building a custon talking debian installation image with build essential and other packages on the disc as well as the mate accessible desktop
Hi, I am totally blind and know about pressing s to start the installer with speech as I do this then go back to the main menu and set debconf priority to low so I have the most control during the installation process. I looked into the simple-cdd package for building a debian installation image but could not find out how to include the full mate debian desktop with orca the screen reader setup for speech as well as build-essential and other development packages. What would be the best process for building such an image that starts automatically at low priority with speech running and a highor volume level then normal for systems where you would like speech to be not so soft during the installation process? Nick Gawronski
Re: RSGames client on Debian 10
no problems. i had issues with the client myself a time ago. angry on alex? no no i only say that sapi on wine are not a good combo. yes winetricks -q speechsdk, but install voices without sight.. Den 24 april 2020 20:58:58 skrev Vojtěch šmiro : Hello, great work! It works! People, please, don't be angry on Alex, he thought it good. I have Hypra from them and I had Wine, so he wrote me about option to try it on Wine, because year a go I had many many apps from windows. thanks a lot Mattias, you're great! I am really lucky!!! Best regards Vojta. mattias jonsson napsal(a): not sure try apt install python-requests Den 24 april 2020 20:43:56 skrev Vojtěch šmiro : Hello, thanks a lot. But another traceback error. ImportError: No module named requests Best regards Vojta. mattias napsal(a): try apt install python-configobj Den 2020-04-24 kl. 18:52, skrev Vojtěch šmiro: Hello, The last row of trace back is: ImportError: No module named configobj Vojta Geoff Shang napsal(a): On Fri, 24 Apr 2020, Vojtěch šmiro wrote: the game works, they made new game after Christmas. But I can't play, I have Python-espeak, but game has error. when I go to the terminal, write cd rsg and python2.7 rsg.pyc, it doesn't work and has some trace back error. It would probably help if you could send the traceback, or at least the last line of it. Cheers, Geoff.
Re: RSGames client on Debian 10
Hello, great work! It works! People, please, don't be angry on Alex, he thought it good. I have Hypra from them and I had Wine, so he wrote me about option to try it on Wine, because year a go I had many many apps from windows. thanks a lot Mattias, you're great! I am really lucky!!! Best regards Vojta. mattias jonsson napsal(a): not sure try apt install python-requests Den 24 april 2020 20:43:56 skrev Vojtěch šmiro : Hello, thanks a lot. But another traceback error. ImportError: No module named requests Best regards Vojta. mattias napsal(a): try apt install python-configobj Den 2020-04-24 kl. 18:52, skrev Vojtěch šmiro: Hello, The last row of trace back is: ImportError: No module named configobj Vojta Geoff Shang napsal(a): On Fri, 24 Apr 2020, Vojtěch šmiro wrote: the game works, they made new game after Christmas. But I can't play, I have Python-espeak, but game has error. when I go to the terminal, write cd rsg and python2.7 rsg.pyc, it doesn't work and has some trace back error. It would probably help if you could send the traceback, or at least the last line of it. Cheers, Geoff.
Re: RSGames client on Debian 10
maybe if you can get codefactory eloquence to work Den 24 april 2020 20:45:06 skrev Vojtěch šmiro : Hello, no, because Wine and sapi in 64bit linux distros is large problem. Best regards Vojta. Alex ARNAUD napsal(a): Their Linux client seems a bit outdated and not maintained, the last documentation was on 2013. Do you have tried to run it with Wine? Best regards. Le 24/04/2020 à 17:28, Vojtěch šmiro a écrit : Hello. Is some way to run rsg in Debian? This game is for Windows, linux and Mac. But linux version is old, they instruct how to play it on Vinux and it is not actual. I wrote them, but they didn't answer. More info about the game at http://www.rsgames.org/ Thanks a lot. Best regards Vojta.
