sources.list

2009-07-16 Thread Jenei Gábor
Could someone send me a grat sources.list for Debian Lenny(5.0.2)?it's
also good if you just send me a webpage where I can find the text.Is it
better if I use hungarian servers(my computer is in Hungary)?What are
the best servers to download?


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Re: sources.list

2009-07-16 Thread Jochen Schulz
Jenei Gábor:

 Could someone send me a grat sources.list for Debian Lenny(5.0.2)?

What's wrong with yours? Are you missing specific packages? Is your
mirror not able to saturate your internet connection?

 it's
 also good if you just send me a webpage where I can find the text.Is it
 better if I use hungarian servers(my computer is in Hungary)?What are
 the best servers to download?

Generally it is best to use a nearby mirror. But you may find that the
big ones are faster for you.

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Re: sources.list

2009-07-16 Thread Jerome BENOIT

Hello Jenei,

you must already have one in /etc/apt .

Otherwise, the question is: how have you installed Debian on your box ?

Jerome

Jenei Gábor wrote:

Could someone send me a grat sources.list for Debian Lenny(5.0.2)?it's
also good if you just send me a webpage where I can find the text.Is it
better if I use hungarian servers(my computer is in Hungary)?What are
the best servers to download?


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Re: sources.list

2009-07-16 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 10:36:09AM +0200, Jenei Gábor wrote:
 Thanks,I wrote down the hungarian servers to my sources list.The sources
 list was already created of course,but it contained the datas of the
 Debian DVD,as I installed the Debian without network,and just configured
 the network after.Is there any way otherwise to install debian in
 netinstall with Atheros AR5211 chip?The exacvct network Card is a
 TP-Link TL-WN350GD card,but as I saw it contains an AR5211
 chipset.Unfortunatelly the kernel integrated Ath5k driver didn't
 function, our network is 802.11G,and as I read this driver doesn't
 suppert the G network for AR5211.Is this right?With madwifi it works
 fine also with WPA.thanks for the hungarianserver adresses,they're quick
 yet:)

You could use apt-setup (just like the installer probably does) to add
things to your sources.list, or maybe read the man page for sources.list
(man 5 sources.list).

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Re: sources.list

2009-07-16 Thread hendrik
On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 09:24:32AM +0200, Jenei Gábor wrote:
 Could someone send me a grat sources.list for Debian Lenny(5.0.2)?it's
 also good if you just send me a webpage where I can find the text.Is it
 better if I use hungarian servers(my computer is in Hungary)?What are
 the best servers to download?

Here's mine.  I'm in Canada; I use a local Canadian site.  I also 
ibclude a site that contains altered kernels that are needed for my 
eeepc, and a site that may or may not contain a Modula 3 distribution 
(The modula 3 people are putting together a new distro of their system 
at the moment.).  You probably won't want to copy it, but it'll  give 
you some idea how these things are organised.

There's also one lines commented out.  You probably don't want to 
use those at all.  When I modify my sources.list I usually comment out 
old lines instead of deleting or replacing them -- that way it's easier 
to back out if my  modifications don't work.

-- hendrik

# deb http://debian.yorku.ca/debian/ squeeze main

deb http://debian.yorku.ca/debian/ squeeze main non-free contrib
deb-src http://debian.yorku.ca/debian/ squeeze main non-free contrib

deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib non-free
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib non-free

#for backported 2.6.29 kernel for wifi
deb http://backports.undebian.org/repositories/backports-kernel/ ./

#for trial Modula 3 debs.

deb http://www.eiserloh.org/mirrors/modula3/debian lenny main
deb-src http://www.eiserloh.org/mirrors/modula3/debian lenny main


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Re: sources.list

2009-07-16 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Mon, Jan 03, 2000 at 07:14:51AM -0500, hend...@topoi.pooq.com wrote:
 Here's mine.  I'm in Canada; I use a local Canadian site.  I also 
 ibclude a site that contains altered kernels that are needed for my 
 eeepc, and a site that may or may not contain a Modula 3 distribution 
 (The modula 3 people are putting together a new distro of their system 
 at the moment.).  You probably won't want to copy it, but it'll  give 
 you some idea how these things are organised.

Wow your clock is broken.  I just found this way back near the start of
my email claiming to be from january 3rd 2000. :)

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Re: sources.list

2009-07-16 Thread Jeff D
On Thu, 16 Jul 2009, Jenei Gábor wrote:

 Could someone send me a grat sources.list for Debian Lenny(5.0.2)?it's
 also good if you just send me a webpage where I can find the text.Is it
 better if I use hungarian servers(my computer is in Hungary)?What are
 the best servers to download?


you might want to install the netselect-apt app and run that, it will test
out a bunch of mirrors and find the fastest one for you, something like
this should work well:
netselect-apt -a amd64 lenny

it will write out a sources list to the current dir.

You can also find a list of mirrors here:
http://www.debian.org/mirrors/official#list

hth,
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Re: sources.list: experimental

2008-12-03 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Am Dienstag, 2. Dezember 2008 schrieb Jochen Schulz:
 Lennart Sorensen:
  On Tue, Dec 02, 2008 at 06:35:59PM +0100, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:
  just a question:
 
  adding an experimental source to the sources list (just to install a
  special application from this), will an aptitude upgrade or apt-get
  upgrade overwrite ALL installed packages ?
 
  upgrade doesn't do anything involving adding or removing packages.

 Well, but it upgrades packages. In other words: it overwrites existing
 packages. That's what Hans asked.


Yes, that is exactly, what I wanted to know: does it overwrite all installed 
packages with packages with higher version numbers ? ( = versions from 
experimental).   

  dist-upgrade does, so really using anything other than dist-upgrade ever
  is just a mistake.

 No, it is not. Using 'upgrade' (or 'safe-upgrade' when using aptitude)
 is the safe way to update your system without changing the set of
 installed packages.

 In the past, this list received many mails from people asking for help
 after apt(itude) removed some important package from their system. If
 all these people had made a habit of using dist-upgrade only when they
 know they really need it, they would have saved themselves a lot
 trouble.

 Of course, if you always check apt(itude)'s output before confirming its
 actions, you don't break your system either. But it is never a mistake
 to try the safe alternative first.

 J.


I think my original question was wrong told: It is not a matter of the 
difference between upgrade and dist-upgrade (this difference i well known by 
me), my question aimed more to like Hey, if there are higher versions in 
experimental, are they automatically installed, when doing apt-get 
dist-upgrade (like it behave, if I am running testing and add the repository 
of sid in sources.list) ? Or are all versions in experimental ignored, as 
experimental is handled in a special way ? 

...similar to that, you know what I mean. 

And yes, Jochen, I know the matter of dist-upgrade, and I always say:

upgrade is normal, but dist-upgrade is the intelligent upgrade (as you heve 
to think, before confirming)!

Best regards

Hans


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Re: sources.list: experimental

2008-12-03 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 12:40:56AM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
 Actualy you are verry wrong there. Not in what it is supposed to do
 but in what actually happens and why update is a good idea.
 
 As you say will do things involving adding or removing packages.
 Unfortunately it is not always too smart about that and result depend
 on the order of updates. For example:
 
 Package: foo
 Version: 1.2-3
 Depends: foo-simple (= 1.2-3) | foo-heavy (= 1.2-3)
 
 Now imagine you have foo 1.2-1 and foo-heavy 1.2-1 installed then
 dist-upgrade will want to update foo 1.2-3. That will have broken
 dependencies (foo-heavy 1.2-3 is not installed yet) so to fullfill
 them it will add foo-simple 1.2-3. Only later it hits foo-heavy 1.2-1
 and will also update that to 1.2-3.

I have never seen dist-upgrade do something that stupid.  I have used
dist-upgrade exclusively for almost 10 years now without seeing anything
like that.

 By first doing an upgrade you have 2 effects:
 
 1) many examples like above do get solved by upgrade
 2) the number of packages for dist-upgrade is greatly reduced
often resulting in a better solution, at least from my experience

Doing upgrade first just makes you have to do things in two steps, where
dist-upgrade alone in the first place would have done the job.

 PS: aptitude can be even more spectacular wrong if the dependencies
 are currently broken like often in sid. The non-GUI mode I find mostly
 unbearable.

Aptitide tries, but sometimes gets a bit carried away.

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Re: sources.list: experimental

2008-12-03 Thread C M Reinehr
Hans,

On Wed 03 December 2008 05:37, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:
 Am Dienstag, 2. Dezember 2008 schrieb Jochen Schulz:
  Lennart Sorensen:
   On Tue, Dec 02, 2008 at 06:35:59PM +0100, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:
   just a question:
  
   adding an experimental source to the sources list (just to install a
   special application from this), will an aptitude upgrade or apt-get
   upgrade overwrite ALL installed packages ?
  
   upgrade doesn't do anything involving adding or removing packages.
 
  Well, but it upgrades packages. In other words: it overwrites existing
  packages. That's what Hans asked.

 Yes, that is exactly, what I wanted to know: does it overwrite all
 installed packages with packages with higher version numbers ? ( = versions
 from experimental).

   dist-upgrade does, so really using anything other than dist-upgrade
   ever is just a mistake.
 
  No, it is not. Using 'upgrade' (or 'safe-upgrade' when using aptitude)
  is the safe way to update your system without changing the set of
  installed packages.
 
  In the past, this list received many mails from people asking for help
  after apt(itude) removed some important package from their system. If
  all these people had made a habit of using dist-upgrade only when they
  know they really need it, they would have saved themselves a lot
  trouble.
 
  Of course, if you always check apt(itude)'s output before confirming its
  actions, you don't break your system either. But it is never a mistake
  to try the safe alternative first.
 
  J.

 I think my original question was wrong told: It is not a matter of the
 difference between upgrade and dist-upgrade (this difference i well known
 by me), my question aimed more to like Hey, if there are higher versions
 in experimental, are they automatically installed, when doing apt-get
 dist-upgrade (like it behave, if I am running testing and add the
 repository of sid in sources.list) ? Or are all versions in experimental
 ignored, as experimental is handled in a special way ?

I certainly am not an expert at package management. In fact, I think 
maintaining a mixed system probably is one of the least understood areas of 
Debian policy, but some time ago, I came across this recommendation. I tend 
to run Stable, with a few packages from Testing, and keep this line in 
my /etc/apt/apt.conf file:

APT::Default-Release stable;

IIANM this ensures that my majority, stable packages will not be upgraded to 
testing packages, even though I have the testing repository in my 
sources.list file. Pinning is another option, but I understand it even less.

HTH

Cheers!

cmr

 ...similar to that, you know what I mean.

 And yes, Jochen, I know the matter of dist-upgrade, and I always say:

 upgrade is normal, but dist-upgrade is the intelligent upgrade (as you
 heve to think, before confirming)!

 Best regards

 Hans

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Re: sources.list: experimental

2008-12-03 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lennart Sorensen) writes:

 On Wed, Dec 03, 2008 at 12:40:56AM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
 Actualy you are verry wrong there. Not in what it is supposed to do
 but in what actually happens and why update is a good idea.
 
