Re: USB keyboard not working on a cinema display/cube

2005-01-10 Thread Sven Luther
On Sat, Jan 08, 2005 at 06:59:38PM +0100, Nicolas Jungers wrote:
 Le 31 déc. 04, à 00:24, Sven Luther a écrit :
 
 On Mon, Dec 27, 2004 at 07:11:34PM +0100, Nicolas Jungers wrote:
 hi,
 the sarge-powerpc-netinst.iso fail to activate my keyboard when
 connected to the display. It's true of the RC2 version and of the
 daily/powerpc/20041226/ version.
 
 Can you look in /proc/bus/usb/devices if it shows up or something, and 
 post us
 a lsmod output. May be tricky without keyboard though :) Maybe using 
 the
 network-console and some presseding may help here ?
 
 I dunno how to do that on a Mac. What I did was plugin two keyboards, 

Yeah, that was the other solution.

 one on the cube, the other on the cinema display, and both didn't 
 respond.

but if you plug only one into the cube, it is ok ? Can you try pluging the
keyboard in the cube, go upto partman, and then add the display keyboard and
look at /proc/bus/usb/devices (or lsusb or whatever output ?)

 Now, I tryed the installer because my system wasn't comming up after a 
 kernel upgrade. Going from 2.6.7 to 2.6.8 makes the hotplug stall.

I bet you are not using the debian kernel though, right ? 

 If you send me instructions I can try to dig further.

Well, let's hope the above works. If not we can try a
preseeding+network-console trick, but it is more involved.

Friendly,

Sven Luther




Re: Desktop task broken on !(i386/powerpc)

2005-01-10 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 10:48:53AM +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
 [Sven Luther]
  Do you really think that anyone installing debian will be baffled
  when asked to choose between the gnome or KDE desktop ? Do you
  seriously believe that ?
 
 Yes, I seriously believe that.  I'm involved in the debian-edu
 subproject, and we try to make Debian available for all pupils and
 students during education.  Several of the teachers responsible for
 setting up the computer network at their local school will be
 seriously baffled when asked to choose between gnome and kde.

It is strange though, that you that are in the educational world believe in
dumbing down the install for everyone instead of educating the few who have
problems. I bet some words of explanation of the kind : 

  there are two possible desktop styles/skin/whatever, please choose one, if
  unsure, choose insert prefered one
 
And how do these people react to choosing KDE over gnome in gdm ? Or do they
simply use the default desktop there ? If so, what would be the lose in
chosing such a default desktop in tasksel, and having some choice like :

  Gnome Desktop (default)
  KDE Desktop (alternate desktop)
  Simple Desktop (alternate desktop) - this one is just X with twm or whatever

Would have had the same effect on usability, not ? 

  I bet those people will probably be more confused by the various
  server tasks.
 
 Absolutely.  Which is why I try to encurrage redusing the amount of
 questions during first time install, and hide the complexity and
 flexibility from common users view, to reduce the cognitive strain
 on the first time debian users.  Us experts will find the options
 anyway.

So drop the question down to a lesser priority, default to the desktop task in
normal priority, and let's flesh out the tasks to something reasonable.

  And you think it is easier for them to discover the KDE desktop once
  they have GDM running ? What do you imagine our current disk
  requirements are ?
 
 I do not believe these users _care_ if they get the KDE or gnome

Well, so we chose one, make it the default, and propose the other as an
alternative. everyone is happy and we can have meaningfull tasks.

 desktop.  I have no idea what you mean by our current disk
 requirements.

The minimal disk size needed to install. This used to be 800 Mo for a desktop
system in woody, if i remember well.

Friendly,

Sven Luther




Re: Moving discover1, discover1-data repositories to Subversion

2005-01-10 Thread Sven Luther
On Sat, Jan 08, 2005 at 06:48:54PM -0800, Joshua Kwan wrote:
 Joshua Kwan wrote:
 The structure would probably be
 
 svn+ssh://svn.debian.org/svn/pkg-discover/discover1/trunk
 svn+ssh://svn.debian.org/svn/pkg-discover/discover1-data/trunk
 
 etc.
 
 If there are no objections I will do it in a day or so.
 Thanks!
 
 Actually, time's up. I got impatient and went and did it. I followed my 
 proposed structure, all the tags have been imported, etc.
 
 I've made a tarball of the CVS repository available at
 
 http://people.debian.org/~joshk/pkg-discover.tar.gz
 
 and I have (re)moved the one on haydn.

Just for info, i stronglt recomend keeping the trunk stuff at the base of the
hierarchy, and the tags dir as well, or peopel will have a hell of a trouble
when there are loads of tags to checkout only the trunk.

Friendly,

Sven Luther




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Bug#260763: [powerpc] Problems with logical volume setup during installation

2005-01-10 Thread Michael Schmitz
   Parted converts flags to funky partition type names, i think. Not idea, 
   but it
   works, like  said, i think parted is inherently broken on this, but there 
   is
   not much we can do at this time.
 
  They might have done this following a comment of mine (my memory id fuzzy
  on this, not sure they ever asked). Using the partition type (which is
  just a string) is indeed broken IMO.

 Why ? take for example the bootstrap partition, which is Apple_bootstrap on
 mac, and 0x41 on chrp/prep MBRs ? The same goes for LVM or RAID partitions.