Re: RSGames client on Debian 10
not sure try apt install python-requests Den 24 april 2020 20:43:56 skrev Vojtěch šmiro : Hello, thanks a lot. But another traceback error. ImportError: No module named requests Best regards Vojta. mattias napsal(a): try apt install python-configobj Den 2020-04-24 kl. 18:52, skrev Vojtěch šmiro: Hello, The last row of trace back is: ImportError: No module named configobj Vojta Geoff Shang napsal(a): On Fri, 24 Apr 2020, Vojtěch šmiro wrote: the game works, they made new game after Christmas. But I can't play, I have Python-espeak, but game has error. when I go to the terminal, write cd rsg and python2.7 rsg.pyc, it doesn't work and has some trace back error. It would probably help if you could send the traceback, or at least the last line of it. Cheers, Geoff.
Re: RSGames client on Debian 10
Hello, no, because Wine and sapi in 64bit linux distros is large problem. Best regards Vojta. Alex ARNAUD napsal(a): Their Linux client seems a bit outdated and not maintained, the last documentation was on 2013. Do you have tried to run it with Wine? Best regards. Le 24/04/2020 à 17:28, Vojtěch šmiro a écrit : Hello. Is some way to run rsg in Debian? This game is for Windows, linux and Mac. But linux version is old, they instruct how to play it on Vinux and it is not actual. I wrote them, but they didn't answer. More info about the game at http://www.rsgames.org/ Thanks a lot. Best regards Vojta.
Re: RSGames client on Debian 10
Hello, thanks a lot. But another traceback error. ImportError: No module named requests Best regards Vojta. mattias napsal(a): try apt install python-configobj Den 2020-04-24 kl. 18:52, skrev Vojtěch šmiro: Hello, The last row of trace back is: ImportError: No module named configobj Vojta Geoff Shang napsal(a): On Fri, 24 Apr 2020, Vojtěch šmiro wrote: the game works, they made new game after Christmas. But I can't play, I have Python-espeak, but game has error. when I go to the terminal, write cd rsg and python2.7 rsg.pyc, it doesn't work and has some trace back error. It would probably help if you could send the traceback, or at least the last line of it. Cheers, Geoff.
Re: RSGames client on Debian 10
and good luck to get the client work in debian bullseye a big no no Den 2020-04-24 kl. 19:09, skrev Jude DaShiell: especially since python2 is at end of life. They'd have to port that version to python3 to have any future at all for a graphical linux version at all. Python2.7 has been released but once that version of python reaches end of life the days of python2 are finished. No command line version or console version of the game either and the likely problem with that is, it's entirely possible to write graphical user interface stuff in python that will not work with orca at all. If the developers didn't and don't use axerciser during development they're likely to step on landmines in development. On Fri, 24 Apr 2020, Alex ARNAUD wrote: Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 12:58:23 From: Alex ARNAUD To: Vojt?ch ?miro , debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: RSGames client on Debian 10 Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 16:58:36 + (UTC) Resent-From: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org Their Linux client seems a bit outdated and not maintained, the last documentation was on 2013. Do you have tried to run it with Wine? Best regards. Le 24/04/2020 ? 17:28, Vojt?ch ?miro a ?crit?: Hello. Is some way to run rsg in Debian? This game is for Windows, linux and Mac. But linux version is old, they instruct how to play it on Vinux and it is not actual. I wrote them, but they didn't answer. More info about the game at http://www.rsgames.org/ Thanks a lot. Best regards Vojta.
Re: RSGames client on Debian 10
but the game dont use orca at all because i run it on my chromebook and the linux vm dont use orca at all it uses espeak and the python bindings Den 2020-04-24 kl. 19:09, skrev Jude DaShiell: especially since python2 is at end of life. They'd have to port that version to python3 to have any future at all for a graphical linux version at all. Python2.7 has been released but once that version of python reaches end of life the days of python2 are finished. No command line version or console version of the game either and the likely problem with that is, it's entirely possible to write graphical user interface stuff in python that will not work with orca at all. If the developers didn't and don't use axerciser during development they're likely to step on landmines in development. On Fri, 24 Apr 2020, Alex ARNAUD wrote: Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 12:58:23 From: Alex ARNAUD To: Vojt?ch ?miro , debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: RSGames client on Debian 10 Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 16:58:36 + (UTC) Resent-From: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org Their Linux client seems a bit outdated and not maintained, the last documentation was on 2013. Do you have tried to run it with Wine? Best regards. Le 24/04/2020 ? 17:28, Vojt?ch ?miro a ?crit?: Hello. Is some way to run rsg in Debian? This game is for Windows, linux and Mac. But linux version is old, they instruct how to play it on Vinux and it is not actual. I wrote them, but they didn't answer. More info about the game at http://www.rsgames.org/ Thanks a lot. Best regards Vojta.
