Processed: 757636 gnome-orca: Create a binding to speak the character where is the focus on

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Bug#757636: Re : Bug#757636: gnome-orca: Additional info

[MENGUAL Jean-Philippe]

Hi,

Actually it depends on the application you use. The behavior I describe mainly 
happens in Firefox. But may happen in Libreoffice as well. cf 
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/orca-list/2017-June/msg00089.html

Regards,


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- Alex ARNAUD  a écrit :
> Hello Jean-Philippe,
> 
> I can't be able to reproduce this issue. Could you provide us a 
> steps-by-steps procedure?
> 
> What I've done is :
> 1) Open Pluma
> 2) Open the Mate menu
> 3) Press escape
> 4) Read the current character with the flat review command
> 
> Result : Orca reads the current character. The flat review is 
> synchronized with the current focus.
> 
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Bug#757636: gnome-orca: Additional info

[Alex ARNAUD]

Hello Jean-Philippe,

I can't be able to reproduce this issue. Could you provide us a 
steps-by-steps procedure?


What I've done is :
1) Open Pluma
2) Open the Mate menu
3) Press escape
4) Read the current character with the flat review command

Result : Orca reads the current character. The flat review is 
synchronized with the current focus.


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Processed: 758433: Writer: speak the footnotes

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Bug #758433 [gnome-orca] Writer: speak the footnotes
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Bug#757635: marked as done (gnome-orca: Create a shortcut to set the speech volume)

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Package: gnome-orca
Version: 3.12.2-1
Severity: wishlist

Dear Maintainer,

*** Reporter, please consider answering these questions, where appropriate ***

   * What led up to the situation?

I try to change my speech synthetiser volume.

   * What exactly did you do (or not do) that was effective (or
 ineffective)?

I did via Preferences menu, Voice tab. Then I tried affecting a binding.

   * What was the outcome of this action?

This feature (increasing/decreasing volume) doesn't appear in the bindings list.


   * What outcome did you expect instead?

Both features should have a binding, linked or not.

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Versions of packages gnome-orca depends on:
ii  gir1.2-glib-2.01.40.0-2
ii  gir1.2-gtk-3.0 3.12.2-1+b1
ii  gir1.2-pango-1.0   1.36.3-1
ii  gir1.2-wnck-3.03.4.7-1
ii  gsettings-desktop-schemas  3.12.2-1
ii  python33.4.1-1
ii  python3-brlapi 5.0-2+b1
ii  python3-cairo  1.10.0+dfsg-4+b1
ii  python3-gi 3.12.1-1+b1
ii  python3-louis  2.5.3-3
ii  python3-pyatspi2.10.0+dfsg-1
ii  python3-speechd0.8-6
pn  python3:any
ii  speech-dispatcher  0.8-6

Versions of packages gnome-orca recommends:
ii  libgail-common  2.24.24-1
ii  xbrlapi 5.0-2+b1

gnome-orca suggests no packages.

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Version: 3.20.0-1

Fixed upstream.

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Bug#791892: marked as done (Writer: read and spell words in spellchecker)

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Package: gnome-orca
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Dear Maintainer,

*** Reporter, please consider answering these questions, where appropriate ***

   * What led up to the situation?
In the spellchecker dialogue.
   * What exactly did you do (or not do) that was effective (or
 ineffective)?
Tab to set focus on the spell error field.
   * What was the outcome of this action?
It reads only the contain of the field.
   * What outcome did you expect instead?
Read the contain of the field, spell the incorrect word, read and spell the 
sugestion. It could be good to have a shortcut to repeat this action.

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Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash
Init: systemd (via /run/systemd/system)

Versions of packages gnome-orca depends on:
ii  gir1.2-glib-2.01.42.0-2.2
ii  gir1.2-gtk-3.0 3.14.5-1
ii  gir1.2-pango-1.0   1.36.8-3
ii  gir1.2-wnck-3.03.4.9-3
ii  gsettings-desktop-schemas  3.14.1-1
ii  python33.4.2-2
ii  python3-brlapi 5.2~20141018-5
ii  python3-cairo  1.10.0+dfsg-4+b1
ii  python3-gi 3.14.0-1
ii  python3-louis  2.5.3-3
ii  python3-pyatspi2.14.0+dfsg-1
ii  python3-speechd0.8-7
pn  python3:any
ii  speech-dispatcher  0.8-7

Versions of packages gnome-orca recommends:
ii  libgail-common  2.24.25-3
ii  xbrlapi 5.2~20141018-5

gnome-orca suggests no packages.

