Re: Two questions about installing Debian on a Thecus 2100 (-a-like)

2007-12-13 Thread John Winters

Martin Michlmayr wrote:

* John Winters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-12-13 16:43]:

http://people.debian.org/~joeyh/d-i/armel/images/daily/iop32x/netboot/n2100.bin
disc OK, but then partman exits part way through starting up.  It gets as 
far as 58% in its startup progress bar and just exits.

[snip]

Anyway, assuming you upgraded RedBoot before trying to install Debian,
you can use the instructions from
http://www.cyrius.com/debian/iop/n2100/telnet.html to load the
installer image of Debian stable (etch) of arm.


I did - or at least I upgraded the Thecus firmware to 2.1.05 which I 
believe does that job.


Thank you for your very complete replies.  I believe what I need to do 
now is:


1) Unpack the Thecus firmware (done that)
2) Interrupt redboot with telnet
3) Suck a couple of files over with tftp
4) Boot into the Thecus firmware
5) Do an upgrade again, but this time with the official installer image

I'm assuming I don't actually need to flash the Thecus firmware in again?

How does one actually tell the installer to switch into expert mode? 
There didn't seem to be an option with the el installer - although of 
course it did it once partman had failed.


Thanks again for your help.

John





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Re: Two questions about installing Debian on a Thecus 2100 (-a-like)

2007-12-13 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* John Winters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-12-13 16:43]:
>> http://people.debian.org/~joeyh/d-i/armel/images/daily/iop32x/netboot/n2100.bin
> disc OK, but then partman exits part way through starting up.  It gets as 
> far as 58% in its startup progress bar and just exits.

I assume you used the URL above to install, rather the official
image of Debian stable?  The image above is an unstable image from
July and given the recent changes in d-i I wouldn't be surprised it's
no longer working...

armel guys, can you please stop pimping your daily images to everyone.
John didn't actually ask for armel images, did he?

John: there are two ports of Debian for ARM: the arm port, which is a
well established and supported port, and for which images are
available of Debian stable (etch).  They are known to work.  Then
there's armel, the future of Linux on ARM, which is still in
development, and not advised for users unless they really need armel
(it offers better FP speed than the old arm port).

> Partition table: no
> /bin/partman: IN: QUIT
> parted_server: Read command: QUIT
> parted_server: Quitting

I'm not too fimilar with partman but can you send this log to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  Frans Pop made some major changes to
partman recently (i.e. in the last few days) so it's possible that
something broke. (Yes, I said before that the image you used is from
July but partman is being pulled in via the net from a mirror.)

> and the syslog file contains:
>
> Dec 13 16:39:58 kernel: program partmap is using a deprecated SCSI
> ioctl, please convert it to SG_IO

This is "normal" - it's not the cause of the problem.

Anyway, assuming you upgraded RedBoot before trying to install Debian,
you can use the instructions from
http://www.cyrius.com/debian/iop/n2100/telnet.html to load the
installer image of Debian stable (etch) of arm.

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Re: Two questions about installing Debian on a Thecus 2100 (-a-like)

2007-12-13 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* John Winters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-12-13 14:13]:
> As I understand it, you select expert mode (or set the message
> priority to low) and then give the name of the right kernel to
> install at the relevant point, but I can't find documented anywhere
> what the name of the right kernel is.  Can anyone tell me?

2.6.18-5-iop32x

> If you get it wrong at this point do you have a brick, or is there a
> recovery route?

If you get it wrong at this point, debian-installer will still be in
flash so you can start all over.

> I currently have access to the box by way of the ssh backdoor.  Am I
> right in thinking that once I've upgraded to the current Thecus
> firmware I'll lose this back door?  Is there any other way in then?

I'm not too familiar with the Thecus firmware, but I believe you're
right.  There should be a module available for SSH access, though.
Have you checked http://onbeat.dk/thecus/index.php/N2100_Resources

Anyway, why do care about this anyway?  You could just upgrade to the
latest firmware right before installing Debian, and Debian will remove
the original Thecus firmware from flash anyway, so it doesn't matter
whether it supports SSH or not. :)
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Re: packages with different build-depends on arm than armel

2007-12-13 Thread Riku Voipio
On Mon, Dec 10, 2007 at 12:34:14PM +0100, Loïc Minier wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 07, 2007, Joey Hess wrote:
> > gst-plugins-base0.10

>  This seems to be a bug in type-handling as "type-handling any linux-gnu
>  linux" used to list armel (as I can see in previous versions of the
>  control file), but doesn't list it anymore with 0.2.22.

Looking at current build-deps of gst-plugins-base0.10, I take it
requires a sourcefull upload and a binNMU won't be enough?

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Re: Two questions about installing Debian on a Thecus 2100 (-a-like)

2007-12-13 Thread John Winters

Colin Tuckley wrote:

John Winters wrote:

I've just sourced an Evesham re-badged Thecus 2100 and would like to
upgrade it to a full Debian installation.  I've previously done the same
with an NSLU2, but am interested in the potential extra speed of the
Thecus.


I did this recently using the new ARM EABI/arml port, I used the info at:

http://www.cyrius.com/debian/iop/n2100/install.html

and the Debian installer at:

http://people.debian.org/~joeyh/d-i/armel/images/daily/iop32x/netboot/n2100.bin

which points to the old gnuab repro but you get the chance to change that
during the install. So I used the miror at:

http://ftp.easynet.be/ftp/gnuab/debian


Thanks for the response.  I've taken my courage in both hands and 
started the process but I get stuck at the disk partitioning stage.  It 
detects the disc OK, but then partman exits part way through starting 
up.  It gets as far as 58% in its startup progress bar and just exits.


