Re: Bug#260763: [powerpc] Problems with logical volume setup during installation

2005-01-07 Thread Helge Kreutzmann
Hello,
On Thu, Jan 06, 2005 at 10:32:57PM -0800, Shyamal Prasad wrote:
 I was using d-i daily build for powerpc (Jan 4, 2005) to install on an
 Apple Dual G5 (PowerMac7,3).
 
 I find that the LVM menu items in the installer do not work in a
 manner very similar to what is described in this bug report (though
 this report is for a x86 machine). 
 
 Basically I cannot create physical volumes (using expert- too) via the
 menus, and the LV menus then clearly do not work. It seems that the
 options described in the latest installation guide (6.3.2.2, to use a
 partition as a PV for LVM) just do not show up!

When I was installing my ibook last year, lvm did not work from the
menue, because (as I was told) partman does not yet have support for
it. So if you feel confident in programming, I guess support for this
hin partman is more than welcome. I don't know if there has been any
work on this since then, though.

On the other hand, I was able to use the shell, create the volume
group and the logical volumes. Back in the installer I could then
format, mount and install onto them; also a later installer run onto a
second partition detected the lvm as well.

Greetings

 Helge

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Re: Desktop task broken on !(i386/powerpc)

2005-01-07 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 12:58:04AM +0100, Frans Pop wrote:
 On Thursday 06 January 2005 20:12, Sven Luther wrote:
  They chose one, install it, don't like it, install the other. The new
  installer is easy to use, so it should be no problem :)
 
 flame_invite_mode=on
 I vote for KDE.
 flame_invite_mode=off

Well, since it seems to have been recently broken on 80% of our arches, i
don't think that would be a sane choice, but then it should (hopefully) be
fixed now as new-KDE enters testing.

Friendly,

Sven Luther


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Re: Bug#260763: [powerpc] Problems with logical volume setup during installation

2005-01-07 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 09:08:37AM +0100, Helge Kreutzmann wrote:
 Hello,
 On Thu, Jan 06, 2005 at 10:32:57PM -0800, Shyamal Prasad wrote:
  I was using d-i daily build for powerpc (Jan 4, 2005) to install on an
  Apple Dual G5 (PowerMac7,3).
  
  I find that the LVM menu items in the installer do not work in a
  manner very similar to what is described in this bug report (though
  this report is for a x86 machine). 
  
  Basically I cannot create physical volumes (using expert- too) via the
  menus, and the LV menus then clearly do not work. It seems that the
  options described in the latest installation guide (6.3.2.2, to use a
  partition as a PV for LVM) just do not show up!
 
 When I was installing my ibook last year, lvm did not work from the
 menue, because (as I was told) partman does not yet have support for
 it. So if you feel confident in programming, I guess support for this
 hin partman is more than welcome. I don't know if there has been any
 work on this since then, though.

No, lvm could be added to partman in no time, but Colin Watson voted against
this, and rightly so, since he claimed that we should not use a quick hack,
but come to a consensus on the way of doing this with both the d-i team and
the lvm-config tools (also upstream probably), for future portability issue.

Nobody did really find the time to push this, and thus there is no lvm support
on powermac (altough there should be no problem on prep and ibm chrp hardware,
and i have solution for pegasos too).

 On the other hand, I was able to use the shell, create the volume
 group and the logical volumes. Back in the installer I could then
 format, mount and install onto them; also a later installer run onto a
 second partition detected the lvm as well.

Ok. The main problem is that there is no LVM flag for mac partition tables, i
wonder how usefull that is though. Parted is a bit shaky on this, as i believe
it should not really be a partition flag, but a partition type.

Friendly,

Sven Luther


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Re: Desktop task broken on !(i386/powerpc)

2005-01-07 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Sven Luther]
 Do you really think that anyone installing debian will be baffled
 when asked to choose between the gnome or KDE desktop ? Do you
 seriously believe that ?

Yes, I seriously believe that.  I'm involved in the debian-edu
subproject, and we try to make Debian available for all pupils and
students during education.  Several of the teachers responsible for
setting up the computer network at their local school will be
seriously baffled when asked to choose between gnome and kde.

 I bet those people will probably be more confused by the various
 server tasks.

Absolutely.  Which is why I try to encurrage redusing the amount of
questions during first time install, and hide the complexity and
flexibility from common users view, to reduce the cognitive strain
on the first time debian users.  Us experts will find the options
anyway.

 And you think it is easier for them to discover the KDE desktop once
 they have GDM running ? What do you imagine our current disk
 requirements are ?

I do not believe these users _care_ if they get the KDE or gnome
desktop.  I have no idea what you mean by our current disk
requirements.


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Re: Bug#260763: [powerpc] Problems with logical volume setup during installation

2005-01-07 Thread Helge Kreutzmann
Hello,
On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 10:55:09AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
 No, lvm could be added to partman in no time, but Colin Watson voted against
 this, and rightly so, since he claimed that we should not use a quick hack,
 but come to a consensus on the way of doing this with both the d-i team and
 the lvm-config tools (also upstream probably), for future portability issue.

Well, I was told differently by a Debian Developer on Linuxtag, who
explicitly asked me to look if I could add it (and test it then). My
brother (who also owns an ibook) had a look and told me it was not a
simple addition, but we did not push this further. 

 Nobody did really find the time to push this, and thus there is no lvm support
 on powermac (altough there should be no problem on prep and ibm chrp hardware,
 and i have solution for pegasos too).

