Re: armel qualification for Wheezy
On Thu, 17 May 2012, Steve McIntyre wrote: On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 06:00:18AM +0100, Adam Barratt wrote: On Thu, 2012-05-17 at 00:59 +0100, peter green wrote: The statement that all but one armel buildd is at the same location disagrees with the debian machines database. [...] Metropolitan Area Network Darmstadt : arcadelt DG-i: argento They may still be physically located there, but: wanna-build= select username, max(last_seen) as last_seen from armel.users group by username having username like '%arcadelt' or username like '%argento' order by 2; username|last_seen ---+ buildd_armel-arcadelt | 2011-04-17 21:14:11.291825 buildd_armel-argento | 2011-10-23 00:12:31.850723 (2 rows) iirc they're only still hosted in case e.g. the ARM hosting falls over for a prolonged period, but I'm happy to be corrected on that. AFAIK it's something like that, yes. Again, we're expecting to add more v7 machines to the cluster in York soon-ish to help with this. We (DSA) have been told by the buildd people to kill argento and arcadelt. We just haven't gotten around to doing it yet. So effectively armel does not have buildd location redundancy. cf. RT#3490, RT#3694, RT#3699. Cheers, -- | .''`. ** Debian ** Peter Palfrader | : :' : The universal http://www.palfrader.org/ | `. `' Operating System | `-http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120519082812.gp1...@anguilla.noreply.org
Re: armel qualification for Wheezy
Hi As everyone keeps claiming there is no armel buildd location redundancy, I don't have much motivation to keep ancina running. It's ignored anyway. Cheers Luk On 05/19/2012 10:28 AM, Peter Palfrader wrote: On Thu, 17 May 2012, Steve McIntyre wrote: On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 06:00:18AM +0100, Adam Barratt wrote: On Thu, 2012-05-17 at 00:59 +0100, peter green wrote: The statement that all but one armel buildd is at the same location disagrees with the debian machines database. [...] Metropolitan Area Network Darmstadt : arcadelt DG-i: argento They may still be physically located there, but: wanna-build= select username, max(last_seen) as last_seen from armel.users group by username having username like '%arcadelt' or username like '%argento' order by 2; username|last_seen ---+ buildd_armel-arcadelt | 2011-04-17 21:14:11.291825 buildd_armel-argento | 2011-10-23 00:12:31.850723 (2 rows) iirc they're only still hosted in case e.g. the ARM hosting falls over for a prolonged period, but I'm happy to be corrected on that. AFAIK it's something like that, yes. Again, we're expecting to add more v7 machines to the cluster in York soon-ish to help with this. We (DSA) have been told by the buildd people to kill argento and arcadelt. We just haven't gotten around to doing it yet. So effectively armel does not have buildd location redundancy. cf. RT#3490, RT#3694, RT#3699. Cheers, -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4fb7605f.7040...@debian.org
Re: armel qualification for Wheezy
On Sat, 19 May 2012, Luk Claes wrote: As everyone keeps claiming there is no armel buildd location redundancy, I don't have much motivation to keep ancina running. It's ignored anyway. It's been down for a week or longer now. I sent you email, you didn't answer. We have no out of band management, no serial console, no remote power. And even if it worked, it alone would not be able to keep up. -- | .''`. ** Debian ** Peter Palfrader | : :' : The universal http://www.palfrader.org/ | `. `' Operating System | `-http://www.debian.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120519090130.gt1...@anguilla.noreply.org
Re: armel qualification for Wheezy
* Peter Palfrader (wea...@debian.org) [120519 11:18]: On Sat, 19 May 2012, Luk Claes wrote: As everyone keeps claiming there is no armel buildd location redundancy, I don't have much motivation to keep ancina running. It's ignored anyway. It's been down for a week or longer now. I sent you email, you didn't answer. We have no out of band management, no serial console, no remote power. And even if it worked, it alone would not be able to keep up. Looking at stats now, it seems that armel doesn't behave better than mipsel currently. If however both arches have a buildd down, that would fit. Andi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120519092828.gd2...@mails.so.argh.org
Re: armel qualification for Wheezy
Hello Luk, 2012/5/19 Luk Claes l...@debian.org: As everyone keeps claiming there is no armel buildd location redundancy, I don't have much motivation to keep ancina running. It's ignored anyway. I sent you an email about it as well, ancina is doing d-i armel builds and currently armel is lagging a bit behind, we (armel buildd maintainers) would like to get the machine back to its builds unless there is some major reason for not doing that. Regarding redundancy, I think its something armel porters could work on, and Steve has said many times, he is planning to add armel buildds to the York cluster as soon as time allows. And if the worst happens, I am pretty sure Debian project is able to acquire ARM buildds easily as well as Debian developers interested on ARM might have enough machines to keep up with the builds. Regards, -- Héctor Orón -.. . -... .. .- -. -.. . ...- . .-.. --- .--. . .-. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAODfWeESmoRFV8bjHUd1-1_dZ=g0g1xmjsgxvaeqcv-kgca...@mail.gmail.com
Re: armel qualification for Wheezy
On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 10:57:03AM +0200, Luk Claes wrote: As everyone keeps claiming there is no armel buildd location redundancy, I don't have much motivation to keep ancina running. It's ignored anyway. buildd location redundancy involves having enough capacity to deal with security updates and other urgent updates. One armel buildd alone is a tad on the fringe of keeping up with that. (One fast s390 box for example, can basically keep up for that use case, even if it's not able to keep up with two architectures, s390 and s390x, both having unstable.) Kind regards Philipp Kern signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: armel qualification for Wheezy
Hi, On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 10:57:03AM +0200, Luk Claes wrote: As everyone keeps claiming there is no armel buildd location redundancy, I don't have much motivation to keep ancina running. It's ignored anyway. Would you mind packaging ancina and posting it to another hosting location? IIRC Mark Hymers was interested and he already hosts a bunch of armhf buildd's. Riku -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120519150024.ga12...@afflict.kos.to
