install debian remotely

2006-12-21 Thread antonio giulio

Hi,

I must install debian on remote server. Actually it's present an old
red-hat 9. Can you suggest me guide/how-to/etc to start installing or
an easy way to do it?

This is a guide that I know:

http://www.underhanded.org/papers/debian-conversion/remotedeb.html

Thanks,
Giulio


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Re: install debian remotely

2006-12-21 Thread Dmitrii Varvashenia

2006/12/21, antonio giulio [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

I must install debian on remote server. Actually it's present an old
red-hat 9. Can you suggest me guide/how-to/etc to start installing or
an easy way to do it?

Debian-way: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apcs04.html.en

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Re: chroot: firefox browser plugins

2006-12-21 Thread Les Gray

Jaime Ochoa Malagón schrieb
I had have a similar problem with directories in rbind inside a chroot

al the files are in the same partition?
when firefox is installed to /usr/local in chroot, yes. when it's 
installed in /home/user, no. But I have no problem linking to other 
files in the chroot from this home directory, even though it's on 
another partition...


do your use the tab key to make de link?
no, just the terminal and eg. /usr/local/firefox/plugins# ln -s 
path_to_javaplugin .


Doesn't the tab key achieve the same result?


as a las resource why do you not copy the files of the plugins to your
directory?
I tried that. The files copy OK but the getfirefox.com Firefox says it 
can't find them. It's strange, the Debian firefox obviously makes the 
necessary plugin links during the install process, but I can't do so 
manually...



Best whishes

and to you! :)


On 12/21/06, Les Gray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hi,

I just built myself a 64-bit AMD X2 desktop system and decided I'd give
a 64-bit distro a shot. On my recently ebayed last system I was using
32-bit Sarge for just over a year and loved it. I am now happily running
Etch RC1 64-bit.

Happily? Well, almost

For the relatively few 32-bit programs I need/want to run, I opted for
the chroot method (as described in the Debian AMD64 HOWTO). I installed
Firefox 2.0.0.1 by unpacking the archive from getfirefox.com into
/usr/local in my chroot (I prefer not to use Debian-packaged firefox
because I've found it to be more crash prone). The browser starts up
without a hitch.

But, for the life of me, I am unable to create any symlinks in
/usr/local/firefox/plugins to the currently installed plugins in the
chroot (acrobat and java, atm). Each time I try, it results in a
dangling symlink (and, yes, I am issuing each command from within the
chroot).

I thought it might be a permissions issue (even though I didn't change
any), so I tried unpacking firefox in bind-mounted /home/user. No 
change.


I also tried 3 methods of installing Sun Java - from the Debian repo,
from sun.com, and building locally using java-package. Again, no ability
to symlink to the java plugin.

I don't get it. I can create symlinks to any other files/dirs in the
chroot, just not browser plugins?? I have read permissions on all
elements of the plugin path, and write permissions to where I want to
create the symlink. I've also tried copying the plugins to the firefox
plugins directory, but firefox still doesn't register them.

Curiously (or not?), I don't have this problem if I use the firefox
version from Debian. It's just 'getfirefox'. I don't want to use the
Debian version, though, or another browser. I may use Iceweasel from
unstable as a last resort, but I really shouldn't be having this problem
in the first place.

Any clues? It's the first time I've used chroot, so if I am overlooking
something simple, my apologies :)

Thanks,
Les


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Re: Broadcom/Serverworks chipsets (was Re: a few simple questions about AMD64 version of Debian)

2006-12-21 Thread Steffen Grunewald
On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 01:47:51PM -0800, Freddie Cash wrote:
 On Wednesday 20 December 2006 12:44 pm, Marco Maske wrote:
  Has someone experience with k8 Broadcom/Serverworks chips?
 
 Excellent question.  I'd be interested in hearing from people that have 
 used/tried motherboards using this chipset.  It appears to be the only 
 other choice in server boards if once avoids nForce boards.

You're supposedly talking about HT1000 and the like? SuperMicro's H8SSL
motherboard series is based on this chipset, and there's a 640+ node cluster
based on this board at U Wisconsin Milwaukee (and soon here too). 
What do you want to know?

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Re: Broadcom/Serverworks chipsets (was Re: a few simple questions about AMD64 version of Debian)

2006-12-21 Thread Daniel Tryba
On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 01:47:51PM -0800, Freddie Cash wrote:
  Has someone experience with k8 Broadcom/Serverworks chips?
 
 Excellent question.  I'd be interested in hearing from people that have 
 used/tried motherboards using this chipset.  It appears to be the only 
 other choice in server boards if once avoids nForce boards.

I'm running a K8SSA (S3870), it is completely supported by the kernel
but it is not as stable as I hoped. 