Well, lvm works nicly. The only trick is to set it up on the command
line during the install (i.e., leave the gui for that). There are some
minor issues in some tools (#281925 and #287670), but they can be
easily worked around during operation. (I have not tried to reduce the
size of a LV, though).

 Ok. The main problem is that there is no LVM flag for mac partition tables, i
 wonder how usefull that is though. Parted is a bit shaky on this, as i believe
 it should not really be a partition flag, but a partition type.

Neither there is for alpha. I asked the LVM guys back then, and they
told me, that the partition type really does not matter, and we've
installed lvm since then on several alphas, all using BSD disk labels. 

I don't know the details of partitions on ppc, but using my alpha
experience I also chose an arbitary partition type (sorry, don't
know offhand which).

So in summary: if it can be added easily, IMHO it should, as lvm
definitly eases system management. 

Greetings

Helge
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Re: Bug#260763: [powerpc] Problems with logical volume setup during installation

2005-01-07 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 11:00:48AM +0100, Helge Kreutzmann wrote:
 Hello,
 On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 10:55:09AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
  No, lvm could be added to partman in no time, but Colin Watson voted against
  this, and rightly so, since he claimed that we should not use a quick hack,
  but come to a consensus on the way of doing this with both the d-i team and
  the lvm-config tools (also upstream probably), for future portability issue.
 
 Well, I was told differently by a Debian Developer on Linuxtag, who

Who was it ? 

 explicitly asked me to look if I could add it (and test it then). My
 brother (who also owns an ibook) had a look and told me it was not a
 simple addition, but we did not push this further. 

Sure it is, i am the parted maintainer, and i know what i speak about on
this. It is not implemented, because of the future compatibility concerns of
upstream-lvm chosing a different approach. The fix for the amiga partition
table was trivial, and i have no problem doing lvm installs on pegasos now.

  Nobody did really find the time to push this, and thus there is no lvm 
  support
  on powermac (altough there should be no problem on prep and ibm chrp 
  hardware,
  and i have solution for pegasos too).
 
 Well, lvm works nicly. The only trick is to set it up on the command
 line during the install (i.e., leave the gui for that). There are some
 minor issues in some tools (#281925 and #287670), but they can be
 easily worked around during operation. (I have not tried to reduce the
 size of a LV, though).

Ah, didn't try any of those too, just created the LVM partitions. I don't care
strongly enough to pursue this though, so you are welcome to take this on you
shoulder and become de facto LVM-on-powerpc maintainer. I will code the parted
part of it once a consensus is reached about this with upstream. Please CC me
(or debian-powerpc) on any such discussion though

  Ok. The main problem is that there is no LVM flag for mac partition tables, 
  i
  wonder how usefull that is though. Parted is a bit shaky on this, as i 
  believe
  it should not really be a partition flag, but a partition type.
 
 Neither there is for alpha. I asked the LVM guys back then, and they
 told me, that the partition type really does not matter, and we've
 installed lvm since then on several alphas, all using BSD disk labels. 

Ok, so we should will a bug against partman-lvm in order to get that fixed, i
am all in favor of this approach indeed.

 I don't know the details of partitions on ppc, but using my alpha

Well, powermacs use mac partition tables, prep and IBM chrp use plain mbr's,
and pegasos uses amiga rdb's.

 experience I also chose an arbitary partition type (sorry, don't
 know offhand which).

on amiga, i used a LVM partition flag, but in retrospect, the 'LVM\0' and
'RAID' partition table types should be better. I believe on pmac they use some
strings too for this, so best would be to use the right strings, be it only for 
documentation purpose. Parted is somewhat broken on this though, as its only
easy way to set partition types is by putting a filesystem on the partition.
Mmm, let me look, ... Indeed the ped_partition_set_system call needs a
filesystem argument : 

  int ped_partition_set_system (PedPartition* part, PedFileSystemType* fs_type)
  Sets the system type on the partition to be fs_type.  Note: the
  file system may be opened, to get more information about the
  file system, e.g. to determine if it's FAT16 or FAT32.

 So in summary: if it can be added easily, IMHO it should, as lvm
 definitly eases system management. 

Indeed. Please go ahead and fill a bug report against partman, or start the
discussion about this with the lvm-tools maintainers.

Friendly,

Sven Luther


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(new) partman-prep_1.dsc standard debian-installer
(new) partman-prep_1.tar.gz standard debian-installer
(new) partman-prep_1_powerpc.udeb standard debian-installer
Add partman support for PPC PReP boot partitions
 This package provides the 'prep' partition method. The yaboot
 boot loader used on IBM pSeries systems requires a special
 bootstrap partition, created by this method.
Changes: partman-prep (1) unstable; urgency=low
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- Initial version forked from partman-palo packages
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D-I Manual -- Status update

2005-01-07 Thread Frans Pop
Contents

- Sarge branch in SVN repository
- D-I repository moved from Alioth to Costa
- New Chinese and Tagalog translations
- Translations that need update (!!)
- Recent and planned changes
- Manual also available in PDF and text format
- Publication of the manual on the official Debian website
- Using po files for translation


Sarge branch in SVN repository
==
Joey Hess has created a 'Sarge' branch for Debian Installer ([1] and [2]). 
This also includes the manual. After a short discussion on debian-boot, 
it's been decided to continue writing and translation for the manual in 
'trunk'.
As the manual that is included on CD's and the official website will be 
built from the Sarge branch, I periodically copy all changes in trunk to 
the Sarge branch. To make this possible we will postpone adding 
documentation for post-Sarge developments (like localechooser) in d-i.

This means that writers and translators can keep working in trunk and 
don't have to worry about the Sarge branch.
The development version of the manual on [3] is built from trunk.

