debian testing iso install in franch: mate desktop is in English
Hello, a friend and I installed a debian testing from the iso available here: https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/amd64/iso-cd/ When you choose French, and install the mate desktop, the graphical interface is in English, while the rest of the system is in French. however, the keyboard is in azerty as I requested during installation If it's any help, I'd like to point out that the first test was carried out on December 9 and my test on December 15, and the bug is still present. thanks, Jerem
Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal
Le 11/09/2023 à 20:49, Samuel Thibault a écrit : Jérémy Prego, le lun. 11 sept. 2023 09:21:38 +0200, a ecrit: Le 11/09/2023 à 09:01, Samuel Thibault a écrit : Jérémy Prego, le lun. 11 sept. 2023 03:35:15 +0200, a ecrit: I noticed a small problem 1. when you open a large file using cat file.txt |less and press enter to go down in the file, orca almost always pronounces the first 2 letters of the line before reading the whole line. Is this a regression over the previous versions or not? yes, it's a regression. i don't have this behavior with the version in debian testing Ok, I see the issue. I have updated the patches and package to merge the additions, could you please re-test? I can confirm that it's much better! after a quick test, I don't have any more problems, I'll test it in use, but for me, everything looks good compared to the version in debian testing thanks ! Samuel Jerem libt.tld_type is 1, lib_t.tld_source_file is '/usr/local/lib/aarch64-linux-gnu/perl/5.30.0/auto/share/dist/Mail-DMARC-opendmarc/effective_tld_names.dat' ___ orca mailing list o...@freelists.org https://www.freelists.org/list/orca Orca wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca Orca documentation: https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/ GNOME Universal Access guide: https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html
Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal
Le 11/09/2023 à 09:01, Samuel Thibault a écrit : Jérémy Prego, le lun. 11 sept. 2023 03:35:15 +0200, a ecrit: I noticed a small problem 1. when you open a large file using cat file.txt |less and press enter to go down in the file, orca almost always pronounces the first 2 letters of the line before reading the whole line. Is this a regression over the previous versions or not? yes, it's a regression. i don't have this behavior with the version in debian testing Samuel
Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal
hello, I've just tested this version out of curiosity. I noticed a small problem 1. when you open a large file using cat file.txt |less and press enter to go down in the file, orca almost always pronounces the first 2 letters of the line before reading the whole line. Jerem Le 11/09/2023 à 02:27, Samuel Thibault a écrit : Hello, I have updated https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/vte/-/issues/88 with an improved patch. Could people try it? I have also uploaded patched Debian packages on https://people.debian.org/~sthibault/tmp/trixie-tmp/ Please test so we can at last get this fixed! Samuel ___ orca mailing list o...@freelists.org https://www.freelists.org/list/orca Orca wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca Orca documentation: https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/ GNOME Universal Access guide: https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html
Re: [orca] Re: (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal
I've just seen that version 0.73.99-1, which will soon be available in sid and then in testing, solves the problem for me with this version as well. so for me the problem is closed, as it will soon be corrected in debian. Jerem Le 03/09/2023 à 23:08, Alexander Epaneshnikov a écrit : On Sun, Sep 03, 2023 at 09:39:56PM +0200, Jérémy Prego wrote: hello, hello Jérémy. I've just found the library that's causing the problem. it's the libvte-2.91-0 library in version 0.73.93-1 currently in debian testing. downgrading to version 0.72.2-3 solves the problem. that happened because bug [1] was fixed in libvte. in fact I think this fix improved more than it got worse, so I'm sad that it was rolled back. i'm relieved! :) I was thinking of making a bug report in debian against the package, but I confess I don't know what to put in it. A question for Samuel. in order to return this fix, where the correction of the diff algorithm should occur in libvte or in orca? because as a vte-based terminal every day user, I can't imagine life without this patch. ps Well, this patch has a difficult fate. Jerem [1]: https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/vte/-/issues/88
Re: [orca] (solved) orca's strange behavior in a crowded terminal
hello, I've just found the library that's causing the problem. it's the libvte-2.91-0 library in version 0.73.93-1 currently in debian testing. downgrading to version 0.72.2-3 solves the problem. i'm relieved! :) I was thinking of making a bug report in debian against the package, but I confess I don't know what to put in it. Jerem Le 02/09/2023 à 02:55, Jérémy Prego (jeremy) a écrit : Hello, since this evening, I've been experiencing a strange bug with orca, but I don't think he's the direct culprit. if I fill my terminal and then issue a command, e.g. "echo foo", Orca will read out the entire terminal window, not just the text that has just been added to the terminal. as long as the terminal isn't full, everything's fine, it works as expected. I've tried downgrading at-spi with all the right debian packages, but the problem is still there. I'm attaching a debug, if it helps to understand what's going on :) thanks, Jerem
Re: ifconfig
hello, apt install net-tools Jerem Le 07/07/2023 à 23:53, K0LNY a écrit : Anyone know why the ifconfig command does not work on my Debian 32 bit on my Asus? I've tried it as root and not as root, it just says command not found. Thanks.