 As you say will do things involving adding or removing packages.
 Unfortunately it is not always too smart about that and result depend
 on the order of updates. For example:
 
 Package: foo
 Version: 1.2-3
 Depends: foo-simple (= 1.2-3) | foo-heavy (= 1.2-3)
 
 Now imagine you have foo 1.2-1 and foo-heavy 1.2-1 installed then
 dist-upgrade will want to update foo 1.2-3. That will have broken
 dependencies (foo-heavy 1.2-3 is not installed yet) so to fullfill
 them it will add foo-simple 1.2-3. Only later it hits foo-heavy 1.2-1
 and will also update that to 1.2-3.

 I have never seen dist-upgrade do something that stupid.  I have used
 dist-upgrade exclusively for almost 10 years now without seeing anything
 like that.

Did it on nearly every xemacs update for me.

MfG
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Re: sources.list: experimental

2008-12-03 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Jochen Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hans-J. Ullrich:
 
 I think my original question was wrong told: It is not a matter of the 
 difference between upgrade and dist-upgrade (this difference i well known by 
 me), my question aimed more to like Hey, if there are higher versions in 
 experimental, are they automatically installed, when doing apt-get 
 dist-upgrade (like it behave, if I am running testing and add the repository 
 of sid in sources.list) ? Or are all versions in experimental ignored, as 
 experimental is handled in a special way ? 

 The correct answer has already been given, but just to make sure: yes,
 experimental is handled differently. Apt will never automatically
 upgrade a package on your system to the version in experimental (unless
 you use pinning for that).

 J.

Too add some details:

The Release file for experimental contains:
NotAutomatic: yes

This causes apt/aptitude to automatically pin experimental to 1 (I
think).

Then, when installing/updating apt will look at all sources of a
package, take those with the highest pin and of those the one with the
highest version.

For more RTFM.

MfG
Goswin

PS: If unsure run apt-cache policy [package] to see what apt things.


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sources.list: experimental

2008-12-02 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Hi all,

just a question:

adding an experimental source to the sources list (just to install a special 
application from this), will an aptitude upgrade or apt-get upgrade 
overwrite ALL installed packages ?


Thanks for your help.


Cheers 

Hans


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Re: sources.list: experimental

2008-12-02 Thread Sandro Tosi
On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 18:35, Hans-J. Ullrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 adding an experimental source to the sources list (just to install a special
 application from this), will an aptitude upgrade or apt-get upgrade
 overwrite ALL installed packages ?

No, you need to explicitly request to install packages from
experimental using -t experimental option.

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Re: sources.list: experimental

2008-12-02 Thread Ron Johnson

On 12/02/08 11:39, Sandro Tosi wrote:

On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 18:35, Hans-J. Ullrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

adding an experimental source to the sources list (just to install a special
application from this), will an aptitude upgrade or apt-get upgrade
overwrite ALL installed packages ?


No, you need to explicitly request to install packages from
experimental using -t experimental option.


To follow up on that, note how experimental is down at priority 1:

$ apt-cache policy
Package files:
 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
 release a=now
 500 http://tovid.sourceforge.net unstable/contrib Packages
 origin tovid.sourceforge.net
   1 http://ftp.debian.org ../project/experimental/non-free Packages
 release o=Debian,a=experimental,l=Debian,c=non-free
 origin ftp.debian.org
   1 http://ftp.debian.org ../project/experimental/contrib Packages
 release o=Debian,a=experimental,l=Debian,c=contrib
 origin ftp.debian.org
   1 http://ftp.debian.org ../project/experimental/main Packages
 release o=Debian,a=experimental,l=Debian,c=main
 origin ftp.debian.org
 500 http://www.debian-multimedia.org unstable/main Packages
 release v=None,o=Unofficial Multimedia 
Packages,a=unstable,l=Unofficial Multimedia Packages,c=main

 origin www.debian-multimedia.org
 500 ftp://mirrors.kernel.org unstable/non-free Packages
 release o=Debian,a=unstable,l=Debian,c=non-free
 origin mirrors.kernel.org
 500 ftp://mirrors.kernel.org unstable/contrib Packages
 release o=Debian,a=unstable,l=Debian,c=contrib
 origin mirrors.kernel.org
 500 ftp://mirrors.kernel.org unstable/main Packages
 release o=Debian,a=unstable,l=Debian,c=main
 origin mirrors.kernel.org
Pinned packages:

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Re: sources.list: experimental

2008-12-02 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, Dec 02, 2008 at 06:35:59PM +0100, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:
 just a question:
 
 adding an experimental source to the sources list (just to install a special 
 application from this), will an aptitude upgrade or apt-get upgrade 
 overwrite ALL installed packages ?

upgrade doesn't do anything involving adding or removing packages.
dist-upgrade does, so really using anything other than dist-upgrade ever
is just a mistake.  upgrade really shouldn't even be an option.  At
least for apt-get.  Perhaps aptitude behaves differently.

Other than that, as already mentioned you would have to specifically
specify experimental for a package to install that.

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Re: sources.list: experimental

2008-12-02 Thread Jochen Schulz
Lennart Sorensen:
 On Tue, Dec 02, 2008 at 06:35:59PM +0100, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:
 just a question:
 
 adding an experimental source to the sources list (just to install a special 
 application from this), will an aptitude upgrade or apt-get upgrade 
 overwrite ALL installed packages ?
 
 upgrade doesn't do anything involving adding or removing packages.

Well, but it upgrades packages. In other words: it overwrites existing
packages. That's what Hans asked.

 dist-upgrade does, so really using anything other than dist-upgrade ever
 is just a mistake.

No, it is not. Using 'upgrade' (or 'safe-upgrade' when using aptitude)
is the safe way to update your system without changing the set of
installed packages.

In the past, this list received many mails from people asking for help
after apt(itude) removed some important package from their system. If
all these people had made a habit of using dist-upgrade only when they
know they really need it, they would have saved themselves a lot
trouble.

Of course, if you always check apt(itude)'s output before confirming its
actions, you don't break your system either. But it is never a mistake
to try the safe alternative first.

J.
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Re: sources.list: experimental

2008-12-02 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Lennart Sorensen) writes:

 On Tue, Dec 02, 2008 at 06:35:59PM +0100, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:
 just a question:
 
 adding an experimental source to the sources list (just to install a special 
 application from this), will an aptitude upgrade or apt-get upgrade 
 overwrite ALL installed packages ?

 upgrade doesn't do anything involving adding or removing packages.
 dist-upgrade does, so really using anything other than dist-upgrade ever
 is just a mistake.  upgrade really shouldn't even be an option.  At
 least for apt-get.  Perhaps aptitude behaves differently.

Actualy you are verry wrong there. Not in what it is supposed to do
but in what actually happens and why update is a good idea.

As you say will do things involving adding or removing packages.
Unfortunately it is not always too smart about that and result depend
on the order of updates. For example:

Package: foo
Version: 1.2-3
Depends: foo-simple (= 1.2-3) | foo-heavy (= 1.2-3)

Now imagine you have foo 1.2-1 and foo-heavy 1.2-1 installed then
dist-upgrade will want to update foo 1.2-3. That will have broken
dependencies (foo-heavy 1.2-3 is not installed yet) so to fullfill
them it will add foo-simple 1.2-3. Only later it hits foo-heavy 1.2-1
and will also update that to 1.2-3.

By first doing an upgrade you have 2 effects:

1) many examples like above do get solved by upgrade
2) the number of packages for dist-upgrade is greatly reduced
   often resulting in a better solution, at least from my experience

MfG
Goswin

PS: aptitude can be even more spectacular wrong if the dependencies
are currently broken like often in sid. The non-GUI mode I find mostly
unbearable.



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Re: sources.list: experimental

2008-12-02 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Jochen Schulz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Of course, if you always check apt(itude)'s output before confirming its
 actions, you don't break your system either. But it is never a mistake
 to try the safe alternative first.

Which is a lot shorter and easier to read once the safe-upgrade
packages are out of the way. :)

MfG
Goswin


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Re: /etc/apt/sources.list

2008-09-18 Thread David Palmer
On Thu, 2008-09-18 at 15:26 +1000, Alex Samad wrote:
 On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 10:04:46AM +0800, David Palmer wrote:
  Having a problem - with two different releases, now, 4.0r3 and 4.0r4, on
  installation.
  
  For some reason the installer no longer includes John Hasler's pppconfig
  package (although plenty of attention is given to pppoe), setserial
  isn't included in the base config to assist with modem port detection,
  so consequently, there's no access to a mirror and the only thing that
  ends up in the sources.list file is the cdrom path.
  
  I could probably figure things out but I'm a bit doubtful on the syntax
  employed when specifying the paths in the /etc/apt/sources.list edit.
  
  I've searched everywhere fron Martin Kraft's book, to ' Linux Rute
  User's Tutorial and Exposition',  the Debian site - including the amd64
  installation manual, man pages and google.amongst others, but I can
  find no hard and fast specification as to whether the 'amd64' qualifier
  should be included in the path and if so, how it should be qualified,
  i.e. associated with forward slashes; underscores or hyphens.
  
  Could anybody point me to a reliable source, please?
 
 man sources.list
 
Some examples:
 
deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib
 non-free
deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian dists/stable-updates/

Right!
So there's no need to include an amd64 rider in there at all?
Apt picks it up automagically?

Thanks for your help.
Regards,

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Re: /etc/apt/sources.list

2008-09-18 Thread Alex Samad
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 02:01:37PM +0800, David Palmer wrote:
 On Thu, 2008-09-18 at 15:26 +1000, Alex Samad wrote:
  On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 10:04:46AM +0800, David Palmer wrote:

[snip]

 
 Right!
 So there's no need to include an amd64 rider in there at all?
 Apt picks it up automagically?

you can also look here for mirrors

http://www.debian.org/mirror/list

 
 Thanks for your help.
 Regards,
 
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/etc/apt/sources.list

2008-09-17 Thread David Palmer
Having a problem - with two different releases, now, 4.0r3 and 4.0r4, on
installation.

For some reason the installer no longer includes John Hasler's pppconfig
package (although plenty of attention is given to pppoe), setserial
isn't included in the base config to assist with modem port detection,
so consequently, there's no access to a mirror and the only thing that
ends up in the sources.list file is the cdrom path.

I could probably figure things out but I'm a bit doubtful on the syntax
employed when specifying the paths in the /etc/apt/sources.list edit.

I've searched everywhere fron Martin Kraft's book, to ' Linux Rute
User's Tutorial and Exposition',  the Debian site - including the amd64
installation manual, man pages and google.amongst others, but I can
find no hard and fast specification as to whether the 'amd64' qualifier
should be included in the path and if so, how it should be qualified,
i.e. associated with forward slashes; underscores or hyphens.

Could anybody point me to a reliable source, please?

I'll have to read the answer in the archives as I've been off-line for a
while and I've got about 10,000 emails backed up on me.
With spam training on a new mail client, that's a whole separate issue

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Re: /etc/apt/sources.list

2008-09-17 Thread Alex Samad
On Thu, Sep 18, 2008 at 10:04:46AM +0800, David Palmer wrote:
 Having a problem - with two different releases, now, 4.0r3 and 4.0r4, on
 installation.
 
