Re: Need a html5 browser for squeeze
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 03:16:53AM +0100, Michael wrote:
Why not move to Debian testing ('wheezy') altogether.
Maybe for the stability of stable?
I use testing, but my wife refuses; she's on stable. Too much change
from day to day. And I can't say she's wrong.
I did a routine upgrade a few weeks ago, before havein friends over for
a write-in, only to discover that gnome had become unusable. I spent
the evening struggling with the computer, installing kde, instead of
getting useful work done.
A few days later I migrated to xfce.
My wife was happy staying with stable.
Mond you keeping up with mozilla might have some of the same problems
all by itself. But it'll be easy to uninstall the backport and go back
to the stable version if necessary.
-- hendrik
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Re: Need a html5 browser for squeeze
Hendrik, I did a routine upgrade a few weeks ago, before havein friends over for a write-in, only to discover that gnome had become unusable. Yes, i agree. When using testing, you have to learn a new discipline: Update only when you feel like it ;) And you can always cancel when package manager indicates problems. the evening struggling with the computer, installing kde, instead of getting useful work done. In the past, i had a lot of trouble like this. Then i realized i need only lots of full fledged applications anyway, no desktop notifiers and whatever, and a plain Windowmaker is totally perfect for me. It allows me application launchers on as much workspaces i want. What else should i ever need ? And i went away from the full desktop environments and am happy now since many years. But i agree, if you're still on Gnome or KDE you need to be very careful. A few days later I migrated to xfce. Another good choice. My wife was happy staying with stable. And i am happy with the latest video codecs ;) - and firefox 8. keeping up with mozilla might have some of the same problems all by itself. I can not remember there was any such problem with Mozilla, in many years. And i'm running unstable on several machines. I think it's only the desktop environments complexity which seem to reach the limit for the Free Software developing process, especially stability maintenance. They want so much more features all the time. But production users want stability, real apps, and maybe only 10% of the available DE features in total. But YMMV. ps. And here is the amd64 list quota content: You get enhanced 64bit support and newer kernel drivers too, of course. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20111213173752.70aff...@mirrors.kernel.org
Re: Need a html5 browser for squeeze
On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 05:37:52PM +0100, Michael wrote: Hendrik, Yes, i agree. When using testing, you have to learn a new discipline: Update only when you feel like it ;) And you can always cancel when package manager indicates problems. Package manager did not indicate problems. the evening struggling with the computer, installing kde, instead of getting useful work done. In the past, i had a lot of trouble like this. Then i realized i need only lots of full fledged applications anyway, no desktop notifiers and whatever, and a plain Windowmaker is totally perfect for me. It allows me application launchers on as much workspaces i want. What else should i ever need ? I should try Windowmaker. But i agree, if you're still on Gnome or KDE you need to be very careful. At the moment xdm doesn't seem to work with the corrent kernel, nothing to do with Gnome of KDE. So I pick an old kernel every time I boot. My wife was happy staying with stable. And i am happy with the latest video codecs ;) Video codecs would be nice. But my laptop doesn't seem to have the hardware needed to keep up with them. I've pretty much gven up on video. But I'm happy with libreoffice. Too bad is wasn't out in time for stable. Openoffice had dropped support for .fodt files, which are essential to my production chain. Well, I suppose I could have rewritten a lot of coode instead. - and firefox 8. keeping up with mozilla might have some of the same problems all by itself. I can not remember there was any such problem with Mozilla, in many years. And i'm running unstable on several machines. I think it's only the desktop environments complexity which seem to reach the limit for the Free Software developing process, especially stability maintenance. It's the plugins that don't keep up. -- hendrik -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-amd64-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20111213174435.gb3...@topoi.pooq.com