/var/log/partman contains:

parted_server: Closing infifo and outfifo
parted_server: main_loop: iteration 15
parted_server: Opening infifo
Device: yes
Model: ATA ST3500630AS
Path: /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc
Sector size: 512
Sectors: 976773168
Sectors/track: 63
Heads: 255
Cylinders: 60801
Partition table: no
/bin/partman: IN: QUIT
parted_server: Read command: QUIT
parted_server: Quitting

and the syslog file contains:

Dec 13 16:39:58 kernel: program partmap is using a deprecated SCSI 
ioctl, please convert it to SG_IO


Any idea why partman won't do its bit?

TIA,
John


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Re: Problem building libhdf4 on eabi/arml

2007-12-13 Thread Colin Tuckley
Wookey wrote:

> so you may have a 'needs itself to build' issue (as libhdf4g seems to
> come from the libhdf4 source package), which will need some
> poking about to work out what to do about.
> 
> (you could probably have guessed that from the error really :-) that
> 'df' was a giveaway :-)

Argh, yes you are right, I've been a bit distracted with other stuff this
morning.

I'll investigate a bit further

Colin

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Re: Problem building libhdf4 on eabi/arml

2007-12-13 Thread Wookey
On 2007-12-13 14:31 +, Colin Tuckley wrote:
> I'm trying to build libhdf4 for eabi/arml.
> 
> This looks like it can't find a lib called "df"
> 
> Does anybody know what this is/was and assuming it's something Fortran
> related what I should be using?

packages.debian.org has a very ueseful files search when you need to
find where a file is from:

http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=contents&keywords=libdf.a&mode=exactfilename&suite=unstable&arch=any
suggests that it comes from libhdf4g-dev

so you may have a 'needs itself to build' issue (as libhdf4g seems to
come from the libhdf4 source package), which will need some
poking about to work out what to do about.

(you could probably have guessed that from the error really :-) that
'df' was a giveaway :-)

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Re: Two questions about installing Debian on a Thecus 2100 (-a-like)

2007-12-13 Thread Colin Tuckley
John Winters wrote:
> I've just sourced an Evesham re-badged Thecus 2100 and would like to
> upgrade it to a full Debian installation.  I've previously done the same
> with an NSLU2, but am interested in the potential extra speed of the
> Thecus.

I did this recently using the new ARM EABI/arml port, I used the info at:

http://www.cyrius.com/debian/iop/n2100/install.html

and the Debian installer at:

http://people.debian.org/~joeyh/d-i/armel/images/daily/iop32x/netboot/n2100.bin

which points to the old gnuab repro but you get the chance to change that
during the install. So I used the miror at:

http://ftp.easynet.be/ftp/gnuab/debian

you should be able to use debian-ports.org now, it went pretty much the way
the instructions say.

Colin

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Problem building libhdf4 on eabi/arml

2007-12-13 Thread Colin Tuckley
I'm trying to build libhdf4 for eabi/arml.

The Build depends: line in debian/control is now (g77 changed to gfortran):

gfortran, sharutils, libjpeg62-dev, zlib1g-dev, bison, flex, groff,
autotools-dev

all of which are installed.

When building the source package it dies with the following:

gcc -ansi  -I/home/colin/libhdf4/libhdf4-4.1r4/hdf/src -o testhdf rig.o
sdstr.o blocks.o an.o anfile.o extelt.o file.o file1.o vers.o sdmms.o
sdnmms.o slab.o litend.o tvset.o comp.o bitio.o tree.o macros.o conv.o
nbit.o man.o mgr.o testhdf.o tbv.o tvsfpack.o chunks.o tvattr.o buffer.o
-L./../src -ldf -ljpeg -lz -lm
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -ldf
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[6]: *** [testhdf] Error 1

This looks like it can't find a lib called "df"

Does anybody know what this is/was and assuming it's something Fortran
related what I should be using?

Colin

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Two questions about installing Debian on a Thecus 2100 (-a-like)

2007-12-13 Thread John Winters
I've just sourced an Evesham re-badged Thecus 2100 and would like to 
upgrade it to a full Debian installation.  I've previously done the same 
with an NSLU2, but am interested in the potential extra speed of the Thecus.


Reading the lists it appears that the Debian installer is currently 
broken (4.0r1) but that it's possible to work around it.  However, I 
find the instructions for the work-around a little sketchy.


As I understand it, you select expert mode (or set the message priority 
to low) and then give the name of the right kernel to install at the 
relevant point, but I can't find documented anywhere what the name of 
the right kernel is.  Can anyone tell me?  If you get it wrong at this 
point do you have a brick, or is there a recovery route?


Second question - my Thecus-a-like currently has an older version of the 
Firmware and I've read the instructions for upgrading to the current 
Thecus 2100 firmware.  The installation instructions for Debian say to 
do this before starting the Debian installation, but...


I currently have access to the box by way of the ssh backdoor.  Am I 
right in thinking that once I've upgraded to the current Thecus firmware 
I'll lose this back door?  Is there any other way in then?


Thanks in advance,
John


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