Re: Exim4 in Debian?
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Re: Exim4 in Debian?
-Original Message- From: Samuel Thibault To: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Exim4 in Debian? Date: 04/26/24 13:51:02 Chime Hart, le ven. 26 avril 2024 10:23:33 -0700, a ecrit: > I am noticing here in Debian SID that packages I use > regularly are mysteriously vanishing. SID is what it is: unstable. At the moment there is a huge upgrade to 64bit time_t which makes various packages non-installable, and thus apt has a hard time finding another solution than just removing packages. If you don't want instability, please use the testing distribution. Thank you, Samuel! I didn't pursue the "why", but I knew I'd seen chatter about that "t64" that many package upgrades are referencing. Now I understand. For what it's worth, I'm on Trixie which had a couple hundred packages caught up in that over the last few days. I was bored this morning so I messed with ihe upgrade a couple packages at a time. Most packages finally upgraded, but there are still a few holdouts that refuse to install without purging my LXQt desktop environment first. Nope, don't want that to happen, grin. At one point, apt-get wanted to remove gdb (debugging) by itself. I knew I had manually installed that package so I let it be removed. I reinstalled gdb as the very next step, and a bunch of packages on developer hold suddenly also wanted upgraded without any further problems. That was a nice bonus that I've seen happen in the past. For what it's worth, I haven't rebooted yet. Not ashamed to say I'm a little afraid to just this second while things are still working well. Cindy :) DISCLAIMER: This is my first listserv reply using Evolution after Gmail dumped their old, simple web based format. My apologies in advance if there are any major formatting glitches in this response. This little side adventure sure has had its own learning curve. :) -- Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA * runs with birdseed *
Re: Exim4 in Debian?
Hi Chime, In response to the first part of your message, quoted in part below for context: the default UI output format of apt has indeed changed, however if you use the apt-get command (note the dash get suffix, without a space) then it should continue to emit the previous format that you are familiar with. Neither of the two formats are guaranteed to remain static, but at the moment both are available. Please include me on any replies if required because I am not subscribed to this mailing list. Questions related to usage of Debian utilities may in some cases be better resolved by using the debian-user mailing list, however I do think there is an accessibility aspect to this thread. On Fri, 26 Apr 2024 10:23:33 -0700, Chime wrote (line-trimmed): > Hi All: First of all, maybe 2weeks ago Debian altered an upgrade dialogue. > While I preferred the previous one, this one mentions available space which > may be a factor. Thanks, James
Re: Exim4 in Debian?
Chime Hart, le ven. 26 avril 2024 11:31:35 -0700, a ecrit: > And just curious, are their any Debian distros which have later > kernels like Arch? You cannot have the latest bleeding edge without bleeding. Really, leave a bit of time to software, and you'll suffer less. Samuel
Re: Exim4 in Debian?
Well, thank you Samuel, I guess my `obsession in wanting the latest packages gets the best of me. Now, in the past I had found an alternative package manager which was supposedly better at dealing with dipendancies? And just curious, are their any Debian distros which have later kernels like Arch? On a laptop in Arch I have 6.8.7. Thanks in advance Chime
Re: Exim4 in Debian?
Hello, Chime Hart, le ven. 26 avril 2024 10:23:33 -0700, a ecrit: > I am noticing here in Debian SID that packages I use > regularly are mysteriously vanishing. SID is what it is: unstable. At the moment there is a huge upgrade to 64bit time_t which makes various packages non-installable, and thus apt has a hard time finding another solution than just removing packages. If you don't want instability, please use the testing distribution. Samuel
Exim4 in Debian?
Hi All: First of all, maybe 2weeks ago Debian altered an upgrade dialogue. While I preferred the previous one, this one mentions available space which may be a factor. Next, I am noticing here in Debian SID that packages I use regularly are mysteriously vanishing. Maybe sometimes in a long list of an autoremove or even a just plain remove among my daily updates. For many weeks I was having issues with Alpine-and-mail folders. Well, among removing-and-re-installing trn4 I had been missing exim4. Once that was installed again, now my mail works well. Just today while trying to trouble-shoot issues with youtube-viewer, to my surprise git was gone, so I manually installed. I would like to offer a suggestion. Why not have an interacative flag such as an -i in apt which would offer a numbered menu of packages to be upgraded or removed? We could either select numbers from that menu either to exclude or accept. Lets say there are 28 packages to remove, menu number 29 could be for all, while typing combinations of those first 28 would better protect against packages going in a Bermuda Triangle. I surely don't mind an upgrade or replacement, but nuking a package which is still available, well, that may not be helpful. Thanks so much for listening. Chime