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Version: 3.24.0-1

The new Orca release comes with a fix for this issue.

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Bug#667525: marked as done (gnome-orca desktop menu entry should only be visible in GNOME)

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Package: gnome-orca
Version: 2.30.2-2
Severity: minor
Tags: patch

*** Please type your report below this line ***
I use a system with both KDE and GNOME installed. As gnome-orca is 
almost useless

when running KDE, the desktop file should add the line
OnlyShowIn=GNOME
The attached patch fixes this issue.

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LC_ALL set to de_CH.UTF8)

Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash

Versions of packages gnome-orca depends on:
ii  libgail-gnome-module1.20.3-1 GNOME Accessibility 
Implementation

ii  libgnome-speech71:0.4.25-4   GNOME text-to-speech library
ii  python  2.6.6-3+squeeze6 interactive high-level 
object-orie

ii  python-brlapi   4.2-7+squeeze1   Python bindings for BrlAPI
ii  python-dbus 0.83.1-1 simple interprocess 
messaging syst
ii  python-gnome2   2.28.1-1 Python bindings for the 
GNOME desk
ii  python-gtk2 2.17.0-4 Python bindings for the 
GTK+ widge

ii  python-louis2.0.0-1  Python bindings for liblouis
ii  python-pyatspi  1.30.1-3 Assistive Technology 
Service Provi
ii  python-support  1.0.10   automated rebuilding 
support for P


Versions of packages gnome-orca recommends:
pn  gnome-mag  (no description available)
ii  wget  1.12-2.1   retrieves files from the web

gnome-orca suggests no packages.

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@@ -196,4 +196,4 @@
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Version: 3.22.2-3

The issue no longer appears because Orca no longer comes with a desktop 
file.


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Bug#706771: marked as done (gnome-orca: Shutdown manu in Debian 7 is inaccessible)

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Package: gnome-orca
Version: 3.4.2-2
Severity: normal

Dear Maintainer,

I cannot read the shutdown options in Debian 7 RC2. When i use my users menu in 
the top menu, navigate down to shutdown and press enter, i can't read anything 
more. Neither speech or braille is giving anymore output. Usually i just press 
enter again to shutdown the computer. 
But there is no possibility to choose reboot or what else is displayed in this 
dialog. Maybe there is a keyboard shortcut for the reboot option in this 
dialog. This would a workaround. 

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Locale: LANG=de_DE.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=de_DE.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash

Versions of packages gnome-orca depends on:
ii  gir1.2-gtk-3.0 3.4.2-6
ii  gir1.2-pango-1.0   1.30.0-1
ii  gir1.2-wnck-3.03.4.2-1
ii  python 2.7.3-4
ii  python-brlapi  4.4-10
ii  python-cairo   1.8.8-1+b2
ii  python-dbus1.1.1-1
ii  python-gi  3.2.2-2
ii  python-louis   2.4.1-1
ii  python-pyatspi22.5.3+dfsg-3
ii  python-speechd 0.7.1-6.2
ii  python-support 1.0.15
ii  python-xdg 0.19-5
ii  speech-dispatcher  0.7.1-6.2

Versions of packages gnome-orca recommends:
ii  gnome-mag  1:0.16.3-1
ii  wget   1.13.4-3
ii  xbrlapi4.4-10

gnome-orca suggests no packages.

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On Fri, 19 Dec 2014 23:39:56 +0100 intrigeri  wrote:

Control: tag -1 + moreinfo

Hi Jann,

Jann Schneider wrote (04 May 2013 15:51:38 GMT) :
> I cannot read the shutdown options in Debian 7 RC2.

Can you reproduce this on current Debian testing (Jessie) or sid?


You're correct, the problem doesn't appear on Debian 8.