Re: RSGames client on Debian 10
especially since python2 is at end of life. They'd have to port that version to python3 to have any future at all for a graphical linux version at all. Python2.7 has been released but once that version of python reaches end of life the days of python2 are finished. No command line version or console version of the game either and the likely problem with that is, it's entirely possible to write graphical user interface stuff in python that will not work with orca at all. If the developers didn't and don't use axerciser during development they're likely to step on landmines in development. On Fri, 24 Apr 2020, Alex ARNAUD wrote: > Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 12:58:23 > From: Alex ARNAUD > To: Vojt?ch ?miro , debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: RSGames client on Debian 10 > Resent-Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 16:58:36 + (UTC) > Resent-From: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org > > Their Linux client seems a bit outdated and not maintained, the last > documentation was on 2013. > > Do you have tried to run it with Wine? > > Best regards. > > Le 24/04/2020 ? 17:28, Vojt?ch ?miro a ?crit?: > > > > Hello. > > > > Is some way to run rsg in Debian? This game is for Windows, linux and Mac. > > But linux version is old, they instruct how to play it on Vinux and it is > > not actual. I wrote them, but they didn't answer. > > > > More info about the game at > > http://www.rsgames.org/ > > > > Thanks a lot. > > > > Best regards > > > > Vojta. > > > > --
Re: RSGames client on Debian 10
and this comes from a mac fanboy Den 2020-04-24 kl. 19:01, skrev Devin Prater: I mean, this is Linux. If you want dedicated first-party support, then Windows is the better platform. We always need workarounds. That is the Linux way for us. On Apr 24, 2020, at 11:37 AM, Vojtěch šmiro wrote: They are writing their names on their website, but Terminal says me cannot fing the package. I've tried Tintin-RSGames, nice work, but it has some error. If I select some option, write and enter, I have problems with xome error with # and that will be remoed in the next version. And when I play some game, it says me some sh error. I haven't that in front of me, sorry. But it hasn't sounds. I liked RSG not only for games, but for great sounds of course. Best regards Vojta. mattias napsal(a): yes you need some extra python packages i cant remember wich Den 2020-04-24 kl. 18:23, skrev Vojtěch šmiro: Hello, the game works, they made new game after Christmas. But I can't play, I have Python-espeak, but game has error. when I go to the terminal, write cd rsg and python2.7 rsg.pyc, it doesn't work and has some trace back error. Best regards Vojta. mattias napsal(a): yes you can you have to install some python2.7 packages e.g python-espeak i wonder if rsgames are no longer active.. Den 2020-04-24 kl. 17:28, skrev Vojtěch šmiro: Hello. Is some way to run rsg in Debian? This game is for Windows, linux and Mac. But linux version is old, they instruct how to play it on Vinux and it is not actual. I wrote them, but they didn't answer. More info about the game at http://www.rsgames.org/ Thanks a lot. Best regards Vojta.