Re: Running A nano VNA file
hello, in folder, type: ./nanovna-saver Is it better? Jerem Le 08/02/2023 à 20:24, K0LNY_Glenn a écrit : Hi All, I downloaded NanoVNA-Saver for Linux at: https://github.com/NanoVNA-Saver/nanovna-saver/releases/tag/v0.5.4 and I'm using Ubuntu with Orca. I unzipped the file: NanoVNASaver.linux.zip and got a single file nanovna-saver The page says to chmod -x it because the executable flags get lost with the unzipping. So I did that with no errors. But the file does not execute. I just get command not found I tried sudo bash nanovna-saver and it says it's not an executable file The NanoVNA is a device to test antennas for SWR and resonant frequency. Thanks for any assistance. Glenn
Re: how to stop Marco from locking up on Bullseye/Mate?
hello, I confirm this bug under debian with a version of marco higher than 1.24.0-1. I had already mentioned this problem earlier without a solution so far. I don't know how to reproduce the problem every time. to unlock marco and orca, just call the orca preferences with the shortcut orca + space. once an orca window appears everything unlocks...until next time... Jerem Le 29/06/2022 à 20:48, Chevelle a écrit : If I start VLC to play an audio file and press control-q to quit the file Marco gets locked up. This renders ORCA useless because it can't read things properly. The system is useless at that point. A similar thing happens with MPV. It was happening with Chromium until version 103 came out last week. If I switch to a console window and kill Marco the problem goes away temporarily. Does anybody have a solution for this or know how to track it down or file a bug report on it? I sent the ORCA developer a debug file demonstrating the problem with Chromium, but she never answered me. On 6/29/2022 9:59 AM, Didier Spaier wrote: Hello Roberto Le 29/06/2022 à 15:27, Roberto Burceni a écrit : Thank you for your response. Which distribution are you using for xlqt? Slint, but running the pre-version 15.0 not yet released (I am its maintainer). Cheers, Didier
RE: [solved but ...] accessibility bug after quitting a qt application
hello, i just found the culprit ... i am using mate desktop and there has been an update from marco to 1.24.1-2. I went back to marco 1.24.0 and I found the happiness of being able to quit qt applications without any problem! :) I also had bugs with marco 1.24.1-1 several months ago. I blocked the installation of version 1.24.1-1 but it looks like version 1.24.1-2 still has the same issues with qt apps ... hoping it can help other people Jerem Le 23/02/2021 à 17:34, Devin Prater a écrit : > Yeah, it's been here for a while in Arch. If you go to the desktop > immediately after quitting the program, you're good. You can also call > an Orca dialog, like Insert + H, then F2 to show keyboard commands. > > On 2/22/21 7:10 PM, Jérémy Prego via orca-list wrote: >> Hello, >> >> Since the last update of qt on my debian testing a week ago, I am >> experiencing a bug when I quit a qt application with alt + f4. >> >> i don't think orca is frozen because if i get a notification it will >> read it, but i can't do anything on the keyboard anymore >> >> To get out of this freeze, I just need to call orca preferences with >> orca + space and there I find the interaction with my keyboard. >> >> I specify that I have not yet tried to install a debian testing on a vm >> in order to reproduce the behavior. >> >> Have you heard of this bug? >> >> thanks, >> >> Jerem >> ___ >> orca-list mailing list >> orca-l...@gnome.org >> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/orca-list >> Orca wiki: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/Orca >> Orca documentation: https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/ >> GNOME Universal Access guide: >> https://help.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/a11y.html
accessibility bug after quitting a qt application
Hello, Since the last update of qt on my debian testing a week ago, I am experiencing a bug when I quit a qt application with alt + f4. i don't think orca is frozen because if i get a notification it will read it, but i can't do anything on the keyboard anymore To get out of this freeze, I just need to call orca preferences with orca + space and there I find the interaction with my keyboard. I specify that I have not yet tried to install a debian testing on a vm in order to reproduce the behavior. Have you heard of this bug? thanks, Jerem
Re: at-spi 2.33 stack in experimental