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Bug#766701: marked as done (pidgin: orca always speaks messages)

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Package: gnome-orca
Version: 3.14.0-1
Severity: normal

Dear Maintainer,

*** Reporter, please consider answering these questions, where appropriate ***

   * What led up to the situation?

Orca 3.14 with a clean settings dir. MATE. notification-daemon usable.

   * What exactly did you do (or not do) that was effective (or
 ineffective)?

1. Run pidgin
2. Ins-ctrl-space, pidgin tab, set "Speak messages from" to "only one single if
the window is active"

If I put in the ~/.local/share/orca dir the pidgin.py, the problem is fixed.
Otherwise, only with app-settings/Pidgin.conf, it doesn't work.

   * What was the outcome of this action?


Orca goes on reading messages when they come, even if we go out the dialog
window.

   * What outcome did you expect instead?

Orca shouldn't read the messages coming in.

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Locale: LANG=fr_FR.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=fr_FR.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash

Versions of packages gnome-orca depends on:
ii  gir1.2-glib-2.01.42.0-2
ii  gir1.2-gtk-3.0 3.14.3-1
ii  gir1.2-pango-1.0   1.36.8-2
ii  gir1.2-wnck-3.03.4.9-2
ii  gsettings-desktop-schemas  3.14.0-1
ii  python33.4.2-1
ii  python3-brlapi 5.0-3
ii  python3-cairo  1.10.0+dfsg-4+b1
ii  python3-gi 3.14.0-1
ii  python3-louis  2.5.3-3
ii  python3-pyatspi2.14.0+dfsg-1
ii  python3-speechd0.8-6
pn  python3:any
ii  speech-dispatcher  0.8-6

Versions of packages gnome-orca recommends:
ii  libgail-common  2.24.25-1
ii  xbrlapi 5.0-3

gnome-orca suggests no packages.

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Version: 3.22.2-3

Dear all,

This issue has been solved by Orca and the problem no longer appear on 
Debian Stretch.


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Bug#706548: gnome-orca: No speech in login screen

[Alex ARNAUD]

On Mon, 02 Mar 2015 08:04:32 +0100 Odd Martin Baanrud  
wrote:

> Package: gnome-orca
> Version: 3.14.0-4
> Followup-For: Bug #706548
>
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
>
> Hello again,
>
> When lightdm starts at boot, I have both braille and speech output.
> However, when logging out, and the login screen re-appears, I only 
get braille output.


You could find a script written by Colomben WENDLING (b4n) that figures 
out this issue here : 
http://git.hypra.fr/hypra/mate-accessibility/blob/master/etc/X11/Xsession.d/01speech-dispatcher-pulseaudio-cleanup-with-session
Copy the file content into the file 
"/etc/X11/Xsession.d/01speech-dispatcher-pulseaudio-cleanup-with-session"


@Samuel: Do you think we could propose it into jessie update to solve 
the issue for all ?


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Bug#706544: marked as done (gnome-orca: No more braille output after restarting orca)

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--- Begin Message ---
Package: gnome-orca
Version: 3.4.2-2
Severity: important

Dear Maintainer,

When i run orca for the first time - after login - speech and braille both work 
fine. After restarting orca i have no more braille output anymore. 
I quitted orca by pressing Insert + Q and restarted it by pressing Alt + F2, 
typing in orca and pressing enter. 

NOTE: speech works fine as before, only braille support is affected. 


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Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash

Versions of packages gnome-orca depends on:
ii  gir1.2-gtk-3.0 3.4.2-6
ii  gir1.2-pango-1.0   1.30.0-1
ii  gir1.2-wnck-3.03.4.2-1
ii  python 2.7.3-4
ii  python-brlapi  4.4-10
ii  python-cairo   1.8.8-1+b2
ii  python-dbus1.1.1-1
ii  python-gi  3.2.2-2
ii  python-louis   2.4.1-1
ii  python-pyatspi22.5.3+dfsg-3
ii  python-speechd 0.7.1-6.2
ii  python-support 1.0.15
ii  python-xdg 0.19-5
ii  speech-dispatcher  0.7.1-6.2

Versions of packages gnome-orca recommends:
ii  gnome-mag  1:0.16.3-1
ii  wget   1.13.4-3
ii  xbrlapi4.4-10

gnome-orca suggests no packages.