 For some reason the installer no longer includes John Hasler's pppconfig
 package (although plenty of attention is given to pppoe), setserial
 isn't included in the base config to assist with modem port detection,
 so consequently, there's no access to a mirror and the only thing that
 ends up in the sources.list file is the cdrom path.
 
 I could probably figure things out but I'm a bit doubtful on the syntax
 employed when specifying the paths in the /etc/apt/sources.list edit.
 
 I've searched everywhere fron Martin Kraft's book, to ' Linux Rute
 User's Tutorial and Exposition',  the Debian site - including the amd64
 installation manual, man pages and google.amongst others, but I can
 find no hard and fast specification as to whether the 'amd64' qualifier
 should be included in the path and if so, how it should be qualified,
 i.e. associated with forward slashes; underscores or hyphens.
 
 Could anybody point me to a reliable source, please?

man sources.list

   Some examples:

   deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib
non-free
   deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian dists/stable-updates/


 
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 With spam training on a new mail client, that's a whole separate issue
 
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Re: sources.list help v.2

2007-11-18 Thread Jochen Schulz
Dave Stevens:
 
 W: Couldn't stat source package list http://debian.yorku.ca etch/non-free
 Packages
 (/var/lib/apt/lists/debian.yorku.ca_debian_dists_etch_non-free_binary-amd64_Packages)
 - stat (2 No such file or directory)

This probably means that you need to run 'aptitude update' (or apt-get
update, if you prefer that).

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Re: sources.list help v.2

2007-11-17 Thread Dave Stevens
On Wednesday 14 November 2007 01:33:34 pm Max Alekseyev wrote:
 Add non-free section to you sources.list, i.e. change

 deb http://debian.yorku.ca/debian/ etch main
 to
 deb http://debian.yorku.ca/debian/ etch main non-free

 and install package 'unrar' which is the latest (but non-free) version
 of unrar, supporting RAR archives ver 3.x

 Max

 On Nov 14, 2007 10:28 AM, Dave Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I have a friend with a new debian amd-64 install. He has unrar-free but

This:

# 
deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 r1 _Etch_ - Official amd64 DVD Binary-1
20070819-12:16]/ etch contrib main

deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 r1 _Etch_ - Official amd64 DVD Binary-1
20070819-12:16]/ etch contrib main

deb http://debian.yorku.ca/debian/ etch main non-free
deb-src http://debian.yorku.ca/debian/ etch main non-free

deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib non-free
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib non-free
deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ sarge main non-free contrib

gives this:


W: Couldn't stat source package list http://debian.yorku.ca etch/non-free
Packages
(/var/lib/apt/lists/debian.yorku.ca_debian_dists_etch_non-free_binary-amd64_Packages)
- stat (2 No such file or directory)
W: Couldn't stat source package list http://http.us.debian.org sarge/main
Packages
(/var/lib/apt/lists/http.us.debian.org_debian_dists_sarge_main_binary-amd64_Packages)
- stat (2 No such file or directory)
W: Couldn't stat source package list http://http.us.debian.org sarge/non-free
Packages
(/var/lib/apt/lists/http.us.debian.org_debian_dists_sarge_non-free_binary-amd64_Packages)
- stat (2 No such file or directory)
W: Couldn't stat source package list http://http.us.debian.org sarge/contrib
Packages
(/var/lib/apt/lists/http.us.debian.org_debian_dists_sarge_contrib_binary-amd64_Packages)
- stat (2 No such file or directory)

which leads to only unrar free showing up when searching synaptic.

Ideas? and what is stat in the warning message?

Dave


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Re: sources.list help v.2

2007-11-17 Thread Stephen Cormier
On November 17, 2007 04:33:12 pm Dave Stevens wrote:
 On Wednesday 14 November 2007 01:33:34 pm Max Alekseyev wrote:
  Add non-free section to you sources.list, i.e. change
 
  deb http://debian.yorku.ca/debian/ etch main
  to
  deb http://debian.yorku.ca/debian/ etch main non-free
 
  and install package 'unrar' which is the latest (but non-free) version
  of unrar, supporting RAR archives ver 3.x
 
  Max
 
  On Nov 14, 2007 10:28 AM, Dave Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I have a friend with a new debian amd-64 install. He has unrar-free but

 This:

 #
 deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 r1 _Etch_ - Official amd64 DVD Binary-1
 20070819-12:16]/ etch contrib main

 deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 r1 _Etch_ - Official amd64 DVD Binary-1
 20070819-12:16]/ etch contrib main

 deb http://debian.yorku.ca/debian/ etch main non-free
 deb-src http://debian.yorku.ca/debian/ etch main non-free

 deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib non-free
 deb-src http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main contrib non-free
 deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ sarge main non-free contrib

 gives this:


 W: Couldn't stat source package list http://debian.yorku.ca etch/non-free
 Packages
 (/var/lib/apt/lists/debian.yorku.ca_debian_dists_etch_non-free_binary-amd64
_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
 W: Couldn't stat source package list http://http.us.debian.org sarge/main
 Packages
 (/var/lib/apt/lists/http.us.debian.org_debian_dists_sarge_main_binary-amd64
_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
 W: Couldn't stat source package list http://http.us.debian.org
 sarge/non-free Packages
 (/var/lib/apt/lists/http.us.debian.org_debian_dists_sarge_non-free_binary-a
md64_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
 W: Couldn't stat source package list http://http.us.debian.org
 sarge/contrib Packages
 (/var/lib/apt/lists/http.us.debian.org_debian_dists_sarge_contrib_binary-am
d64_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)

 which leads to only unrar free showing up when searching synaptic.

 Ideas? and what is stat in the warning message?

 Dave

It means exactly what it tells you it cannot find the file. In the case of the 
sarge error the AMD64 arch was not included in the release so it will never 
find them you should comment out/remove those lines. For the etch it looks 
like they may not be mirroring the non-free section as it seems to find main 
without problems you may want to switch to a mirror that is complete 
personally I use the one below as the Canadian mirrors just plain sucked 
every time I have tried them.

## Etch sources
deb http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian/ etch main contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian/ etch main contrib non-free

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sources.list help v.2

2007-11-14 Thread Dave Stevens
I have a friend with a new debian amd-64 install. He has unrar-free but it 
won't open RAR 3.0 files. It looks like it would be worthwhile to try unrar 
but I am not able to get appropriate access for synaptic.

I went to:
http://packages.debian.org/sid/unrar/amd64/download

and tried adding a line to /etc/apt/sources.list as suggested at that page but 
get error warnings when starting synaptic. The error text is:

W: Couldn't stat source package list
http://http.us.debian.org sarge/main Packages
(/var/lib/apt/lists/http.us.debian.org_debian_dists_sarge_main_binary-amd64_Packages)
- stat (2 No such file or directory)
W: Couldn't stat source package list
http://http.us.debian.org sarge/non-free Packages
(/var/lib/apt/lists/http.us.debian.org_debian_dists_sarge_non-free_binary-amd64_Packages)
- stat (2 No such file or directory)
W: Couldn't stat source package list
http://http.us.debian.org sarge/contrib Packages
(/var/lib/apt/lists/http.us.debian.org_debian_dists_sarge_contrib_binary-amd64_Packages)
- stat (2 No such file or directory)

the current sources.list file is:

deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 r1 _Etch_ - Official
amd64 DVD Binary-1 20070819 -12:16]/ etch contrib main

deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 r1 _Etch_ - Official
amd64 DVD Binary-1 20070819 -12:16]/ etch contrib main

deb http://debian.yorku.ca/debian/ etch main
deb-src http://debian.yorku.ca/debian/ etch main

deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main
contrib
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main
contrib
deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ sarge main
non-free contrib

The net effect is that searching 
for unrar gives only the already installed unrar-free. I have the .deb 
package for unrar but installing it fails due to a dependency error.

Can someone point me to a tutorial or explain how to get better information 
about the problem? This is what I got from uname:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ uname -a
Linux debianroger 2.6.18-5-amd64 #1 SMP Tue Oct 2 20:37:02 UTC 2007 x86_64 
GNU/Linux

Thanks very much.

Dave

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Re: sources.list help v.2

2007-11-14 Thread Max Alekseyev
Add non-free section to you sources.list, i.e. change

deb http://debian.yorku.ca/debian/ etch main
to
deb http://debian.yorku.ca/debian/ etch main non-free

and install package 'unrar' which is the latest (but non-free) version
of unrar, supporting RAR archives ver 3.x

Max

On Nov 14, 2007 10:28 AM, Dave Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have a friend with a new debian amd-64 install. He has unrar-free but it
 won't open RAR 3.0 files. It looks like it would be worthwhile to try unrar
 but I am not able to get appropriate access for synaptic.

 I went to:
 http://packages.debian.org/sid/unrar/amd64/download

 and tried adding a line to /etc/apt/sources.list as suggested at that page but
 get error warnings when starting synaptic. The error text is:

 W: Couldn't stat source package list
 http://http.us.debian.org sarge/main Packages
 (/var/lib/apt/lists/http.us.debian.org_debian_dists_sarge_main_binary-amd64_Packages)
 - stat (2 No such file or directory)
 W: Couldn't stat source package list
 http://http.us.debian.org sarge/non-free Packages
 (/var/lib/apt/lists/http.us.debian.org_debian_dists_sarge_non-free_binary-amd64_Packages)
 - stat (2 No such file or directory)
 W: Couldn't stat source package list
 http://http.us.debian.org sarge/contrib Packages
 (/var/lib/apt/lists/http.us.debian.org_debian_dists_sarge_contrib_binary-amd64_Packages)
 - stat (2 No such file or directory)

 the current sources.list file is:

 deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 r1 _Etch_ - Official
 amd64 DVD Binary-1 20070819 -12:16]/ etch contrib main

 deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 r1 _Etch_ - Official
 amd64 DVD Binary-1 20070819 -12:16]/ etch contrib main

 deb http://debian.yorku.ca/debian/ etch main
 deb-src http://debian.yorku.ca/debian/ etch main

 deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main
 contrib
 deb-src http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main
 contrib
 deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ sarge main
 non-free contrib

 The net effect is that searching
 for unrar gives only the already installed unrar-free. I have the .deb
 package for unrar but installing it fails due to a dependency error.

 Can someone point me to a tutorial or explain how to get better information
 about the problem? This is what I got from uname:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ uname -a
 Linux debianroger 2.6.18-5-amd64 #1 SMP Tue Oct 2 20:37:02 UTC 2007 x86_64
 GNU/Linux

 Thanks very much.

 Dave

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2007-11-13 Thread Dave Stevens
I have a friend with a new debian amd-64 install. He has unrar-free but it 
won't open RAR 3.0 files. It looks like it would be worthwhile to try unrar 
but I am not able to get appropriate access for synaptic.

I went to:
http://packages.debian.org/sid/unrar/amd64/download

and tried adding a line to /etc/apt/sources.list as suggested at that page but 
get error warnings when starting synaptic. The net effect is that searching 
for unrar gives only the already installed unrar-free. I have the .deb 
package for unrar but installing it fails due to a dependency error.

