Re: Disabling orca lightdm-gtk-greeter
Hi Samuel, On 1/3/2018 4:42 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote: Hello, john doe, on mer. 03 janv. 2018 16:21:08 +0100, wrote: Has explained in a previous thread I install Debian for sited user I'm afraid I just can't manage to remember all of what is happening here and there, there are just too many mails in my mbox. No problem -- That's why I took the liberty to put it back in context! Now I do remember the thread about adding a debconf question in the debian installer, but so many things happened and made its way to my mbox in the meanwhile (like a hundred of mails, litteraly) that it's far away in my head, unless you link things by reusing the same mail thread. It's actually a new thread with a new question. I simply answerd your question. That's why I disable speakup/orca from autamatically speaking but I need to keep orca/speakup when I help them. So you basically need both, actually. As a short-term solution in your case, is having to modify something on the filesystem (renaming a file somewhere in /usr or /var etc.) fine enough? I'm fine with the help from the list and some online searching. Actually, on the long run what we'd want is sort of the contrary to disabling orca :) be able to enable orca one-shot at the DM. IIRC, there are DM shortcuts to start orca? At least I believe that's what we should aim for. I'm fine eatherway and What I want is atypical: 1) Without using expert mode things should stay as it is. 2) Using expert mode the user could choose what he wants. I must say I never understood why installing Debian with accessibility would assume that accessibility should be enabled at boot on the installed system. Well, at the very very very least the first reboot should have it enabled, otherwise it's dumb to have accessibility during installation but not right after: install something, but not have hands on it after the fact. Depends of the priority used. If priority 'low' is used the installer should never assumed but ask for everything. I realy appreciate your help, Samuel. -- John Doe
Re: Disabling orca lightdm-gtk-greeter
Hello, john doe, on mer. 03 janv. 2018 16:21:08 +0100, wrote: > Has explained in a previous thread I install Debian for sited user I'm afraid I just can't manage to remember all of what is happening here and there, there are just too many mails in my mbox. Now I do remember the thread about adding a debconf question in the debian installer, but so many things happened and made its way to my mbox in the meanwhile (like a hundred of mails, litteraly) that it's far away in my head, unless you link things by reusing the same mail thread. > That's why I disable speakup/orca from autamatically speaking but I need to > keep orca/speakup when I help them. So you basically need both, actually. As a short-term solution in your case, is having to modify something on the filesystem (renaming a file somewhere in /usr or /var etc.) fine enough? Actually, on the long run what we'd want is sort of the contrary to disabling orca :) be able to enable orca one-shot at the DM. IIRC, there are DM shortcuts to start orca? At least I believe that's what we should aim for. > I must say I never understood why installing Debian with accessibility would > assume that accessibility should be enabled at boot on the installed system. Well, at the very very very least the first reboot should have it enabled, otherwise it's dumb to have accessibility during installation but not right after: install something, but not have hands on it after the fact. Samuel
Re: Disabling orca lightdm-gtk-greeter
On 1/3/2018 3:24 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote: Hello, john doe, on mar. 02 janv. 2018 17:26:44 +0100, wrote: How can I disable orca at lightdm-gtk-greeter? I guess you can type insert-Q to make Orca quit? Basically, I want to disable orca at the prompt where I need to enter my credentials before logging into 'MATE'. Just wondering: why do you want to do this? IIRC Orca doesn't speak the password letters, just "bullet" or something like that, which is actually useful to make sure that the password is getting typed correctly (and not showing up in some other part of the login screen...) No argument there , it is working as it should. Has explained in a previous thread I install Debian for sited user and those users don't need orca speaking to them!!! :) That's why I disable speakup/orca from autamatically speaking but I need to keep orca/speakup when I help them. I must say I never understood why installing Debian with accessibility would assume that accessibility should be enabled at boot on the installed system. I'm playing with kernel boot parameter, could the following do what I want? boot install DEBIAN_FRONTEND=text priority=low speakup.synth=soft I'm open to any suggestions. -- John Doe
Re: Disabling orca lightdm-gtk-greeter
Samuel Thibault, on mer. 03 janv. 2018 15:24:19 +0100, wrote: > john doe, on mar. 02 janv. 2018 17:26:44 +0100, wrote: > > How can I disable orca at lightdm-gtk-greeter? > > I guess you can type insert-Q to make Orca quit? Alternatively, I guess insert-s can turn speech off temporarily. Samuel
Re: Disabling orca lightdm-gtk-greeter
Hello, john doe, on mar. 02 janv. 2018 17:26:44 +0100, wrote: > How can I disable orca at lightdm-gtk-greeter? I guess you can type insert-Q to make Orca quit? > Basically, I want to disable orca at the prompt where I need to enter my > credentials before logging into 'MATE'. Just wondering: why do you want to do this? IIRC Orca doesn't speak the password letters, just "bullet" or something like that, which is actually useful to make sure that the password is getting typed correctly (and not showing up in some other part of the login screen...) Samuel
Re: Disabling orca lightdm-gtk-greeter
On 1/2/2018 9:54 PM, Alex ARNAUD wrote: Le 02/01/2018 à 17:26, john doe a écrit : Hi list, How can I disable orca at lightdm-gtk-greeter? Basically, I want to disable orca at the prompt where I need to enter my credentials before logging into 'MATE'. Hello John, I use the following command on Debian to remove Orca on lightdm : sudo mv /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/80_orca-dm-wrapper.conf /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/80_orca-dm-wrapper.conf.save && sudo mv /etc/xdg/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/80_orca-dm-wrapper.conf /etc/xdg/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/80_orca-dm-wrapper.conf.save Thanks Alex -- It works! :) I only had to do it for the second path though. Could be something for the wiki along with the following: Turning orca off when logged in: In startup applications From menu System> Preferences > Personal > Startup Applications uncheck orca [image]. -- John Doe
Re: Disabling orca lightdm-gtk-greeter
Le 02/01/2018 à 17:26, john doe a écrit : Hi list, How can I disable orca at lightdm-gtk-greeter? Basically, I want to disable orca at the prompt where I need to enter my credentials before logging into 'MATE'. Hello John, I use the following command on Debian to remove Orca on lightdm : sudo mv /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/80_orca-dm-wrapper.conf /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/80_orca-dm-wrapper.conf.save && sudo mv /etc/xdg/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/80_orca-dm-wrapper.conf /etc/xdg/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/80_orca-dm-wrapper.conf.save Best regards. -- Alex ARNAUD Visual-Impairment Project Manager Hypra - "Humanizing technology"
