Re: Orca autostart problem

2017-09-24 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, on lun. 25 sept. 2017 01:37:19 +0200, wrote:
> Samuel Thibault, on dim. 17 sept. 2017 23:11:17 +0200, wrote:
> > Ok, it seems there is also incompatibility with lightdm.
> 
> Ah, no. The registryd daemon remains behind, but it does not actually
> hurt the Orca startup, at least on systems installed with the Debian
> Installer. I'll now check with live-installed systems.

It does work with the live-installed system.

So I really guess the only issue was that the documented dbus command
were typed as root instead of as normal user.

Samuel



Re: Orca autostart problem

2017-09-24 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, on dim. 17 sept. 2017 23:11:17 +0200, wrote:
> Ok, it seems there is also incompatibility with lightdm.

Ah, no. The registryd daemon remains behind, but it does not actually
hurt the Orca startup, at least on systems installed with the Debian
Installer. I'll now check with live-installed systems.

Samuel



Re: Orca autostart problem

2017-09-24 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello,

Luke Yelavich, on lun. 18 sept. 2017 07:44:06 +1000, wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 07:11:17AM AEST, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> > Ok, it seems there is also incompatibility with lightdm.
> 
> I wonder whether this linked bug is the culpret.
> 
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1670933

Well, yes and no. Of course all these issues about starting at-spi
within lightdm are related, and the approach you propose should be
solving everything, but here Egon is talking about Debian stable, which
AIUI doesn't have a systemd service file for the registry, so the
approach wouldn't work.

But patches/01_at-spi.patch in stable should be handling this, by just
always starting at-spi from lightdm itself, allowing it to shut it down
properly before the user session. It does work when installing with
brltty or speakup enabled, I don't know yet why it doesn't otherwise.

Samuel



Re: Orca autostart problem

2017-09-17 Thread Luke Yelavich
On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 07:11:17AM AEST, Samuel Thibault wrote:
> Ok, it seems there is also incompatibility with lightdm.

I wonder whether this linked bug is the culpret.

https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1670933

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Re: Orca autostart problem

2017-09-17 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello,

Egon, on lun. 11 sept. 2017 03:33:14 +0200, wrote:
> eval $(dbus-launch); export DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS DBUS_SESSION_BUS_PID
> GSETTINGS_BACKEND=dconf gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.a11y.applications
> screen-reader-enabled true
> GSETTINGS_BACKEND=dconf gsettings set org.mate.interface accessibility true
> But it does not help.

Just to make sure: did you run these as root or normal user? They have
to be run as normal user.

Samuel



Re: Orca autostart problem

2017-09-11 Thread Alex ARNAUD

Le 11/09/2017 à 07:59, Egon a écrit :

Hi!


Hi!


How can I put Orca in my startup programs or preferred programs?

Will it be fixed if i reinstall the system choosing a "Installer with 
speech synthesizer support"?


The most simple way is to go to the startup application and add Orca to 
it. In the name you can type Orca and in the command you have to type 
"orca" in lower case.


Best regards.
--
Alex ARNAUD



Re: Orca autostart problem

2017-09-11 Thread Alex ARNAUD

Le 11/09/2017 à 07:59, Egon a écrit :

Hi!


Hi!


How can I put Orca in my startup programs or preferred programs?

Will it be fixed if i reinstall the system choosing a "Installer with 
speech synthesizer support"?


The most simple way is to go to the startup application and add Orca to 
it. In the name you can type Orca and in the command you have to type 
"orca" in lower case.


Best regards.
--
Alex ARNAUD
Visual-Impairment Project Manager
Hypra - "Humanizing technology"



Re: Orca autostart problem

2017-09-11 Thread Egon

Hi!


How can I put Orca in my startup programs or preferred programs?

Will it be fixed if i reinstall the system choosing a "Installer with 
speech synthesizer support"?


I installed it without speech, somebody reads me the screen...


Best regards: Egon




Re: Orca autostart problem

2017-09-10 Thread Jude DaShiell
is orca in your startup programs or preferred programs?  On Mon, 11 Sep 
2017, Egon wrote:



Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2017 22:20:33
From: Egon <cvimai...@gmail.com>
To: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Orca autostart problem
Resent-Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2017 02:20:52 + (UTC)
Resent-From: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org

Hi!


Yes, i tried. But it does not work.

In the controlpanel, Orca starts automatically (checked) but it does not 
speak until I manual start it. :-(



Egon




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Re: Orca autostart problem

2017-09-10 Thread Egon

Hi!


Yes, i tried. But it does not work.

In the controlpanel, Orca starts automatically (checked) but it does not 
speak until I manual start it. :-(



Egon