Repository move
===
The SVN repository for d-i has been moved from Alioth to Costa [4].
Instructions on how to switch your checkout are in [5].
The repository can now be browsed using WebSVN from [6].

New translations

A new translation for Tagalog has been started recently.
Googling recently unexpectedly turned up a fully translated simplified 
Chinese translation of the manual [7].

Translations that need update
=
Japanese:   32 out of date; 2 missing
Spanish:35 out of date; 2 missing
Catalan:36 out of date; 2 missing
Italian:72 out of date; 2 missing
Portuguese: 74 out of date; 2 missing
Basque: 85 out of date; 2 missing; 2 with missing/wrong revision comments

German, French, Japanese and Dutch are completely up-to-date.
Czech only misses the most recent changes.

Please try to keep your translations up-to-date. This is especially 
important for Portuguese and Spanish as these will be included on the 
Sarge CD's. The final build of d-i for Sarge still has to happen!

For incomplete languages: please also keep untranslated documents 
up-to-date (the cp-untranslated script can help).

Recent changes
==
- Updates for Alfa and Sparc architectures
- Improved readability of preseeding example (long lines have been split)
- Improved documentation on resizing partitions
- Collin Watson has restructured the sections on booting from USB sticks
  and added a information on this subject for powerpc.
  This has added 2 documents.
- Frans Pop has done a revision of how informalexamples were being used
  and formatted. This has changed a lot of documents, but got rid of some
  unwanted whitespace in the output and improved consistency.

Planned changes
===
- Major change of some entities used in the manual [8].
  This has been discussed on debian-boot to allow translation of entities
  [9] and to better support changing the names of the distribution and
  releases for derived distributions.
  This change will mean a lot of small updates in most documents. The
  current entities will remain supported to allow a gradual transition.
- There is still the planned major revision of chapter 2.

Manual also available in PDF and text format

We have recently switched to what was called the 'new generation' build 
scripts. This means we are now also able to generate PDF, PS and text 
versions of the manual.

Nikolai Prokoschenko is working on a further change that will also allow 
generation of a PDF version for Japanese and improve the Russian version.
This should also be of interest for the Chinese translation and should 
allow future translations in other character sets (like Greek) to be 
supported. More information will follow.

Publication of the manual on the official Debian website

There have been some discussions [10] with people from debian-www about 
publication of the manual on the official website (linked from the Sarge 
release page [11]). It looks like most things have been worked out and 
hopefully publication will happen soon.
Special thanks to Frank Lichtenheld.

The version of the manual that is published on the official website will 
be updated periodically and new languages can be added there.

Using po files for translation
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The Russian translation is currently using po files for their translation 
of the manual. Scripts have been developed to create pot files, convert 
existing translations to po files and generate xml files from the po 
files (see the scripts directory in SVN).
What still needs to be done is to integrate these scripts into the build 
system and to create a web page with translation statistics.
It also has to be decided how to save the po files in the repository and 
if the translated xml 

Re: Bug#260763: [powerpc] Problems with logical volume setup during installation

2005-01-07 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 02:48:59PM +0100, Michael Schmitz wrote:
  Ok. The main problem is that there is no LVM flag for mac partition tables, 
  i
 
 There is no such thing as flags for most things in Mac partition tables

Parted converts flags to funky partition type names, i think. Not idea, but it
works, like  said, i think parted is inherently broken on this, but there is
not much we can do at this time.

 (I'm sure there are some unused bits somewhere in the partition data but
 that's all undocumented and Apple could come and change the meaning of
 this stuff in a second). You can either use a reserved partition type
 (again, I don't know what's reserved by Apple there, we use the A/UX
 partition type Apple_UNIX_SVR2 to be safe), or stick 'LVM' in the
 partition _name_ which can be pretty arbitrary anyway. The d-i partition
 editor sets this to 'untitled' when it could well store the mount point
 info there, plus 'LVM' for LVM partitions, or other info.

Exact, which is the code i proposed to add.

  wonder how usefull that is though. Parted is a bit shaky on this, as i 
  believe
  it should not really be a partition flag, but a partition type.
 
 Whatever we do, it needs to be coordinated with the other powerpc distros.
 I don't know if a new partition type is safe to use; the partition name
 definitely is.

And was stopped because of this consideration. If i had time, i would say
let's lead by example on this one, and the others will follow.

Friendly,

Sven Luther


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Re: Bug#260763: [powerpc] Problems with logical volume setup during installation

2005-01-07 Thread Michael Schmitz
 Ok. The main problem is that there is no LVM flag for mac partition tables, i

There is no such thing as flags for most things in Mac partition tables
(I'm sure there are some unused bits somewhere in the partition data but
that's all undocumented and Apple could come and change the meaning of
this stuff in a second). You can either use a reserved partition type
(again, I don't know what's reserved by Apple there, we use the A/UX
partition type Apple_UNIX_SVR2 to be safe), or stick 'LVM' in the
partition _name_ which can be pretty arbitrary anyway. The d-i partition
editor sets this to 'untitled' when it could well store the mount point
info there, plus 'LVM' for LVM partitions, or other info.

 wonder how usefull that is though. Parted is a bit shaky on this, as i believe
 it should not really be a partition flag, but a partition type.

Whatever we do, it needs to be coordinated with the other powerpc distros.
I don't know if a new partition type is safe to use; the partition name
definitely is.

Michael


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Bug#260763: [powerpc] Problems with logical volume setup during installation

2005-01-07 Thread Michael Schmitz
  There is no such thing as flags for most things in Mac partition tables

 Parted converts flags to funky partition type names, i think. Not idea, but it
 works, like  said, i think parted is inherently broken on this, but there is
 not much we can do at this time.

