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Bug#184835: marked as done (anna: Should sort the list of available udebs)
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Source: anna
Binary: anna
Architecture: source i386
Version: 0.026
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Maintainer: Debian Install System Team [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Changed-By: Martin Sjogren [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Description:
anna - Load installer modules (udeb)
Closes: 179000 184835
Changes:
anna (0.026) unstable; urgency=low
.
* Petter Reinholdtsen
- Updated nn.po thanks to Gaute Hvoslef Kvalnes.
- Replace ${shlibs:Depends} in depends to explicit list; libc-udeb,
cdebconf-udeb.
* Martin Sjögren
- Detect kernel module udebs and compare to the version of the running
kernel. Matching udebs are automatically installed, non-matches are
forgotten and won't appear in the selection list. (Closes: #179000)
- Sort packages in the ask list by name. (Closes: #184835)
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Bug#182422: anna: packages without menu-item should be full installed
tis 2003-02-25 klockan 20.19 skrev Martin Sjögren: tis 2003-02-25 klockan 13.30 skrev Matt Kraai: On Tue, Feb 25, 2003 at 12:23:20PM +0100, Thorsten Sauter wrote: normal packages will be full installed after the menu-item was selected. In this case the maintainer scripts are executed. But packages without a menu-item will never be installed this way. They will not installed until a dependency force this. This will break the usage of these packages from the console (tty2), or packages with can't be included in the Depend field (eg kernel modules) Well, any package that a menu item *depends* (or recursively depends) on will be configured, actually, so I guess we should make sure dependencies are correct? Is there a particular broken case you have in mind? So, anna should detect, if there is no menu-item assigned and then install the package. Won't this break the di-utils-fake-* packages? Actually, this is possible to avoid, detecting that they are parallel to existing menu items. main-menu does this and anna can do it too. Does anybody know of a non-menu item udeb that has an interactive postinst script? They should probably be redesigned or turned into menu items like choose-mirror. :) /Martin -- Martin Sjögren [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG key: http://www.mdstud.chalmers.se/~md9ms/gpg.html let hello = hello : hello in putStr (unlines hello) signature.asc Description: Detta =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=E4r?= en digitalt signeradmeddelandedel
Bug#179000: marked as done (shouldn't prompt for modules belonging to wrong kernel versions)
Your message dated Fri, 04 Apr 2003 02:47:10 -0500 with message-id [EMAIL PROTECTED] and subject line Bug#179000: fixed in anna 0.026 has caused the attached Bug report to be marked as done. This means that you claim that the problem has been dealt with. If this is not the case it is now your responsibility to reopen the Bug report if necessary, and/or fix the problem forthwith. (NB: If you are a system administrator and have no idea what I am talking about this indicates a serious mail system misconfiguration somewhere. Please contact me immediately.) Debian bug tracking system administrator (administrator, Debian Bugs database) -- Received: (at submit) by bugs.debian.org; 29 Jan 2003 23:12:49 + From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Jan 29 17:12:48 2003 Return-path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from rhols66.adsl.netsonic.fi (there.afraid.org) [194.29.198.66] by master.debian.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 1 (Debian)) id 18e1Nu-0006Wh-00; Wed, 29 Jan 2003 17:12:47 -0600 Received: from era by there.afraid.org with local (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18e1Mb-0003jd-00 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Thu, 30 Jan 2003 01:11:25 +0200 To: Debian Bug Tracking System [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: anna: list of alternatives longer than screen X-Debbugs-CC: era eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: era eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender: era eriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 30 Jan 2003 01:11:25 +0200 Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=SPAM_PHRASE_00_01,SUBJECT_IS_LIST version=2.41 X-Spam-Level: * Package: anna Version: +N/A; reported 2003-01-30 Severity: normal I'm only just acquainting myself with the sarge installer CD which was announced in this week's DWN. Sorry if I'm reporting a bug against the wrong package; I am under the impression that anna is responsible for the actual prompts I see (and the bugs reported against it/her seem to confirm this) but I only