Can someone point me to a tutorial or explain how to get better information 
about the problem? This is what I got from uname:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ uname -a
Linux debianroger 2.6.18-5-amd64 #1 SMP Tue Oct 2 20:37:02 UTC 2007 x86_64 
GNU/Linux

Thanks very much.

Dave


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Re: sources.list help

2007-11-13 Thread Robert Isaac
Demand a better archive format, tar.bz2 has much better compression.  Otherwise:

apt-cache search unrar
unrar-free - Unarchiver for .rar files
unrar - Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)

Just add contrib non-free to the end of your mirror if you must use
the non-free version of unrar it should look something like this:

deb ftp://ftp.xx.debian.org/debian/ etch main contrib non-free

replace xx with a mirror near you.

apt-cache search p7zip
p7zip - 7zr file archiver with high compression ratio
p7zip-full - 7z and 7za file archivers with high compression ratio

p7zip-full has issues with corrupting certain rar archives but is free software.

On Nov 13, 2007 4:17 PM, Dave Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have a friend with a new debian amd-64 install. He has unrar-free but it
 won't open RAR 3.0 files. It looks like it would be worthwhile to try unrar
 but I am not able to get appropriate access for synaptic.

 I went to:
 http://packages.debian.org/sid/unrar/amd64/download

 and tried adding a line to /etc/apt/sources.list as suggested at that page but
 get error warnings when starting synaptic. The net effect is that searching
 for unrar gives only the already installed unrar-free. I have the .deb
 package for unrar but installing it fails due to a dependency error.

 Can someone point me to a tutorial or explain how to get better information
 about the problem? This is what I got from uname:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ uname -a
 Linux debianroger 2.6.18-5-amd64 #1 SMP Tue Oct 2 20:37:02 UTC 2007 x86_64
 GNU/Linux

 Thanks very much.

 Dave


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Re: sources.list help

2007-11-13 Thread Jochen Schulz
Dave Stevens:
 
 I went to:
 http://packages.debian.org/sid/unrar/amd64/download
 
 and tried adding a line to /etc/apt/sources.list as suggested at that page

Don't force us to follow your links if you could easily provide the
necessary information (i.e. the contents of the sources.list) in your
mail.

So, the page you referenced suggests to include this line:

deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian sid main non-free

Are you aware that this line is for the unstable version of Debian.
Are you running unstable? If not (for example, when you are using Debian
4.0, codenamed etch), you should remove the line again before doing
any upgrades.

Please post your sources.list so we can tell you what (or whether at
all) you are missing something essential.

My guess: you have only main at the end of your entries for etch. You
can add nonfree to all these lines (just like above) and you should
find unrar.

 but get error warnings when starting synaptic.

Don't force us to guess what error message synaptic spew out.

 Can someone point me to a tutorial or explain how to get better information 
 about the problem?

Not specific to the problem, but you should probably skim through the
Debian reference and the Debian FAQ. There's also wiki.debian.org.

 This is what I got from uname:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ uname -a
 Linux debianroger 2.6.18-5-amd64 #1 SMP Tue Oct 2 20:37:02 UTC 2007 x86_64 
 GNU/Linux

Nice to know but totally irrevelant regarding your question. :) (Sorry,
I know. Asking questions the right way is an art in itself.)

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re: sources.list help

2007-11-13 Thread Dave Stevens
Jochen Schulz, Robert Isaac,

Thanks for your info. The Debian computer is not mine and I was not at it when 
writing. I apologize for the scant information, but finding out what 
information to provide was part of my purpose. I'll write again after trying 
your suggestions and will provide more info along the lines you've suggested.

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Re: sources.list help

2007-11-13 Thread Thierry Chatelet
On Tuesday 13 November 2007 22:17, Dave Stevens wrote:
 I have a friend with a new debian amd-64 install. He has unrar-free but it
 won't open RAR 3.0 files. It looks like it would be worthwhile to try unrar
 but I am not able to get appropriate access for synaptic.

 I went to:
 http://packages.debian.org/sid/unrar/amd64/download

 and tried adding a line to /etc/apt/sources.list as suggested at that page
 but get error warnings when starting synaptic. The net effect is that
 searching for unrar gives only the already installed unrar-free. I have the
 .deb package for unrar but installing it fails due to a dependency error.

 Can someone point me to a tutorial or explain how to get better information
 about the problem? This is what I got from uname:

 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ uname -a
 Linux debianroger 2.6.18-5-amd64 #1 SMP Tue Oct 2 20:37:02 UTC 2007 x86_64
 GNU/Linux

 Thanks very much.

 Dave



From package description:
Unrar can extract files from .rar archives. Can't handle archives in the RAR 
3.0 format, only the non-free unrar package can do that. . Homepage: 
https://gna.org/projects/unrar/
Thierry



Re: sources.list question

2006-12-09 Thread Matt Richardson

On 12/8/06, Manolo Díaz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Matt Richardson wrote:
 If I were to put 'etch' instead of 'testing' in my sources.list, like so

 deb http://sluglug.ucsc.edu/debian/ etch main

 on a new install, will I see any difference when etch becomes the new
 stable?  Sorry for the dumb question, but I've always put 'stable' or
 'unstable' rather than 'sarge' or 'sid' in my sources.list.  I've got
 some new servers that I want to run stable amd64, but don't really
 have the time to wait for Debian 4.

 I guess the other alternative is to run the unofficial amd64 sarge.

 thanks,
No, when etch becomes stable you won't see any difference until etch
becomes oldstable, so you will have time enough then to put stable
instead of etch.


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Thanks, I was pretty sure that would be the case.  Everything pointed
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sources.list question

2006-12-08 Thread Matt Richardson

If I were to put 'etch' instead of 'testing' in my sources.list, like so

deb http://sluglug.ucsc.edu/debian/ etch main

on a new install, will I see any difference when etch becomes the new
stable?  Sorry for the dumb question, but I've always put 'stable' or
'unstable' rather than 'sarge' or 'sid' in my sources.list.  I've got
some new servers that I want to run stable amd64, but don't really
have the time to wait for Debian 4.

I guess the other alternative is to run the unofficial amd64 sarge.

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Re: sources.list question

2006-12-08 Thread Manolo Díaz
Matt Richardson wrote:
 If I were to put 'etch' instead of 'testing' in my sources.list, like so

 deb http://sluglug.ucsc.edu/debian/ etch main

 on a new install, will I see any difference when etch becomes the new
 stable?  Sorry for the dumb question, but I've always put 'stable' or
 'unstable' rather than 'sarge' or 'sid' in my sources.list.  I've got
 some new servers that I want to run stable amd64, but don't really
 have the time to wait for Debian 4.

 I guess the other alternative is to run the unofficial amd64 sarge.

 thanks,
No, when etch becomes stable you won't see any difference until etch
becomes oldstable, so you will have time enough then to put stable
instead of etch.


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gnome-bluetooth and sources.list

2006-07-05 Thread Daniele Salatti
Where can I find sources.list repository for gnome-bluetooth and 
gnome-phone-manager packages?


TIA


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sources.list entries for amd64 testing

2006-06-19 Thread Leo Bogert
Hello,

I have been using the following since I installed amd64-etch-testing half a
year ago:

deb ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian-amd64/ testing main
deb-src ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian-amd64/ testing main

Now the testing branch does not work anymore, apt cannot find the files on
that mirror.
What is the correct URL for the testing packages?

Thanks, Leo Bogert


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Re: sources.list entries for amd64 testing

2006-06-19 Thread Jo Shields

Leo Bogert wrote:

Hello,

I have been using the following since I installed amd64-etch-testing half a
year ago:

deb ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian-amd64/ testing main
deb-src ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian-amd64/ testing main

Now the testing branch does not work anymore, apt cannot find the files on
that mirror.
What is the correct URL for the testing packages?

Thanks, Leo Bogert


Use a Debian mirror.


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Re: sources.list entries for amd64 testing

2006-06-19 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
Leo Bogert wrote:
 What is the correct URL for the testing packages?
   
AMD64 etch should be in ftp.de.debian.org/debian, just like sid.

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RE: sources.list entries for amd64 testing

2006-06-19 Thread Leo Bogert
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Christoph Anton Mitterer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Leo Bogert wrote:
  What is the correct URL for the testing packages?

 AMD64 etch should be in ftp.de.debian.org/debian, just like sid.
 
 Chris.

Does etch equal to testing or unstable? And what is sid?

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Re: sources.list entries for amd64 testing

2006-06-19 Thread Manolo Díaz

Leo Bogert wrote:
Manolo Díaz wrote:

Leo Bogert wrote:
 

-Original Message-
From: Christoph Anton Mitterer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Leo Bogert wrote:

What is the correct URL for the testing packages?
  

AMD64 etch should be in ftp.de.debian.org/debian, just like sid.

Chris.


Does etch equal to testing or unstable? And what is sid?

Thanks, Leo Bogert


Testing changes every major release, now is etch; and sid is 
always unstable.


Manolo

Forgot to say that testing is always the next major release when it becomes 
stable enough and CC to the list.


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sources.list

2006-06-14 Thread Francesco Pietra
Why with amd64 (if I can still use this label) for dual opteron

#aptitude update

continues to report to be unable to contact sources when the sources.list is:


deb http://security.debian.org etch/updates main contrib non-free
# deb-src http://security.debian.org etch/updates main contrib

deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian etch main contrib non-free
# deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian etch main contrib

# deb http://ftp.debian-unofficial.org/debian etch main contrib non-free


I got this morning security updates but also that warning. Is any mistake in 
the sources.list

Thank you

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Re: sources.list

2006-06-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello Francesco,

for which source did you get connection errors? ftp.d.o?

You could try a mirror instead.

Kind regards,
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Re: sources.list

2006-06-14 Thread Francesco Pietra
Hi Marko:
Just to replay your request in detail, I have rerun with the same sources.list

#aptitude update

this was about one hour (8.00 UTC) after the erroneous report and gave no 
errors. It read the non-source security and Fetched 2B in 1s (2B/s).

Sorry for my previous e-mail, but this is the first time in about a week that 
no errors are reported with that sources.list.

Cheers

francesco pietra

On Wednesday 14 June 2006 09:36, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello Francesco,

 for which source did you get connection errors? ftp.d.o?

 You could try a mirror instead.

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Re: sources.list ???

2006-05-31 Thread Rafael Rodríguez

El Miércoles, 31 de Mayo de 2006 07:23, Dean Hamstead escribió:
 ahh ok, so unstable amd64 is now in the main arcvices

For next year SoC, why not a script to analyze messages to mailing lists and 
if the topic has been so repeated during last weeks and months, filter 
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Re: sources.list ???

2006-05-31 Thread Dean Hamstead

time to update the amd64 page then ;PPP

Dean

Rafael Rodríguez wrote:

El Miércoles, 31 de Mayo de 2006 07:23, Dean Hamstead escribió:

ahh ok, so unstable amd64 is now in the main arcvices


For next year SoC, why not a script to analyze messages to mailing lists and 
if the topic has been so repeated during last weeks and months, filter 
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Lightweight GUIs [was Re: sources.list ???]

2006-05-31 Thread Austin Denyer
Dean Hamstead wrote:
 enlightenment is awesome. nor bars or docks or loading bays etc
 
 just screen real estate.
 