There are occasional lockups that appear to be related to the (s)ata
controller (still running 2.6.16.x)

I specifically got this board for it's legacy PCI slots, but not all PCI
cards will work (can't get firewire or cardbus to work). I have no idea
if that is a kernel problem (most likely for the cardbus controller) or
with the systemboard (IOMMU related I guess).

The TARO/SAS expansion is kind of supported since 2.6.19, but the rc
releases didn't have support for SATA on the SAS controller (AIC9140). I
hoped to use this relatively cheap controller to drive lots of disks.

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Re: Broadcom/Serverworks chipsets (was Re: a few simple questions about AMD64 version of Debian)

2006-12-21 Thread Freddie Cash
On Thursday 21 December 2006 03:37 am, Steffen Grunewald wrote:
 On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 01:47:51PM -0800, Freddie Cash wrote:
  On Wednesday 20 December 2006 12:44 pm, Marco Maske wrote:
   Has someone experience with k8 Broadcom/Serverworks chips?
 
  Excellent question.  I'd be interested in hearing from people that
  have used/tried motherboards using this chipset.  It appears to be
  the only other choice in server boards if once avoids nForce boards.

 You're supposedly talking about HT1000 and the like? SuperMicro's H8SSL
 motherboard series is based on this chipset, and there's a 640+ node
 cluster based on this board at U Wisconsin Milwaukee (and soon here
 too). What do you want to know?

Yes, the HT1000 and similar ServerWords chipsets.  These are the only 
other non-nForce server chipsets out there (other than Intel, but we 
prefer Opterons to Xeons).

How's the Linux support, Debian specifically?  We're using Tyan boards for 
all our servers, but have been notified that the S2882 boards we love may 
be phased out in 2007, so we're looking for possible replacements.  Are 
all the onboard devices detected and usable?  Starting with which version 
of the kernel?  Specifically, the NICs.  Also, how is the hardware 
management (SMBus, I2C, temperature monitoring, etc)?  Is there remote 
management (inband or out-of-band) available for the motherboard?

And, finally, does all of the above work with the 64-bit version of 
Debian?

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Re: chroot: firefox browser plugins

2006-12-21 Thread Les Gray

Jaime Ochoa Malagón schrieb:

On 12/21/06, Les Gray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Jaime Ochoa Malagón schrieb
I had have a similar problem with directories in rbind inside a chroot
 al the files are in the same partition?
when firefox is installed to /usr/local in chroot, yes. when it's
installed in /home/user, no. But I have no problem linking to other
files in the chroot from this home directory, even though it's on
another partition...

 do your use the tab key to make de link?
no, just the terminal and eg. /usr/local/firefox/plugins# ln -s
path_to_javaplugin .


if you want to check the path you could use the tab key while you
are typing to complete the text...

are you using the absolute path?
Oh, I forgot about the tab key for this :) But I have all the plugin 
paths updated and saved in my 'setup notes', and I just use the X 
keyboard to (carefully) paste them into the terminal. and, yes, they are 
the absolute paths.





Doesn't the tab key achieve the same result?

 as a las resource why do you not copy the files of the plugins to your
 directory?
I tried that. The files copy OK but the getfirefox.com Firefox says it
can't find them. It's strange, the Debian firefox obviously makes the
necessary plugin links during the install process, but I can't do so
manually...


thats really weird or the plugins are of another arch... 32/64?
I checked that. They are all from things either installed via apt-get in 
my etch-ia32 chroot, or that I made sure were 32-bit versions when I 
downloaded them. I also made sure that my copy of Firefox was 32-bit by 
checking the browser header (I don't think you can download a 
specifically 64-bit version of Firefox from getfirefox.com, anyway).


Any other ideas? It's certainly got me stumped...

thanks





 Best whishes
and to you! :)

 On 12/21/06, Les Gray [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi,

 I just built myself a 64-bit AMD X2 desktop system and decided I'd 
give

 a 64-bit distro a shot. On my recently ebayed last system I was using
 32-bit Sarge for just over a year and loved it. I am now happily 
running

 Etch RC1 64-bit.

 Happily? Well, almost

 For the relatively few 32-bit programs I need/want to run, I opted 
for
 the chroot method (as described in the Debian AMD64 HOWTO). I 
installed

 Firefox 2.0.0.1 by unpacking the archive from getfirefox.com into
 /usr/local in my chroot (I prefer not to use Debian-packaged firefox
 because I've found it to be more crash prone). The browser starts up
 without a hitch.

 But, for the life of me, I am unable to create any symlinks in
 /usr/local/firefox/plugins to the currently installed plugins in the
 chroot (acrobat and java, atm). Each time I try, it results in a
 dangling symlink (and, yes, I am issuing each command from within the
 chroot).