They might have done this following a comment of mine (my memory id fuzzy
on this, not sure they ever asked). Using the partition type (which is
just a string) is indeed broken IMO.

  this stuff in a second). You can either use a reserved partition type
  (again, I don't know what's reserved by Apple there, we use the A/UX
  partition type Apple_UNIX_SVR2 to be safe), or stick 'LVM' in the
  partition _name_ which can be pretty arbitrary anyway. The d-i partition
  editor sets this to 'untitled' when it could well store the mount point
  info there, plus 'LVM' for LVM partitions, or other info.

 Exact, which is the code i proposed to add.

So we should press this point a bit more forcefully :-)

  Whatever we do, it needs to be coordinated with the other powerpc distros.
  I don't know if a new partition type is safe to use; the partition name
  definitely is.

 And was stopped because of this consideration. If i had time, i would say
 let's lead by example on this one, and the others will follow.

If parted currently encodes the LVM flag in the partition type we can
still put it into the partition name on top of that, and get the Debian
LVM maintainer to accept either flag?

Michael



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Re: Bug#260763: [powerpc] Problems with logical volume setup during installation

2005-01-07 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 05:53:40PM +0100, Michael Schmitz wrote:
   There is no such thing as flags for most things in Mac partition tables
 
  Parted converts flags to funky partition type names, i think. Not idea, but 
  it
  works, like  said, i think parted is inherently broken on this, but there is
  not much we can do at this time.
 
 They might have done this following a comment of mine (my memory id fuzzy
 on this, not sure they ever asked). Using the partition type (which is
 just a string) is indeed broken IMO.

Why ? take for example the bootstrap partition, which is Apple_bootstrap on
mac, and 0x41 on chrp/prep MBRs ? The same goes for LVM or RAID partitions.

What is broken is the fact that parted doesn't really supports a way to set
dostypes, and so abuses the partition flags (bootable, hidden, ...) to set the
dostype accordyingly, this leads to some ugly code to assure that some random
dostype flags are removed from the in-memory partition when one of those are
set.

Furthermore, i believe that the partition type is the right place to store
this info, confirmed by the fact that on MBR a type is used for both RAID and
LVM. After all, the fact that a partition does RAID or LVM cannot be
compatible by it being a linux swap partition for example, in the way the
bootable flag is set for example.

I would suggest we use 'Linux_RAID' and 'Linux_LVM' for those two.

   this stuff in a second). You can either use a reserved partition type
   (again, I don't know what's reserved by Apple there, we use the A/UX
   partition type Apple_UNIX_SVR2 to be safe), or stick 'LVM' in the
   partition _name_ which can be pretty arbitrary anyway. The d-i partition
   editor sets this to 'untitled' when it could well store the mount point
   info there, plus 'LVM' for LVM partitions, or other info.
 
  Exact, which is the code i proposed to add.
 
 So we should press this point a bit more forcefully :-)

Like said, i will gladly write the (trivial) code, if some consensus is
reached.

   Whatever we do, it needs to be coordinated with the other powerpc distros.
   I don't know if a new partition type is safe to use; the partition name
   definitely is.
 
  And was stopped because of this consideration. If i had time, i would say
  let's lead by example on this one, and the others will follow.
 
 If parted currently encodes the LVM flag in the partition type we can
 still put it into the partition name on top of that, and get the Debian
 LVM maintainer to accept either flag?

No, i would vote against this. After all, a parted user can change the name of
a partition through the parted and d-i/partman interface.

I think that doing it the partition type way is the right thing to do. This is
what is done on x86, and it is what makes the most sense, since if you define
a partition as hosting LVM (or RAID) stuff, you clearly define its type.

Friendly,

Sven Luther


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Bug#289185: installation-reports

2005-01-07 Thread Randy Edwards
Package: installation-reports

INSTALL REPORT

Debian-installer-version: late-December 04, from a link off of Debian.org.

uname -a: Linux solidarity 2.4.27 #1 Thu Jan 6 17:26:24 EST 2005 i686 
GNU/Linux (which is my own kernel now;the install was done using the default 
Sarge kernel)

Date: 5 Jan 05

Method: How did you install?  What did you boot off?  If network
  install, from where?  Proxied?

I burned CD1 and booted from there; the rest of the distro was pulled via http 
from ftp.us.debian.org; the download did go through a Debian Woody Squid 
proxy on my local LAN.  It all worked slick. :-)

Machine: Home-built clone with a Biostar M7NCG 400 motherboard (nVidia NForce2 
chipset, integrated nVidia GeForce video, and an integrated i810/ac97 sound 
card).

Processor: AMD Athlon 2700

Memory: 1 GB total (minus 128MB for the integrated video)

Root Device: IDE drive at /dev/hda formatted ReiserFS

Root Size/partition table

   Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/hda1   * 970   3976119551168   83  Linux
/dev/hda2   1 969  488344+  82  Linux swap

I hate having root on /dev/hda2 and found it a bit tricky to use the 
installer's manual routine to set up swap as /dev/hda2 at the beginning of 
the disk (the shell worked fine to run cfdisk manually:-).