Why? Because we don't know how MockOS will react to a partition _type_ set
to anything but Apple_Bootstrap, Apple_HFS, Apple_UNIX_SVR2 or Apple_Free.
If you're sure (or just reasonably confident) Linux_LVM will be ignored by
Apple boot and disk mount code, go ahead. I can only test this for a
fairly narrow range of OS X versions, and maybe a resurrected 8.6. Since
there's always the partition name (for Apple_UNIX_SVR2 partitions which
MacOS ignores since prehistoric times), I didn't really want to bother
testing this.


 Furthermore, i believe that the partition type is the right place to store
 this info, confirmed by the fact that on MBR a type is used for both RAID and
 LVM. After all, the fact that a partition does RAID or LVM cannot be
 compatible by it being a linux swap partition for example, in the way the
 bootable flag is set for example.

 I would suggest we use 'Linux_RAID' and 'Linux_LVM' for those two.

And libfdisk (for example) used to look at the partition _name_ field in
Mac partition tables for clues where to find swap. What's the problem with
that?

  So we should press this point a bit more forcefully :-)

 Like said, i will gladly write the (trivial) code, if some consensus is
 reached.

We seem to have trouble reaching a consensus even here :-) Seriously
though, let's just try with 'Linux_RAID' and 'Linux_LVM' partition _type_
fields in Mac partition tables, maybe add Linux_Swap later and keep plain
data partitons as before. That should keep the comaptibility code to a
minimum (look for 'swap' in type and name fields) and get the scheme some
limited testing.


  If parted currently encodes the LVM flag in the partition type we can
  still put it into the partition name on top of that, and get the Debian
  LVM maintainer to accept either flag?

 No, i would vote against this. After all, a parted user can change the name of
 a partition through the parted and d-i/partman interface.

A mac-fdisk user can change either at will. Linux always reserves your
right to shoot yourself into the foot. But for the sake of saving users
from their own stupidity, go ahead with the scheme you suggested.

Michael





Re: Bug#260763: [powerpc] Problems with logical volume setup during installation

2005-01-10 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Jan 10, 2005 at 11:13:07AM +0100, Michael Schmitz wrote:
Parted converts flags to funky partition type names, i think. Not idea, 
but it
works, like  said, i think parted is inherently broken on this, but 
there is
not much we can do at this time.
  
   They might have done this following a comment of mine (my memory id fuzzy
   on this, not sure they ever asked). Using the partition type (which is
   just a string) is indeed broken IMO.
 
  Why ? take for example the bootstrap partition, which is Apple_bootstrap on
  mac, and 0x41 on chrp/prep MBRs ? The same goes for LVM or RAID partitions.
 
 Why? Because we don't know how MockOS will react to a partition _type_ set

I don't know any MockOS, please provide real examples.

 to anything but Apple_Bootstrap, Apple_HFS, Apple_UNIX_SVR2 or Apple_Free.
 If you're sure (or just reasonably confident) Linux_LVM will be ignored by

Just give it a try and enlighten us.

 Apple boot and disk mount code, go ahead. I can only test this for a
 fairly narrow range of OS X versions, and maybe a resurrected 8.6. Since
 there's always the partition name (for Apple_UNIX_SVR2 partitions which
 MacOS ignores since prehistoric times), I didn't really want to bother
 testing this.

Yeah, but imagine that the user wants to use the partition name for something
sensible, and all this goes down.

Notice that i was approached about RAID on sparc, which is the exact same
issue too.

  Furthermore, i believe that the partition type is the right place to store
  this info, confirmed by the fact that on MBR a type is used for both RAID 
  and
  LVM. After all, the fact that a partition does RAID or LVM cannot be
  compatible by it being a linux swap partition for example, in the way the
  bootable flag is set for example.
 
  I would suggest we use 'Linux_RAID' and 'Linux_LVM' for those two.
 
 And libfdisk (for example) used to look at the partition _name_ field in
 Mac partition tables for clues where to find swap. What's the problem with
 that?

well, suppose that a french user wants to name it echange instead of swap ?

   So we should press this point a bit more forcefully :-)
 
  Like said, i will gladly write the (trivial) code, if some consensus is
  reached.
 
 We seem to have trouble reaching a consensus even here :-) Seriously
 though, let's just try with 'Linux_RAID' and 'Linux_LVM' partition _type_
 fields in Mac partition tables, maybe add Linux_Swap later and keep plain
 data partitons as before. That should keep the comaptibility code to a
 minimum (look for 'swap' in type and name fields) and get the scheme some
 limited testing.

Ok, but as said, Colin Watson vetoed me on that, and as we already have a
parted in experimental, ...

   If parted currently encodes the LVM flag in the partition type we can
   still put it into the partition name on top of that, and get the Debian
   LVM maintainer to accept either flag?
 
  No, i would vote against this. After all, a parted user can change the name 
  of
  a partition through the parted and d-i/partman interface.
 
 A mac-fdisk user can change either at will. Linux always reserves your

The future belongs to libparted frontends though. And this is not linux, but
the new user-friendly debian-installer partman, so ...

 right to shoot yourself into the foot. But for the sake of saving users
 from their own stupidity, go ahead with the scheme you suggested.

I would have for ages, but Colin Watson vetoed it without larger consensus,
and since he is one of the RMs, ... And beside i sort of agree with his
arguments about compatibility problems.

Friendly,

Sven Luther




Re: Updating the install manual info at the ddp web pages

2005-01-10 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Sun, Jan 09, 2005 at 10:47:13PM +0100, Frans Pop wrote:
 On Sunday 02 January 2005 00:10, Frank Lichtenheld wrote:
  The information at http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#install
  seems rather outdated. Perhaps someone could prepare an updated
  entry? (This hasn't to be a direct patch for the WML, the text and
  links would suffice)
 
 Thanks for drawing our attention to this!
 
