Re: Introduction and using Orca with Debian sound systems

[Cindy-Sue Causey]

On 3/18/18, Keith Barrett  wrote:
>
> On 18/03/18 07:15, john doe wrote:
>> Hi James, I'm sending this e-mail through the list in the hope that this
>> nasty bug will be fixed once and for all.
>>
>> On 3/17/2018 5:54 PM, James AUSTIN wrote:
>>> Hi John
>>>
 On 17 Mar 2018, at 14:30, john doe  wrote:
 If you don't start orca is speakup speaking?
>>>
>>> Yes, Speakup speaks under the text console (CTRL+ALT+F1 etc). Orca
>>> does not speak under the MATE desktop.
>>>
 It looks like it's the pulse audio bug back again.
>>>
>>> Yes that is my conclusion also. I thought that this particular bug had
>>> been squashed years ago
>> Sadly, this bug is still relevent.
>>

 Basically, if orca is speaking, speakup won't speak!!! :)
>>>
>>> The only way i have managed to achieve is by setting speechd.conf to
>>> use ALSA, but I do not want to have to reset speechd.conf each time I
>>> want to s between the two Screen Readers. Is there a better way?
>>
>> Not that I know of.
> The only way I know is to remove pulseaudio completely, then speakup and
> orca work as expected.
> In my case I set the audio output to libao in
> /etc/speech-dispatcher/speechd.conf and all works for me.


I've seen users have to delete Pulseaudio due to various issues of
incompatibility through the last few years. If anyone decides to try
that option, please make sure that your favorite package manager, e.g.
apt, apt-get, or aptitude, does not try to delete half, if not more,
of your other software packages at the same time. Just make sure that
your favorite package manager confirms that you're only deleting
exactly what you expect to have deleted.

No, I don't know that Pulseaudio will try to delete more than just
itself, but I *have* seen packages try to take out almost the whole
system. I consciously worry about users with disabilities possibly not
catching that particular point more than almost any other thing within
Debian because recovering would be difficult if too many packages ever
did get accidentally deleted..

Cindy :)
-- 
Cindy-Sue Causey
Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA

* runs with duct tape *

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Re: Introduction and using Orca with Debian sound systems

[Jude DaShiell]

It's possible to write scripts for both screen readers and do the switch 
inside those scripts before each screen reader is run.


On Sun, 18 Mar 2018, Keith Barrett wrote:


Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2018 08:33:18
From: Keith Barrett 
To: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Introduction and using Orca with Debian sound systems
Resent-Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2018 12:49:33 + (UTC)
Resent-From: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org



On 18/03/18 07:15, john doe wrote:

 Hi James, I'm sending this e-mail through the list in the hope that this
 nasty bug will be fixed once and for all.

 On 3/17/2018 5:54 PM, James AUSTIN wrote:

 Hi John




 On 17 Mar 2018, at 14:30, john doe  wrote:

 If you don't start orca is speakup speaking?


 Yes, Speakup speaks under the text console (CTRL+ALT+F1 etc). Orca does
 not speak under the MATE desktop.


 It looks like it's the pulse audio bug back again.


 Yes that is my conclusion also. I thought that this particular bug had
 been squashed years ago

 Sadly, this bug is still relevent.



 Basically, if orca is speaking, speakup won't speak!!! :)


 The only way i have managed to achieve is by setting speechd.conf to use
 ALSA, but I do not want to have to reset speechd.conf each time I want to
 s between the two Screen Readers. Is there a better way?


 Not that I know of.
The only way I know is to remove pulseaudio completely, then speakup and orca 
work as expected.
In my case I set the audio output to libao in 
/etc/speech-dispatcher/speechd.conf and all works for me.











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Re: Introduction and using Orca with Debian sound systems

[Keith Barrett]

On 18/03/18 07:15, john doe wrote:
Hi James, I'm sending this e-mail through the list in the hope that this 
nasty bug will be fixed once and for all.


On 3/17/2018 5:54 PM, James AUSTIN wrote:

Hi John




On 17 Mar 2018, at 14:30, john doe  wrote:

If you don't start orca is speakup speaking?


Yes, Speakup speaks under the text console (CTRL+ALT+F1 etc). Orca 
does not speak under the MATE desktop.



It looks like it's the pulse audio bug back again.


Yes that is my conclusion also. I thought that this particular bug had 
been squashed years ago

Sadly, this bug is still relevent.



Basically, if orca is speaking, speakup won't speak!!! :)


The only way i have managed to achieve is by setting speechd.conf to 
use ALSA, but I do not want to have to reset speechd.conf each time I 
want to s between the two Screen Readers. Is there a better way?


Not that I know of.
The only way I know is to remove pulseaudio completely, then speakup and 
orca work as expected.
In my case I set the audio output to libao in 
/etc/speech-dispatcher/speechd.conf and all works for me.

Debian on Raspberry Pi with Orca is it possible?

[Egon]

Hi All,

Is it possible to use Debian on Raspberry with Orca speech support?

Can anybody has an experience about how to use it on Raspberry? Are 
there any problem with speed etc?


I know that Raspbian is optimised to use with Raspberry but it's 
accessibility is offtopic on this list...



Best regards: Egon

Re: Introduction and using Orca with Debian sound systems

[john doe]

Hi James, I'm sending this e-mail through the list in the hope that this 
nasty bug will be fixed once and for all.


On 3/17/2018 5:54 PM, James AUSTIN wrote:

Hi John




On 17 Mar 2018, at 14:30, john doe  wrote:

If you don't start orca is speakup speaking?


Yes, Speakup speaks under the text console (CTRL+ALT+F1 etc). Orca does not 
speak under the MATE desktop.


It looks like it's the pulse audio bug back again.


Yes that is my conclusion also. I thought that this particular bug had been 
squashed years ago

Sadly, this bug is still relevent.



Basically, if orca is speaking, speakup won't speak!!! :)


The only way i have managed to achieve is by setting speechd.conf to use ALSA, 
but I do not want to have to reset speechd.conf each time I want to s between 
the two Screen Readers. Is there a better way?


Not that I know of.

--
John Doe