Re: Cross-install howto

2002-07-02 Thread Chris Tillman

Here's a draft, let's see what y'all think. 
Is it true that a Unix user could also run debootstrap?

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   This section explains how to install Debian GNU/Linux from an existing
   Unix or Linux system. This has been requested by users switching to 
   the best Linux system from Redhat, Mandrake, or SUSE.

   Once you've got the new Debian system configured to your
   preference, you can migrate your existing user data (if any) to it,
   and keep on rolling. This is therefore a zero downtime
   GNU/Linux install. It's also a clever way for dealing with hardware
   that otherwise doesn't play friendly with various boot or
   installation media.

Getting Started

   With your current *nix partitioning tools, repartition the hard
   drive as needed, creating at least one filesystem plus swap. You
   need at least 150MB of space available for a console only install,
   or at least 300MB if you plan to install X.

# To create filesystems on your partitions 
# (creates ext3, for ext2 omit -j):
$ mke2fs -j /dev/partition # e.g.:  /dev/hda3

# Initialize and activate swap:
$ mkswap /dev/partition   # e.g.:  /dev/hda2
$ sync; sync; sync
$ swapon /dev/partition   # e.g.:  /dev/hda2

   Mount one partition as /mnt/debinst (the installation point, to be
   the root (/) filesystem on your new system). The mount point name is
   strictly arbitrary, it is referenced later below.

$ mkdir /mnt/debinst
$ mount /dev/partition /mnt/debinst   # e.g.:  /dev/hda3

Installing debootstrap

   The tool which the Debian installer uses, and which is recognized
   as the official way to install a Debian base system, is
   debootstrap. It uses wget, but otherwise depends only on
   glibc. Install wget if it isn't already on your current system,
   then download and install debootstrap. 

   If you have an rpm-based system, you can use alien to convert the 
   .deb into .rpm, or download an rpmized version at 

http://people.debian.org/~blade/install/debootstrap

   Or, you can use the following procedure to install it manually. The
   debootstrap binary is located in the Debian archive (be sure to
   select the proper file for your architecture). Make a work folder,
   download debootstrap, and extract the binary files from the
   deb. For example,

$ mkdir work
$ cd work
$ wget 
http://http.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/d/debootstrap/debootstrap_0.1.17_i386.deb 
$ ar -xf debootstrap_0.1.17_i386.deb
$ cd /
# You will need to have root privileges to do this
$ zcat  /full-path-to-work/work/data.tar.gz | tar xv

Running debootstrap (Network-connected)

   Debootstrap can download the needed files directly from the archive
   when you run it. Substitute any Debian archive mirror for
   http.us.debian.org in the command example below, preferably a
   mirror close to you network-wise. Mirrors are listed at

   http://www.debian.org/misc/README-mirrors

   If you have a woody version Debian CD mounted at /cdrom, you could 
   substitute a file URL instead of the http URL: 

   file:/cdrom/debian/

   Substitute one of the following for ARCH in the debootstrap command:
   
   alpha, arm, hppa, i386, ia64, m68k, mips, mipsel, powerpc, s390, sparc
   
$ /usr/sbin/debootstrap --arch ARCH woody \
/mnt/debinst http://http.us.debian.org/debian

Running debootstrap (Using basedebs.tar)

   Debootstrap can use the basedebs.tar file, if you'd like to
   download it ahead of time. The basedebs.tar file is generated only
   every once in a while, so you'll get the latest version of the base
   system by pointing debootstrap directly to a Debian archive as
   shown above. Basedebs.tar provides an option for non-network
   connected computers.

   The basedebs.tar file is found in the base-images-current directory
   of the Debian archive for your architecture, e.g.:

   
http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/woody/main/disks-i386/base-images-current/basedebs.tar
   
$ /usr/sbin/debootstrap --arch ARCH --unpack-tarball \
/path-to-downloaded/basedebs.tar woody /mnt/debinst 

Configuring The Base System

   You've now got a real Debian system, though rather lean, on disk.
   Chroot into it:

$ chroot . /bin/bash

   You can mount the proc filesystem multiple times and to arbitrary
   locations, though /proc is customary. It will make certain other tasks
   easier, so do this now:

$ mount -t proc proc /proc

   OK. You've got a few things to configure that would ordinarily be
   handled by the Debian installer:
 * keyboard
 * language
 * time zone
 * partition mounting
 * networking
 * apt sources

   You need to create /etc/fstab. While you don't need to mount
   additional filesystems, this is a good time to do so. You'll
   probably want to activate swap and the proc filesystem.