 Dean
 

 I would recommend xfce, it's a lot lighter, faster and works just
 fine, if colours and things are a must, try enlightenment...

IceWM rocks too.  Most of the benefits of GUIs such as KDE, without the
footprint.

Put it this way - I have an old 100MHz Pentium laptop with 16Mb RAM, and
it can do IceWM.  It's not fast, but it's certainly usable.

Put IceWM on a slow machine and it's fast (compared to many GUIs) - put
it on a fast machine and it SCREAMS!

I run it on my own AMD64 at home...

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Re: sources.list ???

2006-05-31 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 09:35:08PM -0500, Igor TAmara wrote:
 Hey, if you want that, just use ion2 or ion3 , nobody will want to touch
 your session :) , I use it all the time and is the fastest and
 productive I've ever used.  Fast, keyboard friendly and mouse users
 refuse to use it ;)

How do you make ion understand that sometimes you want windows that are
not full screen and are side by side?

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Re: sources.list ???

2006-05-31 Thread Igor TAmara
Hi, 
Lennart On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 09:35:08PM -0500, Igor TAmara wrote:
Lennart  Hey, if you want that, just use ion2 or ion3 , nobody will want to 
touch
Lennart  your session :) , I use it all the time and is the fastest and
Lennart  productive I've ever used.  Fast, keyboard friendly and mouse users
Lennart  refuse to use it ;)
Lennart 
Lennart How do you make ion understand that sometimes you want windows that are
Lennart not full screen and are side by side?
Lennart 
(Mod1+F3) _:attach_new({type=WFloatWS})

then you launch your apps, such as gimp or inkscape.

More info about that and other tricks on
http://modeemi.cs.tut.fi/~tuomov/ion/faq.html

You can look the results on :
http://igor.tamarapatino.org/images/screenshots/ion/Ion_WM.gif

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sources.list ???

2006-05-30 Thread helices
Yesterday, I used this:

debian-testing-amd64-netinst.iso

to install to an hp xw9300, dual opteron box.  The installation went
reasonably well; and I have a working CLI and the internet ;

Please, let me be clear: I am a long time 32-bit intel user of debian;
and I am a brand new 64-bit and opteron user.

I have a couple of issues; and this message is confined to tuning my
sources.list:

### deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Etch_ - Official Snapshot amd64 
Binary-1 (20060314)]/ etch main

deb http://mirror.espri.arizona.edu/debian-amd64/debian/ etch main
deb-src http://mirror.espri.arizona.edu/debian-amd64/debian/ etch main

deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main
# deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main
# deb http://security.debian.org/ unstable/updates main
# Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
### deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main


Obviously, that first line refers the that iso; and I no longer need it.

[1] Both of the arizona.edu lines were added during installation.

What other sources should I use?  I want to be careful, and NOT mix
into this system things that will confuse and/or break apt.  Also,
as much as possible, the reason I acquired this system is to move to
a clean 64-bit environment.

The worst installation woe, so far, is the inability to install kde.
X is working, because I can get into twm via xdm; but, kde is
preferable to that; and gnome is something that I will consider, if
necessary.

[2] Regarding the security section, following line was installed during
installation; but, did NOT ever work:

  deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main

I have tried the others there; and this is the only one that does
NOT throw errors:

  deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main

What is the best way to deal with security updates with this
installation path?


I know that I have a lot to learn about this amd64 road.  Please, point
me to resources that I should read; and, please, offer suggestions,
especially trade-offs, regarding the options that I will face.

I greatly appreciate all help and direction -- thank you.

What do you think?

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Re: sources.list ???

2006-05-30 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Am Dienstag, 30. Mai 2006 15:45 schrieb helices:
 Yesterday, I used this:

 debian-testing-amd64-netinst.iso

 to install to an hp xw9300, dual opteron box.  The installation went
 reasonably well; and I have a working CLI and the internet ;

 Please, let me be clear: I am a long time 32-bit intel user of debian;
 and I am a brand new 64-bit and opteron user.

 I have a couple of issues; and this message is confined to tuning my
 sources.list:

 ### deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Etch_ - Official Snapshot
 amd64 Binary-1 (20060314)]/ etch main

 deb http://mirror.espri.arizona.edu/debian-amd64/debian/ etch main
 deb-src http://mirror.espri.arizona.edu/debian-amd64/debian/ etch main

 deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main
 # deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main
 # deb http://security.debian.org/ unstable/updates main
 # Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
 ### deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main
 deb-src http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main


 Obviously, that first line refers the that iso; and I no longer need it.

 [1] Both of the arizona.edu lines were added during installation.

 What other sources should I use?  I want to be careful, and NOT mix
 into this system things that will confuse and/or break apt.  Also,
 as much as possible, the reason I acquired this system is to move to
 a clean 64-bit environment.

 The worst installation woe, so far, is the inability to install kde.
 X is working, because I can get into twm via xdm; but, kde is
 preferable to that; and gnome is something that I will consider, if
 necessary.

 [2] Regarding the security section, following line was installed during
 installation; but, did NOT ever work:

   deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main

 I have tried the others there; and this is the only one that does
 NOT throw errors:

   deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main

 What is the best way to deal with security updates with this
 installation path?


 I know that I have a lot to learn about this amd64 road.  Please, point
 me to resources that I should read; and, please, offer suggestions,
 especially trade-offs, regarding the options that I will face.

 I greatly appreciate all help and direction -- thank you.

 What do you think?

There was a change in sources.list some weeks ago. Now use the same entries as 
in 32-bit-debian. Your apt knows, which system you have.


http://something/debian-amd64/ etch main 

is obsolete now.

use 

http://something/debian/ etch main

for debian-amd64, too.

Best regards

Hans


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Re: sources.list ???

2006-05-30 Thread Igor TAmara
Hi, 
helices [1] Both of the arizona.edu lines were added during installation.
helices 
helices What other sources should I use?  I want to be careful, and NOT mix
helices into this system things that will confuse and/or break apt.  Also,
helices as much as possible, the reason I acquired this system is to move 
to
helices a clean 64-bit environment.
helices 

I replaced Arizona by
deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free

helices The worst installation woe, so far, is the inability to install 
kde.
helices X is working, because I can get into twm via xdm; but, kde is
helices preferable to that; and gnome is something that I will consider, if
helices necessary.
helices 

I would recommend xfce, it's a lot lighter, faster and works just fine, if 
colours and things are a must, try enlightenment...

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Re: sources.list ???

2006-05-30 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 03:54:56PM +0200, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:

 There was a change in sources.list some weeks ago. Now use the same entries 
 as 
 in 32-bit-debian. Your apt knows, which system you have.
 
 
 http://something/debian-amd64/ etch main 
 
 is obsolete now.
 
 use 
 
 http://something/debian/ etch main
 
 for debian-amd64, too.

This doesn't seem to work for sarge, though.

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Re: sources.list ???

2006-05-30 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 04:35:58PM +0200, Eugen Leitl wrote:
 On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 03:54:56PM +0200, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:
 
  There was a change in sources.list some weeks ago. Now use the same entries 
  as 
  in 32-bit-debian. Your apt knows, which system you have.
  
  
  http://something/debian-amd64/ etch main 
  
  is obsolete now.
  
  use 
  
  http://something/debian/ etch main
  
  for debian-amd64, too.
 
 This doesn't seem to work for sarge, though.

Sarge will never have official support for amd64, so it will never work
the way future releases do.  You have to use the unofficial sites for
amd64 sarge, since it is not a debian release.

Unofficial sarge-amd64 is being maintained.  Unofficial etch and sid no
longer are.  You have to use either unofficial sarge, or official
etch/sid.

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Re: sources.list ???

2006-05-30 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 10:39:35AM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote:

 Sarge will never have official support for amd64, so it will never work
 the way future releases do.  You have to use the unofficial sites for
 amd64 sarge, since it is not a debian release.

Thanks. For some reason I thought I've read Sarge amd64 has
been declared official.

Am I save with below /etc/apt/sources.list for time being?

deb ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian-amd64/debian/ stable main
deb-src ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian-amd64/debian/ stable main

deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main

deb http://apt.utsl.gen.nz/debian sarge all

deb http://amd64.debian.net/debian-amd64/ sarge main contrib
 
 Unofficial sarge-amd64 is being maintained.  Unofficial etch and sid no
 longer are.  You have to use either unofficial sarge, or official
 etch/sid.

If I want to build a 64 bit vserver sarge guest, which debootstrap syntax
do I need?

I've tried 

vserver v65 build --force -n v65 --hostname v65.ativel.com --context 65 
--interface eth0:85.10.225.65/24 -m debootstrap -- -d sarge -m 
http://amd64.debian.net/debian-amd64/

which no longer has sane preferences for apt-setup.

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Re: sources.list ???

2006-05-30 Thread Scott Thomas
I added the corresponding sarge repositories

## sarge
deb http://mirror.espri.arizona.edu/debian-amd64/debian/ sarge main non-free 
contrib
deb-src http://mirror.espri.arizona.edu/debian-amd64/debian/ sarge main 
non-free contrib

and then did

sudo apt-get update
sudo aptitude install -t stable kde

and got a working kde from the sarge distro if that is any help.

Scott

On Tuesday 30 May 2006 9:45 am, helices wrote:
 Yesterday, I used this:

 debian-testing-amd64-netinst.iso

 to install to an hp xw9300, dual opteron box.  The installation went
 reasonably well; and I have a working CLI and the internet ;

 Please, let me be clear: I am a long time 32-bit intel user of debian;
 and I am a brand new 64-bit and opteron user.

 I have a couple of issues; and this message is confined to tuning my
 sources.list:

 ### deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Etch_ - Official Snapshot
 amd64 Binary-1 (20060314)]/ etch main

 deb http://mirror.espri.arizona.edu/debian-amd64/debian/ etch main
 deb-src http://mirror.espri.arizona.edu/debian-amd64/debian/ etch main

 deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main
 # deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main
 # deb http://security.debian.org/ unstable/updates main
 # Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
 ### deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main
 deb-src http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main


 Obviously, that first line refers the that iso; and I no longer need it.

 [1] Both of the arizona.edu lines were added during installation.

 What other sources should I use?  I want to be careful, and NOT mix
 into this system things that will confuse and/or break apt.  Also,
 as much as possible, the reason I acquired this system is to move to
 a clean 64-bit environment.

 The worst installation woe, so far, is the inability to install kde.
 X is working, because I can get into twm via xdm; but, kde is
 preferable to that; and gnome is something that I will consider, if
 necessary.

 [2] Regarding the security section, following line was installed during
 installation; but, did NOT ever work:

   deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main

 I have tried the others there; and this is the only one that does
 NOT throw errors:

   deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main

 What is the best way to deal with security updates with this
 installation path?


 I know that I have a lot to learn about this amd64 road.  Please, point
 me to resources that I should read; and, please, offer suggestions,
 especially trade-offs, regarding the options that I will face.

 I greatly appreciate all help and direction -- thank you.

 What do you think?


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Re: sources.list ???

