Re: xclip problem

2017-12-23 Thread Jude DaShiell
As of now, I removed the entire graphical user environment from this 
disk since I was getting too much keyboard latency and probably install 
it later then I will return to this problem.  Before that, I'll try all 
of this with a system that doesn't use startx to run the graphical user 
environment and see if I get lucky in there.  For those that use startx 
to start their graphical user environments, does a way exist to stop the 
graphical user environment and return to command line environment short 
of powering down the system?


On Sat, 23 Dec 2017, john doe wrote:


Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2017 23:32:26
From: john doe <johndoe65...@mail.com>
To: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: xclip problem
Resent-Date: Sat, 23 Dec 2017 04:32:45 + (UTC)
Resent-From: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org

On 12/22/2017 9:38 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:

 I tried all of this in a terminal and got :0.0 for the DISPLAY value. So I
 exported DISPLAY=:0.0 then ran xclip and xclip errored out because it
 couldn't find DISPLAY :0.0.



From:

https://github.com/astrand/xclip

"* Connects to the X display in $DISPLAY, or specified with -display host:0"

What happened if you don't set the DISPLAY variable (post the error if any 
along with the command and where are you executing/entering it)?


Are you on Debian 9 (Stretch)?

Why do you need 'xclip' and what are you trying  to accomplish?


 On Fri, 22 Dec 2017, john doe wrote:


 Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2017 14:29:42
 From: john doe <johndoe65...@mail.com>
 To: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org
 Subject: Re: xclip problem
 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2017 19:30:01 + (UTC)
 Resent-From: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org

 On 12/22/2017 7:56 PM, Paul Gevers wrote:

 ?Hi Jude,

 ?On 22-12-17 19:26, Jude DaShiell wrote:

 ?as near as I can tell, echo does not work when used after alt-f2 in a
 ?text command.


 ?Just tried, for me it works (in KDE).



 I don't use mate but if it is like gnome:

 From:

 https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/GnomeShell/CheatSheet

 "Alt+F2 allows entering a command to launch an application."


 So from now on could you enter the commands in a terminal?

 There is no need to redirect the output of 'echo $DISPLAY' to a file.


 ?I also found out it's
 ?necessary to use touch to create a file first before anything can be
 ?sent to that file.


 ?That is absolutely not normal.



 As Paul said, something is very rong here.










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Re: xclip problem

2017-12-22 Thread john doe

On 12/23/2017 5:32 AM, john doe wrote:

On 12/22/2017 9:38 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
I tried all of this in a terminal and got :0.0 for the DISPLAY value. 
So I exported DISPLAY=:0.0 then ran xclip and xclip errored out 
because it couldn't find DISPLAY :0.0.




From:

https://github.com/astrand/xclip

"* Connects to the X display in $DISPLAY, or specified with -display 
host:0"


What happened if you don't set the DISPLAY variable (post the error if 
any along with the command and where are you executing/entering it)?


Are you on Debian 9 (Stretch)?

Why do you need 'xclip' and what are you trying  to accomplish?



Alt F2 in MATE could run the command in a terminal if you select the 
appropriate option ('ALT F2' then press twice the tab key and press the 
space bar to activate the 'Run in a terminal' option).


Single and duble quotes are frequently used to indicate the command to run.


The utility 'xclip' works as expected with the package provided by Debian 9.

It looks like you have some issues on your system.
Can you do a fresh install of Debian 9?


On Fri, 22 Dec 2017, john doe wrote:


Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2017 14:29:42
From: john doe <johndoe65...@mail.com>
To: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: xclip problem
Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2017 19:30:01 + (UTC)
Resent-From: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org

On 12/22/2017 7:56 PM, Paul Gevers wrote:

 Hi Jude,

 On 22-12-17 19:26, Jude DaShiell wrote:

 as near as I can tell, echo does not work when used after alt-f2 in a
 text command.


 Just tried, for me it works (in KDE).



I don't use mate but if it is like gnome:

From:

https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/GnomeShell/CheatSheet

"Alt+F2 allows entering a command to launch an application."


So from now on could you enter the commands in a terminal?

There is no need to redirect the output of 'echo $DISPLAY' to a file.


 I also found out it's
 necessary to use touch to create a file first before anything can be
 sent to that file.


 That is absolutely not normal.



As Paul said, something is very rong here.