 Below the current and a proposal for the new text.
 
 Joeyh: Can you please check.
 

I've added this information but restructured it a bit. It should be 
available in the next webwml run so please verify it in 6-8 hours.

Regards

Javier


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Re: Bug#260763: [powerpc] Problems with logical volume setup during installation

2005-01-10 Thread Michael Schmitz
  Why? Because we don't know how MockOS will react to a partition _type_ set

 I don't know any MockOS, please provide real examples.

s/MockOS/MacOS/g

  to anything but Apple_Bootstrap, Apple_HFS, Apple_UNIX_SVR2 or Apple_Free.
  If you're sure (or just reasonably confident) Linux_LVM will be ignored by

 Just give it a try and enlighten us.

Just as soon as I get another spare disk. BTW anyone can try that, so the
call goes to the Mac users in general.

  Apple boot and disk mount code, go ahead. I can only test this for a
  fairly narrow range of OS X versions, and maybe a resurrected 8.6. Since
  there's always the partition name (for Apple_UNIX_SVR2 partitions which
  MacOS ignores since prehistoric times), I didn't really want to bother
  testing this.

 Yeah, but imagine that the user wants to use the partition name for something
 sensible, and all this goes down.

The user can still name the partition anything (s)he wants as long as LVM
is part of the name.

  And libfdisk (for example) used to look at the partition _name_ field in
  Mac partition tables for clues where to find swap. What's the problem with
  that?

 well, suppose that a french user wants to name it echange instead of swap ?

Too bad really. Suppose a french user is even unhappy with the Linux_Swap
type setting. Same thing. With respect to computers, broken english
is lingua franca.

  though, let's just try with 'Linux_RAID' and 'Linux_LVM' partition _type_
  fields in Mac partition tables, maybe add Linux_Swap later and keep plain
  data partitons as before. That should keep the comaptibility code to a
  minimum (look for 'swap' in type and name fields) and get the scheme some
  limited testing.

 Ok, but as said, Colin Watson vetoed me on that, and as we already have a
 parted in experimental, ...

Which does this, so unstable parted we shouldn't bother about?

  A mac-fdisk user can change either at will. Linux always reserves your

 The future belongs to libparted frontends though. And this is not linux, but
 the new user-friendly debian-installer partman, so ...

I don't care if it has super cow powers. You can't count on the partition
table to be created by Linux tools, much less parted.

  right to shoot yourself into the foot. But for the sake of saving users
  from their own stupidity, go ahead with the scheme you suggested.

 I would have for ages, but Colin Watson vetoed it without larger consensus,
 and since he is one of the RMs, ... And beside i sort of agree with his
 arguments about compatibility problems.

So who is the LVM tools maintainer, and which committee do we have to
address this across distros?

Michael




Re: Bug#260763: [powerpc] Problems with logical volume setup during installation

2005-01-10 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Jan 10, 2005 at 12:49:45PM +0100, Michael Schmitz wrote:
   Why? Because we don't know how MockOS will react to a partition _type_ set
 
  I don't know any MockOS, please provide real examples.
 
 s/MockOS/MacOS/g
 
   to anything but Apple_Bootstrap, Apple_HFS, Apple_UNIX_SVR2 or Apple_Free.
   If you're sure (or just reasonably confident) Linux_LVM will be ignored by
 
  Just give it a try and enlighten us.
 
 Just as soon as I get another spare disk. BTW anyone can try that, so the
 call goes to the Mac users in general.
 
   Apple boot and disk mount code, go ahead. I can only test this for a
   fairly narrow range of OS X versions, and maybe a resurrected 8.6. Since
   there's always the partition name (for Apple_UNIX_SVR2 partitions which
   MacOS ignores since prehistoric times), I didn't really want to bother
   testing this.
 
  Yeah, but imagine that the user wants to use the partition name for 
  something
  sensible, and all this goes down.
 
 The user can still name the partition anything (s)he wants as long as LVM
 is part of the name.

Yeah.

   And libfdisk (for example) used to look at the partition _name_ field in
   Mac partition tables for clues where to find swap. What's the problem with
   that?
 
  well, suppose that a french user wants to name it echange instead of swap 
  ?
 
 Too bad really. Suppose a french user is even unhappy with the Linux_Swap
 type setting. Same thing. With respect to computers, broken english
 is lingua franca.

Ah, no, that is not the case. The partition type is something which is used by
the system, and the user should not directly interfer with. The partition name
is something else.

   though, let's just try with 'Linux_RAID' and 'Linux_LVM' partition _type_
   fields in Mac partition tables, maybe add Linux_Swap later and keep plain
   data partitons as before. That should keep the comaptibility code to a
   minimum (look for 'swap' in type and name fields) and get the scheme some
   limited testing.
 
  Ok, but as said, Colin Watson vetoed me on that, and as we already have a
  parted in experimental, ...
 
 Which does this, so unstable parted we shouldn't bother about?

Nope. the version in unstable is the same as the version in testing, which is
imposed to us by the debian-installer development model. This is why the
version which should have gone in unstable resulted in experimental, and we
can't also not to much hack it, since it will be in unstable as soon as d-i is
released or whatever.

   A mac-fdisk user can change either at will. Linux always reserves your
 
  The future belongs to libparted frontends though. And this is not linux, but
  the new user-friendly debian-installer partman, so ...
 