Re: RSGames client on Debian 10
I mean, this is Linux. If you want dedicated first-party support, then Windows is the better platform. We always need workarounds. That is the Linux way for us. > On Apr 24, 2020, at 11:37 AM, Vojtěch šmiro wrote: > > They are writing their names on their website, but Terminal says me cannot > fing the package. > > I've tried Tintin-RSGames, nice work, but it has some error. If I select some > option, write and enter, I have problems with xome error with # and that will > be remoed in the next version. And when I play some game, it says me some sh > error. I haven't that in front of me, sorry. But it hasn't sounds. I liked > RSG not only for games, but for great sounds of course. > > Best regards > > Vojta. > > mattias napsal(a): >> yes you need some extra python packages >> >> i cant remember wich >> >> Den 2020-04-24 kl. 18:23, skrev Vojtěch šmiro: >>> Hello, >>> >>> the game works, they made new game after Christmas. But I can't play, I >>> have Python-espeak, but game has error. when I go to the terminal, write cd >>> rsg and python2.7 rsg.pyc, it doesn't work and has some trace back error. >>> >>> Best regards >>> >>> Vojta. >>> >>> mattias napsal(a): yes you can you have to install some python2.7 packages e.g python-espeak i wonder if rsgames are no longer active.. Den 2020-04-24 kl. 17:28, skrev Vojtěch šmiro: > > Hello. > > Is some way to run rsg in Debian? This game is for Windows, linux and > Mac. But linux version is old, they instruct how to play it on Vinux and > it is not actual. I wrote them, but they didn't answer. > > More info about the game at > http://www.rsgames.org/ > > Thanks a lot. > > Best regards > > Vojta. > >>> >> >
Re: RSGames client on Debian 10
alex how do you thinked you should run it with wine because wine dont come with sapi Den 2020-04-24 kl. 18:58, skrev Alex ARNAUD: Their Linux client seems a bit outdated and not maintained, the last documentation was on 2013. Do you have tried to run it with Wine? Best regards. Le 24/04/2020 à 17:28, Vojtěch šmiro a écrit : Hello. Is some way to run rsg in Debian? This game is for Windows, linux and Mac. But linux version is old, they instruct how to play it on Vinux and it is not actual. I wrote them, but they didn't answer. More info about the game at http://www.rsgames.org/ Thanks a lot. Best regards Vojta.
Re: RSGames client on Debian 10
Their Linux client seems a bit outdated and not maintained, the last documentation was on 2013. Do you have tried to run it with Wine? Best regards. Le 24/04/2020 à 17:28, Vojtěch šmiro a écrit : Hello. Is some way to run rsg in Debian? This game is for Windows, linux and Mac. But linux version is old, they instruct how to play it on Vinux and it is not actual. I wrote them, but they didn't answer. More info about the game at http://www.rsgames.org/ Thanks a lot. Best regards Vojta.
Re: RSGames client on Debian 10
try apt install python-configobj Den 2020-04-24 kl. 18:52, skrev Vojtěch šmiro: Hello, The last row of trace back is: ImportError: No module named configobj Vojta Geoff Shang napsal(a): On Fri, 24 Apr 2020, Vojtěch šmiro wrote: the game works, they made new game after Christmas. But I can't play, I have Python-espeak, but game has error. when I go to the terminal, write cd rsg and python2.7 rsg.pyc, it doesn't work and has some trace back error. It would probably help if you could send the traceback, or at least the last line of it. Cheers, Geoff.
Re: RSGames client on Debian 10
yes you have to install the newer versions for debian Den 2020-04-24 kl. 18:37, skrev Vojtěch šmiro: They are writing their names on their website, but Terminal says me cannot fing the package. I've tried Tintin-RSGames, nice work, but it has some error. If I select some option, write and enter, I have problems with xome error with # and that will be remoed in the next version. And when I play some game, it says me some sh error. I haven't that in front of me, sorry. But it hasn't sounds. I liked RSG not only for games, but for great sounds of course. Best regards Vojta. mattias napsal(a): yes you need some extra python packages i cant remember wich Den 2020-04-24 kl. 18:23, skrev Vojtěch šmiro: Hello, the game works, they made new game after Christmas. But I can't play, I have Python-espeak, but game has error. when I go to the terminal, write cd rsg and python2.7 rsg.pyc, it doesn't work and has some trace back error. Best regards Vojta. mattias napsal(a): yes you can you have to install some python2.7 packages e.g python-espeak i wonder if rsgames are no longer active.. Den 2020-04-24 kl. 17:28, skrev Vojtěch šmiro: Hello. Is some way to run rsg in Debian? This game is for Windows, linux and Mac. But linux version is old, they instruct how to play it on Vinux and it is not actual. I wrote them, but they didn't answer. More info about the game at http://www.rsgames.org/ Thanks a lot. Best regards Vojta.