   A sample /etc/fstab -- modify to suit:

# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# file system   mount point typeoptionsdump 

cvs commit to debian-installer/tools/cdebconf/man by tausq

2002-07-02 Thread Debian Boot CVS Master

Repository: debian-installer/tools/cdebconf/man
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time:   Mon Jul  1 23:52:15 PDT 2002
Log Message:
  Directory /cvs/debian-boot/debian-installer/tools/cdebconf/man added to the 
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cvs commit to debian-installer/tools/cdebconf by tausq

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Repository: debian-installer/tools/cdebconf
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Log Message:
  Some more commits for cdebconf update; fixes textdb module, as well as
  the text/slang/ncurses/bogl frontends
  
  added man pages for some of the executables
  
  

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cvs commit to debian-installer/tools/cdebconf/doc by tausq

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Repository: debian-installer/tools/cdebconf/doc
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time:   Mon Jul  1 23:53:46 PDT 2002
Log Message:
  Some more commits for cdebconf update; fixes textdb module, as well as
  the text/slang/ncurses/bogl frontends
  
  added man pages for some of the executables
  
  

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cvs commit to debian-installer/tools/cdebconf/man by tausq

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Repository: debian-installer/tools/cdebconf/man
who:tausq
time:   Mon Jul  1 23:53:46 PDT 2002
Log Message:
  Some more commits for cdebconf update; fixes textdb module, as well as
  the text/slang/ncurses/bogl frontends
  
  added man pages for some of the executables
  
  

Files:
added:  Makefile.in debconf.pod dpkg-preconfigure.pod dpkg-reconfigure.pod


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cvs commit to debian-installer/tools/cdebconf/src/modules/db/textdb by tausq

2002-07-02 Thread Debian Boot CVS Master

Repository: debian-installer/tools/cdebconf/src/modules/db/textdb
who:tausq
time:   Mon Jul  1 23:53:47 PDT 2002
Log Message:
  Some more commits for cdebconf update; fixes textdb module, as well as
  the text/slang/ncurses/bogl frontends
  
  added man pages for some of the executables
  
  

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changed:textdb.c textdb.h


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cvs commit to debian-installer/tools/cdebconf/src/modules/frontend/bogl by tausq

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Repository: debian-installer/tools/cdebconf/src/modules/frontend/bogl
who:tausq
time:   Mon Jul  1 23:53:47 PDT 2002
Log Message:
  Some more commits for cdebconf update; fixes textdb module, as well as
  the text/slang/ncurses/bogl frontends
  
  added man pages for some of the executables
  
  

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Repository: debian-installer/tools/cdebconf/src
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time:   Mon Jul  1 23:53:46 PDT 2002
Log Message:
  Some more commits for cdebconf update; fixes textdb module, as well as
  the text/slang/ncurses/bogl frontends
  
  added man pages for some of the executables
  
  

Files:
changed:Makefile.in cdebconf.conf database.h

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cvs commit to debian-installer/tools/cdebconf/src/modules by tausq

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Repository: debian-installer/tools/cdebconf/src/modules
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time:   Mon Jul  1 23:53:46 PDT 2002
Log Message:
  Some more commits for cdebconf update; fixes textdb module, as well as
  the text/slang/ncurses/bogl frontends
  
  added man pages for some of the executables
  
  

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cvs commit to debian-installer/tools/cdebconf/src/modules/frontend/slang by tausq

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Repository: debian-installer/tools/cdebconf/src/modules/frontend/slang
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time:   Mon Jul  1 23:53:47 PDT 2002
Log Message:
  Some more commits for cdebconf update; fixes textdb module, as well as
  the text/slang/ncurses/bogl frontends
  
  added man pages for some of the executables
  
  

