC89 3D5D BDBB 53B1 AC6D B11B 627B ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf11-localteam] [Debconf-discuss] Ho Ho Ho
I think they will hand out so called FREND packages, they cost about 25euro here in retail. It is basically prepaid SIM with 2.5e credits, phone (Samsung or Alcatel or Huawei), charger, and instructions. Adnan, if you can, do ask for Alcatel because they are much more advanced than Samsung. They have SD card slot and camera, therefore I think they can be connected to laptop and act as a modem. You can use SIM card in any phone you want, but you cannot use other network SIM in the mobile phone you get (I can unlock them btw :]). Here's a pic: http://k.min.us/idm976.jpg -- Dejan Marjanović Webarto • web design + development http://webarto.com • i...@webarto.com +387 61 05 85 05 • +387 66 05 33 32 ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf11-localteam] [Debconf-discuss] Ho Ho Ho
It's hard to believe such chaos rose from Mtel's good intentions. Mtel is *only* going to give you a SIM card and what you get with it is phone number and XX minutes so you can talk to other people without them charging you and XX mb of data transfer (3g). You're not gonna get the actual handsets. They'll give it to us, it's up to you if you want to take it or not. You won't give any personal information once you get the SIM card, there are no obligations, it's just for you to be able to talk to each other via phone while you're here, that's it. Once you used all the data and calling minutes, you're out you can throw the SIM away. No contracts no nothing. They got onto this idea after DebConf11 trailer that is after Moray's and Holger's visit after discussion was started where you could get a phone number and some calling minutes. This discussion got to their CEO and in the end they decided they could give you away these phone numbers for free. This was their nice gesture, and if they heard about this whole topic and what was discussed in it they would prolly pull back the offer. I don't know if you can understand it or not, but no one is trying to impose something on you, no one is trying to sell anything you don't wanna buy, in plain English no one is trying to screw you over. Government, sponsors, local team and I are giving our best to provide you with experience you won't forget, but it seems to me the more good things we do you only take the wrong way. Get it into your head, we're not some banana country, we're on our way to make it into EU. One of the goals of DebConf11 is to break these stereotypes and whatever else it is. Moray and Holger were here, please ask them I'm sure they got here with certain level of prejudice, but ask them with what opinion and thought did they leave? In meantime do the reality check and just ... chillax. You have no idea how hard it's to work with unneeded situations like this one. If in doubt about something, talk to somebody else before just going mental on the mailing list. Adnan On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 9:23 PM, Dejan Marjanovic dejan.marjano...@gmail.com wrote: I think they will hand out so called FREND packages, they cost about 25euro here in retail. It is basically prepaid SIM with 2.5e credits, phone (Samsung or Alcatel or Huawei), charger, and instructions. Adnan, if you can, do ask for Alcatel because they are much more advanced than Samsung. They have SD card slot and camera, therefore I think they can be connected to laptop and act as a modem. You can use SIM card in any phone you want, but you cannot use other network SIM in the mobile phone you get (I can unlock them btw :]). Here's a pic: http://k.min.us/idm976.jpg -- Dejan Marjanović Webarto • web design + development http://webarto.com • i...@webarto.com +387 61 05 85 05 • +387 66 05 33 32 ___ Debconf11-localteam mailing list debconf11-localt...@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf11-localteam ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf11-localteam] [Debconf-discuss] Ho Ho Ho
This is a very good deal, since most of people who would come would probably buy expandable SIM cards so they can stay in touch with LOCAL TEAM or friends for low costs. And this is a free offer that you can accept or not, nobody is forcing you. so +1 for mtel and for their decision and also for Adnans efforts to keep things calm :) -- Nedim Skenderovic phone: + 387·61·821·675 mail: nedim.skendero...@gmail.com web: http://bfo.deviantart.com/ On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 9:58 PM, Adnan Hodzic ad...@foolcontrol.org wrote: It's hard to believe such chaos rose from Mtel's good intentions. Mtel is *only* going to give you a SIM card and what you get with it is phone number and XX minutes so you can talk to other people without them charging you and XX mb of data transfer (3g). You're not gonna get the actual handsets. They'll give it to us, it's up to you if you want to take it or not. You won't give any personal information once you get the SIM card, there are no obligations, it's just for you to be able to talk to each other via phone while you're here, that's it. Once you used all the data and calling minutes, you're out you can throw the SIM away. No contracts no nothing. They got onto this idea after DebConf11 trailer that is after Moray's and Holger's visit after discussion was started where you could get a phone number and some calling minutes. This discussion got to their CEO and in the end they decided they could give you away these phone numbers for free. This was their nice gesture, and if they heard about this whole topic and what was discussed in it they would prolly pull back the offer. I don't know if you can