Re: RSGames client on Debian 10
Hello, The last row of trace back is: ImportError: No module named configobj Vojta Geoff Shang napsal(a): On Fri, 24 Apr 2020, Vojtěch šmiro wrote: the game works, they made new game after Christmas. But I can't play, I have Python-espeak, but game has error. when I go to the terminal, write cd rsg and python2.7 rsg.pyc, it doesn't work and has some trace back error. It would probably help if you could send the traceback, or at least the last line of it. Cheers, Geoff.
Re: RSGames client on Debian 10
They are writing their names on their website, but Terminal says me cannot fing the package. I've tried Tintin-RSGames, nice work, but it has some error. If I select some option, write and enter, I have problems with xome error with # and that will be remoed in the next version. And when I play some game, it says me some sh error. I haven't that in front of me, sorry. But it hasn't sounds. I liked RSG not only for games, but for great sounds of course. Best regards Vojta. mattias napsal(a): yes you need some extra python packages i cant remember wich Den 2020-04-24 kl. 18:23, skrev Vojtěch šmiro: Hello, the game works, they made new game after Christmas. But I can't play, I have Python-espeak, but game has error. when I go to the terminal, write cd rsg and python2.7 rsg.pyc, it doesn't work and has some trace back error. Best regards Vojta. mattias napsal(a): yes you can you have to install some python2.7 packages e.g python-espeak i wonder if rsgames are no longer active.. Den 2020-04-24 kl. 17:28, skrev Vojtěch šmiro: Hello. Is some way to run rsg in Debian? This game is for Windows, linux and Mac. But linux version is old, they instruct how to play it on Vinux and it is not actual. I wrote them, but they didn't answer. More info about the game at http://www.rsgames.org/ Thanks a lot. Best regards Vojta.
Re: RSGames client on Debian 10
On Fri, 24 Apr 2020, Vojtěch šmiro wrote: the game works, they made new game after Christmas. But I can't play, I have Python-espeak, but game has error. when I go to the terminal, write cd rsg and python2.7 rsg.pyc, it doesn't work and has some trace back error. It would probably help if you could send the traceback, or at least the last line of it. Cheers, Geoff.
Re: RSGames client on Debian 10
yes you need some extra python packages i cant remember wich Den 2020-04-24 kl. 18:23, skrev Vojtěch šmiro: Hello, the game works, they made new game after Christmas. But I can't play, I have Python-espeak, but game has error. when I go to the terminal, write cd rsg and python2.7 rsg.pyc, it doesn't work and has some trace back error. Best regards Vojta. mattias napsal(a): yes you can you have to install some python2.7 packages e.g python-espeak i wonder if rsgames are no longer active.. Den 2020-04-24 kl. 17:28, skrev Vojtěch šmiro: Hello. Is some way to run rsg in Debian? This game is for Windows, linux and Mac. But linux version is old, they instruct how to play it on Vinux and it is not actual. I wrote them, but they didn't answer. More info about the game at http://www.rsgames.org/ Thanks a lot. Best regards Vojta.
Re: RSGames client on Debian 10
Hello, the game works, they made new game after Christmas. But I can't play, I have Python-espeak, but game has error. when I go to the terminal, write cd rsg and python2.7 rsg.pyc, it doesn't work and has some trace back error. Best regards Vojta. mattias napsal(a): yes you can you have to install some python2.7 packages e.g python-espeak i wonder if rsgames are no longer active.. Den 2020-04-24 kl. 17:28, skrev Vojtěch šmiro: Hello. Is some way to run rsg in Debian? This game is for Windows, linux and Mac. But linux version is old, they instruct how to play it on Vinux and it is not actual. I wrote them, but they didn't answer. More info about the game at http://www.rsgames.org/ Thanks a lot. Best regards Vojta.