Output of lspci and lspci -n:

:00:00.0 Host bridge: nVidia Corporation nForce2 AGP (different version?) 
(rev a2)
:00:00.1 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce2 Memory Controller 1 (rev 
a2)
:00:00.2 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce2 Memory Controller 4 (rev 
a2)
:00:00.3 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce2 Memory Controller 3 (rev 
a2)
:00:00.4 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce2 Memory Controller 2 (rev 
a2)
:00:00.5 RAM memory: nVidia Corporation nForce2 Memory Controller 5 (rev 
a2)
:00:01.0 ISA bridge: nVidia Corporation nForce2 ISA Bridge (rev a4)
:00:01.1 SMBus: nVidia Corporation nForce2 SMBus (MCP) (rev a2)
:00:02.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation nForce2 USB Controller (rev 
a4)
:00:02.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation nForce2 USB Controller (rev 
a4)
:00:02.2 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation nForce2 USB Controller (rev 
a4)
:00:04.0 Ethernet controller: nVidia Corporation nForce2 Ethernet 
Controller (rev a1)
:00:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation nForce2 AC97 
AudioControler (MCP) (rev a1)
:00:08.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation nForce2 External PCI Bridge (rev 
a3)
:00:09.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation nForce2 IDE (rev a2)
:00:1e.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation nForce2 AGP (rev a2)
:02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX - 
nForce GPU] (rev a3)

:00:00.0 0600: 10de:01e0 (rev a2)
:00:00.1 0500: 10de:01eb (rev a2)
:00:00.2 0500: 10de:01ee (rev a2)
:00:00.3 0500: 10de:01ed (rev a2)
:00:00.4 0500: 10de:01ec (rev a2)
:00:00.5 0500: 10de:01ef (rev a2)
:00:01.0 0601: 10de:0060 (rev a4)
:00:01.1 0c05: 10de:0064 (rev a2)
:00:02.0 0c03: 10de:0067 (rev a4)
:00:02.1 0c03: 10de:0067 (rev a4)
:00:02.2 0c03: 10de:0068 (rev a4)
:00:04.0 0200: 10de:0066 (rev a1)
:00:06.0 0401: 10de:006a (rev a1)
:00:08.0 0604: 10de:006c (rev a3)
:00:09.0 0101: 10de:0065 (rev a2)
:00:1e.0 0604: 10de:01e8 (rev a2)
:02:00.0 0300: 10de:01f0 (rev a3)


Base System Installation Checklist:
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Initial boot worked:[O]
Configure network HW:   [O]
Config network: [O]
Detect CD:  [O]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives: [O]
Partition hard drives:  [O]
Create file systems:[O]
Mount partitions:   [O]
Install base system:[O]
Install boot loader:[O]
Reboot: [O]

Comments/Problems:

The sound card was not detected and sound was not set up.

And FWIW, the initial boot device was a LITEON DVDRW SOHW-1633S and not a CD.


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Bug#260763: [powerpc] Problems with logical volume setup during installation

2005-01-07 Thread Shyamal Prasad
Sven == Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Sven No, lvm could be added to partman in no time, but Colin
Sven Watson voted against this, and rightly so, since he claimed
Sven that we should not use a quick hack, but come to a consensus
Sven on the way of doing this with both the d-i team and the
Sven lvm-config tools (also upstream probably), for future
Sven portability issue.

Sven Nobody did really find the time to push this, and thus there
Sven is no lvm support on powermac (altough there should be no
Sven problem on prep and ibm chrp hardware, and i have solution
Sven for pegasos too).

Okay. I suppose this (powermac lvm for d-i) might not happen by the
time Sarge releases. I'd be happy to take a look at it, but I might
not have the skills and/or time

Does the Sarge ppc installation manual needs an update for the
powermac exception then?  Should I file a bug against the manual? I
could probably write a patch for the manual (in English) if it was
desired - the source for the manual is in svn on alioth, right?

Thanks,
Shyamal


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Re: Bug

2005-01-07 Thread Levi Waldron
On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 16:18:22 -0800,  Levi Waldron 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 After installing the base system, the floppy drive, network card, and 
 sound card do not work. Although they are supported hardware, there
 appear to be numerous irq conflicts (these devices sharing irq 1 with
 the keyboard). I have included below some output showing the symptoms.
 This seems to be a major compatibility failure. I have since gotten
 debian installed on this machine by using the Libranet installer (the
 Woody installer also worked) - floppy and network card now work,
 although sound card driver still doesn't load.   

On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 16:18:22 -0800, Brad Nicholas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hi there
 
 saw your debian install bug report.  i am having exactly the same
 problem on a T1742 emachines with latest sarge-rc2 and sarge-daily
 builds.   about to try woody.  Were you able to get your sound card
 working? going to try fixing the network adapter per your post.
 

My memory is a bit rusty now, but I believe that the sound worked after 
I switched from the 2.4 to the 2.6.7 kernel.  I also passed 
pci=noacpi to the kernel at boot time, but I don't think this is what 
actually solved it.  In any case, I did get the sound card working 
without doing anything too complicated.  Sorry I didn't keep better 
notes than that.  If you do figure it out, a reply on-list may be 
helpful to others with the same problem.
Good luck!
levi


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Re: Bug#260763: [powerpc] Problems with logical volume setup during installation

2005-01-07 Thread Frans Pop
On Friday 07 January 2005 21:21, Shyamal Prasad wrote:
 Does the Sarge ppc installation manual needs an update for the
 powermac exception then?  Should I file a bug against the manual? I
 could probably write a patch for the manual (in English) if it was
 desired - the source for the manual is in svn on alioth, right?

A patch with an arch-dependent note to add in
installer/doc/manual/en/using-d-i/modules/lvmcfg.xml
would probably be best.

Please file a separate BR against debian-installer-manual.

