Bug#859957: Fwd: Bug#859957: natbraille: ftbfs without networking

[Bruno Mascret]

Dear Simon,

Thanks a lot for your help!!!
I transfer this good news to our community.

Best regards,
Bruno
Le 01/06/2017 à 14:46, Simon Kainz a écrit :


Am 2017-05-26 um 12:31 schrieb Samuel Thibault:

Simon Kainz, on ven. 26 mai 2017 11:10:17 +0200, wrote:

Am 2017-05-26 um 11:00 schrieb Samuel Thibault:

Simon Kainz, on ven. 26 mai 2017 10:56:11 +0200, wrote:

i substituted almost all libraries with already packaged debian
libraries,

Cool!


* jodconverter-3.0-NX.orig.jar

There is already a jodconverter package, we can upgrade it to version 3.

Just a small update:

I packaged the 3.0 version of jodconverter, taken from [0]. This is
currently only availabe locally, i will try to check if everything works
as expected before i push it into the repo.

I am now also able to build natbraille-2.2rc1 against the new
jodconverter package. Natbraille seems to work, as far as i can see. (My
french is not very good, btw.)

There are another, probably newer versions on github, eg [1] which seems
to be more active concerning development, OTOH it features a different
package base name and also misses some classes. So i think it is ok to
use this version, because it it currently only used by natbraille.

I also contacted Vivien for the source of natbraille-soffice-1.0-.. jar
file, and we are getting closer.

Another issue is the saxon9* stuff from the /lib dir vs the saxonb libs
packages for debian - i found the patches in natbraille 2.0rc3 and will
incorporate them.

So just a small update.

Regards,






Has there already some work being done?

Not that I know of :)


I see you are the current maintainer. OTOH, i will upgrade it if you
don't mind.

I'm a maintainer, yes, but I welcome help :)

Samuel


[0] https://code.google.com/archive/p/jodconverter/
[1] https://github.com/sbraconnier/jodconverter/releases

Bug#859957: Fwd: Bug#859957: natbraille: ftbfs without networking

[Simon Kainz]

Am 2017-05-26 um 12:31 schrieb Samuel Thibault:
> Simon Kainz, on ven. 26 mai 2017 11:10:17 +0200, wrote:
>> Am 2017-05-26 um 11:00 schrieb Samuel Thibault:
>>> Simon Kainz, on ven. 26 mai 2017 10:56:11 +0200, wrote:
 i substituted almost all libraries with already packaged debian
 libraries,
>>>
>>> Cool!
>>>
 * jodconverter-3.0-NX.orig.jar
>>>
>>> There is already a jodconverter package, we can upgrade it to version 3.

Just a small update:

I packaged the 3.0 version of jodconverter, taken from [0]. This is
currently only availabe locally, i will try to check if everything works
as expected before i push it into the repo.

I am now also able to build natbraille-2.2rc1 against the new
jodconverter package. Natbraille seems to work, as far as i can see. (My
french is not very good, btw.)

There are another, probably newer versions on github, eg [1] which seems
to be more active concerning development, OTOH it features a different
package base name and also misses some classes. So i think it is ok to
use this version, because it it currently only used by natbraille.

I also contacted Vivien for the source of natbraille-soffice-1.0-.. jar
file, and we are getting closer.

Another issue is the saxon9* stuff from the /lib dir vs the saxonb libs
packages for debian - i found the patches in natbraille 2.0rc3 and will
incorporate them.

So just a small update.

Regards,





>>
>> Has there already some work being done?
> 
> Not that I know of :)
> 
>> I see you are the current maintainer. OTOH, i will upgrade it if you
>> don't mind.
> 
> I'm a maintainer, yes, but I welcome help :)
> 
> Samuel
> 

[0] https://code.google.com/archive/p/jodconverter/
[1] https://github.com/sbraconnier/jodconverter/releases

Bug#859957: Fwd: Bug#859957: natbraille: ftbfs without networking

[Samuel Thibault]

Simon Kainz, on ven. 26 mai 2017 11:10:17 +0200, wrote:
> Am 2017-05-26 um 11:00 schrieb Samuel Thibault:
> > Simon Kainz, on ven. 26 mai 2017 10:56:11 +0200, wrote:
> >> i substituted almost all libraries with already packaged debian
> >> libraries,
> > 
> > Cool!
> > 
> >> * jodconverter-3.0-NX.orig.jar
> > 
> > There is already a jodconverter package, we can upgrade it to version 3.
> 
> Has there already some work being done?

Not that I know of :)

> I see you are the current maintainer. OTOH, i will upgrade it if you
> don't mind.