Re: RSGames client on Debian 10
Try this instead, not sure how updated it is. https://github.com/stormdragon2976/tintin-rsgames > On Apr 24, 2020, at 10:28 AM, Vojtěch šmiro wrote: > > > Hello. > > Is some way to run rsg in Debian? This game is for Windows, linux and Mac. > But linux version is old, they instruct how to play it on Vinux and it is not > actual. I wrote them, but they didn't answer. > > More info about the game at > http://www.rsgames.org/ > > Thanks a lot. > > Best regards > > Vojta. >
Re: RSGames client on Debian 10
yes you can you have to install some python2.7 packages e.g python-espeak i wonder if rsgames are no longer active.. Den 2020-04-24 kl. 17:28, skrev Vojtěch šmiro: Hello. Is some way to run rsg in Debian? This game is for Windows, linux and Mac. But linux version is old, they instruct how to play it on Vinux and it is not actual. I wrote them, but they didn't answer. More info about the game at http://www.rsgames.org/ Thanks a lot. Best regards Vojta.
RSGames client on Debian 10
Hello. Is some way to run rsg in Debian? This game is for Windows, linux and Mac. But linux version is old, they instruct how to play it on Vinux and it is not actual. I wrote them, but they didn't answer. More info about the game at http://www.rsgames.org/ Thanks a lot. Best regards Vojta.
Re: New Member
Hi Alex, Thanks for your advice. Jean-Philippe gave me the link for subscribing to this list. I will definitely be replacing Gnome with Mate and will make sure that Wayland is replaceed with Xorg. John On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 08:35:21AM +0200, Alex ARNAUD wrote: > Hello John, > > Nice to meet you there :-). > > As I've told you, yes, I think Mate is more accessible. I can also help you > on Mate because I use it myself. > > The correct way to obtain answer to your question is: > > * Open one thread for one problem > * Don't ask general question like it doesn't work, nothing work, etc >because it is too general to help you. It's like if you say to some >one that come to find you, "I'm lost" without more detailed. > > > If you have an IT department for your job, don't hesitate to write a new > thread with detail on the issue you've. > > First thing you need to know in first place, you need to switch from Wayland > to X.Org for your GNOME Session because Wayland is not correctly ready for > accessibility. > > Best regards. > > Le 24/04/2020 à 00:40, John J. Boyer a écrit : > > Hello, > > > > I have just subscribed to this list. I have Buster. Recently I installed > > Gnome with Orca. I use Braille only, since I am deaf-blind. However, I have > > been having a > > lot of difficulty. Now I am told that Mate is more accessible than Gnome, > > especially for Braille. What do you think? > > > > Thanks, > > John > > > -- John J. Boyer Email: john.bo...@abilitiessoft.org website: http://www.abilitiessoft.org Status: Company dissolved but website and email addresses live. Location: Madison, Wisconsin, USA Mission: developing assistive technology software and providing STEM services that are available at no cost
What do you think of TeamViewer?
Hello, I am working with a local tech on installing a desktop. He installed TeamViewer so he could help me remotely. What have been your experiences with this software? Can it be run in the background? My experience is that it has made things worse. My tech can remote in and run Gnome, but I can't run it from the keyboard. That hss hapened before - with NVDA on Windows 10. Thanks, John -- John J. Boyer Email: john.bo...@abilitiessoft.org website: http://www.abilitiessoft.org Status: Company dissolved but website and email addresses live. Location: Madison, Wisconsin, USA Mission: developing assistive technology software and providing STEM services that are available at no cost
Re: New Member
Hello John, Nice to meet you there :-). As I've told you, yes, I think Mate is more accessible. I can also help you on Mate because I use it myself. The correct way to obtain answer to your question is: * Open one thread for one problem * Don't ask general question like it doesn't work, nothing work, etc because it is too general to help you. It's like if you say to some one that come to find you, "I'm lost" without more detailed. If you have an IT department for your job, don't hesitate to write a new thread with detail on the issue you've. First thing you need to know in first place, you need to switch from Wayland to X.Org for your GNOME Session because Wayland is not correctly ready for accessibility. Best regards. Le 24/04/2020 à 00:40, John J. Boyer a écrit : Hello, I have just subscribed to this list. I have Buster. Recently I installed Gnome with Orca. I use Braille only, since I am deaf-blind. However, I have been having a lot of difficulty. Now I am told that Mate is more accessible than Gnome, especially for Braille. What do you think? Thanks, John