Cheers,
FJP


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Re: Bug

2005-01-07 Thread Brad Nicholas
Levi Waldron wrote:
On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 16:18:22 -0800,  Levi Waldron 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

After installing the base system, the floppy drive, network card, and 
sound card do not work. Although they are supported hardware, there
appear to be numerous irq conflicts (these devices sharing irq 1 with
the keyboard). I have included below some output showing the symptoms.
This seems to be a major compatibility failure. I have since gotten
debian installed on this machine by using the Libranet installer (the
Woody installer also worked) - floppy and network card now work,
although sound card driver still doesn't load.   
   

On Thu, 06 Jan 2005 16:18:22 -0800, Brad Nicholas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

Hi there
saw your debian install bug report.  i am having exactly the same
problem on a T1742 emachines with latest sarge-rc2 and sarge-daily
builds.   about to try woody.  Were you able to get your sound card
working? going to try fixing the network adapter per your post.
   

My memory is a bit rusty now, but I believe that the sound worked after 
I switched from the 2.4 to the 2.6.7 kernel.  I also passed 
pci=noacpi to the kernel at boot time, but I don't think this is what 
actually solved it.  In any case, I did get the sound card working 
without doing anything too complicated.  Sorry I didn't keep better 
notes than that.  If you do figure it out, a reply on-list may be 
helpful to others with the same problem.
Good luck!
levi
 

Per your post woody did work with the realtek ethernet on this pc (sarge 
builds did not).I did not get around to checking sound.

I had no luck at all with X11 on an emachines t1742 using woody, even 
after installing xfree86 4.3.0 per some threads I found via google 
(woody uses xfree86 4.1.0).   configuring i810 or vesa did not work. 
even with i810 and 4.3.0 it still failed with an agppart not found error 
(the t1742 uses intel onboard video and has no AGP slot).

I did successfully install Libranet 2.8.1 on that machine though.  
everything works fine, including sound, mac usb keyboard and usb mouse.  
xfree86 is configured as i810 for the video adapter (the t1742 has an 
i845GL).  I do have some font config to do though - the xterms show up 
'blank'

thx again for your initial post.
-- brad nicholas
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Package: installation-reports

INSTALL REPORT

Debian-installer-version:
http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/sarge_d-i/i386/rc2/sarge-i386-netinst.iso

uname -a:
Linux belanna 2.6.9.200501060123 #1 Thu Jan 6 01:51:46 CET 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
(the original kernel was 2.6.8-1-386)

Date:
2004-12-29

Method: 
Debian-Installer RC2
Netinst CD image, with Debian base
'expert' mode, 2.6 kernel

Machine: 
Intel D865GBF board (for details cf. lspci output below)
Processor: Intel Celeron 2.8 GHz
Memory: 1 GB
Root Device: S-ATA hard disk, 160 GB, SAMSUNG SP1614C
Root Size/partition table:  

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# fdisk -l /dev/hde

Disk /dev/hde: 160.0 GB, 160041885696 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19457 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes

   Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/hde1   1   6   48163+  83  Linux
/dev/hde2   7 130  996030   82  Linux swap
/dev/hde3 131   19457   155244127+  83  Linux

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# cat /etc/fstab
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#
# file system mount point   type  options   dump  pass
proc/proc   procdefaults0   0
/dev/hde3   /   ext3defaults,errors=remount-ro 0  1
/dev/hde1   /boot   ext3defaults0   2
/dev/hde2   noneswapsw  0   0
/dev/hdc/media/cdrom0   iso9660 ro,user,noauto  0   0
/dev/fd0/media/floppy0  autorw,user,noauto  0   0
[..]
  
Output of lspci and lspci -n:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# lspci
:00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 82865G/PE/P DRAM Controller/Host-Hub 
Interface (rev 02)
:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp. 82865G Integrated Graphics 
Device (rev 02)
:00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI #1 
(rev 02)
:00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI #2 
(rev 02)
:00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI #3 
(rev 02)
:00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB UHCI #4 
(rev 02)
:00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) USB2 EHCI 
Controller (rev 02)
:00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801 PCI Bridge (rev c2)
:00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) LPC Bridge (rev 02)
:00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) Ultra ATA 100 
Storage Controller (rev 02)
:00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801EB (ICH5) Serial ATA 150 Storage 
Controller (rev 02)
:00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) SMBus Controller (rev 
02)
:00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801EB/ER (ICH5/ICH5R) 
AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)
:01:08.0 Ethernet controller: 

loadlin and boot parameters

2005-01-07 Thread Mark Montague
Hi,

I'm trying to get debian-installer to install sarge on a toshiba
portege 3020ct which I just bought. It's a bit awkward since it has
win98, but neither floppy nor bootable cdrom, so I've taken the
approach of FIPSing the win98 down, and using loadlin to boot the
hd-media version of d-i. I ran into the problem that has been reported
with this laptop that when looking for the network card, it locks up
trying to load yenta-socket (actually, as I was typing this mail, I
was also trying today's build of the 2.4 kernel d-i, and now it gets
an error and continues, rather than locking up, so I'm a lot better
off than I was a few mins ago, but I'm still interested in help with
loadlin+d-i, and there's still some 2.6 problem, so I'm sending it
along anyway). In the responses to an earlier message
about this problem, several people pointed out some boot parameters to
help, in particular hw-detect/start_pcmcia=false. Unfortunately, all
of the boot parameters to d-i seem to be ignored when I put them on
the loadlin line, although interestingly kernel parameters seem to be
understood (the ramdisk_size was needed to avoid an error, so that
must work). So, my first question is am I doing something wrong in
getting the boot parameters from loadlin to d-i? Here is the current
version of my boot.bat script (I know putting several flags is
probably not helpful, but I figured I would leave them in to show
things I'd tried... I've also tried BOOT_DEBUG=3:

loadlin vmlinuz root=/dev/ram initrd=initrd.gz ramdisk_size=35000 
hw-detect/start_pcmcia=false expert emergency

When I activate the shell on console 2, I can see
hw-detect/start_pcmcia=false in the environment as reported by env,
but it seems to be ignored by hw-detect. This suggests that it's not a
problem with command.com needing something quoted.

