Re: potential new build hardware, arndaleboard samsung exynos 5,?2GB?ram
On Sat, Dec 01, 2012 at 06:24:32PM +, Phil Endecott wrote: Phil Endecott spam_from_debian_arm at chezphil.org writes: peter green plugwash at p10link.net writes: It looks like a new samsung based devboard has come out (though it's not scheduled to actually ship until november). Ignore it until it actually exists. Maybe it does now exist, and is worth investigating :-) Have now one as well, so it clearly does exist :) One thing that might surprise people used to beagleboard/pandaboard style boards is that this one is actually quite large. Booting and running the board using the quick setup instructions from: https://wiki.linaro.org/Boards/Arndale/Setup/EnterpriseUbuntuServer Work just fine. The kernel is quite fresh (3.7-rc2 based) and is about 4000 lines / 40 changed away from mainline. The only major stumbling block to debian support is that the exynos kernel isn't single zimage ready (yet). Also, support for 3D acceleration and video codec acceleration is android-only and propiertary. I agree with Peter that it is an interesting board. The USB ethernet is unfortunate, but looking on the bright side that might be better-supported than some unknown SoC ethernet thing. USB ethernet is ASIX based and seems to work fine (once you set up mac address). eSATA didn't work for me reliably, but sata code is still said to be work in progress and my HD isn't in the list of (currently) supported drivers of the above wikipage. Riku -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121204092247.ga22...@afflict.kos.to
Re: potential new build hardware, arndaleboard samsung exynos 5,?2GB?ram
Riku Voipio riku.voi...@iki.fi writes: On Sat, Dec 01, 2012 at 06:24:32PM +, Phil Endecott wrote: Phil Endecott spam_from_debian_arm at chezphil.org writes: peter green plugwash at p10link.net writes: It looks like a new samsung based devboard has come out (though it's not scheduled to actually ship until november). Ignore it until it actually exists. Maybe it does now exist, and is worth investigating :-) Have now one as well, so it clearly does exist :) One thing that might surprise people used to beagleboard/pandaboard style boards is that this one is actually quite large. Booting and running the board using the quick setup instructions from: https://wiki.linaro.org/Boards/Arndale/Setup/EnterpriseUbuntuServer Work just fine. The kernel is quite fresh (3.7-rc2 based) and is about 4000 lines / 40 changed away from mainline. The only major stumbling block to debian support is that the exynos kernel isn't single zimage ready (yet). Also, support for 3D acceleration and video codec acceleration is android-only and propiertary. I've to disagree here. While having single image support would be nice, it's not supported by debian kernel (yet, it's on todo-list) so it's not a big blocker. Moreover, we're still far from having the number of kernels for armel. Nevertheless, the main blocker is needing patches which are not mainline. I agree with Peter that it is an interesting board. The USB ethernet is unfortunate, but looking on the bright side that might be better-supported than some unknown SoC ethernet thing. USB ethernet is ASIX based and seems to work fine (once you set up mac address). eSATA didn't work for me reliably, but sata code is still said to be work in progress and my HD isn't in the list of (currently) supported drivers of the above wikipage. what do you mean ? if one wants to use sata, one has to use one of the HD listed ? that sounds weird/wrong and rather annoying in case you need to replace a failing drive. Arnaud -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87txs2kt64@lebrac.rtp-net.org
Re: potential new build hardware, arndaleboard samsung exynos 5,?2GB?ram
Riku Voipio wrote: eSATA didn't work for me reliably, but sata code is still said to be work in progress Uh-oh, that doesn't sound good. Presence of SATA is important and needs to work well. Is there something specific about eSATA, rather than regular internal SATA? Regards, Phil. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1354626196...@dmwebmail.dmwebmail.chezphil.org
Re: potential new build hardware, arndaleboard samsung exynos 5,?2GB?ram
Phil Endecott wrote (ao): Riku Voipio wrote: eSATA didn't work for me reliably, but sata code is still said to be work in progress Uh-oh, that doesn't sound good. Presence of SATA is important and needs to work well. Is there something specific about eSATA, rather than regular internal SATA? I'm pretty sure it is SATA, not eSATA. I see some exynos5 specific patches pass by on the lkml, not all support is in mainline yet afaik. Sander -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121204141703.GA23767@panda