I'm a maintainer, yes, but I welcome help :)

Samuel

Bug#859957: Fwd: Bug#859957: natbraille: ftbfs without networking

[Samuel Thibault]

Simon Kainz, on ven. 26 mai 2017 10:56:11 +0200, wrote:
> i substituted almost all libraries with already packaged debian
> libraries,

Cool!

> * jodconverter-3.0-NX.orig.jar

There is already a jodconverter package, we can upgrade it to version 3.

> * saxon9.jar
> * saxon9he.jar

In the current package, we use saxonb instead.

> * natbraille-soffice-1.0-SNAPSHOT-jar-with-dependencies.jar
> 
> I did not find the source for
> natbraille-soffice-1.0-SNAPSHOT-jar-with-dependencies.jar. Where does
> this library come from? What is it's license ?

No idea :)

Thanks,
Samuel

Bug#859957: Fwd: Bug#859957: natbraille: ftbfs without networking

[Simon Kainz]

Am 2017-05-23 um 22:55 schrieb Bruno Mascret:
> Hello,
> 
> Thanks Simon for your contribution!
>>> is someone working on this?
>>
>> Not that I know of.
>>
> If someone explain me how to maintain a package (or give me the link to
> learn how to do it), I may work on it.
> As Natbraille's project leader I may change some lines of code to
> guarantee the compliance with debian policy.

I am currently working on packaging 2.2rc1. Making small steps, but it
looks promising. I will contact you if i hit some problems.

Regards,

> 
> Best regards,
> Bruno
> 
> Le 23/05/2017 à 21:40, Samuel Thibault a écrit :
>> Hello,
>>
>> Simon Kainz, on mar. 23 mai 2017 21:32:27 +0200, wrote:
 - where to download the sources for all the dependencies from
>>> is someone working on this?
>> Not that I know of.
>>
 - whether JHALL is available under a DFSG licence.
>>> well,
>>>
>>> here
>>> https://sourceforge.net/p/freemind/discussion/22102/thread/31ad7b83/ it
>>> says jhall.jar is shipped by JavaHelp2 which is already in Debian:
>>>
>>> https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/javahelp2
>>>
>>> Or do i get something wrong here?
>> No, that looks right.
>>
>> Samuel
>>
>>
> 

Bug#859957: Fwd: Bug#859957: natbraille: ftbfs without networking

[Bruno Mascret]

Hello,

Thanks Simon for your contribution!

is someone working on this?


Not that I know of.

If someone explain me how to maintain a package (or give me the link to 
learn how to do it), I may work on it.
As Natbraille's project leader I may change some lines of code to 
guarantee the compliance with debian policy.


Best regards,
Bruno

Le 23/05/2017 à 21:40, Samuel Thibault a écrit :

Hello,

Simon Kainz, on mar. 23 mai 2017 21:32:27 +0200, wrote:

- where to download the sources for all the dependencies from

is someone working on this?

Not that I know of.


- whether JHALL is available under a DFSG licence.

well,

here
https://sourceforge.net/p/freemind/discussion/22102/thread/31ad7b83/ it
says jhall.jar is shipped by JavaHelp2 which is already in Debian:

https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/javahelp2

Or do i get something wrong here?

No, that looks right.

Samuel

Bug#859957: Fwd: Bug#859957: natbraille: ftbfs without networking

[Samuel Thibault]

Hello,

Simon Kainz, on mar. 23 mai 2017 21:32:27 +0200, wrote:
> > - where to download the sources for all the dependencies from
> 
> is someone working on this?

Not that I know of.

> > - whether JHALL is available under a DFSG licence.
> 
> well,
> 
> here
> https://sourceforge.net/p/freemind/discussion/22102/thread/31ad7b83/ it
> says jhall.jar is shipped by JavaHelp2 which is already in Debian:
> 
> https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/javahelp2
> 
> Or do i get something wrong here?

No, that looks right.

Samuel

Bug#859957: Fwd: Bug#859957: natbraille: ftbfs without networking

[Simon Kainz]

On Mon, 17 Apr 2017 21:00:53 +0200 Samuel Thibault
 wrote:
> Alex ARNAUD, on lun. 10 avril 2017 13:25:09 +0200, wrote:
> > Le 10/04/2017 à 12:30, Bruno Mascret a écrit :
> > > Samuel released the 2.0rc3-4 verison, but there is maybe a problem for
> > > the next ones?
> > 
> > Samuel : Could you tell us why you have an older release of Natbraille into
> > Debian ?
> 
> Because the newer version needs yet more dependencies, whose freeness
> was to be determined, then packaged, etc. I just never got around taking
> the time to actually do it. My very little knowledge of Java packaging
> doesn't help of course.
> 
> Unfortunately discussions about it happened privately in French with
> Djidjo, so I can't just show the discussion (that's the problem of
> not just always discussing in bug reports). From my notes, I see the
> following remaining questions:
> 
> - where to download the sources for all the dependencies from

is someone working on this?