just started to try to understand the new installer and I apologize if I have jumped to incorrect conclusions. I burned the larger variant (83 meg image downloaded this morning from http://gluck.debian.org/cdimage/testing/netinst/i386/sarge-i386-netinst.iso which has a size of 87064576 bytes and is dated Jan 25 04:48) and managed to boot it (which was tricky because I am using an old laptop with only *either* a floppy or a CD drive -- but I digress :-) When I get to Load installer modules (fetch from CD), I am presented with a listing of 40 entries. This is impossible to view because the screen is only 24 lines and each entry takes up at least one line. There seem to be duplicates which only differ in their minor version number, could they be collapsed to one entry somehow perhaps? (Also it would be nice if these were adjacent in the listing so it's easier to spot the duplicates, if you can't collapse them into one entry, that is.) The lack of a more(1) or similar makes it challenging to look at what's on the system -- I have been doing sed -n 1,24p etc on files that look interesting but if I happen to look at a binary file, chances are it will shift the console's character set into graphics mode and then I will have to reboot in order to proceed (or drive blind, which is of course also an alternative). I guess I'll file a wishlist bug about this. Thanks for the installer, it looks rather promising already. /* era */ -- System Information Debian Release: 3.0 Kernel Version: Linux there.afraid.org 2.2.20 #1 SMP Thu Nov 7 16:15:53 EET 2002 i586 unknown --- Received: (at 179000-close) by bugs.debian.org; 4 Apr 2003 07:53:15 + From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fri Apr 04 01:53:14 2003 Return-path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: from auric.debian.org [206.246.226.45] (mail) by master.debian.org with esmtp (Exim 3.12 1 (Debian)) id 191M0g-0006YP-00; Fri, 04 Apr 2003 01:53:14 -0600 Received: from katie by auric.debian.org with local (Exim 3.35 1 (Debian)) id 191Luo-0003So-00; Fri, 04 Apr 2003 02:47:10 -0500 From: Martin Sjogren [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Katie: $Revision: 1.33 $ Subject: Bug#179000: fixed in anna 0.026 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender: Archive Administrator [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2003 02:47:10 -0500 Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of anna, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive: anna_0.026.dsc to pool/main/a/anna/anna_0.026.dsc anna_0.026.tar.gz to pool/main/a/anna/anna_0.026.tar.gz anna_0.026_i386.udeb to pool/main/a/anna/anna_0.026_i386.udeb A summary of the changes between this version and the previous one is attached. Thank you for reporting the bug, which will now be closed. If you have further comments please address them to [EMAIL PROTECTED], and the maintainer will reopen the bug report if appropriate. Debian
Re: cvs commit to debian-installer/tools/netcfg/debian by sjogren
On Thu, Apr 03, 2003 at 12:23:59PM -0700, Debian Boot CVS Master wrote: Repository: debian-installer/tools/netcfg/debian who:sjogren time: Thu Apr 3 12:23:59 MST 2003 Log Message: change the debconf_ calls to my_debconf_, swap return 0/return 1 in _check_dhcp, add default.script for udhcpc These cdebconf macros are not used (and pretty useless), they should be removed when switching to libdebconfclient. Denis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: cvs commit to debian-installer/tools/netcfg/debian by sjogren
fre 2003-04-04 klockan 11.20 skrev Denis Barbier: On Thu, Apr 03, 2003 at 12:23:59PM -0700, Debian Boot CVS Master wrote: Repository: debian-installer/tools/netcfg/debian who:sjogren time: Thu Apr 3 12:23:59 MST 2003 Log Message: change the debconf_ calls to my_debconf_, swap return 0/return 1 in _check_dhcp, add default.script for udhcpc These cdebconf macros are not used (and pretty useless), they should be removed when switching to libdebconfclient. I don't think they're useless, I just haven't switched my udebs to using them yet. This change in netcfg was on the iproute branch and was made to mirror the situation on the main trunk. /M -- Martin Sjögren [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG key: http://www.mdstud.chalmers.se/~md9ms/gpg.html let hello = hello : hello in putStr (unlines hello) signature.asc Description: Detta =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=E4r?= en digitalt signeradmeddelandedel
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Re: net image full
tor 2003-04-03 klockan 14.51 skrev Bastian Blank:
#!/bin/sh
# udhcpc script using iproute by Erik Andersen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[snip]
I committed a modified script to the BRANCH-iproute branch, which seems
to work. Here are the changes I did to build/pkg-lists to make it work:
