Re: Future of Accessibility in Debian
I think it is perfectly reasonable to talk about Hypra, as they support Debian with testing, with code, and with feedback. Even more so, their contributions also benefit other distros, just like work done in other groups benefit Debian. it is a little less obvious that we should allow talking about Apple, but even then I say that we should. Informed arguments will only enrich this exchange. We should all be well-informed of what is available from Apple, from Hypra, etc. It is only with good quality discussion and information that we can make educated choices and can fix whatever is still missing in the free and open source world. Fernando On 11/8/19 2:15 PM, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL wrote: Assuming that you still work at Hypra, I don't think that it is acceptable to use your debian.org e-mail to promote your work place. This work place works for Debian. So I dont see the problem. It works not-paid by Debian for Debian, so my job is a volunteer action for Debian. Thanks to Hypra, more than 500 new users use Debian. So yes, I created a project where I tried to fund a fulltime team to improve Debian, upstream and downstream, accessibility. I mix economical action and ethical action. Note that Debian developers can request for a certificate to show they are dev, there is not reason then to separate artificially 2 areas if they are so joint. Clearly, those e-mail should be removed because they fall under spam or promotional e-mails. Remove these about Mac and I will remove them. There is no reason to read "thanks to inform about Mac" and "Please dont talk here about Debian projects if they are supported by companies". Regards -- John Doe
Re: Things to cover in my bits from the DPL talk at Debconf
Well, that makes sense. We just haven’t had the time to spread the word. Time for official launch is September. Fernando (Written with dictation software) > On Jul 10, 2019, at 1:08 PM, Shérab wrote: > > Hi, > > Fernando Botelho (2019/07/10 10:19 -0300): >> Yes, as I said on my initial response, the fact that our project uses >> Arch Linux might be the main reason why my talk got rejected. > > Not the fact that your project uses Arch Linux. Rather, the fact that > it is not _also_ supported by Debian. Well just nitpicking here. > > Shérab. >
Re: Things to cover in my bits from the DPL talk at Debconf
Yes, as I said on my initial response, the fact that our project uses Arch Linux might be the main reason why my talk got rejected. But making a new speech synthesizer is no walk in the park, and it does not happen every day, particularly for languages from developing countries. Since one has been made by a small company from the very city where you guys will have your event; I thought it was worth mentioning. If it does not fit within your needs, then, hey no problem. I was just offering to send a short WAV file with the voice saying something. Fernando (Written with dictation software) > On Jul 10, 2019, at 10:07 AM, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Fernando Botelho, le mer. 10 juil. 2019 10:05:44 -0300, a ecrit: >> We have not yet launched officially, so I doubt that the Portuguese version >> is. But RHVoice might be. It is already use for Russian, English, and a few >> other languages. > > Ok. I just mean that since it's not part of Debian, it is not really > something that Sam would talk about at debconf. > > Samuel >
Re: Things to cover in my bits from the DPL talk at Debconf
We have not yet launched officially, so I doubt that the Portuguese version is. But RHVoice might be. It is already use for Russian, English, and a few other languages. Fernando (Written with dictation software) > On Jul 10, 2019, at 10:02 AM, Samuel Thibault wrote: > > Hello, > > Fernando Botelho, le mer. 10 juil. 2019 09:44:22 -0300, a ecrit: >> but you could mention the first good quality speech synthesizer to become >> available for Linux in Brazilian Portuguese, done by a small little firm in >> Curitiba, Brazil, in cooperation with RHVoice and others. >> >> We could of course send you a WAV file with a sentence or two, if you like. > > Is it packaged in Debian? This doesn't ring me a bell. > > Samuel
Re: Things to cover in my bits from the DPL talk at Debconf