2006-05-30 Thread helices
* Scott Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006:05:30:10:40:39-0400] scribed:
 I added the corresponding sarge repositories
 
 ## sarge
 deb http://mirror.espri.arizona.edu/debian-amd64/debian/ sarge main non-free 
 contrib
 deb-src http://mirror.espri.arizona.edu/debian-amd64/debian/ sarge main 
 non-free contrib
 
 and then did
 
 sudo apt-get update
 sudo aptitude install -t stable kde
 
 and got a working kde from the sarge distro if that is any help.
 
 Scott

Is there a downside to this approach?  I have read comments discouraging
mixing 64- and 32-bit packages ...

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Re: sources.list ???

2006-05-30 Thread helices
* On 2006:05:30:08:45:45-0500 I, helices [EMAIL PROTECTED], scribed:
 Yesterday, I used this:
 
 debian-testing-amd64-netinst.iso
 
 to install to an hp xw9300, dual opteron box.  The installation went
 reasonably well; and I have a working CLI and the internet ;
 
 Please, let me be clear: I am a long time 32-bit intel user of debian;
 and I am a brand new 64-bit and opteron user.
 
 I have a couple of issues; and this message is confined to tuning my
 sources.list:
snip /

 deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main
 # deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main
 # deb http://security.debian.org/ unstable/updates main
 # Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
 ### deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main
 deb-src http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main
snip /

OK, I am making progress, in understanding and in practice, with 64-bit
packages.

However, I am still unclear: what is the proper way to get SECURITY
updates in amd64?

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Re: sources.list ???

2006-05-30 Thread helices
* Scott Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006:05:30:10:40:39-0400] scribed:
 I added the corresponding sarge repositories
 
 ## sarge
 deb http://mirror.espri.arizona.edu/debian-amd64/debian/ sarge main non-free 
 contrib
 deb-src http://mirror.espri.arizona.edu/debian-amd64/debian/ sarge main 
 non-free contrib
 
 and then did
 
 sudo apt-get update
 sudo aptitude install -t stable kde
 
 and got a working kde from the sarge distro if that is any help.
snip /

I am getting horribly unresolved dependencies on several dozen packages
;

What do you have in?

/etc/apt/preferences

Thank you, for your participation in these matters ...

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Re: sources.list ???

2006-05-30 Thread Scott Thomas
On Tuesday 30 May 2006 6:01 pm, helices wrote:
snip
 I am getting horribly unresolved dependencies on several dozen packages
 ;

 What do you have in?

 /etc/apt/preferences

 Thank you, for your participation in these matters ...
/snip

I do not have a preferences file - and did not set preferences in the config 
file. I tried that before, but was having dependency issues. Now I keep both 
stable and testing in sources.list and use the -t flag to determine what I 
want to install.

Mostly, I use -t stable for kde and related things, and go with etch for 
system utilities, etc.

Scott


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Re: sources.list ???

2006-05-30 Thread Dean Hamstead

enlightenment is awesome. nor bars or docks or loading bays etc

just screen real estate.

Dean



I would recommend xfce, it's a lot lighter, faster and works just fine, if 
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Re: sources.list ???

2006-05-30 Thread Corey Hickey

Dean Hamstead wrote:

enlightenment is awesome. nor bars or docks or loading bays etc

just screen real estate.


Properly configured, Enlightenment is a great way to keep people from 
using your computer until you show them how. ;) That's what I do -- no 
need for a screensaver password.


-Corey


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Re: sources.list ???

2006-05-30 Thread Dean Hamstead

you clearly don't have a 16 year old sister ;)

Dean

Corey Hickey wrote:

Dean Hamstead wrote:

enlightenment is awesome. nor bars or docks or loading bays etc

just screen real estate.


Properly configured, Enlightenment is a great way to keep people from 
using your computer until you show them how. ;) That's what I do -- no 
need for a screensaver password.


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2006-05-30 Thread Sam Varghese
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 OK, I am making progress, in understanding and in practice, with 64-bit
 packages.
 
 However, I am still unclear: what is the proper way to get SECURITY
 updates in amd64?

For stable:

deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib non-free


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 On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 04:51:52PM -0500 helices said:
  * On 2006:05:30:08:45:45-0500 I, helices [EMAIL PROTECTED], scribed:
  
  OK, I am making progress, in understanding and in practice, with 64-bit
  packages.
  
  However, I am still unclear: what is the proper way to get SECURITY
  updates in amd64?
 
 For stable:
 
 deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib non-free

for etch 

deb http://secure-testing.debian.net/debian-secure-testing
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deb-src http://secure-testing.debian.net/debian-secure-testing
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2006-05-30 Thread helices
* Alexander Samad [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006:05:31:11:00:11+1000] scribed:
 On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 10:12:18AM +1000, Sam Varghese wrote:
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  On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 04:51:52PM -0500 helices said:
   * On 2006:05:30:08:45:45-0500 I, helices [EMAIL PROTECTED], scribed:
   
   OK, I am making progress, in understanding and in practice, with 64-bit
   packages.
   
   However, I am still unclear: what is the proper way to get SECURITY
   updates in amd64?
  
  For stable:
  
  deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib non-free
 
 for etch 
 
 deb http://secure-testing.debian.net/debian-secure-testing
 etch/security-updates main contrib non-free
 deb-src http://secure-testing.debian.net/debian-secure-testing
 etch/security-updates main contrib non-free

Cool!  But, what is this update error?

W: GPG error: http://secure-testing.debian.net etch/security-updates
Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the
public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 946AA6E18722E71E


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On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 11:37:44AM +1000 Dean Hamstead said:
 speaking of sources.list, is there a good etch/sid (unstable  testing)
 mirror in australia?
 
 i was using mirror.pacific.net.au (huray unmetered downloads) but they
 seem to now be only mirroring sarge for amd64 (aka stable)

They generally seem to be out of date. I tried a few and gave up. I
now use debian.csail.mit.edu.

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2006-05-30 Thread Alexander Samad
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 On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 11:37:44AM +1000 Dean Hamstead said:
  speaking of sources.list, is there a good etch/sid (unstable  testing)
  mirror in australia?
  
  i was using mirror.pacific.net.au (huray unmetered downloads) but they
  seem to now be only mirroring sarge for amd64 (aka stable)
 
 They generally seem to be out of date. I tried a few and gave up. I
 now use debian.csail.mit.edu.

I use these as well

ftp://ftp.au.debian.org/debian
ftp://ftp.wa.au.debian.org/debian


but I have mine setup in apt-proxy

 
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Re: sources.list ???

2006-05-30 Thread Alexander Samad
On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 08:32:14PM -0500, helices wrote:
 * Alexander Samad [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006:05:31:11:00:11+1000] scribed:
  On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 10:12:18AM +1000, Sam Varghese wrote:
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   On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 04:51:52PM -0500 helices said:
* On 2006:05:30:08:45:45-0500 I, helices [EMAIL PROTECTED], scribed:

OK, I am making progress, in understanding and in practice, with 64-bit
packages.

However, I am still unclear: what is the proper way to get SECURITY
updates in amd64?
   
   For stable:
   
   deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib non-free
  
  for etch 
  
  deb http://secure-testing.debian.net/debian-secure-testing
  etch/security-updates main contrib non-free
  deb-src http://secure-testing.debian.net/debian-secure-testing
  etch/security-updates main contrib non-free
 
 Cool!  But, what is this update error?
 
 W: GPG error: http://secure-testing.debian.net etch/security-updates
 Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the
 public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 946AA6E18722E71E

that means that the gpg key associated with that repository is not in
the apt-key chain.

do something like 

gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net --recv-keys 946AA6E18722E71E
gpg --armor --export 946AA6E18722E71E | apt-key add -

 
 
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Re: sources.list ???

2006-05-30 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 11:37:44AM +1000, Dean Hamstead wrote:
 speaking of sources.list, is there a good etch/sid (unstable  testing)
 mirror in australia?
 
 i was using mirror.pacific.net.au (huray unmetered downloads) but they
 seem to now be only mirroring sarge for amd64 (aka stable)

For debian-amd64 specifically there is only sarge now. For unstable, use
regular Debian - it supports amd64 as per any other architecture.

I am using mirror.aarnet.edu.au and http.us.debian.org.


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Re: sources.list ???

2006-05-30 Thread Dean Hamstead

ahh ok, so unstable amd64 is now in the main arcvices



Dean

Hamish Moffatt wrote:

On Wed, May 31, 2006 at 11:37:44AM +1000, Dean Hamstead wrote:

speaking of sources.list, is there a good etch/sid (unstable  testing)
mirror in australia?

i was using mirror.pacific.net.au (huray unmetered downloads) but they
seem to now be only mirroring sarge for amd64 (aka stable)


For debian-amd64 specifically there is only sarge now. For unstable, use
regular Debian - it supports amd64 as per any other architecture.

I am using mirror.aarnet.edu.au and http.us.debian.org.


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Re: Recommended sources.list for new etch installs.

2006-04-23 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
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 On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 02:12:12PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
 Try
 
 deb http://amd64.cc.mirrors.debian.net/debian sid main contrib non-free

sorry, this actualy needs to be

deb http://cc.amd64.mirror.debian.net/debian sid main contrib non-free

which seems to be still missing from the aliases list. For now you can
use

deb http://cc.i386.mirror.debian.net/debian sid main contrib non-free

since all main mirrors must have i386 and amd64.

 etch still needs time for packages to drift into it from the official
 sid. It will be some more weeks/month before that populated enough to
 be usable.

 Are there any problems involved in *adding* a line like this to an 
 existing sources.list, rather than replacing an existing one?

That would result in different builds of the same package and version
to be available to apt. Often that results in apt reinstalling the
package on every upgrade. Apart from that nothing bad should happen.

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Re: sources.list problem

2006-04-23 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Russ Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 In light of the recent announcement The Future of AMD64 Port on this
 list, I have attempted
 to update my sources.list file for Apt.  I have attached the file for
 reference.  I have tried various

But then you have only the old mirror in there and the new archive
commented out. That should be the other way around.

 combinations of the mirrors in the file in an attempt to eliminate
 error messages returned by the
 command apt-get update.  A script file of that command's output is
 attached, also.  At this
 point, the apt database files on my machine appear to be corrupted.
 Is there a way to rebuild
 the database files and get clean run from apt-get update?  A sample
 sources.list file would
 be greatly appreciated.

There is a clear error here:

 E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room

This bug in apt is actualy so common that googling for it gives you
tons of help. Try it.

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Re: sources.list problem

2006-04-23 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Russ Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 bzip2: Compressed file ends unexpectedly;
   perhaps it is corrupted?  *Possible* reason follows.
 bzip2: Inappropriate ioctl for device
   Input file = (stdin), output file = (stdout)

Yeah, that should be. Maybe you tried in the middle of a mirror pulse.

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Re: Recommended sources.list for new etch installs.

2006-04-22 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
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 Are there any problems involved in *adding* a line like this to an 
 existing sources.list, rather than replacing an existing one?

I'm (still) using a hybrid setup along those lines; it seems to work
fine, though you need to take some care to ensure that you always get
official packages.  With the old autobuilder shut off, I believe the
following should be sufficient:

- Run apt-cache clean to get rid of unofficial binaries.
- Give unofficial packages a lower priority in /etc/apt/preferences:

Explanation: Discount the unofficial amd64 archive, as the official
Explanation: archive is finally starting to gain amd64 binary packages.
Package: *
Pin: release l=Debian AMD64 archive
Pin-Priority: 300

- For good measure, also list them later in your sources.list.