I also tried the 2.6 images, and got an error uncompressing the
kernel (or maybe the ramdisk), both for the release candidate and the
daily build.

Unfortunately, since I have no bootable media, I'm pretty much stuck
with loadlin... the install manual seems to imply that GRUB could be
used in this situation-- is there a version of GRUB that runs under
windows? I could conceivably use the console-2-shell to run GRUB while
d-i is asking about language choices, but I figured it'd be better to
figure out how to get d-i to recognize expert or emergency if I'm
going with that approach... (but since the 1/7/05 build of 2.4 doesn't
freeze at least, I'm a bit better off...)

Of course, I'd also be interested in how to get the PCMCIA socket to
work eventually, since I'll certainly want to get my network card
working soon, so suggestions for that are welcome, too. If I figure
that out, I'd be happy to report it to hw-detect, of course.

Anyway, thanks for any help, and good work on d-i!

( the earlier message about the yenta lockup is
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 9/19/04 from Brandon
Coleman [EMAIL PROTECTED] )

   thanks

- M

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Re: Bug#260763: [powerpc] Problems with logical volume setup during installation

2005-01-07 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 12:21:35PM -0800, Shyamal Prasad wrote:
 Sven == Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
 Sven No, lvm could be added to partman in no time, but Colin
 Sven Watson voted against this, and rightly so, since he claimed
 Sven that we should not use a quick hack, but come to a consensus
 Sven on the way of doing this with both the d-i team and the
 Sven lvm-config tools (also upstream probably), for future
 Sven portability issue.
 
 Sven Nobody did really find the time to push this, and thus there
 Sven is no lvm support on powermac (altough there should be no
 Sven problem on prep and ibm chrp hardware, and i have solution
 Sven for pegasos too).
 
 Okay. I suppose this (powermac lvm for d-i) might not happen by the
 time Sarge releases. I'd be happy to take a look at it, but I might
 not have the skills and/or time

No, the code is trivial (one small parted change, and one upload of parted to
move into sarge), what needs doing is discussing this with other distros which
run on powermac and lvm upstream.

 Does the Sarge ppc installation manual needs an update for the
 powermac exception then?  Should I file a bug against the manual? I
 could probably write a patch for the manual (in English) if it was
 desired - the source for the manual is in svn on alioth, right?

As i understand manual modifications are too late anyway, but then it would be
easier to fix the issue.

Friendly,

Sven Luther


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Re: Daily Netinst bootable?

2005-01-07 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 06 January 2005 23:33, Brian Steele wrote:
 The daily testing netinst build ISO does not create a bootable CD.  Is
 this by design?  If so, where can I get boot floppy images to use the
 CD?

 I downloaded the ISO from here:
 http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/i386/20050105/

I have tried this same image and it boots perfectly for me.
The floppy images needed to boot from floppy but take packages from the CD 
are included on the CD (look in /install/floppy/).

If you need other alternatives or would like to see the manual, take a 
look at: http://www.nl.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/

Cheers,
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During the installation of sarge you are asked if your system time is set to 
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On Friday 07 January 2005 02:14, Fredrik Lindberg wrote:
 During the installation of sarge you are asked if your system time is
 set to GMT, but there is no way of correcting the system time if it
 happens to be wrong. I suggest adding a button with a pup-up window,
 where the system time can be set, to to the user interface.

As we already have #247484 and #268817 in the BTS, I think this bug can 
safely be closed.

Cheers,
FJP


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Processing of tasksel_2.20_i386.changes

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tasksel_2.20_i386.changes ACCEPTED

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Accepted:
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Re: Bug#260763: [powerpc] Problems with logical volume setup during installation

2005-01-07 Thread Frans Pop
On Friday 07 January 2005 23:43, Sven Luther wrote:
 As i understand manual modifications are too late anyway [...].

Not quite true.

Because of the module versions issue in the kernel / toolchain the window 
of opportunity to make changes to the manual in time for the CD's was 
opened drastically. As yet I don't think there is a new schedule for the 
next (final?) initrd build.
The only thing that should still be discussed beforehand is major updates 
and restructuring.

Also, the manual published on the official website under the release pages 
for Sarge will be updated periodically (even after the release).

So especially small improvements are useful and very welcome ATM.