--
John Doe



Re: xclip problem

2017-12-22 Thread john doe

On 12/22/2017 9:38 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
I tried all of this in a terminal and got :0.0 for the DISPLAY value. So 
I exported DISPLAY=:0.0 then ran xclip and xclip errored out because it 
couldn't find DISPLAY :0.0.




From:

https://github.com/astrand/xclip

"* Connects to the X display in $DISPLAY, or specified with -display host:0"

What happened if you don't set the DISPLAY variable (post the error if 
any along with the command and where are you executing/entering it)?


Are you on Debian 9 (Stretch)?

Why do you need 'xclip' and what are you trying  to accomplish?


On Fri, 22 Dec 2017, john doe wrote:


Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2017 14:29:42
From: john doe <johndoe65...@mail.com>
To: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: xclip problem
Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2017 19:30:01 + (UTC)
Resent-From: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org

On 12/22/2017 7:56 PM, Paul Gevers wrote:

 Hi Jude,

 On 22-12-17 19:26, Jude DaShiell wrote:

 as near as I can tell, echo does not work when used after alt-f2 in a
 text command.


 Just tried, for me it works (in KDE).



I don't use mate but if it is like gnome:

From:

https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/GnomeShell/CheatSheet

"Alt+F2 allows entering a command to launch an application."


So from now on could you enter the commands in a terminal?

There is no need to redirect the output of 'echo $DISPLAY' to a file.


 I also found out it's
 necessary to use touch to create a file first before anything can be
 sent to that file.


 That is absolutely not normal.



As Paul said, something is very rong here.







--
John Doe



Re: xclip problem

2017-12-22 Thread Jude DaShiell
Interesting quotes around the whole echo command, I'll try that and see 
what happens.


On Fri, 22 Dec 2017, Paul Gevers wrote:


Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2017 14:07:51
From: Paul Gevers <elb...@debian.org>
To: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: xclip problem

Hi Jude,

On 22-12-17 20:04, Jude DaShiell wrote:

I haven't got kde accessible over here yet.


Just to avoid confusion, I don't need accessibility support, so I have
no clue how much of it doesn't work in KDE. I meant to say, alt-f2 "echo
xx > /tmp/yy" produced me a new file called /tmp/yy with the content xx.

Paul




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Re: xclip problem

2017-12-22 Thread Jude DaShiell
I tried all of this in a terminal and got :0.0 for the DISPLAY value. 
So I exported DISPLAY=:0.0 then ran xclip and xclip errored out because 
it couldn't find DISPLAY :0.0.


On Fri, 22 Dec 2017, john doe wrote:


Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2017 14:29:42
From: john doe <johndoe65...@mail.com>
To: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: xclip problem
Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2017 19:30:01 + (UTC)
Resent-From: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org

On 12/22/2017 7:56 PM, Paul Gevers wrote:

 Hi Jude,

 On 22-12-17 19:26, Jude DaShiell wrote:

 as near as I can tell, echo does not work when used after alt-f2 in a
 text command.


 Just tried, for me it works (in KDE).



I don't use mate but if it is like gnome:

From:

https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/GnomeShell/CheatSheet

"Alt+F2 allows entering a command to launch an application."


So from now on could you enter the commands in a terminal?

There is no need to redirect the output of 'echo $DISPLAY' to a file.


 I also found out it's
 necessary to use touch to create a file first before anything can be
 sent to that file.


 That is absolutely not normal.



As Paul said, something is very rong here.




--



Re: xclip problem

2017-12-22 Thread john doe

On 12/22/2017 7:56 PM, Paul Gevers wrote:

Hi Jude,

On 22-12-17 19:26, Jude DaShiell wrote:

as near as I can tell, echo does not work when used after alt-f2 in a
text command.


Just tried, for me it works (in KDE).



I don't use mate but if it is like gnome:

From:

https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/GnomeShell/CheatSheet

"Alt+F2 allows entering a command to launch an application."


So from now on could you enter the commands in a terminal?

There is no need to redirect the output of 'echo $DISPLAY' to a file.


I also found out it's
necessary to use touch to create a file first before anything can be
sent to that file.


That is absolutely not normal.



As Paul said, something is very rong here.

--
John Doe



Re: xclip problem

2017-12-22 Thread Paul Gevers
Hi Jude,

On 22-12-17 20:04, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> I haven't got kde accessible over here yet.

Just to avoid confusion, I don't need accessibility support, so I have
no clue how much of it doesn't work in KDE. I meant to say, alt-f2 "echo
xx > /tmp/yy" produced me a new file called /tmp/yy with the content xx.

