Bug#758434: Re : Bug#758434: Re : Re: Bug#758434: Re : Bug#870366: libreoffice-writer: Comment text not accessible with screen reader

[Samuel Thibault]

MENGUAL Jean-Philippe, on jeu. 03 août 2017 11:18:22 +0200, wrote:
> - Samuel Thibault  a écrit :
> > MENGUAL Jean-Philippe, on jeu. 03 août 2017 10:47:23 +0200, wrote:
> > > Ok I understand. But then, how is it possible to tie link, gather, merge 
> > > them?,
> > 
> > Again, are these actually the same bug? If so, yes, they must be merged.
> > Otherwise they need to be kept seperate.
> 
> From a usability point of view, they are the same. From a technical point of 
> view, Writer does not send useful info to Orca, but Orca is not ready to get 
> it if sent (new dev would be needed in both packages).

Ok, so it's a bug dependency indeed.

Samuel

Bug#758434: Re : Bug#758434: Re : Re: Bug#758434: Re : Bug#870366: libreoffice-writer: Comment text not accessible with screen reader

[MENGUAL Jean-Philippe]

- Samuel Thibault  a écrit :
> MENGUAL Jean-Philippe, on jeu. 03 août 2017 10:47:23 +0200, wrote:
> > Ok I understand. But then, how is it possible to tie link, gather, merge 
> > them?,
> 
> Again, are these actually the same bug? If so, yes, they must be merged.
> Otherwise they need to be kept seperate.

>From a usability point of view, they are the same. From a technical point of 
>view, Writer does not send useful info to Orca, but Orca is not ready to get 
>it if sent (new dev would be needed in both packages).

> Now, if you want to make both the orca package and the libreoffice
> package aware of the issue, BTS' "affects" command can be used, to say
> that a bug in a package affects another package.

Probably the best practice indeed. 

> Samuel
> 

Bug#758434: Re : Re: Bug#758434: Re : Bug#870366: libreoffice-writer: Comment text not accessible with screen reader

[Samuel Thibault]

Alex ARNAUD, on jeu. 03 août 2017 10:59:14 +0200, wrote:
> Le 03/08/2017 à 10:56, Samuel Thibault a écrit :
> > MENGUAL Jean-Philippe, on jeu. 03 août 2017 10:47:23 +0200, wrote:
> > > Ok I understand. But then, how is it possible to tie link, gather, merge 
> > > them?,
> > 
> > Again, are these actually the same bug? If so, yes, they must be merged.
> > Otherwise they need to be kept seperate.
> > 
> > Now, if you want to make both the orca package and the libreoffice
> > package aware of the issue, BTS' "affects" command can be used, to say
> > that a bug in a package affects another package.
> 
> In bugzilla for example it is possible to make a bug depends on another one
> to be fixed.

Also, yes.

Samuel

Bug#758434: Re : Re: Bug#758434: Re : Bug#870366: libreoffice-writer: Comment text not accessible with screen reader

[Alex ARNAUD]

Le 03/08/2017 à 10:56, Samuel Thibault a écrit :

MENGUAL Jean-Philippe, on jeu. 03 août 2017 10:47:23 +0200, wrote:

Ok I understand. But then, how is it possible to tie link, gather, merge them?,


Again, are these actually the same bug? If so, yes, they must be merged.
Otherwise they need to be kept seperate.

Now, if you want to make both the orca package and the libreoffice
package aware of the issue, BTS' "affects" command can be used, to say
that a bug in a package affects another package.


In bugzilla for example it is possible to make a bug depends on another 
one to be fixed.


Best regards.
--
Alex ARNAUD
Visual-Impairment Project Manager
Hypra - "Humanizing technology"

Bug#758434: Re : Re: Bug#758434: Re : Bug#870366: libreoffice-writer: Comment text not accessible with screen reader

[Samuel Thibault]

MENGUAL Jean-Philippe, on jeu. 03 août 2017 10:47:23 +0200, wrote:
> Ok I understand. But then, how is it possible to tie link, gather, merge 
> them?,

Again, are these actually the same bug? If so, yes, they must be merged.
Otherwise they need to be kept seperate.

Now, if you want to make both the orca package and the libreoffice
package aware of the issue, BTS' "affects" command can be used, to say
that a bug in a package affects another package.

Samuel

Bug#758434: Re : Re: Bug#758434: Re : Bug#870366: libreoffice-writer: Comment text not accessible with screen reader

[MENGUAL Jean-Philippe]

Ok I understand. But then, how is it possible to tie link, gather, merge them?,


Jean-Philippe MENGUAL

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- Alex ARNAUD  a écrit :
> Le 02/08/2017 à 21:07, Samuel Thibault a écrit :
> > MENGUAL Jean-Philippe, on mar. 01 août 2017 15:26:16 +0200, wrote:
> >> I had submitted a similar bug related to gnome-orca:
> >> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=758434
> >>
> >> When I did we did not have explanations about origin of the bug, etc. 
> >> Maybe we should merge them, or close the gnome-orca one, or reaffect orca 
> >> ont to it?
> > 
> > It depends whether it's actually the same bug (then merge) or not (then
> > not merge).
> > 
> > Reaffecting bugs can be useful, depending who you want to get the
> > attention of on the bug.
> 
> We should keep the two bugs. Nothing tells us when LibreOffice will 
> implement the comment feature Orca will work. Maybe a work should be 
> made into Orca to take into account the new LibreOffice feature.
> 
> Best regards.
> -- 
> Alex ARNAUD
> Visual-Impairment Project Manager
> Hypra - "Humanizing technology"