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Bug#289261: INSTALL REPORT

2005-01-07 Thread Douglas Brick
Package: installation-reports

INSTALL REPORT

Debian-installer-version: 6 Jan 2005 www.debian.org
uname -a: Linux newtmp 2.4.27-1-386 #1 Wed Dec 1 19:43:08 JST 2004
  i586 GNU/Linux
Date: 6 Jan 2005 16:30 PST
Method: network install from netinst cd;
  ftp://debian.oregonstate.edu/; nonproxied
Machine: older i86 type
Processor: 200Mhz Intel
Memory: 80MB
Root Device: /dev/hda1
Root default partion, all disk on one partion
Output of lspci and lspci -n:

:00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 430FX - 82437FX TSC [Triton I] (rev 02)
:00:07.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82371FB PIIX ISA [Triton I] (rev 02)
:00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82371FB PIIX IDE [Triton I] (rev 02)
:00:11.0 VGA compatible controller: Cirrus Logic GD 5430/40 [Alpine] (rev 
47)
:00:14.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c905B 100BaseTX [Cyclone] 
(rev 64)

:00:00.0 0600: 8086:122d (rev 02)
:00:07.0 0601: 8086:122e (rev 02)
:00:07.1 0101: 8086:1230 (rev 02)
:00:11.0 0300: 1013:00a0 (rev 47)
:00:14.0 0200: 10b7:9055 (rev 64)

Base System Installation Checklist:
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Initial boot worked:[O]
Configure network HW:   [O]
Config network: [O]
Detect CD:  [O]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives: [O]
Partition hard drives:  [O]
Create file systems:[O]
Mount partitions:   [O]
Install base system:[O]
Install boot loader:[O]
Reboot: [E]

Comments/Problems: There was some problem with the second part of the
install, after the first reboot, but I wasn't there to see exactly
what happened, somehow it rebooted itself and was starting to redo the
2ndary install again.  I'm guessing there's some intermittent problem
with the hardware.

I've been putting off installing Debian for a year or so now, but the
old Unix versions I'd been using were becoming untenable.  I tried
fedora, and rather liked it, but the most recent version wouldn't
install on some of the older and some of the newer machines.  It's too
early to tell for sure, but just watching the Debian install on 2
machines now, I'm really impressed.  Thanks much for the good work.




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Package: installation-reports

INSTALL REPORT

Debian-installer-version: 6 Jan 2005 www.debian.org
uname -a: Linux newtmp 2.4.27-1-386 #1 Wed Dec 1 19:43:08 JST 2004
  i586 GNU/Linux
Date: 6 Jan 2005 16:30 PST
Method: network install from netinst cd;
  ftp://debian.oregonstate.edu/; nonproxied
Machine: older i86 type
Processor: 200Mhz Intel
Memory: 80MB
Root Device: /dev/hda1
Root default partion, all disk on one partion
Output of lspci and lspci -n:

:00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 430FX - 82437FX TSC [Triton I] (rev 02)
:00:07.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82371FB PIIX ISA [Triton I] (rev 02)
:00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82371FB PIIX IDE [Triton I] (rev 02)
:00:11.0 VGA compatible controller: Cirrus Logic GD 5430/40 [Alpine] (rev 
47)
:00:14.0 Ethernet controller: 3Com Corporation 3c905B 100BaseTX [Cyclone] 
(rev 64)

:00:00.0 0600: 8086:122d (rev 02)
:00:07.0 0601: 8086:122e (rev 02)
:00:07.1 0101: 8086:1230 (rev 02)
:00:11.0 0300: 1013:00a0 (rev 47)
:00:14.0 0200: 10b7:9055 (rev 64)

Base System Installation Checklist:
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Initial boot worked:[O]
Configure network HW:   [O]
Config network: [O]
Detect CD:  [O]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives: [O]
Partition hard drives:  [O]
Create file systems:[O]
Mount partitions:   [O]
Install base system:[O]
Install boot loader:[O]
Reboot: [E]

Comments/Problems: There was some problem with the second part of the
install, after the first reboot, but I wasn't there to see exactly
what happened, somehow it rebooted itself and was starting to redo the
2ndary install again.  I'm guessing there's some intermittent problem
with the hardware.

I've been putting off installing Debian for a year or so now, but the
old Unix versions I'd been using were becoming untenable.  I tried
fedora, and rather liked it, but the most recent version wouldn't
install on some of the older and some of the newer machines.  It's too
early to tell for sure, but just watching the Debian install on 2
machines now, I'm really impressed.  Thanks much for the good work.



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Bug#288974: Debian installer report: i386, d-i RC2, 2004-12-29

2005-01-07 Thread gregor herrmann
On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 11:13:53PM +0100, Frans Pop wrote:

Thx for your answer.

No problem with closing the 'bug' since it was only a report. Anyway
I'd like to make a few remarks.

  * During the installation various messages where shown that several
modules could not be loaded. I guess they were loaded at a later
stage or were not needed anyway. So again no problem but a little
 Well, I can only say: don't use expert mode ;-)

Well, I don't want to use something else :-)

 You may want to try booting the installer with 'debconf/priority=medium' 
 boot parameter next time.

Ok, if I find another machine needing Debian ...
 
  * Sound: After the base install and with the shipped kernel sound
didn't work. After compiling a custom kernel with ALSA and without
OSS everything is fine.
 Alsa currently never works after the first reboot. Some alsa package needs 
 to be installed that includes blacklisting the OSS modules.
 You should have been able to get thinks working without compiling your own 
 kernel as well.

At this time we installed 2 machines with Debian. Sound didn't work
on both of them. The 2 'solutions' were
* the new kerne lwith alsa and without oss (my machine)
* disabling oss modules somehow (my friend's machine)
Both attempts needed some knowledge and action 
 
  * RAM: I was a little surprised that the shipped kernel included
about each and everything but no HIGHMEM support so I initially had
only 896MB of my 1GB RAM available. (And I didn't know that 1GB is
already HIGHMEM ;-))
 I'm not sure why this choice has been made. There probably is a good 
 reason for it. If you want to find out I suggest asking the kernel 
 mailing list. Anyway, it is not a debian installer issue.

Pooh - I don't think I want to participate in LKML (yet :-))
Anyway: Isn't it possible to activate this option in the Debian
default install kernel?

Gregor
 
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