Re: add accessibility section to "List of sections" pages?

[Samuel Thibault]

Paul Wise, le mar. 25 févr. 2020 08:54:22 +0800, a ecrit:
> On Mon, 2020-02-24 at 07:51 -0800, Rich Morin wrote:
> 
> > In response, I received the following suggestions from Paul Wise:
> > 
> > > One against each of the relevant packages asking to update the section.
> 
> FTR, I'm not entirely sure this is necessary, ISTR that section
> mismatches between the archive and packages are reported on
> tracker.debian.org, so maybe leave filing these bugs for a while.

Also, most of these packages are handled by the whole accessibility
team, so better mail the mailing list for us to change each package, and
not have to look for which package should close which bug :)

Samuel

Re: add accessibility section to "List of sections" pages?

[Paul Wise]

On Mon, 2020-02-24 at 07:51 -0800, Rich Morin wrote:

> In response, I received the following suggestions from Paul Wise:
> 
> > One against each of the relevant packages asking to update the section.

FTR, I'm not entirely sure this is necessary, ISTR that section
mismatches between the archive and packages are reported on
tracker.debian.org, so maybe leave filing these bugs for a while.

-- 
bye,
pabs

https://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise


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Re: add accessibility section to "List of sections" pages?

[Samuel Thibault]

Rich Morin, le lun. 24 févr. 2020 10:34:17 -0800, a ecrit:
> > On Feb 24, 2020, at 10:26, Samuel Thibault  wrote:
> > 
> > Actually, we already had this idea in the past :)
> > 
> > See the "Accessibility archive section?" section of 
> > https://wiki.debian.org/accessibility-devel
> > (probably there are more to put there nowadays)
> > 
> > I don't remember any reason for not proceeding with it (except lack of
> > time)
> 
> If you can lay out a road map for what needs to be done, I'd be happy to help.

I believe the plan you made was exactly what I'd have in mind :)

Perhaps prepend a step "update the list on the accessibility-devel
wiki" before submitting it to a bug against ftp.debian.org: there are
possibly packages that were removed, and probably packages that were
added. As somebody mentioned, there is also the list of packages in
the blend task which could have some items to be added (though not all
of them: cups-filters, compiz, xcalib for instance are not just about
accessibility)

Samuel

Re: add accessibility section to "List of sections" pages?

[Rich Morin]

> On Feb 24, 2020, at 10:26, Samuel Thibault  wrote:
> 
> Actually, we already had this idea in the past :)
> 
> See the "Accessibility archive section?" section of 
> https://wiki.debian.org/accessibility-devel
> (probably there are more to put there nowadays)
> 
> I don't remember any reason for not proceeding with it (except lack of
> time)

If you can lay out a road map for what needs to be done, I'd be happy to help.

-r

Re: add accessibility section to "List of sections" pages?

[Samuel Thibault]

Hello,

Rich Morin, le lun. 24 févr. 2020 07:51:32 -0800, a ecrit:
> I recently wrote the following note to debian-...@lists.debian.org:
> 
> > The Debian "List of sections" pages (eg, 
> > https://packages.debian.org/stable) have no section for accessibility.  
> > Please consider adding one, listing such packages as BRLTTY, Emacspeak, and 
> > Orca.  If it helps, I'd be happy to help in assembling a starting point for 
> > the package list.
> 
> In response, I received the following suggestions from Paul Wise:
> 
> > I believe that this list is based on the list of sections defined in
> > the Debian archive:
> > 
> > https://salsa.debian.org/ftp-team/dak/blob/master/setup/core-init.d/020_sections
> 
> This seems quite plausible, looking at the file.
> 
> > Please discuss that with the accessibility team:
> > 
> > https://wiki.debian.org/accessibility-devel
> 
> I assume that this list is the right place to start doing that.

Yes.

> > I think the needed action here is to report some bugs:
> > 
> > https://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting
> > 
> > One against ftp.debian.org asking to create the section.
> > 
> > One against ftp.debian.org asking to override the section for the
> > relevant packages.
> > 
> > https://bugs.debian.org/ftp.debian.org
> > 
> > One against each of the relevant packages asking to update the section.
> > 
> > One against www.debian.org (usertagged for packages.debian.org) asking
> > to add the accessibility section description.
> 
> Before I start filing bug reports, I'd like to find out if folks here are in 
> favor of this idea and perhaps enlist some assistance in making it happen.  
> Hence this note...