Also, be advised that most of the old archive's binary-only rebuilds
have been superseded; here's the code I use to determine what needs
downgrading:

#unofficial=unofficial package lists (filenames)
#official=official package lists
grep-dctrl -n -sPackage -FVersion -e '\+b[0-9]+$' $unofficial | \
sed -e 's/^/\^/; s/[.+]//g;
s/$/\$~S~i~V+b[0-9]+$/' | \
xargs --no-run-if-empty aptitude -F '%p' search | \
sed -e 's/^/\^Package: /; s/[.+]/\\/; s/ *$/\$/'  bin-nmu-patterns
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grep -Ehf bin-nmu-patterns | \
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Re: sources.list for amd64

2006-04-21 Thread Anders Ellenshøj Andersen
fredag 21 april 2006 04:17 skrev Stephen Woodbridge:
 Ok, I'm drawing a blank, where do I find a list of the main mirrors.

 So I have sarge/stable pointing at the debian-amd64 mirrors, is this
 correct?

 And I don't reference testing at all, only sid.

I believe for sid, the correct sources are:

deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free
deb-src http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free

Don't know if other Debian mirrors has amd64. I would be interested in 
knowing, so I can get the closest one of course.

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Re: sources.list for amd64

2006-04-21 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 08:21:18AM +0200, Anders Ellenshøj Andersen wrote:
 fredag 21 april 2006 04:17 skrev Stephen Woodbridge:
  Ok, I'm drawing a blank, where do I find a list of the main mirrors.
 
  So I have sarge/stable pointing at the debian-amd64 mirrors, is this
  correct?
 
  And I don't reference testing at all, only sid.
 
 I believe for sid, the correct sources are:
 
 deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free
 deb-src http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free
 
 Don't know if other Debian mirrors has amd64. I would be interested in 
 knowing, so I can get the closest one of course.


I have 

deb ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian-amd64/debian/ stable main
deb-src ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian-amd64/debian/ stable main

deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main

deb http://apt.utsl.gen.nz/debian sarge all

deb http://amd64.debian.net/debian-amd64/ sarge main contrib

in mine. This is correct for stable, right?

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Re: sources.list for amd64

2006-04-21 Thread Anders Ellenshøj Andersen
fredag 21 april 2006 08:53 skrev Eugen Leitl:
 I have

 deb ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian-amd64/debian/ stable main
 deb-src ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian-amd64/debian/ stable main

 in mine. This is correct for stable, right?

Hmm.. As far as I know, there shouldn't even exist at stable version of the 
amd64 port.

??

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Re: sources.list for amd64

2006-04-21 Thread Jo Shields

Anders Ellenshøj Andersen wrote:


fredag 21 april 2006 08:53 skrev Eugen Leitl:
 


I have

deb ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian-amd64/debian/ stable main
deb-src ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian-amd64/debian/ stable main

in mine. This is correct for stable, right?
   



Hmm.. As far as I know, there shouldn't even exist at stable version of the 
amd64 port.


??

Anders


 

/debian-amd64/ for Stable (only on some mirrors, see mirrors list on 
amd64.debian.net) and a lot of Testing

/debian/ for Unstable, and soon Testing


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Re: sources.list for amd64

2006-04-21 Thread Eugen Leitl
On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 10:33:51AM +0200, Anders Ellenshøj Andersen wrote:
 fredag 21 april 2006 08:53 skrev Eugen Leitl:
  I have
 
  deb ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian-amd64/debian/ stable main
  deb-src ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian-amd64/debian/ stable main
 
  in mine. This is correct for stable, right?
 
 Hmm.. As far as I know, there shouldn't even exist at stable version of the 
 amd64 port.
 
 ??

http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/

...
The unofficial stable release of the Debian AMD64 port was released by the 
porting team on June 8th, 2005.
...
The stable release of the unofficial port is based on unpatched Sarge sources 
and has full security support by the Debian Security Team. The Debian-Backports 
and -Volatile services are fully supported, too.

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Re: Recommended sources.list for new etch installs.

2006-04-21 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Try

deb http://amd64.cc.mirrors.debian.net/debian sid main contrib non-free

etch still needs time for packages to drift into it from the official
sid. It will be some more weeks/month before that populated enough to
be usable.

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Re: sources.list for amd64

2006-04-21 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Anders Ellenshøj Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 fredag 21 april 2006 04:17 skrev Stephen Woodbridge:
 Ok, I'm drawing a blank, where do I find a list of the main mirrors.

 So I have sarge/stable pointing at the debian-amd64 mirrors, is this
 correct?

 And I don't reference testing at all, only sid.

 I believe for sid, the correct sources are:

 deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free
 deb-src http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free

 Don't know if other Debian mirrors has amd64. I would be interested in 
 knowing, so I can get the closest one of course.

 Anders

amd64.cc.mirrors.debian.net  (if they get around to adding them).

But amd64 is required on all (normal) debian mirrors just like i386
and source.

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Re: Recommended sources.list for new etch installs.

2006-04-21 Thread hendrik
On Fri, Apr 21, 2006 at 02:12:12PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
 Try
 
 deb http://amd64.cc.mirrors.debian.net/debian sid main contrib non-free
 
 etch still needs time for packages to drift into it from the official
 sid. It will be some more weeks/month before that populated enough to
 be usable.

Are there any problems involved in *adding* a line like this to an 
existing sources.list, rather than replacing an existing one?

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sources.list problem

2006-04-21 Thread Russ Cook
In light of the recent announcement The Future of AMD64 Port on this 
list, I have attempted
to update my sources.list file for Apt.  I have attached the file for 
reference.  I have tried various
combinations of the mirrors in the file in an attempt to eliminate error 
messages returned by the
command apt-get update.  A script file of that command's output is 
attached, also.  At this
point, the apt database files on my machine appear to be corrupted.  Is 
there a way to rebuild
the database files and get clean run from apt-get update?  A sample 
sources.list file would

be greatly appreciated.

I am running an AMD64 machine, originally installed in pure 64 bit 
configuration. 
Any help greatly accepted, and I'd be glad to provide more info, if 
someone would tell
me what is needed to better describe the problem.  My problems began as 
I tried unsuccessfully
to get an update of gnumeric - it is now broken between 1.6.3-1, 
1.6.2-3, and 1.6.3-1+b1.

Help here would be greatly appreciated, also.

Thanks much to the list.
#deb file:///cdrom/ stable main

deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sid main
deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sarge main

deb http://mirror.espri.arizona.edu/debian-amd64/debian/ sid main contrib 
non-free
deb http://mirror.espri.arizona.edu/debian-amd64/debian/ sarge main contrib 
non-free

deb-src http://mirror.espri.arizona.edu/debian-amd64/debian/ sid main contrib 
non-free

#deb ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib non-free
#deb ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stable   main contrib non-free

deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib non-free
Script started on Fri 21 Apr 2006 06:23:41 PM CDT


0% [Working]

Get: 1 http://mirror.espri.arizona.edu sid Release.gpg [189B]


97% [Logging in] [1 Release.gpg 189/189B 100%] [Waiting for headers]

Get: 2 http://mirror.espri.arizona.edu sarge Release.gpg [189B]

98% [Logging in] [2 Release.gpg 189/189B 100%] [Waiting for headers]

98% [Logging in] [Waiting for headers]
  
Get: 3 http://security.debian.org stable/updates Release.gpg [189B]

  
99% [Logging in] [Waiting for headers] [3 Release.gpg 189/189B 100%]

99% [Logging in] [Waiting for headers]
  
Hit http://mirror.espri.arizona.edu sid Release

99% [Logging in] [Waiting for headers]
  
99% [Release gpgv 5902] [Logging in] [Waiting for headers] [Waiting for headers
   
99% [Logging in] [Waiting for headers] [Waiting for headers]

Hit http://security.debian.org stable/updates Release


99% [Logging in] [Waiting for headers]
  
99% [Release gpgv 19992] [Logging in] [Waiting for headers]
   
99% [Logging in] [Waiting for headers]
  
Hit http://mirror.espri.arizona.edu sarge Release

99% [Logging in] [Waiting for headers]
  
99% [Release gpgv 4812] [Logging in] [Waiting for headers]
  
99% [Logging in] [Waiting for headers] [Waiting for headers]

Ign http://security.debian.org stable/updates/main Packages


99% [Logging in] [Waiting for headers]
  
Hit http://mirror.espri.arizona.edu sid/main Packages

  
Hit http://mirror.espri.arizona.edu sid/contrib Packages

  
Hit http://mirror.espri.arizona.edu sid/non-free Packages

  
Hit http://mirror.espri.arizona.edu sid/main Sources

  
Hit http://mirror.espri.arizona.edu sid/contrib Sources

  
Hit http://mirror.espri.arizona.edu sid/non-free Sources

99% [Logging in] [Waiting for headers]
  
Ign http://security.debian.org stable/updates/contrib Packages

99% [Logging in] [Waiting for headers]
  
Ign http://security.debian.org stable/updates/non-free Packages

99% [Logging in] [Waiting for headers]
  
Hit http://mirror.espri.arizona.edu sarge/main Packages

  
Hit http://mirror.espri.arizona.edu sarge/contrib Packages

Re: sources.list problem

2006-04-21 Thread Stephen Cormier
On Friday 21 April 2006 20:39, Russ Cook wrote:
 In light of the recent announcement The Future of AMD64 Port on this
 list, I have attempted
 to update my sources.list file for Apt.  I have attached the file for
 reference.  I have tried various
 combinations of the mirrors in the file in an attempt to eliminate error
 messages returned by the
 command apt-get update.  A script file of that command's output is
 attached, also.  At this
 point, the apt database files on my machine appear to be corrupted.  Is
 there a way to rebuild
 the database files and get clean run from apt-get update?  A sample
 sources.list file would
 be greatly appreciated.

 I am running an AMD64 machine, originally installed in pure 64 bit
 configuration.
 Any help greatly accepted, and I'd be glad to provide more info, if
 someone would tell
 me what is needed to better describe the problem.  My problems began as
 I tried unsuccessfully
 to get an update of gnumeric - it is now broken between 1.6.3-1,
 1.6.2-3, and 1.6.3-1+b1.
 Help here would be greatly appreciated, also.

 Thanks much to the list.

E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room

Try putting APT::Cache-Limit 2000; without the  in the 
file /etc/apt/apt.conf to increase the cache size, if the file does not exist 
then create it with this for the contents.

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sources.list for amd64

2006-04-20 Thread Stephen Woodbridge

Hi all,

my sources.list file is what I put together in December. With the amd64 
getting main streamed, Will I need to change it? Has it changed yet? I 
noticed some unstable packages at http://packages.debian.org/unstable/ 
that don't show up when I apt-cache search for them!