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Version: 3.16.2-2

I can't reproduce this issue. I never use Orca 3.14 but the issue never 
appears on 3.16.


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Bug#706544: gnome-orca: No more braille output after restarting orca

[Alex ARNAUD]

Hello all,


I think this bug is not still alive on recent Debian version because lot 
of people use braille and restart Orca without encounter this issue on 
Debian Jessie and Debian Stretch.



I'll close it.


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Re: How long id Jessie supported?

[Simon Kainz]

https://wiki.debian.org/LTS


Am 2017-08-03 um 10:56 schrieb Alex ARNAUD:
> Le 02/08/2017 à 22:05, Mark Peveto a écrit :
>> I seem to be having much better luck with jessie than stretch.  How
>> long will jessie be supported?
>> thanks.
> 
> Jessie will be supported 5 years from the release date of 2015-04-26.
> 

Yes, you are basically right, 5 years covers the Jessie support,
including LTS.

The announced End-Of-Life date for Jessie is Jun 6th 2018 (see [0]),
after that, Jessie will get LTS (Long Term Support), see [1].


> Could you tell us why you couldn't use Stretch? It is important to fix
> bugs that could block a complete migration.

I fully aggree. If there are some bugs or issues you struggle with,
*please* report them or discuss/ask on the mailing list(s).
> 
> Best regards.

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> found 758434 gnome-orca/3.24.0-1
Bug #758434 [gnome-orca] Writer: Reading comments and modifications log
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Bug#758434: Re : Bug#758434: Re : Re: Bug#758434: Re : Bug#870366: libreoffice-writer: Comment text not accessible with screen reader

[Samuel Thibault]

MENGUAL Jean-Philippe, on jeu. 03 août 2017 11:18:22 +0200, wrote:
> - Samuel Thibault  a écrit :
> > MENGUAL Jean-Philippe, on jeu. 03 août 2017 10:47:23 +0200, wrote:
> > > Ok I understand. But then, how is it possible to tie link, gather, merge 
> > > them?,
> > 
> > Again, are these actually the same bug? If so, yes, they must be merged.
> > Otherwise they need to be kept seperate.
> 
> From a usability point of view, they are the same. From a technical point of 
> view, Writer does not send useful info to Orca, but Orca is not ready to get 
> it if sent (new dev would be needed in both packages).

Ok, so it's a bug dependency indeed.

Samuel

Bug#758434: Re : Bug#758434: Re : Re: Bug#758434: Re : Bug#870366: libreoffice-writer: Comment text not accessible with screen reader

[MENGUAL Jean-Philippe]

- Samuel Thibault  a écrit :
> MENGUAL Jean-Philippe, on jeu. 03 août 2017 10:47:23 +0200, wrote:
> > Ok I understand. But then, how is it possible to tie link, gather, merge 
> > them?,
> 
> Again, are these actually the same bug? If so, yes, they must be merged.
> Otherwise they need to be kept seperate.

>From a usability point of view, they are the same. From a technical point of 
>view, Writer does not send useful info to Orca, but Orca is not ready to get 
>it if sent (new dev would be needed in both packages).

> Now, if you want to make both the orca package and the libreoffice
> package aware of the issue, BTS' "affects" command can be used, to say
> that a bug in a package affects another package.

Probably the best practice indeed. 

> Samuel
> 

Bug#758434: Re : Re: Bug#758434: Re : Bug#870366: libreoffice-writer: Comment text not accessible with screen reader

[Samuel Thibault]

Alex ARNAUD, on jeu. 03 août 2017 10:59:14 +0200, wrote:
> Le 03/08/2017 à 10:56, Samuel Thibault a écrit :
> > MENGUAL Jean-Philippe, on jeu. 03 août 2017 10:47:23 +0200, wrote:
> > > Ok I understand. But then, how is it possible to tie link, gather, merge 
> > > them?,
> > 
> > Again, are these actually the same bug? If so, yes, they must be merged.
> > Otherwise they need to be kept seperate.
> > 
> > Now, if you want to make both the orca package and the libreoffice
> > package aware of the issue, BTS' "affects" command can be used, to say
> > that a bug in a package affects another package.
> 
> In bugzilla for example it is possible to make a bug depends on another one
> to be fixed.