 I thought it might be a permissions issue (even though I didn't 
change

 any), so I tried unpacking firefox in bind-mounted /home/user. No
 change.

 I also tried 3 methods of installing Sun Java - from the Debian repo,
 from sun.com, and building locally using java-package. Again, no 
ability

 to symlink to the java plugin.

 I don't get it. I can create symlinks to any other files/dirs in the
 chroot, just not browser plugins?? I have read permissions on all
 elements of the plugin path, and write permissions to where I want to
 create the symlink. I've also tried copying the plugins to the 
firefox

 plugins directory, but firefox still doesn't register them.

 Curiously (or not?), I don't have this problem if I use the firefox
 version from Debian. It's just 'getfirefox'. I don't want to use the
 Debian version, though, or another browser. I may use Iceweasel from
 unstable as a last resort, but I really shouldn't be having this 
problem

 in the first place.

 Any clues? It's the first time I've used chroot, so if I am 
overlooking

 something simple, my apologies :)

 Thanks,
 Les


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Re: chroot: firefox browser plugins

2006-12-21 Thread Matthias Julius
Les Gray [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 But, for the life of me, I am unable to create any symlinks in
 /usr/local/firefox/plugins to the currently installed plugins in the
 chroot (acrobat and java, atm). Each time I try, it results in a
 dangling symlink (and, yes, I am issuing each command from within the
 chroot).

Maybe you should explain in more detail what you are doing.

Did you install Firefox in the chroot?  If yes, do you run it from
within the chroot?  If you don't you should not create the symlinks
from within.

Matthias


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Re: chroot: firefox browser plugins

2006-12-21 Thread Les Gray

Matthias Julius schrieb:

Les Gray [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  

But, for the life of me, I am unable to create any symlinks in
/usr/local/firefox/plugins to the currently installed plugins in the
chroot (acrobat and java, atm). Each time I try, it results in a
dangling symlink (and, yes, I am issuing each command from within the
chroot).



Maybe you should explain in more detail what you are doing.

Did you install Firefox in the chroot?  If yes, do you run it from
within the chroot?  If you don't you should not create the symlinks
from within.

Matthias
  
Yes, it's all from within the chroot. You don't /install/ this 
particular Firefox /per se/, you just unpack the archive to wherever you 
want, and run it from there.


FYI I am using schroot to start Firefox from within the 64-bit 
environment, via a shell script dropped into /usr/local/bin. The browser 
starts up OK, but the problem with the symlinks exists before I get to 
that point.


I'm just not being allowed to create symlinks to browser plugins or, for 
that matter, any other file or directory within /usr/lib/Adobe or 
/usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun . But I can link to any other file or folder within 
the chroot. And, yes, I'm trying all this from within the chroot, and as 
user root...


Les


  


Re: chroot: firefox browser plugins

2006-12-21 Thread Matthias Julius
Les Gray [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I'm just not being allowed to create symlinks to browser plugins or,
 for that matter, any other file or directory within /usr/lib/Adobe or
 /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun . But I can link to any other file or folder
 within the chroot. And, yes, I'm trying all this from within the
 chroot, and as user root...

So when you do 'ls -l /usr/lib/Adobe' from wherever you want to make
the symlink you see the file and when you do
'ln -s /usr/lib/Adobe/filename .' you get a dangling symlink?  Are
you sure the path was right?

The TAB key was mentioned before.  What it does is to make sure the
path you enter exists.  If you type '/usr/lib/A TAB' and that 'A'
doesn't expand to 'Adobe' this is a good indication that this
directory isn't there where you think it is.

Matthias


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Re: chroot: firefox browser plugins

2006-12-21 Thread Les Gray

Matthias Julius schrieb:

So when you do 'ls -l /usr/lib/Adobe' from wherever you want to make
the symlink you see the file and when you do
'ln -s /usr/lib/Adobe/filename .' you get a dangling symlink?  Are
you sure the path was right?
  

Yes, all the paths are right. I'm careful to make sure of that.

The TAB key was mentioned before.  What it does is to make sure the
path you enter exists.  If you type '/usr/lib/A TAB' and that 'A'
doesn't expand to 'Adobe' this is a good indication that this
directory isn't there where you think it is.
  
Again, the paths aren't the problem. I'm pasting them in from a file 
browser.


Perhaps it's something in the schroot profiling? This is what I have in 
/etc/schroot/schroot.conf -


[etch32]
description=Debian Etch i386 (etch32)
location=/var/chroot/etch-ia32
priority=3
groups=my user,root
root-groups=root
aliases=default,testing,ia32
personality=linux32
type=plain
run-exec-scripts=true
run-setup-scripts=true

It's basically the example given in the AMD64 HOWTO. It looks like I'm 
able to do everything I need to, though


Les



  



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