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  Some more commits for cdebconf update; fixes textdb module, as well as
  the text/slang/ncurses/bogl frontends
  
  added man pages for some of the executables
  
  

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Repository: debian-installer/tools/cdebconf/src/modules/frontend/ncurses
who:tausq
time:   Mon Jul  1 23:53:47 PDT 2002
Log Message:
  Some more commits for cdebconf update; fixes textdb module, as well as
  the text/slang/ncurses/bogl frontends
  
  added man pages for some of the executables
  
  

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cvs commit to debian-installer/tools/cdebconf/debian by tausq

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Repository: debian-installer/tools/cdebconf/debian
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time:   Mon Jul  1 23:56:28 PDT 2002
Log Message:
  remove this obsolete file
  

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PDC20268 support in boot disks

2002-07-02 Thread Ben Marsh

I have been downloading iso images with the hope of doing a net install 
of debian unstable (hopefully) bypassing stable and testing to save on 
downloaded megabytes.  However all the isos seem to use the same boot 
kernels and none of them seem to have the driver for the Promise 100Tx 
PCI IDE controller (PDC20268 chipset) in them.  My hard drive is to big 
for the motherboards bios so I have it attached to this card.  I have no 
floppy drives.

Is there anyway around this problem?  Is the driver not included to save 
space?

I have redhat on there at the moment (the boot cd found the controller) 
but I miss apt-get :-(

Ben Marsh


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Re: PDC20268 support in boot disks

2002-07-02 Thread Chris Tillman

On Tue, Jul 02, 2002 at 09:24:08PM +1000, Ben Marsh wrote:
 I have been downloading iso images with the hope of doing a net install 
 of debian unstable (hopefully) bypassing stable and testing to save on 
 downloaded megabytes.  However all the isos seem to use the same boot 
 kernels and none of them seem to have the driver for the Promise 100Tx 
 PCI IDE controller (PDC20268 chipset) in them.  My hard drive is to big 
 for the motherboards bios so I have it attached to this card.  I have no 
 floppy drives.
 
 Is there anyway around this problem?  Is the driver not included to save 
 space?
 
 I have redhat on there at the moment (the boot cd found the controller) 
 but I miss apt-get :-(

I just posted a draft of one way around, since you have RH installed,
maybe you could be the guinea pig?

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Re: PDC20268 support in boot disks

2002-07-02 Thread Eduard Bloch

#include hallo.h
Ben Marsh wrote on Tue Jul 02, 2002 um 09:24:08PM:
 I have been downloading iso images with the hope of doing a net install 
 of debian unstable (hopefully) bypassing stable and testing to save on 
 downloaded megabytes.  However all the isos seem to use the same boot 
 kernels and none of them seem to have the driver for the Promise 100Tx 
 PCI IDE controller (PDC20268 chipset) in them.  My hard drive is to big 

Wrong. Use the bf2.4 netinst images
(http://people.debian.org/~blade/boot-floppies) or choose bf2.4 in any
multiboot-image. Hint: RTF boot-screens.

Gruss/Regards,
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Re: Cross-install howto

2002-07-02 Thread Eduard Bloch

#include hallo.h
Chris Tillman wrote on Mon Jul 01, 2002 um 11:46:37PM:

Mount any additional filesystems.
 # If this mount point is referenced in your /etc/fstab:
 $ mount /path # e.g.:  mount /usr

Or use mount -a to mount all filesystems already specified in /etc/fstab.

 # Keyboard.
 $ dpkg-reconfigure console-data
 
 # I'm not sure about language (FIXME: locales?)

To configure your locale settings, ie. for using another language, run
# dpkg-reconfigure locales

NOTE: Before using locales with charsets other than ASCII/latin1, please
consult the appropriate localisation Howto.

To configure networking, edit the following files. nano is the user-
friendly simple editor installed by debootstrap.
 
 $ nano /etc/network/interfaces 

Better point to /usr/bin/editor, this is guaranteed.