understand it or not, but no one is trying to impose something on you, no one is trying to sell anything you don't wanna buy, in plain English no one is trying to screw you over. Government, sponsors, local team and I are giving our best to provide you with experience you won't forget, but it seems to me the more good things we do you only take the wrong way. Get it into your head, we're not some banana country, we're on our way to make it into EU. One of the goals of DebConf11 is to break these stereotypes and whatever else it is. Moray and Holger were here, please ask them I'm sure they got here with certain level of prejudice, but ask them with what opinion and thought did they leave? In meantime do the reality check and just ... chillax. You have no idea how hard it's to work with unneeded situations like this one. If in doubt about something, talk to somebody else before just going mental on the mailing list. Adnan On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 9:23 PM, Dejan Marjanovic dejan.marjano...@gmail.com wrote: I think they will hand out so called FREND packages, they cost about 25euro here in retail. It is basically prepaid SIM with 2.5e credits, phone (Samsung or Alcatel or Huawei), charger, and instructions. Adnan, if you can, do ask for Alcatel because they are much more advanced than Samsung. They have SD card slot and camera, therefore I think they can be connected to laptop and act as a modem. You can use SIM card in any phone you want, but you cannot use other network SIM in the mobile phone you get (I can unlock them btw :]). Here's a pic: http://k.min.us/idm976.jpg -- Dejan Marjanović Webarto • web design + development http://webarto.com • i...@webarto.com +387 61 05 85 05 • +387 66 05 33 32 ___ Debconf11-localteam mailing list debconf11-localt...@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf11-localteam ___ Debconf11-localteam mailing list debconf11-localt...@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf11-localteam ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf11-localteam] [Debconf-discuss] Ho Ho Ho
On 06/09/2011 04:16 PM, Nedim Skenderovic wrote: This is a very good deal, since most of people who would come would probably buy expandable SIM cards so they can stay in touch with LOCAL TEAM or friends for low costs. And this is a free offer that you can accept or not, nobody is forcing you. I now understand specifically what is being offered, and what is being offered sounds reasonable to me. However, i hope that this is a free [gratis] offer that you can accept or not does not become a sufficient rationale for Debconf-related sponsorship. For example, were Apple to offer a gratis iPhone for all participants in debconf12, i hope there would at least be a debate about having that as part of the official sponsorship. If that's not far enough for you, what would you say about a gratis OEM Copy of Windows 7 Super Edition or the latest copy of Mac OS X Smilodon for all participants? Reasonable sponsorship feature? Please no. Thanks Adnan for working out a reasonable offer with a friendly sponsor. But there's no need to tell anyone to chillax, to refer to raising legitimate concerns as going mental, or to protest about how many bananas your country has :) I'm sure debconf11 will go swimmingly. Looking forward to July, --dkg signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf11-localteam] [Debconf-discuss] Ho Ho Ho
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Adnan Hodzic ad...@foolcontrol.org wrote: It's hard to believe such chaos rose from Mtel's good intentions. Mtel is *only* going to give you a SIM card and what you get with it is phone number and XX minutes so you can talk to other people without them charging you and XX mb of data transfer (3g). You're not gonna get the actual handsets. They'll give it to us, it's up to you if you want to take it or not. You won't give any personal information once you get the SIM card, there are no obligations, it's just for you to be able to talk to each other via phone while you're here, that's it. Once you used all the data and calling minutes, you're out you can throw the SIM away. No contracts no nothing. They got onto this idea after DebConf11 trailer that is after Moray's and Holger's visit after discussion was started where you could get a phone number and some calling minutes. This discussion got to their CEO and in the end they decided they could give you away these phone numbers for free. This was their nice gesture, and if they heard about this whole topic and what was discussed in it they would prolly pull back the offer. I don't know if you can understand it or not, but no one is trying to impose something on you, no one is trying to sell anything you don't wanna buy, in plain English no one is trying to screw you over. Government, sponsors, local team and I are giving our best to provide you with experience you won't forget, but it seems to me the more good things we do you only take the wrong way. Get it into your head, we're not some banana country, we're on our way to make it into EU. One of the goals of DebConf11 is to break these stereotypes and whatever else it is. Moray and Holger were here, please ask them I'm sure they got here with certain level of prejudice, but ask them with what opinion and thought did they leave? I appreciate the efforts of the local team and IMHO it's very nice to have such an offer from mtel. I also understand that you're under a lot of pressure with DebConf just around the corner and you guys don't really need the extra noise/rants on the list. But being a citizen of a banana republic I find your comments... well... how do I put it? Kind of racist and a bit ironic if your goal is to eliminate prejudices and stereotypes. In meantime do the reality check and just ... chillax. You have no idea how hard it's to work with unneeded situations like this one. If in doubt about something, talk to somebody else before just going mental on the mailing list. Adnan On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 9:23 PM, Dejan Marjanovic dejan.marjano...