Actually, we already had this idea in the past :)

See the "Accessibility archive section?" section of 
https://wiki.debian.org/accessibility-devel
(probably there are more to put there nowadays)

I don't remember any reason for not proceeding with it (except lack of
time)

Samuel

Re: add accessibility section to "List of sections" pages?

[Jude DaShiell]

Probably not necessary.  It's possible to switch from stable to testing
or to sid on post-install by editing /etc/apt-get/sources.list.  You
will have a mixed distribution for a while until all updates have got
completed using apt dist-update.

On Mon, 24 Feb 2020, Chime Hart wrote:

> Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2020 11:41:40
> From: Chime Hart 
> To: Rich Morin 
> Cc: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org, Paul Wise ,
> Alex ARNAUD 
> Subject: Re: add accessibility section to "List of sections" pages?
> Resent-Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2020 16:50:12 + (UTC)
> Resent-From: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org
>
> As a Debian user, but not a programmer, I would suggest an accessability
> section from each branch, so whether I select testing or Sid, I could find an
> access link-and-section. Thanks so much in advance
> Chime
>
>

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Re: add accessibility section to "List of sections" pages?

[Chime Hart]

As a Debian user, but not a programmer, I would suggest an accessability section 
from each branch, so whether I select testing or Sid, I could find an access 
link-and-section. Thanks so much in advance

Chime

Re: add accessibility section to "List of sections" pages?

[Rich Morin]

> On Feb 24, 2020, at 08:15, Alex ARNAUD  wrote:
> 
> Which sections are you referring to? On packages.debian.org I'm seeing only 
> "main", "contrib" and "non-free" sections.

Sorry, I seem to have pasted in the wrong URL.  Please try this one, instead:

https://packages.debian.org/stable/

-r

Re: add accessibility section to "List of sections" pages?

[Alex ARNAUD]

Le 24/02/2020 à 16:51, Rich Morin a écrit :

I recently wrote the following note todebian-...@lists.debian.org:


The Debian "List of sections" pages (eg,https://packages.debian.org/stable) 
have no section for accessibility.  Please consider adding one, listing such packages as 
BRLTTY, Emacspeak, and Orca.  If it helps, I'd be happy to help in assembling a starting 
point for the package list.
I'm aware of this "list" 
 already available. It's 
mostly a maintainer list.


Which sections are you referring to? On packages.debian.org I'm seeing 
only "main", "contrib" and "non-free" sections.


Best regards.

add accessibility section to "List of sections" pages?

[Rich Morin]

I recently wrote the following note to debian-...@lists.debian.org:

> The Debian "List of sections" pages (eg, https://packages.debian.org/stable) 
> have no section for accessibility.  Please consider adding one, listing such 
> packages as BRLTTY, Emacspeak, and Orca.  If it helps, I'd be happy to help 
> in assembling a starting point for the package list.

In response, I received the following suggestions from Paul Wise:

> I believe that this list is based on the list of sections defined in
> the Debian archive:
> 
> https://salsa.debian.org/ftp-team/dak/blob/master/setup/core-init.d/020_sections

This seems quite plausible, looking at the file.

> Please discuss that with the accessibility team:
> 
> https://wiki.debian.org/accessibility-devel

I assume that this list is the right place to start doing that.

> I think the needed action here is to report some bugs:
> 
> https://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting
> 
> One against ftp.debian.org asking to create the section.
> 
> One against ftp.debian.org asking to override the section for the
> relevant packages.
> 
> https://bugs.debian.org/ftp.debian.org
> 
> One against each of the relevant packages asking to update the section.
> 
> One against www.debian.org (usertagged for packages.debian.org) asking
> to add the accessibility section description.

Before I start filing bug reports, I'd like to find out if folks here are in 
favor of this idea and perhaps enlist some assistance in making it happen.  
Hence this note...

-r