Paul



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Re: xclip problem

2017-12-22 Thread Jude DaShiell
I haven't got kde accessible over here yet.  No application I've tried 
to run with it was accessible but that doesn't necessarily mean that 
will always be the case.  I've been doing all of this with mate.


On Fri, 22 Dec 2017, Paul Gevers wrote:


Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2017 13:56:59
From: Paul Gevers <elb...@debian.org>
To: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: xclip problem

Hi Jude,

On 22-12-17 19:26, Jude DaShiell wrote:

as near as I can tell, echo does not work when used after alt-f2 in a
text command.


Just tried, for me it works (in KDE).


I also found out it's
necessary to use touch to create a file first before anything can be
sent to that file.


That is absolutely not normal.

Paul




--



Re: xclip problem

2017-12-22 Thread Paul Gevers
Hi Jude,

On 22-12-17 19:26, Jude DaShiell wrote:
> as near as I can tell, echo does not work when used after alt-f2 in a
> text command.

Just tried, for me it works (in KDE).

> I also found out it's
> necessary to use touch to create a file first before anything can be
> sent to that file.

That is absolutely not normal.

Paul



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re: xclip problem

2017-12-22 Thread Jude DaShiell
as near as I can tell, echo does not work when used after alt-f2 in a text 
command.  I'll run set and see if I can direct output to a file in 
graphical user environment maybe I get lucky.  I also found out it's 
necessary to use touch to create a file first before anything can be sent 
to that file.




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Re: xclip problem

2017-12-22 Thread Jude DaShiell

I partly know what's going on over here with when files I try to create.
 It's possible the monitor is off though it's attached.  I'll try 
cycling the monitor and repeating this file creation and see if I get a 
DISPLAY value saved.  Not having vision I don't always have a good idea 
whether the monitor is turned on or not.


On Fri, 22 Dec 2017, john doe wrote:


Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2017 11:46:12
From: john doe <johndoe65...@mail.com>
To: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: xclip problem
Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2017 16:46:29 + (UTC)
Resent-From: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org

On 12/22/2017 5:24 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:

 No, I used the ">" operator when I ran the command.



If you do '> dn.txt' in the current directory, 'dn.txt' is created in the 
current directory.


$ > dn.txt
$ ls
dn.txt


$ jkjsiuu > dn.txt
-bash: jkjsiuu: command not found
$ ls
dn.txt

The file 'dn.txt' is created regardless of the command before it.

You could try:

 2>&1 > /fully/qualified/path/dn.txt

'echo $DISPLAY > dn.txt' -- The file dn.txt is created in the current 
directory.



 On Fri, 22 Dec 2017, john doe wrote:


 Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2017 11:14:47
 From: john doe <johndoe65...@mail.com>
 To: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org
 Subject: Re: xclip problem
 Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2017 16:15:05 + (UTC)
 Resent-From: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org

 On 12/22/2017 2:44 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:

 ?I just checked for dn.txt after running updatedb as root using locate
 and
 ?no results got returned.? The file was not produced.



 The redirection operator '>' creates the file 'dn.txt'.
 It looks like that command was never executed.?

 With out having the all conversation, the fact that DISPLAY is not
 populated might be the real issue here.










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Re: xclip problem

2017-12-22 Thread john doe

On 12/22/2017 5:24 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:

No, I used the ">" operator when I ran the command.



If you do '> dn.txt' in the current directory, 'dn.txt' is created in 
the current directory.


$ > dn.txt
$ ls
dn.txt


$ jkjsiuu > dn.txt
-bash: jkjsiuu: command not found
$ ls
dn.txt

The file 'dn.txt' is created regardless of the command before it.

You could try:

 2>&1 > /fully/qualified/path/dn.txt

'echo $DISPLAY > dn.txt' -- The file dn.txt is created in the current 
directory.



On Fri, 22 Dec 2017, john doe wrote:


Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2017 11:14:47
From: john doe <johndoe65...@mail.com>
To: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: xclip problem
Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2017 16:15:05 + (UTC)
Resent-From: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org

On 12/22/2017 2:44 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
 I just checked for dn.txt after running updatedb as root using 
locate and

 no results got returned.? The file was not produced.



The redirection operator '>' creates the file 'dn.txt'.
It looks like that command was never executed.?

With out having the all conversation, the fact that DISPLAY is not 
populated might be the real issue here.








--
John Doe



Re: xclip problem

2017-12-22 Thread Jude DaShiell

No, I used the ">" operator when I ran the command.

