Re: Iggdrasil, a new amazing screenreader
Most of the issues with graphical user interface accessibility under Linux are in the desktop environments and applications, not in the screen reader. Most of the issues are too much choice. Which desktop are you talking about? Accessibility is excellent under both Windows and Mac, compared to Linux. This is in the biggest part because the GUI is baked right into the OS. And there are not a hundred different desktops to choose from. Many of which are developed by people who don't give a damn about accessibility, or even don't know what it is. Orca is never going to adequately cover any application that is not a GTK application. One of the worst things abut Orca is the dependence on speech-dispatcher. Two things need to happen IMHO: 1. Somebody needs to fix the bug in the sd_espeak module of speech-dispatcher so that it does not unload itself randomly. This will make it possible to choose espeak and not pulse, and still get reliable stability. 2. There need to be alternative "factories" chooseable under the Orca settings. Currently speech-dispatcher is it. But accessibility on the Linux desktop will never be a patch on Windows or Mac, just because there are loads of desktops to choose from. And IMHO accessibility starts with the installer. I will only use distros I can install unassisted, and I am 100% blind. Why do so many distros based on Debian or Ubuntu rip out the accessibility bits from the installer? Another reason Windows and Mac are so accessible, is that they are commercial products. They don't really have much choice but work on accessibility, and doing so makes sound commercial sense. Many Open Source projects, including various GUI desktops in Linux, pay scant, or no attention whatsoever to accessibility. Mike Orca is well maintained, but my impression is that some other, necessary components aren't. If someone wants to devote resources to working on graphical desktop accessibility, screen reader development isn't where I would suggest starting. -- Michael A. Ray Analyst/Programmer Witley, Surrey, South-east UK He/him "Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away." -- A. de Saint-Exupery
Re: Christian beliebers here using Debian
Surely, if God is omniscient and omnipresent, he will provide an accessible fairy story reader you can use to read the Bible. It's just a matter of praying hard enough. On 13/11/2021 18:16, David Hoff Jr wrote: I use Debian and Slint. I'm in California in the USA. Have used Diatheke in the console in Debian in the past, but unable to find any accessible Bible program for the GUI Desktop. Also use Windows in my work and personal use. -- Michael A. Ray Analyst/Programmer Witley, Surrey, South-east UK He/him "Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away." -- A. de Saint-Exupery
Re: Minimal speech recognition -- discrete/command/control
Here is a link to a Hacker Public Radio podcast about the 'blather' speech recognition system. As far as I remember it was running on a Raspberry Pi: https://hackerpublicradio.org/eps.php?id=1568 On 29/04/2019 14:00, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Hello, > > > Richard Owlett, le lun. 29 avril 2019 07:46:45 -0500, a ecrit: >> I'm looking for speech recognition [speech to text] for command entry tasks. >> My keywords are: >> discrete speech >> small vocabulary >> speaker independent [not critical] >> >> IOW something on the other end of spectrum from Sphinx. >> My background is at least a decade out of date. >> I'm assuming an external amp and digitizer [cruddy sound means >> unsatisfactory performance. >> I prefer FOSS software. >> I don't have accessibility issues -- just lousy typist. >> Is this list appropriate? > > The list is probably one of the places where you can find people having > ideas. > > Personally I don't know anything beyond sphinx and Mozilla's Common > Voice project. > > Samuel > > -- Michael A. Ray Analyst/Programmer Witley, Surrey, South-east UK "Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away." -- A. de Saint-Exupery https://cromarty.github.io/ http://eyesfreelinux.ninja/ http://www.raspberryvi.org/
Re: Request for CLI espeak Install to have needed CLI programs for blind.
nmcli is part of the network-manager package which, I believe, is installed by default. It is a very good command line network tool. On 11/12/2018 18:05, john doe wrote: > On 12/11/2018 7:00 PM, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. wrote: >> Wifi Drivers are available in the unofficial Debian iso files. >> >> Unfortunately, a Live CD with just Command Line Installation isn't >> available - that would be so nice if it were. >> >> So we have to use the net install CD with firmware. >> https://cdimage.debian.org/images/unofficial/non-free/images-including-firmware/9.6.0+nonfree/amd64/iso-cd/ >> >> The CD image itself is 326 MB: >> https://cdimage.debian.org/images/unofficial/non-free/images-including-firmware/9.6.0+nonfree/amd64/iso-cd/firmware-9.6.0-amd64-netinst.iso >> >> I don't remember if this CD image had a bug in it, but I had to use an >> older CD that didn't have the bug in the firmware that I needed for WiFi. >> >> Again, if anyone has the ears of the people who make the Debian CDs, it >> would be great to have a CD that installed a command line system, including >> sound, networking, and mail and web browsing. >> >> Web: w3m, lynx, elinks, links2 (works with framebuffer in color) an ftp >> client, irssi for IRC, wodim for making CDs and the files for DVDs, alpine, >> mutt for mail, and so forth. >> > > Preseed file can do that. > -- Michael A. Ray Analyst/Programmer Witley, Surrey, South-east UK "Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away." -- A. de Saint-Exupery https://cromarty.github.io/ http://eyesfreelinux.ninja/ http://www.raspberryvi.org/
Re: how to enable accessibility for Firefox in Debian ARM64
Hello, You didn't specify which ARM 64-bit machine you are running this on. If it is a Raspberry Pi 3, then you cannot get sound currently from aarch64, as there is no 'userland' code, the stuff that usually lives in /opt, for 64-bit kernels. And as far as I know the Pi Foundation has no intention currently of modifying it to provide 64-bit versions of this code, which drives the GPU. I have no knowledge of any other 64-bit ARM machine. I guess it would work with an external USB sound device though, as that avoids the GPU stuff, I think. Mike On 30/10/2018 12:47, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Mgr. Janusz Chmiel, le mar. 30 oct. 2018 13:40:37 +0100, a ecrit: >> Because packagers of Debian distribution created many many ARM 64 bit >> packages, I would like to know, if Firefox havebeen compiled with >> accessibility support, > > There is no reason why accessibility would have been disabled. > >> Firefox is working including hod keys support, but Orca is totallysilent >> insidethis process Window. > > IIRC you are running this in a very particular environment. You could > check with > > $ git clone https://salsa.debian.org/a11y-team/check-a11y.git > $ cd check-a11y > $ ./troubleshoot > > whether your environment has proper configuration. > > Samuel > > -- Michael A. Ray Analyst/Programmer Witley, Surrey, South-east UK "Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away." -- A. de Saint-Exupery https://cromarty.github.io/ http://eyesfreelinux.ninja/ http://www.raspberryvi.org/
Re: pulseaudio and espeakup
Perhaps a way to try is to run speech-dispatcher in TCP socket mode in a docker container. I intend to look into this at some point. But one problem I anticipate is the way to persuade Orca that SD is there and does not need to be launched by it. On 04/05/2018 12:34, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Christian Schoepplein, le ven. 04 mai 2018 13:17:45 +0200, a ecrit: >> Pulse is running as a systemwide daemon and orca and brltty are using >> speechd. > > Well, this is probably not something we want to promote and certainly > not use by default since this is discouraged and unsupported by > pulseaudio maintainers. > >> I can post more details about the setup and the necessary steps for the >> different configuration tasks if you like. > > Perhaps some additions would be useful to > > https://wiki.debian.org/accessibility/#Run_Pulseaudio_as_root > > Samuel > > -- Michael A. Ray Analyst/Programmer Witley, Surrey, South-east UK "Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away." -- A. de Saint-Exupery https://cromarty.github.io/ http://eyesfreelinux.ninja/ http://www.raspberryvi.org/