Index: base
===
RCS file: /cvs/debian-boot/debian-installer/build/pkg-lists/base,v
retrieving revision 1.5
diff -u -r1.5 base
--- base15 Mar 2003 09:24:34 - 1.5
+++ base4 Apr 2003 15:33:02 -
@@ -5,8 +5,9 @@
main-menu
cdebconf-udeb
udpkg
-busybox-udeb
-dash-udeb
+#busybox-udeb
+busybox-cvs-udeb
+#dash-udeb
# The kernel is just unpacked to copy the source. It is not included
# in the initrd file.
kernel-image-${kernel:Version}-udeb
Index: net/common
===
RCS file: /cvs/debian-boot/debian-installer/build/pkg-lists/net/common,v
retrieving revision 1.8
diff -u -r1.8 common
--- net/common 17 Mar 2003 20:35:21 - 1.8
+++ net/common 4 Apr 2003 15:33:02 -
@@ -8,6 +8,7 @@
# modules (eg ppp, plip, etc).
# floppy-retriever
netcfg-static
-netcfg-dhcp
-pump-udeb
+netcfg-dynamic
+#netcfg-dhcp
+#pump-udeb
modutils-basic
From the top of my head, that's all I did. I'd appreciate if someone
else tested it.
/Martin
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user documentation for d-i
Hi, I plan to export over the boot-floppies/documentation and import it into the debian-installer/documentation tree, to start the user-documentation task. (Removing all boot-floppies-only stuff with FIXME). Any objections, or better ideas? - Alastair -- Alastair McKinstry [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG Key fingerprint = 9E64 E714 8E08 81F9 F3DC 1020 FA8E 3790 9051 38F4 He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself. - --Thomas Paine -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Chaos and Damnation!
fre 2003-04-04 klockan 18.27 skrev Anthony Towns: Presumably top of the list is getting the netinst image down to size again [0], [0] Although you might like to just declare the netinst image something that you have to use PXELinux to boot -- and thus the size doesn't matter much. Having internationalised CD images and netinst images that are limited to 2.88MB, and an uninternationalised floppy image that's limited to 1.44MB could be workable. Well, the netinst _CDs_ don't use the net floppy image, but a lot of our testers do use the floppy. To get the netinst CDs working decently there's a whole other slew of things that need doing, but that I've started working on. /Martin -- Martin Sjögren [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG key: http://www.mdstud.chalmers.se/~md9ms/gpg.html let hello = hello : hello in putStr (unlines hello) signature.asc Description: Detta =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=E4r?= en digitalt signeradmeddelandedel
Re: Making netinst CDs Not Suck
tor 2003-03-27 klockan 20.26 skrev Raphael Hertzog: Le Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 11:05:44AM +, Alastair McKinstry écrivait: I don't know how to fix 2, but one idea I had for fixing 1 was to have overrides in the netinst CD building, so ethdetect and friends would be normally optional, but when put on a netinst CD, they'd be overridden to standard. buxy, however, didn't really like this and suggested a file on the CD-ROM with a list of packages to be installed automatically. Why didn't buxy like it? Because overrides are not supposed to change for each CD. An override file is distribued in /project/indices/ on the FTP server and it's used for all the CD set (normal, netinst, business card). Furthermore it's not meant to change depending on the architecture (like you suggest for the keymaps). OK. So we'd better find something more general that resolve this problem instead of hacking something on top of standard package priority. I suggested that we put one more file in cdrom/.disk/ that would tell which scenario is best adapted for this CD (netinstall, CDROM install, ...). But the question is how to make that interact with d-i. Given the infrastructure it's not easy. I said that we might need to extend the concept of retrievers so that they are also able to retrieve some information like those scenario hints ... The cvs version of anna now supports calling the retriever with a 'config' argument, and tries to load a list of udebs to automatically install from /var/cache/anna/autoinst. Now we need: - decide a /cdrom/.disk/ file. anna_autoinst? - have cdrom-retriever copy or symlink this file (piece of cake) - add stuff to debian-cd for creating reasonable files for the netinst CDs. - file bugs on ftp.d.o to have the priority of the udebs changed to optional so they aren't pulled in all the time. Sounds reasonable? What did I forget? /Martin -- Martin Sjögren [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPG key: http://www.mdstud.chalmers.se/~md9ms/gpg.html let hello = hello : hello in putStr (unlines hello) signature.asc Description: Detta =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=E4r?= en digitalt signeradmeddelandedel