Le 07/09/2019 à 20:40, Samuel Thibault a écrit : > Jérémy Prego, le ven. 06 sept. 2019 15:36:31 +0200, a ecrit: >> as long as I do not press at least one letter, f10, or alt + tab and >> then alt + tab to return in pluma, nothing happens if I use the arrow. > I can't reproduce the issue. What I am doing is: > > - install bullseye > - upgrade at-spi packages as mentioned in my previous mail > reboot ? or no. here, if I don't restart, I got the impression that still use > the old version Jerem > - put some text in test.txt > - run mate-terminal > - type pluma test.txt there > > Pluma opens, and orca's braille monitor shows the first line of > test.txt > > If I type the down arrow, orca's braille monitor shows the next line of > test.txt > > Samuel >
Re: at-spi 2.33 stack in experimental
Le 06/09/2019 à 15:12, Samuel Thibault a écrit : > Hello, > > Jérémy Prego, le ven. 06 sept. 2019 15:05:34 +0200, a ecrit: >> if I open a program from a terminal, pluma /tmp/fichier.txt for example, >> I have not the access to the entire suite if I use the up and down >> arrows. there is a small lag. > I'm not sure of the details here: do mention both not having access, and > having a lag. Do you mean that you do not have _immediate_ access, i.e. > operations take a lot of time before you get results? I thought it was a lag, but eventually, it is nothing. as long as I do not press at least one letter, f10, or alt + tab and then alt + tab to return in pluma, nothing happens if I use the arrow. > I have the impression that he expects that the window of pluma, either modify > it to be able to capture it > Samuel Jerem
Re: at-spi 2.33 stack in experimental
hello, the bug of su is fixed in 2.33.92-2. thanks ! However, I have another bug that is not related, but I relate it as there is still time. if I open a program from a terminal, pluma /tmp/fichier.txt for example, I have not the access to the entire suite if I use the up and down arrows. there is a small lag. after I don't know if the bug comes from orca or at-spi. I do not know since when it no longer works exactly. to solve the problem I do a alt + tab and then a second alt + tab to return in pluma. Jerem Le 06/09/2019 à 03:54, Samuel Thibault a écrit : > Hello, > > I managed to reproduce the issue. I believe this should be fixed by > version 2.33.92-2 of at-spi2-core. > > > Some people have asked how to install these versions. You should be > able to just add > > deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ experimental main > > to your sources.list, run apt-get update, and then use > > apt-get install at-spi2-core/experimental gir1.2-atspi-2.0/experimental > libatk-adaptor/experimental libatk-bridge2.0-0/experimental > libatspi2.0-0/experimental python3-pyatspi/experimental > libatk1.0-0/experimental > > to upgrade the whole at-spi stack to the experimental version. And use > > apt-get install at-spi2-core/unstable gir1.2-atspi-2.0/unstable > libatk-adaptor/unstable libatk-bridge2.0-0/unstable libatspi2.0-0/unstable > python3-pyatspi/unstable libatk1.0-0/unstable > > to downgrade back to unstable. > > Samuel >
Re: at-spi 2.33 stack in experimental
hello, result check-a11y jeremy@jerem-debian:~/check-a11y$ ./troubleshoot Info INFO: session type 'x11' INFO: VT '7' INFO: session desktop 'lightdm-xsession' INFO: current desktop 'MATE' INFO: DISPLAY ':0.0' INFO: WAYLAND_DISPLAY '' Packages PASS: at-spi2-core installed PASS: libgail-common installed PASS: libatk-adaptor installed PASS: qt-at-spi installed FAIL: libatk-wrapper-java not installed, Java Swing applications will not be accessible Running environment PASS: at-spi-bus-launcher is running as user jeremy PASS: at-spi2-registryd is running as user jeremy FAIL: mismatch between $DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS (unix:path=/run/user/1000/bus) and well-known path /home/jeremy/.dbus/session-bus/1795160871d64fc086911b59fabb7ca4-0 () PASS: got accessibility bus unix:abstract=/tmp/dbus-7hjZBYOBc7,guid=61bf95d55461303e5116c7b45d6eb779 from session dbus PASS: got accessibility bus unix:abstract=/tmp/dbus-7hjZBYOBc7,guid=61bf95d55461303e5116c7b45d6eb779 from root window PASS: accessibility buses from session dbus and from root window match PASS: org.a11y.Status IsEnabled is true Layer enabling PASS: screen-reader-enabled is set in gsettings PASS: MATE accessibility is set in gsettings PASS: GTK_MODULES contains gail PASS: GTK_MODULES contains atk-bridge PASS: QT_ACCESSIBILITY is set to 1 WARN: GNOME_ACCESSIBILITY is set to '', mozilla applications will not be accessible unless IsEnabled is set to true (as typically set by starting orca, but not accerciser