Also, yes.

Samuel

Bug#758434: Re : Re: Bug#758434: Re : Bug#870366: libreoffice-writer: Comment text not accessible with screen reader

[Alex ARNAUD]

Le 03/08/2017 à 10:56, Samuel Thibault a écrit :

MENGUAL Jean-Philippe, on jeu. 03 août 2017 10:47:23 +0200, wrote:

Ok I understand. But then, how is it possible to tie link, gather, merge them?,


Again, are these actually the same bug? If so, yes, they must be merged.
Otherwise they need to be kept seperate.

Now, if you want to make both the orca package and the libreoffice
package aware of the issue, BTS' "affects" command can be used, to say
that a bug in a package affects another package.


In bugzilla for example it is possible to make a bug depends on another 
one to be fixed.


Best regards.
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Bug#758434: Re : Re: Bug#758434: Re : Bug#870366: libreoffice-writer: Comment text not accessible with screen reader

[Samuel Thibault]

MENGUAL Jean-Philippe, on jeu. 03 août 2017 10:47:23 +0200, wrote:
> Ok I understand. But then, how is it possible to tie link, gather, merge 
> them?,

Again, are these actually the same bug? If so, yes, they must be merged.
Otherwise they need to be kept seperate.

Now, if you want to make both the orca package and the libreoffice
package aware of the issue, BTS' "affects" command can be used, to say
that a bug in a package affects another package.

Samuel

Re: How long id Jessie supported?

[Alex ARNAUD]

Le 02/08/2017 à 22:05, Mark Peveto a écrit :

I seem to be having much better luck with jessie than stretch.  How long will 
jessie be supported?
thanks.


Jessie will be supported 5 years from the release date of 2015-04-26.

Could you tell us why you couldn't use Stretch? It is important to fix 
bugs that could block a complete migration.


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Bug#758434: Re : Re: Bug#758434: Re : Bug#870366: libreoffice-writer: Comment text not accessible with screen reader

[MENGUAL Jean-Philippe]

Ok I understand. But then, how is it possible to tie link, gather, merge them?,


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- Alex ARNAUD  a écrit :
> Le 02/08/2017 à 21:07, Samuel Thibault a écrit :
> > MENGUAL Jean-Philippe, on mar. 01 août 2017 15:26:16 +0200, wrote:
> >> I had submitted a similar bug related to gnome-orca:
> >> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=758434
> >>
> >> When I did we did not have explanations about origin of the bug, etc. 
> >> Maybe we should merge them, or close the gnome-orca one, or reaffect orca 
> >> ont to it?
> > 
> > It depends whether it's actually the same bug (then merge) or not (then
> > not merge).
> > 
> > Reaffecting bugs can be useful, depending who you want to get the
> > attention of on the bug.
> 
> We should keep the two bugs. Nothing tells us when LibreOffice will 
> implement the comment feature Orca will work. Maybe a work should be 
> made into Orca to take into account the new LibreOffice feature.
> 
> Best regards.
> -- 
> Alex ARNAUD
> Visual-Impairment Project Manager
> Hypra - "Humanizing technology"

Bug#758434: Re : Bug#870366: libreoffice-writer: Comment text not accessible with screen reader

[Alex ARNAUD]

Le 02/08/2017 à 21:07, Samuel Thibault a écrit :

MENGUAL Jean-Philippe, on mar. 01 août 2017 15:26:16 +0200, wrote:

I had submitted a similar bug related to gnome-orca:
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=758434

When I did we did not have explanations about origin of the bug, etc. Maybe we 
should merge them, or close the gnome-orca one, or reaffect orca ont to it?


It depends whether it's actually the same bug (then merge) or not (then
not merge).

Reaffecting bugs can be useful, depending who you want to get the
attention of on the bug.


We should keep the two bugs. Nothing tells us when LibreOffice will 
implement the comment feature Orca will work. Maybe a work should be 
made into Orca to take into account the new LibreOffice feature.


Best regards.
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Alex ARNAUD
Visual-Impairment Project Manager
Hypra - "Humanizing technology"