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Bug#187654: boot-floppies: network/diskless installation is broken
Package: boot-floppies Version: 20030404 Severity: normal (Referring to the woody/intel boot floppies as in http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/woody/main/disks-i386/3.0.23-2002-05-21/) The various tftpboot.img files in the different flavour directories are just copies of the corresponding linux.bin files. These are kernel images, which (according to the corresponding kernel-config files and my experiments) contain only a few NIC drivers compiled in; the rest, including drivers for NICs found in modern PCs are compiled only as modules. There is no separate root filesystem (root.bin) for TFTP installs, so one has to use the generic one, which (perhaps because of size constraints) does not contain these drivers as modules either. Therefore one cannot initialize the network card during installation without first loading the driver module from a non-network media -- that is, a true network (really diskless) out-of-the-box installation of Debian is not possible, altough the installation document suggests otherwise. What should be done is either one of the following: a/ Create a separate kernel for TFTP installations, which would contain all the NIC drivers compiled in, not as modules. b/ Create a separate root filesystem for TFTP installations, which would contain the NIC drivers as modules. -- System Information Debian Release: 3.0 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: user documentation for d-i
On Fri, Apr 04, 2003 at 03:11:55PM +0100, Alastair McKinstry wrote: Hi, I plan to export over the boot-floppies/documentation and import it into the debian-installer/documentation tree, to start the user-documentation task. (Removing all boot-floppies-only stuff with FIXME). Yes, I think very much of the old manual is specific to boot-floppies, and a rewrite should really focus on the GUI interface first, with links out-of-the-main-path for those doing text or ncurses installs. That's because I think the great majority of people who use the manual will be using the GUI interface, as long as it's available to them. They'll be using CD-ROMs, not floppies. I think we should mainstream the manual for the majority user, and leave the technical details -- and instructions for the console-based installs and floppy-based installs -- to appendices, subsidiary documents, etc. So, with the state the installer is in now, it's my belief that the manual would have the wrong focus if started now, or if based on the boot-floppies source. We'd be shoe-horning in the GUI stuff rather than the other way around. The details are there in b-f, we can copy whatever we need whenever we need it. Am I way off base? /me dons asbestos -- http://Www.TruthAboutWar.org Chris Tillman - Linux Rox - -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: user documentation for d-i
I plan to export over the boot-floppies/documentation and import it into the debian-installer/documentation tree, to start the user-documentation task. Any objections, or better ideas? I'd like it so that boot-floppies/documentation is marked that this documentation is deprecated. It's very difficult to track what is deprecated at what point, so better do that sooner. regards, junichi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
partitioner_0.01_i386.changes ACCEPTED
Accepted: partitioner_0.01.dsc to pool/main/p/partitioner/partitioner_0.01.dsc partitioner_0.01.tar.gz to pool/main/p/partitioner/partitioner_0.01.tar.gz partitioner_0.01_i386.udeb to pool/main/p/partitioner/partitioner_0.01_i386.udeb Announcing to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you for your contribution to Debian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: kernel-image-2.4.20-udeb: please include e100 and e1000 nic drivers
tags 181350 pending quit On Sun, Mar 30, 2003 at 04:18:00AM -0600, Chris Cheney wrote: On current x86 machines the most common nics I have seen are the following: e100 - usually found on older Intel based Motherboards e1000 - usually found on newer Intel based Motherboards rtl8139 - Cheap alternative on many Motherboards (ALi/nVidia* use this) sis900- usually found on SiS based Motherboards via-rhine - usually found on Via based Motherboards They will be included in the next release. -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://www.debian.org/ ) Email: Herbert Xu ~{PmVHI~} [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home Page: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/ PGP Key: http://gondor.apana.org.au/~herbert/pubkey.txt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Chaos and Damnation!