 I don't care if it has super cow powers. You can't count on the partition
 table to be created by Linux tools, much less parted.

I can most assuredly count on each new debian/sarge install which is done on
RAID or LVM partition to use partmam, which is d-i's libparted frontend.

I doubt you could do it in another way without extensive d-i hacking, and we
won't support those users which do so.

   right to shoot yourself into the foot. But for the sake of saving users
   from their own stupidity, go ahead with the scheme you suggested.
 
  I would have for ages, but Colin Watson vetoed it without larger consensus,
  and since he is one of the RMs, ... And beside i sort of agree with his
  arguments about compatibility problems.
 
 So who is the LVM tools maintainer, and which committee do we have to
 address this across distros?

No idea, the lvm-tools and mdadm-tools maintainers would be a good start.

Like said, all go ahead and reach a consensus, and i will implement it not
only in debian's parted package, but also in upstream parted. And since all or
most distro's out there use a libparted frontend to their installer ...

Friendly,

Sven Luther




Re: Daily Netinst bootable?

2005-01-10 Thread Christian T. Steigies
On Sun, Jan 09, 2005 at 08:21:42AM +0100, Christian Perrier wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp ls -l 
 /home/bubulle/iso/sid_d-i/sarge-i386-netinst.iso
 -rw-r--r--  1 bubulle vmware 136386560 2005-01-08 23:08 
 /home/bubulle/iso/sid_d-i/sarge-i386-netinst.iso
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~/tmp md5sum 
 /home/bubulle/iso/sid_d-i/sarge-i386-netinst.iso
 a532c4464909cde1d97d78ef6243c131  
 /home/bubulle/iso/sid_d-i/sarge-i386-netinst.iso
 
 My vmware machine is setup for booting first from CD, then from HD,
 then from the network.
 
 However, it jumps to the network boot quite quickly (the virtual HD is
 not bootable) just as if the CD was not bootable.

I had the same problem with a PII notebook, it was booting fine with an
older netinstall CD, but not with the one I downloaded last friday:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/data/maulaf/isoll sarge-i386-netinst.iso 
-rw-r--r--  1 steigies users 136327168 Jan  6 23:00 sarge-i386-netinst.iso
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/data/maulaf/isomd5sum sarge-i386-netinst.iso 
b77e2b3d26dd31638d5609fd0a60726a  sarge-i386-netinst.iso

Christian




Re: Desktop task broken on !(i386/powerpc)

2005-01-10 Thread Joey Hess
Sven Luther wrote:
 The minimal disk size needed to install. This used to be 800 Mo for a desktop
 system in woody, if i remember well.

As documented in the installation manual, it's about 2 gb. I doubt that
many machines you'd want to install the desktop task on will have a
smaller hard drive.

Woody was close to the same, since tasksel also included kde and gnome
in the desktop task then.

-- 
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(fwd) RE: ide troubles

2005-01-10 Thread maximilian attems
thanks for your quick feedback,
forwarding messages as debian-boot may have more insights?

- Forwarded message from Will Lentz [EMAIL PROTECTED] -

From: Will Lentz [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RC2 doesn't have this problem!  Yay!  :-)

Of course, now I get an error message saying:
Failed to copy file from CDROM, Retry?
and Alt-F4 shows:
grep:
/cdrom/dists//Release
: No such file or directory 

How do I tell it to look for /cdrom/dists/sarge/Release?

Thanks,
Will

 -Original Message-
 From: maximilian attems [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 maximilian attems
 Sent: Monday, January 10, 2005 9:25 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: Will Lentz
 Subject: Re: ide troubles
 
 tags 240932 moreinfo
 thanks
 
 have you tried to reporduce it with an recent d-i, like rc2:
 http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/
 
 can you provide the logs of the kernel oops you were experiencing.
 thanks maks
 
 

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Bug#284996: Looking for a Sanity Check

2005-01-10 Thread Steve Kleiser




Greetings.

 While attempting to "zero in" on the cause of a problem while partitioning a laptophdd (described in bug#284996) I put a copy of hexdump on a floppy, booted from a SargeRC-2 CD, and once the install progressed to the point where it looks for networkhardware, stopped, went to the 2nd console window and tried;

 cat /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/disc | /floppy/hexdump -C | more

Which appears to work, but generated unexpected results (appeared to show that cfdisk 2.2corrupted the partition table of the hard drive, by repeatedly writing the function names'GreyString' and oregroundWindow'?) This begs the question; Am I seeing what I think I'mseeing?

 If I do the same thing starting with a single Win98 partition, the same area of the disk(judging from the addresses displayed by hexdump) appear far less suspicious, and include'55AA' (which I believe marks the end of the partition table for a bootable partition).

 So my question to the list is; Is it OK to use the above-mentioned cat-hexdump-morecommand, or am I deceiving myself somehow? TIA,

 Steve Kleiser

Re: [powerpc] Problems with logical volume setup during installation

2005-01-10 Thread Shyamal Prasad
Sven == Sven Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Sven On Sun, Jan 09, 2005 at 09:54:14PM -0800, Shyamal Prasad
Sven wrote:

 
 1) PowerMac does not currently have Partition types for
 Linux. Today we are just using an Apple defined type
 (Apple_UNIX_SVR2) which is safe.

Sven What exactly do you mean by safe ?

I meant that it does not cause Apple's OF and other software to barf.
Presumably Apple's code will tolerate unknown partition types

 3) A proposal (from Sven, for example) is to use 'Linux LVM' as
 a partition type on PowerMac systems.

