Re: The status of libapache2-mod-perl2
On 8/16/07, Gunnar Wolf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Should we hijack/adopt the package, or will its current maintainers stand up and get it back to life? - Is there somebody who wants to lead this? - Pkg-perl and/or Apache groups: Do you agree? :) - In any other case: Other takers? I think that such an important module would benefit from group maintenance, be it the apache or the perl group. I don't think I have all the knowledge to lead it, but I can help. I have used mod_perl a lot, know enough C, and I'm already somewhat familiar with basic perlguts. -- Martín Ferrari
Re: The status of libapache2-mod-perl2
On Wed, Aug 15, 2007 at 09:32:30PM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote: - Should we hijack/adopt the package, or will its current maintainers stand up and get it back to life? - Is there somebody who wants to lead this? - Pkg-perl and/or Apache groups: Do you agree? :) - In any other case: Other takers? The debian-apache group has both the necssary perl, apache, and C skills required to maintain this, what we're lacking at times (hey, check the apache changelogs for my name recently... *sigh*) is the time. I'd be happy to see it in the debian-apache SVN repo, though, with a blanket policy for open non-NMU uploads from the Perl folk as well, just to spread the blame as thinly as possibly. ... Adam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The status of libapache2-mod-perl2
On Thu, 16 Aug 2007 06:58:02 +0200 Steinar H. Gunderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Aug 15, 2007 at 09:32:30PM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote: Of course, before any action, I'd like to hear Thom's or Andres' points of view. You probably want to hear my input too. :-) At Debconf5, I was more or less persuaded into taking the package (up to the level where I actually had the first maintainer upload ready). I did, however, set a condition that was sort of silly -- that Thom would sign my GPG key. Naturally, we all forgot about it, the key was never signed, I didn't go to DC6 and Thom didn't go to DC7. So, it all sort of faded away, and the package was kept in a sort of limbo where I sort of had the responsibility and sort of not. Not taking clearer action at the time, despite nagging from Thom, is something I'll have to take the blame for. Um, yeah, what he said. I have no interest in maintaining it any more; someone should probably take up the slack. However, at the time of writing I'm in the process of starting to work, so I really cannot take on any new responsibilities until I know how life is going to look like. Thus, I'm afraid I can't take over the package -- perhaps as co-maintainer if you need me (although I'm skeptical of co-maintenance in general), and of course as a user, but nothing else. /* Steinar */ -- Homepage: http://www.sesse.net/ -- Andres Salomon [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The status of libapache2-mod-perl2
* Adam Conrad ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : On Wed, Aug 15, 2007 at 09:32:30PM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote: - Should we hijack/adopt the package, or will its current maintainers stand up and get it back to life? - Is there somebody who wants to lead this? - Pkg-perl and/or Apache groups: Do you agree? :) - In any other case: Other takers? The debian-apache group has both the necssary perl, apache, and C skills required to maintain this, what we're lacking at times (hey, check the apache changelogs for my name recently... *sigh*) is the time. I'd be happy to see it in the debian-apache SVN repo, though, with a blanket policy for open non-NMU uploads from the Perl folk as well, just to spread the blame as thinly as possibly. Sounds emminently sane to me - I have no real interest in mod_perl, but will be happy to contribute apache knowledge as required. -Thom -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The status of libapache2-mod-perl2
* Adam Conrad ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote : The debian-apache group has both the necssary perl, apache, and C skills required to maintain this, what we're lacking at times (hey, check the apache changelogs for my name recently... *sigh*) is the time. I'd be happy to see it in the debian-apache SVN repo, though, with a blanket policy for open non-NMU uploads from the Perl folk as well, just to spread the blame as thinly as possibly. Sounds emminently sane to me - I have no real interest in mod_perl, but will be happy to contribute apache knowledge as required. Because of the general lack of time of the apache maintainers, I would recommend to either give interested people commit rights to the debian-apache repository, or to use a different repository for mod_perl. Lots of NMUs are not really efficient. FTR, I am not interested in mod_perl either. Cheers, Stefan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The status of libapache2-mod-perl2