Thanks,
  -Steve

--- sources.list ---
#deb file:///cdrom/ sarge main

deb http://debian.csail.mit.edu/debian-amd64/debian/ sarge main non-free 
contrib
deb-src http://debian.csail.mit.edu/debian-amd64/debian/ sarge main 
non-free contrib


deb http://mirror.espri.arizona.edu/debian-amd64/debian/ sarge main 
non-free contrib
deb-src http://mirror.espri.arizona.edu/debian-amd64/debian/ sarge main 
non-free contrib


deb http://debian.csail.mit.edu/debian-amd64/debian/ sid main non-free 
contrib
deb-src http://debian.csail.mit.edu/debian-amd64/debian/ sid main 
non-free contrib


deb http://security.debian.org/ sarge/updates main contrib non-free

deb-src http://ftp.edgewall.com/pub/debian sarge trac


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Re: sources.list for amd64

2006-04-20 Thread Ian Kester-Haney
Your sid references need to revert to the main mirrors, afaic the
testing is still on the amd64 mirrors only.

On 4/20/06, Stephen Woodbridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi all,

 my sources.list file is what I put together in December. With the amd64
 getting main streamed, Will I need to change it? Has it changed yet? I
 noticed some unstable packages at http://packages.debian.org/unstable/
 that don't show up when I apt-cache search for them!

 Thanks,
-Steve

 --- sources.list ---
 #deb file:///cdrom/ sarge main

 deb http://debian.csail.mit.edu/debian-amd64/debian/ sarge main non-free
 contrib
 deb-src http://debian.csail.mit.edu/debian-amd64/debian/ sarge main
 non-free contrib

 deb http://mirror.espri.arizona.edu/debian-amd64/debian/ sarge main
 non-free contrib
 deb-src http://mirror.espri.arizona.edu/debian-amd64/debian/ sarge main
 non-free contrib

 deb http://debian.csail.mit.edu/debian-amd64/debian/ sid main non-free
 contrib
 deb-src http://debian.csail.mit.edu/debian-amd64/debian/ sid main
 non-free contrib

 deb http://security.debian.org/ sarge/updates main contrib non-free

 deb-src http://ftp.edgewall.com/pub/debian sarge trac


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Re: sources.list for amd64

2006-04-20 Thread Stephen Woodbridge

Ok, I'm drawing a blank, where do I find a list of the main mirrors.

So I have sarge/stable pointing at the debian-amd64 mirrors, is this 
correct?


And I don't reference testing at all, only sid.

Thanks for the quick response,
  -Steve

Ian Kester-Haney wrote:

Your sid references need to revert to the main mirrors, afaic the
testing is still on the amd64 mirrors only.

On 4/20/06, Stephen Woodbridge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi all,

my sources.list file is what I put together in December. With the amd64
getting main streamed, Will I need to change it? Has it changed yet? I
noticed some unstable packages at http://packages.debian.org/unstable/
that don't show up when I apt-cache search for them!

Thanks,
  -Steve

--- sources.list ---
#deb file:///cdrom/ sarge main

deb http://debian.csail.mit.edu/debian-amd64/debian/ sarge main non-free
contrib
deb-src http://debian.csail.mit.edu/debian-amd64/debian/ sarge main
non-free contrib

deb http://mirror.espri.arizona.edu/debian-amd64/debian/ sarge main
non-free contrib
deb-src http://mirror.espri.arizona.edu/debian-amd64/debian/ sarge main
non-free contrib

deb http://debian.csail.mit.edu/debian-amd64/debian/ sid main non-free
contrib
deb-src http://debian.csail.mit.edu/debian-amd64/debian/ sid main
non-free contrib

deb http://security.debian.org/ sarge/updates main contrib non-free

deb-src http://ftp.edgewall.com/pub/debian sarge trac


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Recommended sources.list for new etch installs.

2006-04-19 Thread Gaute Strokkenes
Recently I purchased a new amd64 PC, and proceeded to install debian
unstable on it.  (I have been using debian unstable on an i386 as my
sole desktop system for several years, so I'm reasonably familiar with
debian.)  I booted the system from a USB stick with the netinst ISO
image on it.  (I used the etch beta 2 images.)

The install itself went fairly smoothly.  There were a few hickups:
The install will not complete unless a network connection is
available, and some of the decisions made by the partitioning tool
seem a bit odd: My root partition is only just over a quarter of a
gigabyte large (on a 300GB drive), and I didn't succeed in enlargening
it during the installation process.  Eventually I decided to just
trust the default settings.  However, my root partition is already 43%
full...but I digress.

After the install was done I noticed that very few packages were
installed, and that some packages were simply not available via the
default sources.list, for instance I was initally unable to install
make (404 error).  After some fiddling and googling about I ended up
with the following:

--8--
# 
# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux testing _Etch_ - Official Snapshot amd64 Binary-1 
(20060314)]/ etch main
deb ftp://mirror.espri.arizona.edu/debian-amd64/debian/ etch main contrib 
non-free
deb-src ftp://mirror.espri.arizona.edu/debian-amd64/debian/ etch main contrib 
non-free

deb ftp://debian.csail.mit.edu/debian-amd64/debian/ etch main contrib non-free

deb ftp://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian etch main contrib non-free
deb-src ftp://ftp.uk.debian.org/debian etch main contrib non-free

deb ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian etch main contrib non-free
deb-src ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian etch main contrib non-free


# Line commented out by installer because it failed to verify:
#deb http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ etch/updates main
--8--

Even with this I was unable to do apt-get install gnome, for
instance.  I am somewhat curious whether this is broken in testing in
general right now or whether this is amd64-specific breakage.

Another package that I can't find is nvidia-kernel-source, though
its companion package nvidia-common is available.

I've looked briefly through the debian-amd64 mailing list archives and
I understand that the amd64 port is transitioning from its own buildd
and package repository infrastructure to the debian proper
infrastructure.  Unfortunately, I have not quite been able to work out
on my own just how this translates into sources.list entries etc.  I'd
be grateful if someone could give me a pointer in the right direction.

-- 
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Re: Entry in sources.list still necessary ?

2006-04-05 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Hans-J. Ullrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Hello all,

 in my sources.list is still the following entry, which was some time ago 
 necessary, to get some 32-bit-applications (i.e. openoffice) running (thanks 
 to Goswin von Brederlow).

 Is this entry still necessary ? This is the entry:
 --
 # Goswins

 deb file:///var/lib/amd64-archive/ sid main contrib non-free 
 --

 Regards

 Hans

If you ever want to reinstall those packages then you need it again.

MfG
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Re: Entry in sources.list still necessary ?

2006-04-04 Thread Nico Jochens

On Mon, Apr 03, 2006 at 10:20:22AM +0200, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:

Hello all,

in my sources.list is still the following entry, which was some time ago 
necessary, to get some 32-bit-applications (i.e. openoffice) running (thanks 
to Goswin von Brederlow).


Is this entry still necessary ? This is the entry:
--
# Goswins

deb file:///var/lib/amd64-archive/ sid main contrib non-free 


My entry is:

deb file:/var/lib/amd64-archive/ debian main contrib non-free

for Debian Sarge.


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Entry in sources.list still necessary ?

2006-04-03 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich
Hello all,

in my sources.list is still the following entry, which was some time ago 
necessary, to get some 32-bit-applications (i.e. openoffice) running (thanks 
to Goswin von Brederlow).

Is this entry still necessary ? This is the entry:
--
# Goswins

deb file:///var/lib/amd64-archive/ sid main contrib non-free 
--

Regards

Hans



 


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Re: Entry in sources.list still necessary ?

2006-04-03 Thread David Liontooth

Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:

Hello all,

in my sources.list is still the following entry, which was some time ago 
necessary, to get some 32-bit-applications (i.e. openoffice) running (thanks 
to Goswin von Brederlow).


Is this entry still necessary ? This is the entry:
--
# Goswins

deb file:///var/lib/amd64-archive/ sid main contrib non-free 
  

This can't be what you mean -- it points to a location on your own harddisk.

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Re: mplayer sources.list for testing?

2005-12-03 Thread Michal Hajek
Hi :)

Does anybody have experience with using hrtimers on debian amd64? 

I have found this page:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/high-res-timers

Did anyone give it a try? 

Best regards
Michal


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mplayer sources.list for testing?

2005-11-28 Thread Michal Hajek
Hello people :)

Can anyone please advice me on what entry should I include in my
/etc/apt/sources.list file, if I want to install mplayer for amd64
testing (aka etch)? 

right now my sources.list looks like this:


deb http://amd64.debian.net/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
deb-src http://amd64.debian.net/debian/ testing main contrib non-free

deb http://secure-testing.debian.net/debian-secure-testing 
etch/security-updates main contrib non-free
deb-src http://secure-testing.debian.net/debian-secure-testing 
etch/security-updates main contrib non-free

 mplayer
deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch main
^^^
unfortunately, there is only mplayer-doc available there. 

Thank you in advance...

Best regards
Michal


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Re: mplayer sources.list for testing?

2005-11-28 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Mon, Nov 28, 2005 at 02:26:02PM +0100, Michal Hajek wrote:
 Hello people :)
 
 Can anyone please advice me on what entry should I include in my
 /etc/apt/sources.list file, if I want to install mplayer for amd64
 testing (aka etch)? 
 
 right now my sources.list looks like this:
 
 
 deb http://amd64.debian.net/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
 deb-src http://amd64.debian.net/debian/ testing main contrib non-free
 
 deb http://secure-testing.debian.net/debian-secure-testing 
 etch/security-updates main contrib non-free
 deb-src http://secure-testing.debian.net/debian-secure-testing 
 etch/security-updates main contrib non-free
 
  mplayer
 deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch main
 ^^^
 unfortunately, there is only mplayer-doc available there. 

The index.html at that location has a link to:
deb http://spello.sscnet.ucla.edu/marillat/ sid main

It only has sarge and sid though, no etch.

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Re: mplayer sources.list for testing?

2005-11-28 Thread Michal Hajek
Hello :)

* Lennart Sorensen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [051128 16:00]:
 The index.html at that location has a link to:
 deb http://spello.sscnet.ucla.edu/marillat/ sid main
 
 It only has sarge and sid though, no etch.
   ^
what is than a correct debian way to get mplayer working? Should I
compile it myself, find another repository (which I cannot actualy find
:)) or just wait? (- perhaps wrong idea)

Well, I can live without mplayer actually, but that does not solve the
problem from the philosophical point of view :)

Best regards
Michal


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Re: mplayer sources.list for testing?

2005-11-28 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Mon, Nov 28, 2005 at 04:10:12PM +0100, Michal Hajek wrote:
 Hello :)
 
 * Lennart Sorensen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [051128 16:00]:
  The index.html at that location has a link to:
  deb http://spello.sscnet.ucla.edu/marillat/ sid main
  
  It only has sarge and sid though, no etch.
^
 what is than a correct debian way to get mplayer working? Should I
 compile it myself, find another repository (which I cannot actualy find
 :)) or just wait? (- perhaps wrong idea)
 
 Well, I can live without mplayer actually, but that does not solve the
 problem from the philosophical point of view :)

You could use the sid packages from that site, or you could see if it
offers source packages and just build those on your system and install
them.A

The main site has sources, including for etch.  Try those.

ie: apt-get source -b mplayer or something like that.

Len Sorensen


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