Sven Yes, we should do the same for 'Linux RAID' (altough i would
Sven use an underscore in both cases).

OK.

 grunt work), but I'm not even sure where to start. I don't even

Sven Maybe start with the lvm-tools debian maintainers ?

OK.

/Shyamal




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Bug#289756: installation-reports

2005-01-10 Thread Brian Steele






Package: installation-reportsDebian-installer-version: Sarge uname -a:Date: 01/10/2005Method: CD netinst from here http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/cdimage-testing/daily/i386/20050109/ Machine: Asus A7N8X-E Deluxe, w/Radeon 9200 AGP video card, USB keyboard and mouse.Processor: 3200+Memory: 512MBRoot Device: 1 SATA Western Digital HD using onboard SATA port.Root Size/partition table: Output of lspci and lspci -n: Base System Installation Checklist:[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try itInitial boot worked: [x]Configure network HW: [x]Config network: [x]Detect CD: [E]Load installer modules: [ ]Detect hard drives: [ ]Partition hard drives: [ ]Create file systems: [ ]Mount partitions: [ ]Install base system: [ ]Install boot loader: [ ]Reboot: [ ]Comments/Problems:Ive tried business card, netinst and disk 1 of the CD set. Each time the unstaller hangs here:Loading module sd_mod for SCSI disk supportIf I use the linux26 kernal the OS loads fine. Is there more information I can provide? I attempt to get it if there is.






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small error in sarge installation manual

2005-01-10 Thread Giuseppe Sacco
Riccardo Fabris pointed out an error in boot-installer/parameters.xml.
The attached patch shoud fix the problem. If you agree, I will apply it.

Bye,
Giuseppe
--- boot-installer/parameters.xml	2005-01-10 22:08:03.885978080 +0100
+++ boot-installer/parameters.xml.orig	2005-01-04 08:35:29.0 +0100
@@ -90,7 +90,7 @@
 termdebconf/priority/term
 listitempara
 
-This parameter settings will set the lowest priority of messages
+This parameter settings will set the highest priority of messages
 to be displayed. 
 
 /parapara


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kernel abiname transition and security updates status

2005-01-10 Thread Joey Hess
Before we can release d-i rc3 we need all the kernels updated with at
least some security fixes, notably the ones that change the kernel
module ABI, and we need to update things to reflect the new kernel
abiname. Here's my understanding of the current status of that:

i386
2.4 and 2.6 updated to -2 abiname; debs not yet in testing;
udebs updated. Until debs hit testing we cannot change
rootskel/base-installer to use the new package names.
ia64
Now same as i386.
powerpc
No abiname. 2.4 not updated(?). 2.6 updated, udebs updated, debs
not yet in testing.

As far as I know, no other arches except amd64 (not tracking that) are
updated. Of the other arches, alpha, hppa (2.6), s390, and sparc have a
abiname field in the kernel package names, so we really must wait on
those before releasing rc3. arm, m68k, hppa (2.4), mips, and mipsel have
no abinames, which just means past d-i releases will break even worse
for those arches once the updated kernels and udebs reach testing. So
I'd like to delay rc3 until those are updated with the abi changes too,
to avoid having rc3 break after it's released.

Anyway, I hope we can get the new kernels and udebs built for the
missing arches in the next couple of weeks?

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Re: small error in sarge installation manual

2005-01-10 Thread Joey Hess
Giuseppe Sacco wrote:
 Riccardo Fabris pointed out an error in boot-installer/parameters.xml.
 The attached patch shoud fix the problem. If you agree, I will apply it.
  
 -This parameter settings will set the lowest priority of messages
 +This parameter settings will set the highest priority of messages

Since this parameter settings is bad English too, I've committed a
rewritten varient.

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linux-kernel-di-ia64-2.6_1.1_ia64.changes is NEW

2005-01-10 Thread Debian Installer
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debian-installer
CDROM support
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(new) ext3-modules-2.6.8-2-itanium-smp-di_1.1_ia64.udeb standard 
debian-installer
EXT3 filesystem support
 This package contains the EXT3 filesystem module for the Linux kernel.
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FAT filesystem support
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(new) fb-modules-2.6.8-2-itanium-smp-di_1.1_ia64.udeb extra debian-installer
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debian-installer
Core FireWire drivers
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(new) firmware-modules-2.6.8-2-itanium-smp-di_1.1_ia64.udeb standard 
debian-installer
Firmware request modules
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 external firmware.
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debian-installer
IDE support
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IDE drivers
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debian-installer
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PLIP drivers
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PPP drivers
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debian-installer
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debian-installer
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debian-installer
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(new) 

ddetect_1.12_i386.changes ACCEPTED

2005-01-10 Thread Debian Installer

Accepted:
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  to pool/main/d/ddetect/archdetect_1.12_i386.udeb
ddetect_1.12.dsc
  to pool/main/d/ddetect/ddetect_1.12.dsc
ddetect_1.12.tar.gz
  to pool/main/d/ddetect/ddetect_1.12.tar.gz
ethdetect_1.12_all.udeb
  to pool/main/d/ddetect/ethdetect_1.12_all.udeb
hw-detect-full_1.12_all.udeb
  to pool/main/d/ddetect/hw-detect-full_1.12_all.udeb
hw-detect_1.12_i386.udeb
  to pool/main/d/ddetect/hw-detect_1.12_i386.udeb
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ddetect override disparity

2005-01-10 Thread Debian Installer
There are disparities between your recently accepted upload and the
override file for the following file(s):

hw-detect-full_1.12_all.udeb: package says priority is standard, override says 
optional.

