Bug#759382: webalizer log needs

2014-09-21 Thread Matt Taggart
Stefan Fritsch writes:
 On Friday 29 August 2014 17:34:03, Matt Taggart wrote:
  For the things that do store data, I think 7 days should be enough
  to ensure that they have a chance to process the logs before they
  get rotated.
 
 Thanks for the detailed analysis. Somehow 7 days seems awfully short 
 to me when one has to analyse problems. What do you think about 14 
 days?

I think that sounds great. If we determine later that it's not needed then 
it could be turned down further.

Thanks,

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Bug#759382: webalizer log needs

2014-08-29 Thread Matt Taggart
Hi,

One of the arguments for keeping more apache logs is that web analysis
tools need them. Here is a survey of things I found in Debian and what
they might need. First some general comments:

* ideally the analyzer scans the log, generates stats, and then stores
the stats and doesn't need the log anymore. There still might be
sensitive data in the results, but the data stored is greatly reduced.
* even if logfile analyzers store results and are run often, we need
to consider the case of machines with power management that might mean
they are asleep at times. Hopefully anacron will help deal with that,
but we probably want to be conservative and make sure they have plenty
of opportunity to scan the logs before they are rotated.

analog
==
Has the ability to do incremental processing with a cache file
http://www.analog.cx/docs/cache.html
debian/rules sets CACHEDIR (is that sufficient?) (only DNS?)
Doesn't seem to run via cron.

awffull
===
Fork of webalizer, see below.

awstats
===
Gathers stats from logs every 10mins, updates html once a day.

goaccess

Interactive user tool. Doesn't appear to store results and so probably
needs the logs to be useful?

lire

Appears to use a database, has daily/weekly/monthly cronjobs. Need more
info about if it stores stats.

visitors

Doesn't appear to store stats, probably requires logs?

webalizer
=
Keeps track of where it is in the log files, maintains a
an incremental history file, and runs via cron once a day.


For the things that do store data, I think 7 days should be enough to
ensure that they have a chance to process the logs before they get
rotated.

The above might be interesting for nginx log retention as well.

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apache2 wheezy backport

2013-09-21 Thread Matt Taggart
Hi apache maintainers,

Could you provide a backport of jessie apache2 to wheezy-backports? I would 
like some of the newer SSL features.

Someone pointed out this HOWTO

  https://tinyurl.com/nl8965g

that is recommending people frankenstein their systems by installing jessie 
libc6 in order to install jessie apache2 on wheezy. I think a backport 
would be a much cleaner way of solving that.

(there may be some additional things in that HOWTO that would be good to 
consider for the apache2 packages, I haven't reviewed it closely to see if 
it's good advice)

If this is just a matter of rebuilding things for wheezy-backports and 
uploading and you'd like me to do that, just let know.

Thanks,

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