Then install your choice using its package name.
 
 $ apt-get install kernel-image-2.X.X-arch-etc
 
To make your Debian GNU/Linux system bootable, set up your boot
loader to load the installed kernel and your new root partition.

NOTE: If you one or more multiple network cards and you rely on the working
network, you should enter the names of driver modules into the
/etc/modules file in the correct order (so if you have multiple NICs,
the right card gets the right interface name).

Note to Chris: don't forget the boot loader!

Gruss/Regards,
Eduard.
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Re: PDC20268 support in boot disks

2002-07-02 Thread Ben Marsh

On Wednesday, July 3, 2002, at 01:04 AM, Eduard Bloch wrote:

 #include hallo.h
 Ben Marsh wrote on Tue Jul 02, 2002 um 09:24:08PM:
 I have been downloading iso images with the hope of doing a net install
 of debian unstable (hopefully) bypassing stable and testing to save on
 downloaded megabytes.  However all the isos seem to use the same boot
 kernels and none of them seem to have the driver for the Promise 100Tx
 PCI IDE controller (PDC20268 chipset) in them.  My hard drive is to big

 Wrong. Use the bf2.4 netinst images
 (http://people.debian.org/~blade/boot-floppies) or choose bf2.4 in any
 multiboot-image. Hint: RTF boot-screens.

 Gruss/Regards,
 Eduard.
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Point taken.  The BF2.4 kernel is the one for me.

Nevermind.  I thought I was a good little boy.  I thought I tried _all_ 
the boot options on _all_ the iso's that I could find on the net I even 
mounted a few on redhat to see whether there was a module instead.  I 
did lots of dmesg | grep hd and dmesg | more.

oh hum,

Thanks,

Ben Marsh


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Re: [patch] utilities/dbootstrap/po/Makefile gawk bug

2002-07-02 Thread Junichi Uekawa

In Mon, 1 Jul 2002 15:24:19 +0200 (CEST) [EMAIL PROTECTED] cum veritate 
scripsit :

One line of advise:

Please use diff -u. It's much easier to read.

 With the attached patch below, I would have spent only 2 seconds.



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cvs commit to boot-floppies/debian by dancer

2002-07-02 Thread Debian Boot CVS Master

Repository: boot-floppies/debian
who:dancer
time:   Tue Jul  2 09:38:06 PDT 2002
Log Message:
  add error checking in makefile, not yet complete

Files:
changed:changelog


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cvs commit to boot-floppies/utilities/dbootstrap/po by dancer

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Repository: boot-floppies/utilities/dbootstrap/po
who:dancer
time:   Tue Jul  2 09:38:07 PDT 2002
Log Message:
  add error checking in makefile, not yet complete

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Configuring APT

2002-07-02 Thread santmyer




Hi,

I installed a minimal Debian linux and booted 
it.
It seems to boot OK and I can use what has 
been
installed. I think I set up PPP 
correctly. When I
use the pon command, I hear the usual dialup 
via
my modem.

Now I want to download some packages from the
internet. When I run apt-get I get the error 
message
Failed to fetch
http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/main/binary-i386/Packages
could not resolve http.us.debian.org.

I can't access this site. Do you know what might be 
wrong?
Please help me if you can.

Thanks,

Joe



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Re: Configuring APT

2002-07-02 Thread Andre Luis Lopes

On Tue, Jul 02, 2002 at 02:41:01PM -0700, santmyer wrote:

[snip]

 Now I want to download some packages from the
 internet.  When I run apt-get I get the error message
 Failed to fetch
 http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/stable/main/binary-i386/Packages
 could not resolve http.us.debian.org.

Looks like you have a DNS problem somewhere. Check you /etc/resolv.conf
file and see if it points to a valid DNS server.

