Re: Broadcom/Serverworks chipsets (was Re: a few simple questions about AMD64 version of Debian)

2006-12-22 Thread Steffen Grunewald
On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 09:14:07AM -0800, Freddie Cash wrote:
Has someone experience with k8 Broadcom/Serverworks chips?
  
   Excellent question.  I'd be interested in hearing from people that
   have used/tried motherboards using this chipset.  It appears to be
   the only other choice in server boards if once avoids nForce boards.
 
  You're supposedly talking about HT1000 and the like? SuperMicro's H8SSL
  motherboard series is based on this chipset, and there's a 640+ node
  cluster based on this board at U Wisconsin Milwaukee (and soon here
  too). What do you want to know?
 
 Yes, the HT1000 and similar ServerWords chipsets.  These are the only 
 other non-nForce server chipsets out there (other than Intel, but we 
 prefer Opterons to Xeons).
 
 How's the Linux support, Debian specifically?  We're using Tyan boards for 

For Linux support, look at http://lsc-group.phys.uwm.edu and proceed to
the Nemo cluster. They have set up quite a lot of documentation.
While Nemo is running FC4, we @AEI decided to install Debian (Etch) onto
our cluster which is still in an early test phase (only about 1/8 of the
hardware being delivered). Basically, if you build your own kernels (we had
to to have support for Areca RAID controllers, and the Gilgal eth chip on
one of the headnodes [purchased separately]) you're fine. We've been using 
FAI to diagnose and install three different types of hardware, and it went
smoothly (OK, three years of FAI experience before...)

 all our servers, but have been notified that the S2882 boards we love may 
 be phased out in 2007, so we're looking for possible replacements.  Are 

Everything that works will soon be end-of-life.

 all the onboard devices detected and usable?  Starting with which version 
 of the kernel?  Specifically, the NICs.  Also, how is the hardware 
 management (SMBus, I2C, temperature monitoring, etc)?  Is there remote 
 management (inband or out-of-band) available for the motherboard?

NICs are tg3, kernel 2.6.17 has recent drivers.
For health monitoring, we use IPMI (which conflicts with lm_sensors).
Also IPMI can do remote power on/off/whatever, serial-over-LAN etc.

 And, finally, does all of the above work with the 64-bit version of 
 Debian?

We never tried i386 :-)

S

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Re: Broadcom/Serverworks chipsets (was Re: a few simple questions about AMD64 version of Debian)

2006-12-21 Thread Steffen Grunewald
On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 01:47:51PM -0800, Freddie Cash wrote:
 On Wednesday 20 December 2006 12:44 pm, Marco Maske wrote:
  Has someone experience with k8 Broadcom/Serverworks chips?
 
 Excellent question.  I'd be interested in hearing from people that have 
 used/tried motherboards using this chipset.  It appears to be the only 
 other choice in server boards if once avoids nForce boards.

You're supposedly talking about HT1000 and the like? SuperMicro's H8SSL
motherboard series is based on this chipset, and there's a 640+ node cluster
based on this board at U Wisconsin Milwaukee (and soon here too). 
What do you want to know?

S

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Re: Broadcom/Serverworks chipsets (was Re: a few simple questions about AMD64 version of Debian)

2006-12-21 Thread Daniel Tryba
On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 01:47:51PM -0800, Freddie Cash wrote:
  Has someone experience with k8 Broadcom/Serverworks chips?
 
 Excellent question.  I'd be interested in hearing from people that have 
 used/tried motherboards using this chipset.  It appears to be the only 
 other choice in server boards if once avoids nForce boards.

I'm running a K8SSA (S3870), it is completely supported by the kernel
but it is not as stable as I hoped. 

There are occasional lockups that appear to be related to the (s)ata
controller (still running 2.6.16.x)

I specifically got this board for it's legacy PCI slots, but not all PCI
cards will work (can't get firewire or cardbus to work). I have no idea
if that is a kernel problem (most likely for the cardbus controller) or
with the systemboard (IOMMU related I guess).

The TARO/SAS expansion is kind of supported since 2.6.19, but the rc
releases didn't have support for SATA on the SAS controller (AIC9140). I
hoped to use this relatively cheap controller to drive lots of disks.

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Re: Broadcom/Serverworks chipsets (was Re: a few simple questions about AMD64 version of Debian)

2006-12-21 Thread Freddie Cash
On Thursday 21 December 2006 03:37 am, Steffen Grunewald wrote:
 On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 01:47:51PM -0800, Freddie Cash wrote:
  On Wednesday 20 December 2006 12:44 pm, Marco Maske wrote:
   Has someone experience with k8 Broadcom/Serverworks chips?
 
  Excellent question.  I'd be interested in hearing from people that
  have used/tried motherboards using this chipset.  It appears to be
  the only other choice in server boards if once avoids nForce boards.

 You're supposedly talking about HT1000 and the like? SuperMicro's H8SSL
 motherboard series is based on this chipset, and there's a 640+ node
 cluster based on this board at U Wisconsin Milwaukee (and soon here
 too). What do you want to know?

Yes, the HT1000 and similar ServerWords chipsets.  These are the only 
other non-nForce server chipsets out there (other than Intel, but we 
prefer Opterons to Xeons).

How's the Linux support, Debian specifically?  We're using Tyan boards for 
all our servers, but have been notified that the S2882 boards we love may 
be phased out in 2007, so we're looking for possible replacements.  Are 
all the onboard devices detected and usable?  Starting with which version 
of the kernel?  Specifically, the NICs.  Also, how is the hardware 
management (SMBus, I2C, temperature monitoring, etc)?  Is there remote 
management (inband or out-of-band) available for the motherboard?

And, finally, does all of the above work with the 64-bit version of 
Debian?

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Broadcom/Serverworks chipsets (was Re: a few simple questions about AMD64 version of Debian)

2006-12-20 Thread Freddie Cash
On Wednesday 20 December 2006 12:44 pm, Marco Maske wrote:
 Has someone experience with k8 Broadcom/Serverworks chips?

Excellent question.  I'd be interested in hearing from people that have 
used/tried motherboards using this chipset.  It appears to be the only 
other choice in server boards if once avoids nForce boards.

-- 
Freddie Cash, LPIC-2 CCNT CCLP  Network Support Technician
School District 73  (250) 377-HELP [377-4357]
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