Re: potential new build hardware, arndaleboard samsung exynos 5,?2GB?ram
On Tue, Dec 04, 2012 at 11:28:35AM +0100, Arnaud Patard wrote: USB ethernet is ASIX based and seems to work fine (once you set up mac address). eSATA didn't work for me reliably, but sata code is still said to be work in progress and my HD isn't in the list of (currently) supported drivers of the above wikipage. what do you mean ? if one wants to use sata, one has to use one of the HD listed ? that sounds weird/wrong and rather annoying in case you need to replace a failing drive. What I believe, is that sata driver simply isn't complete yet. Eventually it should be fixed to implement all required features. At least since the controller behind the platform code is AHCI, it would be surprising if it was a hw issue rather than a driver issue. Riku -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121204143630.ga23...@afflict.kos.to
Re: potential new build hardware, arndaleboard samsung exynos 5, 2GB ram
Phil Endecott spam_from_debian_arm at chezphil.org writes: peter green plugwash at p10link.net writes: It looks like a new samsung based devboard has come out (though it's not scheduled to actually ship until november). Ignore it until it actually exists. Maybe it does now exist, and is worth investigating :-) The web page will let me click a buy now button, but it then says Unexpected Item In The Bagging Area in a Javascript popup [*]. Maybe someone who has better tolerance of crap websites than me could please work out what the actual story is? I agree with Peter that it is an interesting board. The USB ethernet is unfortunate, but looking on the bright side that might be better-supported than some unknown SoC ethernet thing. Cheers, Phil. [*] OK, it actually say You Are Not Allowed To Buy This. But it has the same kick-the-computer effect on me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/loom.20121201t191813-...@post.gmane.org
Re: potential new build hardware, arndaleboard samsung exynos 5,?2GB?ram
Phil Endecott wrote (ao): Phil Endecott spam_from_debian_arm at chezphil.org writes: peter green plugwash at p10link.net writes: It looks like a new samsung based devboard has come out (though it's not scheduled to actually ship until november). Ignore it until it actually exists. Maybe it does now exist, and is worth investigating :-) It does exist, I've actually received mine five days ago (The Netherlands). Haven't had time yet to get beyond unboxing. The web page will let me click a buy now button, but it then says Unexpected Item In The Bagging Area in a Javascript popup [*]. Maybe someone who has better tolerance of crap websites than me could please work out what the actual story is? http://howchip.com/ you mean? I had no issues three weeks ago with Firefox on Debian (amd64). Insane shippingcosts though. [*] OK, it actually say You Are Not Allowed To Buy This. But it has the same kick-the-computer effect on me. Sander -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20121201184243.GB31718@panda
Re: potential new build hardware, arndaleboard samsung exynos 5, 2GB ram
peter green plugwash at p10link.net writes: It looks like a new samsung based devboard has come out (though it's not scheduled to actually ship until november). Ignore it until it actually exists. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/loom.20121029t133551-...@post.gmane.org
potential new build hardware, arndaleboard samsung exynos 5, 2GB ram
It looks like a new samsung based devboard has come out (though it's not scheduled to actually ship until november). Afaict the CPU and memory are the same as the new samsung chromebook but unlike the samsung chromebook it has SATA and ethernet. http://howchip.com/shop/item.php?it_id=AND5250A . The ethernet is sadly USB based :( but as far as I can tell* the SATA appears to be native :). It also has a serial console port (not sure if the chromebook has that or not). http://www.howchip.com/shop/item.php?it_id=AND5250A * The manual for the processor mentions SATA and the schematic for the baseboard just shows the SATA wired straight through to the CPU module so i'm pretty sure. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-arm-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/508c954f.2000...@p10link.net
