Re: system_crash.

2007-01-23 Thread Karl Schmidt

CHRIS WAKEFIELD wrote:

Greetings all.

Had my machine (amdx2) up and running for about 70 days (2.6.16-16), came home 
today to a
frozen kde.  Rebooted and grub would _NO_ partitions! ...15 or twenty different 
kernels
between 2 drives. Checked, and they're all there just fine, so I'm 
reinstalling

I rememeber a few months ago trying to boot with a freshly compiled kernel and 
having the
boot freeze umptine times at the scheduler initialization (?)  tried many 
different
kernel configs, gave up and stuck with the only kernel that'll boot my new 
machine -
2.6.16-16.

Seems the latest 'debian-testing-amd64-netinst' doesn't use this kernel. My 
original
image from an install of a year ago stops installing at 'tzdata' (tried 6 times 
now).

So I'm stuck between a rock and windows here.

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Chris W.


What file system were you using? ext3?








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Re: system_crash.

2007-01-23 Thread c wakefield
I was using reiserfs (from about ver.3.5 - 4 years or so), but I've switched 
to ext3 until reiser4 is mature.

On Tuesday 23 January 2007 17:01, Karl Schmidt wrote:
 CHRIS WAKEFIELD wrote:
  Greetings all.
 
  Had my machine (amdx2) up and running for about 70 days (2.6.16-16), came
  home today to a frozen kde.  Rebooted and grub would _NO_ partitions!
  ...15 or twenty different kernels between 2 drives. Checked, and they're
  all there just fine, so I'm reinstalling
 
  I rememeber a few months ago trying to boot with a freshly compiled
  kernel and having the boot freeze umptine times at the scheduler
  initialization (?)  tried many different kernel configs, gave up and
  stuck with the only kernel that'll boot my new machine - 2.6.16-16.
 
  Seems the latest 'debian-testing-amd64-netinst' doesn't use this kernel.
  My original image from an install of a year ago stops installing at
  'tzdata' (tried 6 times now).
 
  So I'm stuck between a rock and windows here.
 
  Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Chris W.

 What file system were you using? ext3?






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Re: system_crash.

2007-01-22 Thread Daniel Tryba
On Thu, Jan 18, 2007 at 11:56:23PM -0800, CHRIS WAKEFIELD wrote:
 I rememeber a few months ago trying to boot with a freshly compiled
 kernel and having the boot freeze umptine times at the scheduler
 initialization (?)  tried many different kernel configs, gave up and
 stuck with the only kernel that'll boot my new machine - 2.6.16-16.

I had the same problems, it was only till the 2.6.19.x versions that
kernels started booting again.

 Seems the latest 'debian-testing-amd64-netinst' doesn't use this
 kernel.  My original image from an install of a year ago stops
 installing at 'tzdata' (tried 6 times now).

A little newer: 
http://tmp.tryba.nl/debian-testing-amd64-netinst.iso

Dates in the iso are Aug. 10 2006. I guess this is the image I used to
install my machine. Maybe it works for you.

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Re: system_crash.

2007-01-19 Thread Douglas Allan Tutty
On Thu, Jan 18, 2007 at 11:56:23PM -0800, CHRIS WAKEFIELD wrote:
 Greetings all.
 
 Had my machine (amdx2) up and running for about 70 days (2.6.16-16),
 came home today to a frozen kde.  Rebooted and grub would _NO_
 partitions! ...15 or twenty different kernels between 2 drives.
 Checked, and they're all there just fine, so I'm reinstalling
 
 I rememeber a few months ago trying to boot with a freshly compiled
 kernel and having the boot freeze umptine times at the scheduler
 initialization (?)  tried many different kernel configs, gave up and
 stuck with the only kernel that'll boot my new machine - 2.6.16-16.
 
 Seems the latest 'debian-testing-amd64-netinst' doesn't use this
 kernel.  My original image from an install of a year ago stops
 installing at 'tzdata' (tried 6 times now).
 
 So I'm stuck between a rock and windows here.
 
 Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.  Chris W.
 

Hello Chris,

I'm sorry to hear of your crash.

I don't do kde so I can't help diagnose that.

Summary: need more info.

Checked, and they're all there just fine

Can you access /var and look at syslog to see what
happened?

To confirm: you say that the current standard kernel (as on my
Etch amd64) 2.6.18-3 doesn't boot you machine so you had to
compile 2.6.16-16 (or is that an older standard debian kernel).

If you compiled it, hopefully you have a backup and can
make custom install media per the manual.

If standard debian, you can download it and make custom
install media per the manual.

Either way, first try a daily-image Etch amd64.

I wonder if the problem is with grub itself.  I guess you first
need something that boots, e.g. an install CD or USB-stick
(hd-media) in rescue mode.

It seems to me that if grub can't find the partition
then the problem at this point isn't the kernel.

What happens from the grub command line (as opposed to,
or from editing, the pre-defined grub menu choices)?

The only time I've had hard freezes is when hardware dies.  Do
you have some dead hardware, say a drive, soundcard, video?

What is your drive setup, e.g. raid1, LVM, separate /boot, what
is your normal kernel command-line.

As always, I hope you have backups and I hope this isn't putting you out
of busness while you fix it.

Good luck,

Doug.


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