On Fri, 22 Dec 2017, john doe wrote:


Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2017 11:14:47
From: john doe <johndoe65...@mail.com>
To: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: xclip problem
Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2017 16:15:05 + (UTC)
Resent-From: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org

On 12/22/2017 2:44 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:

 I just checked for dn.txt after running updatedb as root using locate and
 no results got returned.? The file was not produced.



The redirection operator '>' creates the file 'dn.txt'.
It looks like that command was never executed.?

With out having the all conversation, the fact that DISPLAY is not populated 
might be the real issue here.





--



Re: xclip problem

2017-12-22 Thread john doe

On 12/22/2017 2:44 PM, Jude DaShiell wrote:
I just checked for dn.txt after running updatedb as root using locate 
and no results got returned.  The file was not produced.




The redirection operator '>' creates the file 'dn.txt'.
It looks like that command was never executed.?

With out having the all conversation, the fact that DISPLAY is not 
populated might be the real issue here.


--
John Doe



re: xclip problem

2017-12-22 Thread Jude DaShiell
I just checked for dn.txt after running updatedb as root using locate and 
no results got returned.  The file was not produced.



--



re: xclip problem

2017-12-22 Thread Jude DaShiell
echo $DISPLAY in graphical user environment provides no output.  If I do 
echo $DISPLAY >dn.txt then check for dn.txt in my $HOME directory later, 
no such file exists after this operation.  I'll check and see if dn.txt is 
in $HOME/Desktop in fact, I'll check system-wide for it using locate.




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Re: xclip problem

2017-12-22 Thread Samuel Thibault
Jude DaShiell, on jeu. 21 déc. 2017 21:12:45 -0500, wrote:
> echo $DISPLAY in speakup returns nothing yet when mate runs, it gets
> something for a DISPLAY otherwise I doubt any graphical user environment
> could run.

You can run echo $DISPLAY in your X environment, and then use e.g.

export DISPLAY=:0

in your console to set the same value there.

Samuel



Re: xclip problem

2017-12-21 Thread Jude DaShiell
echo $DISPLAY in speakup returns nothing yet when mate runs, it gets 
something for a DISPLAY otherwise I doubt any graphical user environment 
could run.


On Fri, 22 Dec 2017, chrys wrote:


Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2017 19:45:48
From: chrys <ch...@linux-a11y.org>
To: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: xclip problem
Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2017 01:24:53 + (UTC)
Resent-From: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org

Howdy,

sorry maybe its not that helpful that it should but:
fenrir (sadly i canot say anything about speakup :/) solves the issue by 
providing an:
export clipboard to file -> does not need and display but creats an special 
file in /tmp for sharing

command. no X is needed for this.
it also have an command (using xclip) to place throw the current fenrir 
clipboard in X (display is here needed as well)


cheers chrys


Am 20.12.2017 um 18:04 schrieb Jude DaShiell:

 When I use xclip it's with speakup running not orca so no display exists.
 Unfortunately xclip cannot handle a run without a display being set.? I
 tried copying a link in speakup with xclip so I could run it in firefox
 with orca and link my computer to my dropbox account but that's not
 possible.? Any other approaches to this where I could get a display set or
 find a better utility than xclip to get this done?



 -- 






--



Re: xclip problem

2017-12-21 Thread Jude DaShiell
It would help if I could get fenrir fully operational.  By default and I 
may be wrong on this one, fenrir appears to have lots of verbosity 
turned off.  I like to hear characters as I type them since that way I 
can correct mistakes.


On Fri, 22 Dec 2017, chrys wrote:


Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2017 19:48:17
From: chrys <ch...@linux-a11y.org>
To: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: xclip problem
Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2017 01:15:35 + (UTC)
Resent-From: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org

howdy,
ah sorry maybe i misunderstand you.
fenrir solfes the "search display" problem by bruteforcing displays from 0 to 
10

for sure this does not help you but just to complete my last message.

cheers chrys
Am 21.12.2017 um 01:50 schrieb Jude DaShiell:

 I've given up on xclip.? I tried exporting that DISPLAY value and others
 and each time that crashed dropboxd when I tried running it in
 /home/jude/.dropbox-dist/ as a test to be sure the display was found.
 The closest I ever got to a dropbox login without copying that url and
 running it from a javascript-enabled browser was after I installed dropbox
 and ran itfrom applications internet dropbox and that login didn't work
 either.? Apparently that crashes orca sometimes but one time I did a run I
 found circles in the email and password fields for logging onto the site.?
 Lots of ajax on that page too.? I'm going to start trying things with the
 dropbox clones since this is going nowhere and with one of those clones I
 may be able to link my google drive account and if that happens I can do
 without dropbox it is too much trouble just doing the basic things!