Either the package or the override file is incorrect.  If you think
the override is correct and the package wrong please fix the package
so that this disparity is fixed in the next upload.  If you feel the
override is incorrect then please reply to this mail and explain why.

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rootskel_1.10.1_i386.changes ACCEPTED

2005-01-10 Thread Debian Installer

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  to pool/main/r/rootskel/rootskel-bootfloppy_1.10.1_i386.udeb
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Bug#289756: installation-reports

2005-01-10 Thread Peter Karbaliotis
Brian Steele wrote:
...
Machine: Asus A7N8X-E Deluxe, w/Radeon 9200 AGP video card, USB keyboard and mouse.
...
I also see this with the same motherboard (see Bug #280950).  What can 
we do to help diagnose this problem?

Peter



Re: Desktop task broken on !(i386/powerpc)

2005-01-10 Thread Stefano Canepa
Il giorno ven, 07-01-2005 alle 00:58 +0100, Frans Pop ha scritto:
 On Thursday 06 January 2005 20:12, Sven Luther wrote:
  They chose one, install it, don't like it, install the other. The new
  installer is easy to use, so it should be no problem :)
 
 flame_invite_mode=on
 I vote for KDE.
 flame_invite_mode=off
 
 
ROTFL and just to share with all what Frans already knows: I vote for
GNOME. :)

Ciao
sc

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Desktop task and the Desktop machine partman recipe (was: )Re: Desktop task broken on !(i386/powerpc))

2005-01-10 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Joey Hess ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):


 As documented in the installation manual, it's about 2 gb. I doubt that
 many machines you'd want to install the desktop task on will have a
 smaller hard drive.

Which, BTW, leaves us with the problem of the Desktop machine
partman recipe which is likely to allow users have a 300Mb / partition
and then later try to fit the Desktop task in it...

#24...


I'm reluctant in deciding alone to raise the minimum size for / to
2000MB in this recipe, at least without further discussionbut I
think we should.




Next d-i release name (was: Re: kernel abiname transition and security updates status)

2005-01-10 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Joey Hess ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

 Before we can release d-i rc3 we need all the kernels updated with at


Should it be called RC3 or whatever better sounds like an official
release name?

Given that we indeed made quite few(?) changes, isn't it time for an
official stamped release?





Re: Desktop task broken on !(i386/powerpc)

2005-01-10 Thread Stefano Canepa
Il giorno ven, 07-01-2005 alle 10:48 +0100, Petter Reinholdtsen ha
scritto:
 [Sven Luther]
  Do you really think that anyone installing debian will be baffled
  when asked to choose between the gnome or KDE desktop ? Do you
  seriously believe that ?
 
 Yes, I seriously believe that.  I'm involved in the debian-edu
 subproject, and we try to make Debian available for all pupils and
 students during education.  Several of the teachers responsible for
 setting up the computer network at their local school will be
 seriously baffled when asked to choose between gnome and kde.

This is why the single Desktop task should not be deleted (IMWHO) and
checking it should automatically check every subtask.

  I bet those people will probably be more confused by the various
  server tasks.
 
 Absolutely.  Which is why I try to encurrage redusing the amount of
 questions during first time install, and hide the complexity and
 flexibility from common users view, to reduce the cognitive strain
 on the first time debian users.  Us experts will find the options
 anyway.
 
  And you think it is easier for them to discover the KDE desktop once
  they have GDM running ? What do you imagine our current disk
  requirements are ?
 
 I do not believe these users _care_ if they get the KDE or gnome
 desktop.  I have no idea what you mean by our current disk
 requirements.

I agree with you in fact other distros take a decision for GNOME or KDE
as default, for example Mandrake and Suse use KDM+KDE.

Just my 2 
sc

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Re: kernel abiname transition and security updates status

2005-01-10 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-01-10 16:24]:
 As far as I know, no other arches except amd64 (not tracking that) are

mips and mipsel have been updated.  However, given the new local root
exploit (fixed in SVN), we'll all need to make another round of
updates anyway.

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Bug#289774: Install Report

2005-01-10 Thread Géraud Plagne
Package: installation-reports
INSTALL REPORT
Debian-installer-version: 2004-10-26 from sid-amd64-netinst.iso on alioth
uname -a: Linux athena 2.6.8-10-amd64-k8 #1 Thu Dec 30 11:45:02 CET 2004 x86_64 GNU/Linux
Date: 2004-01-03
Method: Boot on CD, network install, ADSL (PPPoE) from http://debian-amd64.alioth.debian.org/pure64 
sid main . No proxy.