Gunnar Wolf dijo [Wed, Aug 15, 2007 at 09:32:30PM -0500]: Hi all, (...) I'm sending this mail as an answer to #438168 - A user (understandably) fed up by what seems to be lack of attention to a package that is core to many people's work, libapache2-mod-perl2. I send this mail with some fear, of course, as I do not really want to adopt it - but... Well, the circumstances might be pushing for it ;-) Umh... Ok, it seems I was cornered and got to that awkward position where I have to do it - I'll adopt this package as part of the pkg-perl group's packages. Some people from the Apache group offered to adopt it allowing pkg-perl members commit access to the repository, but they are not active users of the package - And at least Martín Ferrari and myself, from the pkg-perl crowd, are. Perl guys: Cheer up. We have several new bugs under umbrella to work on! I'll jut inject the package now, and by tomorrow I expect to start working a bit on getting it up to speed. Greetings, -- Gunnar Wolf - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - (+52-55)5623-0154 / 1451-2244 PGP key 1024D/8BB527AF 2001-10-23 Fingerprint: 0C79 D2D1 2C4E 9CE4 5973 F800 D80E F35A 8BB5 27AF pgpyxdZvBrbjX.pgp Description: PGP signature
The status of libapache2-mod-perl2
Hi all, I'm sending this mail as an answer to #438168 - A user (understandably) fed up by what seems to be lack of attention to a package that is core to many people's work, libapache2-mod-perl2. I send this mail with some fear, of course, as I do not really want to adopt it - but... Well, the circumstances might be pushing for it ;-) Now, what's ModPerl2's status? - It is maintained by Thom May, with Andres Salomon listed as an uploader. - Thom's last upload for this package (1.999.23-1) is dated 8 May 2005 - Andres' last upload (2.0.2-2) is dated 12 Mar 2006. Just for the record, two uploads prior to this (2.0.1-4, 04 Oct 2005), he notes in the changelog this is The I'm-tired-of-maintaining-stuff-I-don't-use release - Since the beginning of 2006, the package has seen only four NMUs - Sesse, Luk, Aba and Vorlon Of course, before any action, I'd like to hear Thom's or Andres' points of view. Now, I'd be happy to adopt it, but I really doubt I'm up to the task. First of all, I suck big time at C. Second, I suck at time allocation, and my Debian work has been repeatedly hampered by this. My first suggestion is for the pkg-perl group to step up and take it as one of our beloved children^Wmodules... But I fear several of us will be in a position similar to mine, with a good knowledge of Perl, but a poor knowledge of C - And in this case, we _will_ need it. On the other hand, I'm also Cc:ing the Debian Apache Maintainers - But the opposite effect might hold: You are familiar with the Apache guts, but you might be unfamiliar with mod_perl2 itself So, - Should we hijack/adopt the package, or will its current maintainers stand up and get it back to life? - Is there somebody who wants to lead this? - Pkg-perl and/or Apache groups: Do you agree? :) - In any other case: Other takers? Greetings, -- Gunnar Wolf - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - (+52-55)5623-0154 / 1451-2244 PGP key 1024D/8BB527AF 2001-10-23 Fingerprint: 0C79 D2D1 2C4E 9CE4 5973 F800 D80E F35A 8BB5 27AF pgpg8sdBtcjGM.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: The status of libapache2-mod-perl2
On Wed, Aug 15, 2007 at 09:32:30PM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote: Of course, before any action, I'd like to hear Thom's or Andres' points of view. You probably want to hear my input too. :-) At Debconf5, I was more or less persuaded into taking the package (up to the level where I actually had the first maintainer upload ready). I did, however, set a condition that was sort of silly -- that Thom would sign my GPG key. Naturally, we all forgot about it, the key was never signed, I didn't go to DC6 and Thom didn't go to DC7. So, it all sort of faded away, and the package was kept in a sort of limbo where I sort of had the responsibility and sort of not. Not taking clearer action at the time, despite nagging from Thom, is something I'll have to take the blame for. However, at the time of writing I'm in the process of starting to work, so I really cannot take on any new responsibilities until I know how life is going to look like. Thus, I'm afraid I can't take over the package -- perhaps as co-maintainer if you need me (although I'm skeptical of co-maintenance in general), and of course as a user, but nothing else. /* Steinar */ -- Homepage: http://www.sesse.net/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: The status of libapache2-mod-perl2
On Wed, 15 Aug 2007, Gunnar Wolf wrote: - Should we hijack/adopt the package, or will its current maintainers stand up and get it back to life? I also found myself looking at this package recently too; whether it's under the perl group, debian-apache, or some other team, I'd be happy to assist. - Is there somebody who wants to lead this? Ideally not me. Don Armstrong -- Miracles had become relative common-places since the advent of entheogens; it now took very unusual circumstances to attract public attention to sightings of supernatural entities. The latest miracle had raised the ante on the supernatural: the Virgin Mary had manifested herself to two children, a dog, and a Public Telepresence Point. -- Bruce Sterling, _Holy Fire_ p228 http://www.donarmstrong.com http://rzlab.ucr.edu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