 On Wed, 20 Dec 2017, Jude DaShiell wrote:


 Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2017 17:57:40
 From: Jude DaShiell <jdash...@panix.com>
 To: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org
 Subject: re: xclip problem
 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2017 22:57:58 + (UTC)
 Resent-From: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org

 In order to find my DISPLAY I started up x, then ran mate-terminal and
 typed echo $DISPLAY >dn.txt.? Then I powered down and started up in
 console mode and found :0.0 in dn.txt.? If I didn't do this right, I'll
 know shortly.



 -- 










--



Re: xclip problem

2017-12-21 Thread Jude DaShiell
What would really be helpful beyond getting xclip rewritten so all xclip 
checks for is some form of graphical user environment on a machine would 
be a way to correctly locate the real DISPLAY value used when the 
graphical user environment is run.


On Fri, 22 Dec 2017, chrys wrote:


Date: Thu, 21 Dec 2017 19:48:17
From: chrys <ch...@linux-a11y.org>
To: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: xclip problem
Resent-Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2017 01:15:35 + (UTC)
Resent-From: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org

howdy,
ah sorry maybe i misunderstand you.
fenrir solfes the "search display" problem by bruteforcing displays from 0 to 
10

for sure this does not help you but just to complete my last message.

cheers chrys
Am 21.12.2017 um 01:50 schrieb Jude DaShiell:

 I've given up on xclip.? I tried exporting that DISPLAY value and others
 and each time that crashed dropboxd when I tried running it in
 /home/jude/.dropbox-dist/ as a test to be sure the display was found.
 The closest I ever got to a dropbox login without copying that url and
 running it from a javascript-enabled browser was after I installed dropbox
 and ran itfrom applications internet dropbox and that login didn't work
 either.? Apparently that crashes orca sometimes but one time I did a run I
 found circles in the email and password fields for logging onto the site.?
 Lots of ajax on that page too.? I'm going to start trying things with the
 dropbox clones since this is going nowhere and with one of those clones I
 may be able to link my google drive account and if that happens I can do
 without dropbox it is too much trouble just doing the basic things!

 On Wed, 20 Dec 2017, Jude DaShiell wrote:


 Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2017 17:57:40
 From: Jude DaShiell <jdash...@panix.com>
 To: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org
 Subject: re: xclip problem
 Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2017 22:57:58 + (UTC)
 Resent-From: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org

 In order to find my DISPLAY I started up x, then ran mate-terminal and
 typed echo $DISPLAY >dn.txt.? Then I powered down and started up in
 console mode and found :0.0 in dn.txt.? If I didn't do this right, I'll
 know shortly.



 -- 










--



Re: xclip problem

2017-12-21 Thread chrys

Howdy,

sorry maybe its not that helpful that it should but:
fenrir (sadly i canot say anything about speakup :/) solves the issue by 
providing an:
export clipboard to file -> does not need and display but creats an 
special file in /tmp for sharing

command. no X is needed for this.
it also have an command (using xclip) to place throw the current fenrir 
clipboard in X (display is here needed as well)


cheers chrys


Am 20.12.2017 um 18:04 schrieb Jude DaShiell:
When I use xclip it's with speakup running not orca so no display 
exists. Unfortunately xclip cannot handle a run without a display 
being set.  I tried copying a link in speakup with xclip so I could 
run it in firefox with orca and link my computer to my dropbox account 
but that's not possible.  Any other approaches to this where I could 
get a display set or find a better utility than xclip to get this done?




--





Re: xclip problem

2017-12-21 Thread chrys

howdy,
ah sorry maybe i misunderstand you.
fenrir solfes the "search display" problem by bruteforcing displays from 
0 to 10

for sure this does not help you but just to complete my last message.

cheers chrys
Am 21.12.2017 um 01:50 schrieb Jude DaShiell:
I've given up on xclip.  I tried exporting that DISPLAY value and 
others and each time that crashed dropboxd when I tried running it in 
/home/jude/.dropbox-dist/ as a test to be sure the display was found.
The closest I ever got to a dropbox login without copying that url and 
running it from a javascript-enabled browser was after I installed 
dropbox and ran itfrom applications internet dropbox and that login 
didn't work either.  Apparently that crashes orca sometimes but one 
time I did a run I found circles in the email and password fields for 
logging onto the site.  Lots of ajax on that page too.  I'm going to 
start trying things with the dropbox clones since this is going 
nowhere and with one of those clones I may be able to link my google 
drive account and if that happens I can do without dropbox it is too 
much trouble just doing the basic things!