Machine: Full-custom PC
Processor: AMD Athlon64 3000+ socket 939
Memory: Corsair value 1x512Mb Cas 2.5
Root Device: SATA Maxtor Diamond Max Plus 10, 200Gb 7200 RPM
Root Size/partition table:i
   Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/boot   /dev/sda1   1   3   24066   83  Linux
/dev/sda2   4 122  955867+  82  Linux 
swap / Solaris
WinXP   /dev/sda3   * 1232554195350407  
HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda42555   16105   108848407+   f  W95 
Ext'd (LBA)
/mnt/data   /dev/sda54987   1228158597056b  W95 
FAT32
Mandrake64 10.1 /dev/sda6   12282   1610530716248+  83  Linux
/   /dev/sda72555498619534977   83  Linux
Output of lspci and lspci -n:
:00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 0282
:00:00.1 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 1282
:00:00.2 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 2282
:00:00.3 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 3282
:00:00.4 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 4282
:00:00.7 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 7282
:00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237 PCI bridge [K8T800 South]
:00:07.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): VIA Technologies, Inc. IEEE 1394 Host Controller (rev 80)
:00:08.0 RAID bus controller: Promise Technology, Inc. PDC20378 (FastTrak 378/SATA 378) (rev 02)
:00:0a.0 Ethernet controller: Marvell Technology Group Ltd. Yukon Gigabit Ethernet 
10/100/1000Base-T Adapter (rev 13)
:00:0c.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corp. 82557/8/9 [Ethernet Pro 100] (rev 05)
:00:0f.0 RAID bus controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VIA VT6420 SATA RAID Controller (rev 80)
:00:0f.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus 
Master IDE (rev 06)
:00:10.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 81)
:00:10.1 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 81)
:00:10.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 81)
:00:10.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 81)
:00:10.4 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 86)
:00:11.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237 ISA bridge [K8T800 South]
:00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio 
Controller (rev 60)
:00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 NorthBridge
:00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 NorthBridge
:00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 NorthBridge
:00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 NorthBridge
:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] (rev a1)
---
:00:00.0 0600: 1106:0282
:00:00.1 0600: 1106:1282
:00:00.2 0600: 1106:2282
:00:00.3 0600: 1106:3282
:00:00.4 0600: 1106:4282
:00:00.7 0600: 1106:7282
:00:01.0 0604: 1106:b188
:00:07.0 0c00: 1106:3044 (rev 80)
:00:08.0 0104: 105a:3373 (rev 02)
:00:0a.0 0200: 11ab:4320 (rev 13)
:00:0c.0 0200: 8086:1229 (rev 05)
:00:0f.0 0104: 1106:3149 (rev 80)
:00:0f.1 0101: 1106:0571 (rev 06)
:00:10.0 0c03: 1106:3038 (rev 81)
:00:10.1 0c03: 1106:3038 (rev 81)
:00:10.2 0c03: 1106:3038 (rev 81)
:00:10.3 0c03: 1106:3038 (rev 81)
:00:10.4 0c03: 1106:3104 (rev 86)
:00:11.0 0601: 1106:3227
:00:11.5 0401: 1106:3059 (rev 60)
:00:18.0 0600: 1022:1100
:00:18.1 0600: 1022:1101
:00:18.2 0600: 1022:1102
:00:18.3 0600: 1022:1103
:01:00.0 0300: 10de:0322 (rev a1)

Base System Installation Checklist:
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it
Initial boot worked:[O]
Configure network HW:   [O]
Config network: [E]
Detect CD:  [O]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives: [O]
Partition hard drives:  [O]
Create file systems:[O]
Mount partitions:   [O]
Install base system:[E]
Install boot loader:[E]
Reboot: [E]
Comments/Problems:
The PPPoE option is not proposed by the installer for network configuration. It must be done 
manually later on.

The base system install started well, but the finalization raised a kernel panic due to acpi. I 
needed to pass acpi=off to the kernel for the base install to complete.

The boot loader install 

Re: Next d-i release name (was: Re: kernel abiname transition and security updates status)

2005-01-10 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Jan 10, 2005 at 11:17:09PM +0100, Christian Perrier wrote:
 Quoting Joey Hess ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

  Before we can release d-i rc3 we need all the kernels updated with at

 Should it be called RC3 or whatever better sounds like an official
 release name?

 Given that we indeed made quite few(?) changes, isn't it time for an
 official stamped release?

What is quite a few changes here?  I thought the next d-i release was
going to be bugfixes and kernel updates only?

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Bug#289786: installation-report

2005-01-10 Thread Jeremy S. Archuleta
Package: installation-reports

Debian-installer-version: 2005/01/01
uname -a: Linux nis1 2.6.8-1-386 #1 Thu Nov 25 04:24:08 UTC 2004 i686 GNU/Linux
Date: 2005/01/10
Method: Boot CD-ROM, http install from debian.lanl.gov
Machine: EPIA M1
Processor:
Memory: 512MB
Root Device: IDE /dev/hda
Root Size/partition table: 
# cfdisk -P s /dev/hda
Partition Table for /dev/hda

   First   Last
 # Type   Sector  Sector   OffsetLength   Filesystem Type (ID) Flag
-- --- --- --- -- ---  
 1 Primary   0 3676049 63 3676050 Linux (83)   Boot
 2 Primary 367605012672449  0 8996400 W95 Ext'd (LBA) (0F) None
 5 Logical 3676050 4156109 63  480060 Linux swap (82)  None
 6 Logical 4156110 8062739 63 3906630 Linux (83)   None
 7 Logical 806274012672449 63 4609710 Linux (83)   None


# df
/dev/hda1 on / type reiserfs (rw,notail)
proc on /proc type proc (rw)
sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw)
devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
/dev/hda7 on /home type reiserfs (rw)
/dev/hda6 on /mirror/radiant-server type reiserfs (rw)
usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)