> - whether JHALL is available under a DFSG licence.

well,

here
https://sourceforge.net/p/freemind/discussion/22102/thread/31ad7b83/ it
says jhall.jar is shipped by JavaHelp2 which is already in Debian:

https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/javahelp2

Or do i get something wrong here?

> - the JSON dependency could probably be avoided by disabling the support
>   for openoffice, which isn't packaged in Debian any more anyway.
> 
> > Do you need help to upgrade NatBraille to the new one ?
> 
> Completely. I realize the answer Djidjo was already 2 years ago...
> 
> Samuel
> 

Simon

Bug#859957: Fwd: Bug#859957: natbraille: ftbfs without networking

[Samuel Thibault]

Alex ARNAUD, on lun. 10 avril 2017 13:25:09 +0200, wrote:
> Le 10/04/2017 à 12:30, Bruno Mascret a écrit :
> > Samuel released the 2.0rc3-4 verison, but there is maybe a problem for
> > the next ones?
> 
> Samuel : Could you tell us why you have an older release of Natbraille into
> Debian ?

Because the newer version needs yet more dependencies, whose freeness
was to be determined, then packaged, etc. I just never got around taking
the time to actually do it. My very little knowledge of Java packaging
doesn't help of course.

Unfortunately discussions about it happened privately in French with
Djidjo, so I can't just show the discussion (that's the problem of
not just always discussing in bug reports). From my notes, I see the
following remaining questions:

- where to download the sources for all the dependencies from
- whether JHALL is available under a DFSG licence.
- the JSON dependency could probably be avoided by disabling the support
  for openoffice, which isn't packaged in Debian any more anyway.

> Do you need help to upgrade NatBraille to the new one ?

Completely. I realize the answer Djidjo was already 2 years ago...

Samuel

Bug#859957: Fwd: Bug#859957: natbraille: ftbfs without networking

[Bruno Mascret]

Hello Alex,

Le 10/04/2017 à 13:25, Alex ARNAUD a écrit :

Is the new natbraille works on GNU/Linux also ?

Of course!
Even more: some functionalities work only with linux ;-)



We 'll try to do our best to publish an updated version of the
softwares, if someone could help we 'll appreciate!


It will be great indeed.
Natbraille's version are available at 
http://natbraille.free.fr/index.php?lang=fr=down.php


Best regards,
Bruno

Bug#859957: Fwd: Bug#859957: natbraille: ftbfs without networking

[Alex ARNAUD]

Le 10/04/2017 à 12:30, Bruno Mascret a écrit :

The Natbraille's version in the repositories is an old one, and should
be updated but nobody is working on it.


Is the new natbraille works on GNU/Linux also ?


We 'll try to do our best to publish an updated version of the
softwares, if someone could help we 'll appreciate!


It will be great indeed.


Samuel released the 2.0rc3-4 verison, but there is maybe a problem for
the next ones?


Samuel : Could you tell us why you have an older release of Natbraille 
into Debian ? Do you need help to upgrade NatBraille to the new one ?


Best regards.
--
Alex ARNAUD
Visual-Impairment Project Manager
Hypra - "Humanizing technology"

Bug#859957: Fwd: Bug#859957: natbraille: ftbfs without networking

[Bruno Mascret]

Dear Chris,


Thanks for this bug report.

I transfert it to the natbraille's dev team.


The Natbraille's version in the repositories is an old one, and should 
be updated but nobody is working on it.


We 'll try to do our best to publish an updated version of the 
softwares, if someone could help we 'll appreciate!



Samuel released the 2.0rc3-4 verison, but there is maybe a problem for 
the next ones?



Best regards,

Bruno



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Sujet : Bug#859957: natbraille: ftbfs without networking
Date de renvoi :Sun, 09 Apr 2017 17:21:01 +
De (renvoi) :   Chris West 
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Date :  Sun, 9 Apr 2017 18:19:51 +0100
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Source: natbraille
Version: 2.0rc3-4
User: reproducible-bui...@lists.alioth.debian.org
Usertags: ftbfs


natbraille fails to build from source on machines without an internet
connection. This is generally accepted to be a policy violation:

** Utilisation du dictionnaire de coupure existant

D?but de la conversion du document ...

java.net.UnknownHostException: www.w3.org
...
at org.apache.xerces.impl.XMLEntityManager.setupCurrentEntity(Unknown 
Source)
at org.apache.xerces.impl.XMLEntityManager.startEntity(Unknown Source)
...

This happens on the reproducible-builds builder:
https://tests.reproducible-builds.org/debian/rb-pkg/unstable/amd64/natbraille.html