Hi Cindy-Sue, My proposal to present the world’s most affordable talking computer for the blind got rejected, probably because we are using Arch Linux; but you could mention the first good quality speech synthesizer to become available for Linux in Brazilian Portuguese, done by a small little firm in Curitiba, Brazil, in cooperation with RHVoice and others. We could of course send you a WAV file with a sentence or two, if you like. Best, Fernando (Written with dictation software) > On Jul 10, 2019, at 2:28 AM, Cindy Sue Causey > wrote: > > Hi.. I'm temporarily adding this to Debian-Accessibility and *waving* > at Samuel and everyone as I do.. > > >> On 7/8/19, Sam Hartman wrote: >> Folks, I'm looking for cool stuff to cover in my keynote at Debconf. >> Obviously, I'll want to cover buster, and stuff I'm working on, and >> challenging issues facing the project. >> >> But I'd also like to showcase our community and interesting things that >> have happened over the last year. >> >> So, I'd especially be interested in elements to work in that have >> interesting pictures, video or sound elements. >> >> So, things like >> >> * Pictures of release testing >> >> * pictures of release parties >> >> * Possibly interesting uses of Debian that have a good visual/brief >> video story >> >> * Because I'm blind if I could find interesting content, I might focus >> more than usual on sound. But if not that's cool too. >> >> Any thoughts are welcome. > > > So, can anyone think of anything about Debian-Accessibility that would > fit into what Sam seeks? MANY people have never, for example, heard a > screenreader in action. I personally have Users with screenreaders in > my thoughts on regular occasion, especially when all that useful > information is zipping by at warp speed on my own screen during > reboots. > > If anyone replies, it's possibly most appropriate to drop > Debian-Accessibility back out of the loop and only reply directly to > Debian-Publicity. > > ONE DISCLAIMER: I don't know if the Debian-Publicity list accepts > posts from non-subscribers.. > > Just thinking out loud.. :) > > PS Afterthought: What about "Hurd"? That just hit my radar in some bit > of chatter or another during the past week: > > Debian GNU/Hurd 2019 released!; 2019.07.07 > https://lists.debian.org/debian-hurd/2019/07/msg1.html > > Cindy :) > -- > Cindy-Sue Causey > Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA > > * runs with birdseed * >
Re: Request for CLI espeak Install to have needed CLI programs for blind.
F123Light does something similar to what you are describing, but we do it using Arch Linux and specifically for the Raspberry Pi. I will update our documentation and share a page url under this email thread in case anybody is interested. We also have a bash script called configure-wifi which might be of interest, and might work well outside of Arch. Fernando On 12/11/2018 04:00 PM, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote: Wifi Drivers are available in the unofficial Debian iso files. Unfortunately, a Live CD with just Command Line Installation isn't available - that would be so nice if it were. So we have to use the net install CD with firmware. https://cdimage.debian.org/images/unofficial/non-free/images-including-firmware/9.6.0+nonfree/amd64/iso-cd/ The CD image itself is 326 MB: https://cdimage.debian.org/images/unofficial/non-free/images-including-firmware/9.6.0+nonfree/amd64/iso-cd/firmware-9.6.0-amd64-netinst.iso I don't remember if this CD image had a bug in it, but I had to use an older CD that didn't have the bug in the firmware that I needed for WiFi. Again, if anyone has the ears of the people who make the Debian CDs, it would be great to have a CD that installed a command line system, including sound, networking, and mail and web browsing. Web: w3m, lynx, elinks, links2 (works with framebuffer in color) an ftp client, irssi for IRC, wodim for making CDs and the files for DVDs, alpine, mutt for mail, and so forth. It seems like a logical place to start. Those who have some vision or who want X Windows can install the Graphical Interface. Those who want keyboard centered system and don't want visual interface can use command line. Best wishes, David On Tue, Dec 11, 2018 at 12:47 PM Keith Barrett mailto:li...@barrettpianos.co.uk>> wrote: I would also like this. I think having wifi configured during the install would solve most of the issues here.
Re: Hi, I am blind
It would be more useful if you both gave a list of specific things in Orca, which you would like improved. Nobody responds to generic complaints, since those of us in Linux are using Orca and other screen readers because we like them mostly as they are. Fernando On 04/14/2018 02:37 PM, Chime Hart wrote: Well Adri, actually I have writtin folks at NVDA requesting them to make a Linux version. Along with yourself, I wish they did. Their flat review is almost exactly what we enjoy in Speakup, which is console or command-line based. Maybe if there were a graphical screen-reader in Linux with a similar feel to windows98, more blind folks would jump in. Chime