On Fri, Apr 04, 2003 at 07:24:53PM +0200, Martin Sj?gren wrote: Well, the netinst _CDs_ don't use the net floppy image, Don't the netinst CDs just use the CD images? As far as d-i's concerned, they're as good as the full regular sized CD set, no? but a lot of our testers do use the floppy. Sure. Again there seem to be three ways of doing things: * Boot and install from a CD, or other large media * Boot via PXElinux (ie, netboot), and install via http/NFS/etc * Boot from floppies, then use CD/net/whatever The first two can have 1.44MB images, if necessary, the latter's likely to be fairly unusual, so doesn't have to be completely internationalised if necessary. Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/ I don't speak for anyone save myself. GPG signed mail preferred. ``Dear Anthony Towns: [...] Congratulations -- you are now certified as a Red Hat Certified Engineer!'' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Making netinst CDs Not Suck
On Fri, Apr 04, 2003 at 09:24:15PM +0200, Martin Sj?gren wrote: tor 2003-03-27 klockan 20.26 skrev Raphael Hertzog: Le Thu, Mar 27, 2003 at 11:05:44AM +, Alastair McKinstry ?crivait: I don't know how to fix 2, but one idea I had for fixing 1 was to have overrides in the netinst CD building, so ethdetect and friends would be normally optional, but when put on a netinst CD, they'd be overridden to standard. buxy, however, didn't really like this and suggested a file on the CD-ROM with a list of packages to be installed automatically. Why didn't buxy like it? Because overrides are not supposed to change for each CD. For what it's worth, this is very similar to one aspect of Bdale's flavours idea. Basically, the thought there is that Debian should just have its regular overrides, but a particular flavours will change the priorities of a particular set of packages. What we were looking at there, in the end, was having an extra set of flavour override files that you could select amongst, that would limit the number of packages you viewed in dselect, and raise certain packages to standard (from optional) or optional (from extra - in the case where if you're using a particular flavour, you know you'll need a particular obscure package), and so on. For a complete CD set, you'd want some UI to select your flavour; for specialised CDs, you'd want to have a default flavour preselected. Thinking along those lines, probably with flavours like install from CD, and ask about using the network too, and install purely from the network, might be worthwhile. not meant to change depending on the architecture (like you suggest for the keymaps). Also, we already need to be able to have arch-specific overrides for things like gcc-2.96 on ia64 for woody -- it ought to be standard on ia64 since gcc on ia64 depends on it, but shouldn't be standard anywhere else. The plan is to use the extra overrides file for this, but apt-ftparchive doesn't support it yet. FWIW, etc. Cheers, aj -- Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://azure.humbug.org.au/~aj/ I don't speak for anyone save myself. GPG signed mail preferred. ``Dear Anthony Towns: [...] Congratulations -- you are now certified as a Red Hat Certified Engineer!'' pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Chaos and Damnation!
Hi guys, We're going to be making a preview release of sarge sometime fairly soon, probably by the end of the month. This will be a snapshot of testing at some particular time, with CDs and net install images and so forth. It'll be promoted to real live users, and we'll be soliciting, collecting and collating real live feedback from them. The thought of the comments you're probably going to get should probably be somewhat scary at best. The aim is to make the move from research and development and prototyping, to getting d-i to be a real, supported, usable program now, rather than later. Basically, if we're ever going to make a release with d-i, then we need to stop worrying about underlying architecture, and start making what we've got work. If we release with an utterly plain, boring, even ugly text frontend, that's fine - releasing with something that won't install Debian, or that crashes half the time you use it, or that is needlessly confusing and obscure isn't. Of course, pretty and intuitive are good too. Since Tollef Fog Heen seems to be busy, I've asked Martin Sjogren and Petter Reinholdtsen to make up a list of the major things that need doing to d-i to make it more usable. Presumably top of the list is getting the netinst image down to size again [0], but I suspect I don't have much chance of getting Get d-i lead developers to change their names to things I can spell on there. Oh well. Basically, please keep doing what you've been doing, but try to keep an eye on things that a user will find annoying, and fix it sooner, rather than leaving it 'til later. Cheers, aj [0] Although you might like to just declare the netinst image something that you have to use PXELinux to boot -- and thus the size doesn't matter much. Having internationalised CD images and netinst images that are limited to 2.88MB, and an uninternationalised floppy image that's limited to 1.44MB could be workable. -- Anthony Towns [EMAIL PROTECTED] Debian Release Manager pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