@gmail.com wrote: I think they will hand out so called FREND packages, they cost about 25euro here in retail. It is basically prepaid SIM with 2.5e credits, phone (Samsung or Alcatel or Huawei), charger, and instructions. Adnan, if you can, do ask for Alcatel because they are much more advanced than Samsung. They have SD card slot and camera, therefore I think they can be connected to laptop and act as a modem. You can use SIM card in any phone you want, but you cannot use other network SIM in the mobile phone you get (I can unlock them btw :]). Here's a pic: http://k.min.us/idm976.jpg -- Dejan Marjanović Webarto • web design + development http://webarto.com • i...@webarto.com +387 61 05 85 05 • +387 66 05 33 32 ___ Debconf11-localteam mailing list debconf11-localt...@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf11-localteam ___ Debconf11-localteam mailing list debconf11-localt...@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf11-localteam ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
Re: [Debconf-team] [Debconf11-localteam] [Debconf-discuss] Ho Ho Ho
El 9 de junio de 2011 17:58, Leandro Gómez leo.tel...@gmail.com escribió: On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Adnan Hodzic ad...@foolcontrol.orgwrote: It's hard to believe such chaos rose from Mtel's good intentions. Mtel is *only* going to give you a SIM card and what you get with it is phone number and XX minutes so you can talk to other people without them charging you and XX mb of data transfer (3g). You're not gonna get the actual handsets. They'll give it to us, it's up to you if you want to take it or not. You won't give any personal information once you get the SIM card, there are no obligations, it's just for you to be able to talk to each other via phone while you're here, that's it. Once you used all the data and calling minutes, you're out you can throw the SIM away. No contracts no nothing. They got onto this idea after DebConf11 trailer that is after Moray's and Holger's visit after discussion was started where you could get a phone number and some calling minutes. This discussion got to their CEO and in the end they decided they could give you away these phone numbers for free. This was their nice gesture, and if they heard about this whole topic and what was discussed in it they would prolly pull back the offer. I don't know if you can understand it or not, but no one is trying to impose something on you, no one is trying to sell anything you don't wanna buy, in plain English no one is trying to screw you over. Government, sponsors, local team and I are giving our best to provide you with experience you won't forget, but it seems to me the more good things we do you only take the wrong way. Get it into your head, we're not some banana country, we're on our way to make it into EU. One of the goals of DebConf11 is to break these stereotypes and whatever else it is. Moray and Holger were here, please ask them I'm sure they got here with certain level of prejudice, but ask them with what opinion and thought did they leave? I appreciate the efforts of the local team and IMHO it's very nice to have such an offer from mtel. I also understand that you're under a lot of pressure with DebConf just around the corner and you guys don't really need the extra noise/rants on the list. But being a citizen of a banana republic I find your comments... well... how do I put it? Kind of racist and a bit ironic if your goal is to eliminate prejudices and stereotypes. +1000 I undestand the stress you might have, but let's make some yoga and chill out. The worse is about coming. :) In meantime do the reality check and just ... chillax. You have no idea how hard it's to work with unneeded situations like this one. If in doubt about something, talk to somebody else before just going mental on the mailing list. Adnan On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 9:23 PM, Dejan Marjanovic dejan.marjano...@gmail.com wrote: I think they will hand out so called FREND packages, they cost about 25euro here in retail. It is basically prepaid SIM with 2.5e credits, phone (Samsung or Alcatel or Huawei), charger, and instructions. Adnan, if you can, do ask for Alcatel because they are much more advanced than Samsung. They have SD card slot and camera, therefore I think they can be connected to laptop and act as a modem. You can use SIM card in any phone you want, but you cannot use other network SIM in the mobile phone you get (I can unlock them btw :]). Here's a pic: http://k.min.us/idm976.jpg -- Dejan Marjanović Webarto • web design + development http://webarto.com • i...@webarto.com +387 61 05 85 05 • +387 66 05 33 32 ___ Debconf11-localteam mailing list debconf11-localt...@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf11-localteam ___ Debconf11-localteam mailing list debconf11-localt...@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf11-localteam ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team -- Rodrigo Isaac Rodríguez Borge* Nòmada: el artista de la multitud * Linux user # 471524 | Ubuntu user # 23047 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nomada ___ Debconf-team mailing list Debconf-team@lists.debconf.org http://lists.debconf.org/mailman/listinfo/debconf-team
