Re: kernel module eeprom causing system freeze

2008-01-15 Thread Dean Hamstead

regardless, when i got home from work it booted properly.
with no changes or updates.

seems strange. but oh well, back to normal computing...

Dean

Gabor Gombas wrote:

On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 09:26:29AM +, Koen Tavernier wrote:

The package lm-sensors uses the eeprom module to get temperature  
readings from motherboard sensors.


No, the eeprom module is not involved in temperature monitoring. You
need the eeprom module when e.g. you want to know the parameters of the
memory modules you have installed.

Gabor




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Re: kernel module eeprom causing system freeze

2008-01-14 Thread Koen Tavernier

Hi Dean,

Dean Hamstead wrote:

after a circuit breaker caused a power outage, which reset the
bios. debian is now freezing (solid) at 'Loading kernel module eeprom'.

The package lm-sensors uses the eeprom module to get temperature 
readings from motherboard sensors. I have seen Dell servers freeze when 
this module is being loaded. Maybe  the module got updated but was never 
reloaded until the power outage now? Boot from a live CD and comment out 
eeprom from /etc/modules and then boot again. As far as I know, this 
module isn't used for anything else.


Koen.



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Re: kernel module eeprom causing system freeze

2008-01-14 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 08:58:25AM +1100, Dean Hamstead wrote:
 after a circuit breaker caused a power outage, which reset the
 bios. debian is now freezing (solid) at 'Loading kernel module eeprom'.

Power loss should never reset the BIOS.  A power surge perhaps, or a
defective motherboard could.

 I have tended to the bios and reset to optimized, fail safe etc.
 Prior to the power outage there wasnt anything fancy in the bios
 settings regardless.
 
 I have tried booting the current and the two prior kernels with
 the same results.
 
 Any thoughts?

Well eeprom is the I2C eeprom driver, so I would guess one of your I2C
controllers is broken.  Often found on the motherboard and the video
card among others.

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Re: kernel module eeprom causing system freeze

2008-01-14 Thread A J Stiles
On Monday 14 Jan 2008, Lennart Sorensen wrote:
 On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 08:58:25AM +1100, Dean Hamstead wrote:
  after a circuit breaker caused a power outage, which reset the
  bios. debian is now freezing (solid) at 'Loading kernel module eeprom'.

 Power loss should never reset the BIOS.  A power surge perhaps, or a
 defective motherboard could.

If the lithium battery on the motherboard is defective, then CMOS settings can 
be lost with a power failure.  However, modern motherboards will be able to 
determine that the CMOS memory has become corrupt and will automatically 
adopt working  (though probably sub-optimal)  settings if this happens.

Note that a duff motherboard battery sometimes fails to manifests itself, 
because most people leave their PC plugged into the wall all the time.  As 
long as the PC is plugged into the mains, the switch on the wall socket is on 
and the electricity meter is in credit, the PSU will supply standby power to 
the motherboard and the lithium battery will not be used.  Most PCs are 
plugged into extension leads which do not have separate switches for each 
socket; which are then plugged into inconveniently-located wall sockets whose 
switches stay ON all the time. 

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Re: kernel module eeprom causing system freeze

2008-01-13 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 08:58:25AM +1100, Dean Hamstead wrote:
 
 after a circuit breaker caused a power outage, which reset the
 bios. debian is now freezing (solid) at 'Loading kernel module eeprom'.
 
 I have tended to the bios and reset to optimized, fail safe etc.
 Prior to the power outage there wasnt anything fancy in the bios
 settings regardless.
 
 I have tried booting the current and the two prior kernels with
 the same results.
 
 Any thoughts?
 
How did a power failure reset the BIOS unless the BIOS battery is dead.
IIRC, operations of a computer with a battery are indeterminate if the
battery is dead.  Change the battery.

Doug.


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Re: kernel module eeprom causing system freeze

2008-01-13 Thread Dean Hamstead

good question, however in my experience power failures
(especially breakers going) seem to reset bios's from time
to time.

i will take a look at the bios battery, however there
doesnt seem to be any problems with the bios retaining
its settings.

Dean

Douglas A. Tutty wrote:

On Mon, Jan 14, 2008 at 08:58:25AM +1100, Dean Hamstead wrote:

after a circuit breaker caused a power outage, which reset the
bios. debian is now freezing (solid) at 'Loading kernel module eeprom'.

I have tended to the bios and reset to optimized, fail safe etc.
Prior to the power outage there wasnt anything fancy in the bios
settings regardless.

I have tried booting the current and the two prior kernels with
the same results.

Any thoughts?
 
How did a power failure reset the BIOS unless the BIOS battery is dead.

IIRC, operations of a computer with a battery are indeterminate if the
battery is dead.  Change the battery.

Doug.





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