On Wed, 20 Dec 2017, Jude DaShiell wrote:


Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2017 17:57:40
From: Jude DaShiell <jdash...@panix.com>
To: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org
Subject: re: xclip problem
Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2017 22:57:58 + (UTC)
Resent-From: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org

In order to find my DISPLAY I started up x, then ran mate-terminal 
and typed echo $DISPLAY >dn.txt.  Then I powered down and started up 
in console mode and found :0.0 in dn.txt.  If I didn't do this right, 
I'll know shortly.




--








re: xclip problem

2017-12-20 Thread Jude DaShiell
I've given up on xclip.  I tried exporting that DISPLAY value and others 
and each time that crashed dropboxd when I tried running it in 
/home/jude/.dropbox-dist/ as a test to be sure the display was found.
The closest I ever got to a dropbox login without copying that url and 
running it from a javascript-enabled browser was after I installed 
dropbox and ran itfrom applications internet dropbox and that login 
didn't work either.  Apparently that crashes orca sometimes but one time 
I did a run I found circles in the email and password fields for logging 
onto the site.  Lots of ajax on that page too.  I'm going to start 
trying things with the dropbox clones since this is going nowhere and 
with one of those clones I may be able to link my google drive account 
and if that happens I can do without dropbox it is too much trouble just 
doing the basic things!


On Wed, 20 Dec 2017, Jude DaShiell wrote:


Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2017 17:57:40
From: Jude DaShiell <jdash...@panix.com>
To: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org
Subject: re: xclip problem
Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2017 22:57:58 + (UTC)
Resent-From: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org

In order to find my DISPLAY I started up x, then ran mate-terminal and typed 
echo $DISPLAY >dn.txt.  Then I powered down and started up in console mode 
and found :0.0 in dn.txt.  If I didn't do this right, I'll know shortly.




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re: xclip problem

2017-12-20 Thread Jude DaShiell
In order to find my DISPLAY I started up x, then ran mate-terminal and 
typed echo $DISPLAY >dn.txt.  Then I powered down and started up in 
console mode and found :0.0 in dn.txt.  If I didn't do this right, I'll 
know shortly.




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Re: xclip problem

2017-12-20 Thread Jude DaShiell
I don't yet know if the force worked or not.  With both commands an 
error message to the effect cannot open DISPLAY :0 was returned.  I have 
mate running on this system if it helps too.


On Wed, 20 Dec 2017, Samuel Thibault wrote:


Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2017 12:10:34
From: Samuel Thibault <sthiba...@debian.org>
To: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: xclip problem
Resent-Date: Wed, 20 Dec 2017 17:10:53 + (UTC)
Resent-From: debian-accessibility@lists.debian.org

Hello,

Jude DaShiell, on mer. 20 d?c. 2017 12:04:32 -0500, wrote:

When I use xclip it's with speakup running not orca so no display exists.
Unfortunately xclip cannot handle a run without a display being set.  I
tried copying a link in speakup with xclip so I could run it in firefox with
orca and link my computer to my dropbox account but that's not possible.


You can force display:

DISPLAY=:0 xclip -o
echo foo | DISPLAY=:0 xclip -i

Samuel




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Re: xclip problem

2017-12-20 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hello,

Jude DaShiell, on mer. 20 déc. 2017 12:04:32 -0500, wrote:
> When I use xclip it's with speakup running not orca so no display exists.
> Unfortunately xclip cannot handle a run without a display being set.  I
> tried copying a link in speakup with xclip so I could run it in firefox with
> orca and link my computer to my dropbox account but that's not possible.

You can force display:

DISPLAY=:0 xclip -o
echo foo | DISPLAY=:0 xclip -i

Samuel



xclip problem

2017-12-20 Thread Jude DaShiell
When I use xclip it's with speakup running not orca so no display exists. 
Unfortunately xclip cannot handle a run without a display being set.  I 
tried copying a link in speakup with xclip so I could run it in firefox 
with orca and link my computer to my dropbox account but that's not 
possible.  Any other approaches to this where I could get a display set or 
find a better utility than xclip to get this done?




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