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Re: cvs commit to boot-floppies/documentation/pt by gleydson

2002-07-02 Thread Andre Luis Lopes

On Sun, Jun 30, 2002 at 07:22:03PM -0700, Debian Boot CVS Master wrote:
 Repository: boot-floppies/documentation/pt
 who:gleydson
 time:   Sun Jun 30 19:22:02 PDT 2002
 Log Message:
   - Added some lacking text after a line-by-line revision (by eye)
   - added the doc-check feature on all docs
   - fixed some missing s390, m68k tags
   - some text cosmetic
   - fixed the broken build on s390
   - updated all docs to match the currently english version
   - added/removed/moved some text between chapts.
   - some other small thinks that I don't remember were done
 (I'm exausted after two days of dedication for this work :-)
   
   
 
 Files:
 changed:administrivia.sgml appendix.sgml boot-new.sgml hardware.sgml 
inst-methods.sgml kernel.sgml partitioning.sgml post-install.sgml rescue-boot.sgml 
tech-info.sgml welcome.sgml

Thanks a lot. Now I can stop trying to figure out how to bring
everything up-to-date again using the eye-by-eye voodo.

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Sucessfull Woody Installation Report

2002-07-02 Thread Andre Luis Lopes

Hi,

I´m sending this messages just to let you know that I have just upgraded
a running Debian GNU/Linux 2.2r6 system to Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 Woody
without any problem. The dist-upgrade was perfect.

The machine was an ancient Pentium 166 being used as proxy server (using
Squid), mail server (both SMTP and POP, using Postfix and GNUPop3d) and
internal DNS (bind) to a litle network with 30 users.

I did everything remotely via ssh from some kilometers of distance
without any problem. After pointing to Woody sources in sources.list I
updated apt, dpkg and perl packages first and then did an apt-get
dist-upgrade after doing a dselect update.

Detail : everything was done while users were using the server for web
and mail access (e.g. zero dowtime).

Thank you all for such a great piece of software :-)

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Re: cvs commit to boot-floppies/documentation/pt by gleydson

2002-07-02 Thread Gleydson Mazioli da Silva

Yes, these changes were needed to be made eye-by-eye, that's a tiresome work, but 
it would be done some day :)

Also, these changes need to be done in urgency fashion to the aproximate Woody release 
retaking my main work as document translator and to fix some critical bugs that broken 
the 
compilation and the document context that could compromisse the document quality in 
your 
release. :)

Regards,

Andre Luis Lopes [EMAIL PROTECTED] escreveu em Tue, 2 Jul 2002 21:36:13 -0300:

 On Sun, Jun 30, 2002 at 07:22:03PM -0700, Debian Boot CVS Master wrote:
  Repository: boot-floppies/documentation/pt
  who:gleydson
  time:   Sun Jun 30 19:22:02 PDT 2002
  Log Message:
- Added some lacking text after a line-by-line revision (by eye)
- added the doc-check feature on all docs
- fixed some missing s390, m68k tags
- some text cosmetic
- fixed the broken build on s390
- updated all docs to match the currently english version
- added/removed/moved some text between chapts.
- some other small thinks that I don't remember were done
  (I'm exausted after two days of dedication for this work :-)


  
  Files:
  changed:administrivia.sgml appendix.sgml boot-new.sgml hardware.sgml 
inst-methods.sgml kernel.sgml partitioning.sgml post-install.sgml rescue-boot.sgml 
tech-info.sgml welcome.sgml
 
 Thanks a lot. Now I can stop trying to figure out how to bring
 everything up-to-date again using the eye-by-eye voodo.
 
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Re: Cross-install howto

2002-07-02 Thread Chris Tillman

On Tue, Jul 02, 2002 at 05:15:13PM +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote:
 #include hallo.h
 Chris Tillman wrote on Mon Jul 01, 2002 um 11:46:37PM:
 
 Mount any additional filesystems.
  # If this mount point is referenced in your /etc/fstab:
  $ mount /path # e.g.:  mount /usr
 
 Or use mount -a to mount all filesystems already specified in /etc/fstab.
 
  # Keyboard.
  $ dpkg-reconfigure console-data
  
  # I'm not sure about language (FIXME: locales?)
 
 To configure your locale settings, ie. for using another language, run
 # dpkg-reconfigure locales
 
 NOTE: Before using locales with charsets other than ASCII/latin1, please
 consult the appropriate localisation Howto.
 
