Processed: Re: blends-tasks must not be priority:important (was Re: Bug#846002: Lowering severity)
Processing control commands: > clone -1 -2 Bug #846002 [tech-ctte] blends-tasks must not be priority:important Bug 846002 cloned as bug 847132 > reassign -2 src:blends Bug #847132 [tech-ctte] blends-tasks must not be priority:important Bug reassigned from package 'tech-ctte' to 'src:blends'. Ignoring request to alter found versions of bug #847132 to the same values previously set Ignoring request to alter fixed versions of bug #847132 to the same values previously set > block -2 by -1 Bug #847132 [src:blends] blends-tasks must not be priority:important 847132 was not blocked by any bugs. 847132 was not blocking any bugs. Added blocking bug(s) of 847132: 846002 -- 846002: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=846002 847132: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=847132 Debian Bug Tracking System Contact ow...@bugs.debian.org with problems
Bug#846002: blends-tasks must not be priority:important (was Re: Bug#846002: Lowering severity)
control: reassign -1 tech-ctte control: retitle -1 blends-tasks must not be priority:important thanks On Mon, Dec 05, 2016 at 09:43:18AM -0600, Don Armstrong wrote: > if either of you disagree (or anyone else on the CTTE > disagrees) and still want the CTTE to resolve this (slowly), feel free > to reassign it back. Noted, thanks. And yes, I still think it's really really wrong to have blends-tasks have "priority: important" which makes it getting installed by each and every debootstrap run by default. https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-archive.html#s-priorities (And I'm really in no good position/mood/whatever to argue this any further. To me this issue is very very clear and I'm sometimes not good argueing issues which I think are very very clear.) Thus, the reassign. -- cheers, Holger signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Processed: blends-dev must not be "priority: important" - was Re: Bug#846002: Lowering severity
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: > reassign 846002 tech-ctte Bug #846002 [blends-tasks] blends-tasks must be priority:standard and not make a mess out of tasksel menu Bug reassigned from package 'blends-tasks' to 'tech-ctte'. No longer marked as found in versions blends/0.6.94. Ignoring request to alter fixed versions of bug #846002 to the same values previously set > thanks Stopping processing here. Please contact me if you need assistance. -- 846002: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=846002 Debian Bug Tracking System Contact ow...@bugs.debian.org with problems
Bug#846002: blends-dev must not be "priority: important" - was Re: Bug#846002: Lowering severity
reassign 846002 tech-ctte thanks On Mon, Dec 05, 2016 at 09:58:03AM +0100, Ole Streicher wrote: > Control: Severity -1 normal src:blends 0.6.93 uploaded on 09 Apr 2016 introduced a new binary package, blends-dev, with "priority: important", causing it to be installed on *all* systems by debootstrap by default. https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-archive.html#s-priorities is quite clear what important packages are, and IMO blends-dev clearly doesnt qualify as "noone expects it." IMO blends-tasks rather should be of priority: optional. Dear tech-ctte, please clarify. I don't have the time nor energy for bts-ping-pong, but Ole said he is going to close this bug soon (in addition to setting the severity to "normal") and closing this bug without changing the priority would just be wrong, IMO. Thanks. (And sorry for my lack of patience here.) (I'm also not sure who has the final say on definining priorities, the ftpmasters maybe? Feel free to swiftly re-assign there.) -- cheers, Holger signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Bug#846002: Lowering severity
On Mon, Dec 05, 2016 at 09:58:03AM +0100, Ole Streicher wrote: > Control: Severity -1 normal > > Since no objections against my proposal were expressed for a week, I am > lowering the severity. > > Since there is no update of the bug report with more recent experiences, > I will to close it as of version 0.6.94 within a few days. I'm sorry that I failed to respond yet. Still, this doesnt make a policy violation a non-policy violation. (Priority: important is *wrong* for this package.) You are forcing the installation of blends-tasks on every Debian system. This is *not ok*. I will try to reply ASAP, but… I might fail and just reassign to tech-ctte. (I also find it very hard to find time for this as you failed to understand the problem with the current implementation from the beginning, so I'm doubtful whether trying again (for like the 4th or 5th time will change anything.) And regarding the blends task selection itself, it has been discussed in d-i to just blacklist blends-tasks or to remove the feature which allows to drop tasks into tasksel like this. I'm really not the only one thinking that this blends selection menu in the default installation is a no-go as it is. -- cheers, Holger signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Processed: Lowering severity
Processing control commands: > Severity -1 normal Bug #846002 [blends-tasks] blends-tasks must be priority:standard and not make a mess out of tasksel menu Severity set to 'normal' from 'serious' -- 846002: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=846002 Debian Bug Tracking System Contact ow...@bugs.debian.org with problems
Bug#846002: Lowering severity
Control: Severity -1 normal Since no objections against my proposal were expressed for a week, I am lowering the severity. Since there is no update of the bug report with more recent experiences, I will to close it as of version 0.6.94 within a few days. Best regards Ole