etc.) jeremy@jerem-debian:~/check-a11y$ su -l Mot de passe : 02:21:~# cd /home/jeremy/che 02:21:~# cd /home/jeremy/check-a11y/ 02:21:/home/jeremy/check-a11y# ./troubleshoot Info INFO: session type '' INFO: VT '' INFO: session desktop '' INFO: current desktop '' INFO: DISPLAY ':0.0' INFO: WAYLAND_DISPLAY '' Packages PASS: at-spi2-core installed PASS: libgail-common installed PASS: libatk-adaptor installed PASS: qt-at-spi installed FAIL: libatk-wrapper-java not installed, Java Swing applications will not be accessible Running environment FAIL: at-spi-bus-launcher is not running as user root but another at-spi-bus-launcher is running as another user (though perhaps on another DISPLAY) FAIL: at-spi2-registryd is not running as user root but another at-spi2-registryd is running as another user (though perhaps on another DISPLAY) FAIL: no session bus address in $DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS well-known path /root/.dbus/session-bus/1795160871d64fc086911b59fabb7ca4-0 says unix:abstract=/tmp/dbus-EulxEYmzKS,guid=7ebe74b5480801ba4fff4b955d6e29c2 Error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken. FAIL: can't get accessibility bus from session dbus PASS: got accessibility bus unix:abstract=/tmp/dbus-7hjZBYOBc7,guid=61bf95d55461303e5116c7b45d6eb779 from root window ^[[DError org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken. WARN: org.a11y.Status IsEnabled is '', mozilla applications will not be accessible unless GNOME_ACCESSIBILITY is set to 1 Layer enabling PASS: screen-reader-enabled is set in gsettings PASS: MATE accessibility is set in gsettings WARN: GTK_MODULES does not contain gail, GTK2 applications may not be accessible WARN: GTK_MODULES does not contain atk-bridge, GTK2 applications may not be accessible WARN: QT_ACCESSIBILITY is not set to 1, Qt4 applications may not be accessible WARN: GNOME_ACCESSIBILITY is set to '', mozilla applications will not be accessible unless IsEnabled is set to true (as typically set by starting orca, but not accerciser etc.) 02:22:/home/jeremy/check-a11y# I precise that I do the test with at-spi2-core version 2.32. should I do the same thing with the 2.33 ? I also explained that in my /root I have a file .gtkrc-2.0 which contains this: gtk-modules = "gail:atk-bridge" please tell me if I forgot to answer something Jerem Le 05/09/2019 à 00:21, Samuel Thibault a écrit : > Jérémy Prego, le mar. 03 sept. 2019 11:07:26 +0200, a ecrit: >> I have a regression when I want to read a document in su mode. the >> downgrader at-spi2-core has the old version (2.32.1-4) solves the problem. >> step to reproduce: >> 1. open a terminal >> 2. su-l and then password >> 3. pluma file >> >> here, orca does not read anything > Mmm, there are several things: > > - su -l resets the environment, so it is expected that things won't > work. Actually I wonder why you are not getting > > Cannot open display: > Run 'pluma --help' to see a full list of available command line options. > > because DISPLAY would be unset. Are you perhaps setting DISPLAY to :0 &g
Re: at-spi 2.33 stack in experimental
Le 03/09/2019 à 01:26, Samuel Thibault a écrit : > Hello, > > Samuel Thibault, le sam. 24 août 2019 19:20:46 +0200, a ecrit: >> The at-spi 2.33 stack is available for testing from the experimental >> repository. >> >> testing can be welcome to avoid surprises when it will enter >> unstable then testing. > There was indeed a regression on orca startup, this is now fixed in the > 2.33.92 series now available in experimental, up for more testing! > hello, > > I just try to upgrade the battery accessibility in 2.33 in my debian testing. > > Start-Date: 2019-09-03 07:39:48 > Upgrade: gir1.2-atk-1.0:amd64 (2.33.3+really2.32.0-4, 2.33.3+really2.33.3-1), > at-spi2-core:amd64 (2.32.1-4, 2.33.92-1), python3-pyatspi:amd64 > (2.33.90+really2.32.1+dfsg-4, 2.33.92-1), libatk-adaptor:amd64 (2.32.0-7, > 2.33.92-1), libatk1.0-0:amd64 (2.33.3+really2.32.0-4, 2.33.3+really2.33.3-1), > libatspi2.0-0:amd64 (2.32.1-4, 2.33.92-1), gir1.2-atspi-2.0:amd64 (2.32.1-4, > 2.33.92-1), libatk-bridge2.0-0:amd64 (2.32.0-7, 2.33.92-1), > libatk1.0-data:amd64 (2.33.3+really2.32.0-4, 2.33.3+really2.33.3-1) > End-Date: 2019-09-03 07:39:50 > > I have a regression when I want to read a document in su mode. the downgrader > at-spi2-core has the old version (2.32.1-4) solves the problem. > > step to reproduce: > 1. open a terminal > 2. su-l and then password > 3. pluma file > > here, orca does not read anything I don't know if this is a bug or I have forgot to update something. thanks, > Samuel Jerem