 To configure networking, edit the following files. nano is the user-
 friendly simple editor installed by debootstrap.
  
  $ nano /etc/network/interfaces 
 
 Better point to /usr/bin/editor, this is guaranteed.
 
 Then install your choice using its package name.
  
  $ apt-get install kernel-image-2.X.X-arch-etc
  
 To make your Debian GNU/Linux system bootable, set up your boot
 loader to load the installed kernel and your new root partition.
 
 NOTE: If you one or more multiple network cards and you rely on the working
 network, you should enter the names of driver modules into the
 /etc/modules file in the correct order (so if you have multiple NICs,
 the right card gets the right interface name).
 
 Note to Chris: don't forget the boot loader!

Thanks for the comments. Yes, I guess the installer really does do the boot 
loader part. But maybe I can just send them to external pages for how
to set up lilo, silo, yaboot, etc. or just provide short examples for 
each arch like on your page for lilo.

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cdebconf plans

2002-07-02 Thread Randolph Chung

I've been getting some inquiries about what the plans are for cdebconf
moving forward. I thought I'd write down a few things I have in mind,
with the hope that other people can help contribute :-)

The goal here is that we can continue to use cdebconf as a small(er)
(size-wise) implementation of the debconf protocol for debian-installer;
at the same time, cdebconf will be a full-implementation of the debconf
spec that will allow you to use cdebconf as a complete replacement of
the perl implementation of debconf if you so desire.

Towards these objectives, I have commited some changes over the last few
days to address some of the main differences that remain between debconf
and cdebconf. Since the last significant changes were committed to 
cdebconf several months ago, Joey has made some significant enhancements
to debconf and cdebconf was lagging behind. The main changes I have made
after talking to Joey at OLS was to separate out the concept of a
template database vs a config database (cdebconf calls the latter a
question database). These used to be a single database entity in 
cdebconf. Just as in perl-debconf, there is a configuration file that 
allows you to choose where the template/question databases are stored,
and which driver is used to store the template/config data.

The second major change I am working on is to introduce the idea of
instances in cdebconf. By this I mean that (as in perl-debconf) you
can have multiple databases (or frontends, for that matter) defined for
use, and these can be stacked together to form a database chain. For
example, in the default perl-debconf config, the configuration database
is split into a password database which is stored in a read-only file,
whereas the rest of the data is globally readable. To do this in
cdebconf, you would instantiate two instances with the rfc822db driver
(originally written by Tollef Fog Heen) which defines the database file 
locations, etc. Then you can define a third instance using a stack 
module (to be written) that links them together. If this is not clear, 
you may wish to consult either the perl-debconf documentation on how 
the Stack module works.

The third area I plan to work on is to improve the documentation for
cdebconf, both in terms of internal code documentation and documentation
of the public APIs that module developers can use to develop new
frontend/database modules. Some of this work was started by Moshe Zadka
already. What I am considering to do is to use doxygen to have in-code
comments that can be processed to give an easily-accessible API
documentation.

Last but not least, Tollef has done some i18nization work on cdebconf.
Right now the mechanism is not very clean; we are working out ways to
improve i18n support in cdebconf.

In parallel, Joey and I will be working on trying to clarify some
items that have become a de-facto standard in how debconf works based on
Joey's implementation, but are not specified formally in the official
specification.

It is my hope that cdebconf will continue to support the small size
footprint required for d-i, but at the same time be suitable as a
full-fledged implementation of the debconf-spec that can be used on
typical Debian installations. Most of the enhancements will happen in 
loadable modules (e.g. ldap backends, etc). At the same time I would 
like to make sure whatever we do is compatible with Joey's debconf 
implementation.

So, in short, volunteers are sought to help write documentation,
loadable frontend and database modules, and of course help test
cdebconf. One of the things Joey and I discussed was the need to come up
with a testsuite that can be used to verify compliance with the
debconf-spec. This will be an interesting and independent project
someone can work on (hint hint) :-)

Comments, criticisms, patches, feature suggestions, etc are always
appreciated. Especially patches! 

randolph


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