Output of lspci and lspci -n:
# lspci
:00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8623 [Apollo CLE266]
:00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8633 [Apollo Pro266 AGP]
:00:0d.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): VIA Technologies, Inc. IEEE 1394 Host 
Controller (rev 80)
:00:10.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x UHCI USB 1.1 
Controller (rev 80)
:00:10.1 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x UHCI USB 1.1 
Controller (rev 80)
:00:10.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82x UHCI USB 1.1 
Controller (rev 80)
:00:10.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 82)
:00:11.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8235 ISA Bridge
:00:11.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. 
VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06)
:00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. 
VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 50)
:00:12.0 Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 [Rhine-II] (rev 
74)
:00:14.0 Ethernet controller: Lite-On Communications Inc LNE100TX (rev 20)
:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8623 [Apollo 
CLE266] integrated CastleRock graphics (rev 03)

# lspci -n
:00:00.0 0600: 1106:3123
:00:01.0 0604: 1106:b091
:00:0d.0 0c00: 1106:3044 (rev 80)
:00:10.0 0c03: 1106:3038 (rev 80)
:00:10.1 0c03: 1106:3038 (rev 80)
:00:10.2 0c03: 1106:3038 (rev 80)
:00:10.3 0c03: 1106:3104 (rev 82)
:00:11.0 0601: 1106:3177
:00:11.1 0101: 1106:0571 (rev 06)
:00:11.5 0401: 1106:3059 (rev 50)
:00:12.0 0200: 1106:3065 (rev 74)
:00:14.0 0200: 11ad:0002 (rev 20)
:01:00.0 0300: 1106:3122 (rev 03)

Base System Installation Checklist:
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Initial boot worked:[E]
Configure network HW:   [O]
Config network: [E]
Detect CD:  [O]
Load installer modules: [O]
Detect hard drives: [O]
Partition hard drives:  [O]
Create file systems:[O]
Mount partitions:   [O]
Install base system:[O]
Install boot loader:[O]
Reboot: [O]

Comments/Problems:
The splash screen has no text. There is simply a picture of 
Debian against a black background. Even when typing in characters, no 
characters appear on the screen. Only through F1 was I able to go get some 
insight as to what to do. But someone else had to tell me to hit F1 because 
there was no text/help instructions.

When running through the initial install (before the reboot) 
the network configuration found 3 network cards: onboard VIA-RHINE(eth0), 
Lite-On(eth1), and a FireWire interface(eth2). So I configured eth1 with an IP 
address since that was where the ethernet cable is plugged in. Upon reboot, the 
network cards were now: eth0 (VIA-RHINE), FireWire(eth1), and Lite-On(eth2). 
Because this part of the install asks to configure apt, I chose to install over 
a local mirror (http://debian.lanl.gov) and subsequently ran into problems 
because the network was not configured. Only by going to TTY2 (alt+F2), logging 
in as root, and modifying /etc/network/interfaces, was I able to get the 
network back up. This error occurred both when using linux26 and expert26 
as the initial boot options. I believe the cause was that modules were loaded 
in a different order upon reboot. To a beginner, this is a serious problem 
because the network was working (initial boot), and then it wasn't (after 
reboot), with no way to 

Re: Create software raid array during install, error when filesystems is created.

2005-01-10 Thread Andrew Pollock
On Thu, Jan 06, 2005 at 10:07:48PM +0100, Bj?rn Nilsson wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I have 2 equally sized IDE PATA disks.
 I created a partition covering the whole drive on each disk, the
 partition type was raid.
 I created a software RAID0 array, and in turn created partitions on it
 and set them to ReiserFS.

So you created one big RAID partition, and then made partitions in it? This
is contrary to the way RAID on Linux works, and if partman allowed you to do
it, that's a bug, and explains what happened next...
 
 In the next step, When the filesystem are supposed to be created a get
 a red screen telling me:  Failed to create ReiserFS part1 on RAID0-
 unit0. If i swich to the third virtual console i see this messsage:
 Stat of the device /dev/md/0/part1 failed.
 
 
 I have tried RAID1 also, ext3 instead of Reiser. Also tried to use the
 LVM to set up a volume group and so on, all with about the same
 result, failure when creating file system.
 
 So I installed on just 1 drive as normal, and that worked fine
 (impressive stuff with the hw autodetection btw!)
 
 I have tried with rc2 and nightly build from 2005-01-05, same result
 
 I read some problems with lilo or grub when using software raid, but
 that seems unrelated becouse this is well before any bootloader is
 installed.
 

If you want to do what you've described, you'll need to put LVM over the top
of the RAID0 volume, and create multiple logical volumes out of it, and
treat them as you would partitions.

regards

Andrew

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Changed naming scheme for templates for network-console, s390-dasd s390-netdevice

2005-01-10 Thread Frans Pop
Hi Joey,

After the discussion on #debian-boot, I've changed the naming scheme for 
three modules that had debian-installer/ prefixes. They now use the 
module name as prefix, conform most modules.

- debian-installer/network-console/... - network-console/...
- debian-installer/s390/netdevice/...  - s390-netdevice/...
- debian-installer/s390/dasd/...   - s390-dasd/...
- debian-install/s390/dasd/... - s390-dasd/...

Some remarks:
- I've not changed the name of debian-installer/module/title templates
- For s390-dasd I've also introduced a TEMPLATE_PREFIX define in dasd.c
- All packages build correctly but have not been tested
- I've checked that templates are not used in other modules

Could you please revise the changes (r24891) and upload if OK?

Not sure if this change should also be implemented for Sarge.

TIA,
Frans


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 This package contains the drivers for the Happy Meal/Big Mac 10/100BaseT,
 Sun QuadEthernet and MyriCOM Gigabit Ethernet SBus devices for SPARC
 systems, as well as various PCI NIC drivers (only on sparc64.)
 .
 Do not install this package on a real Debian system! You probably
 want a kernel-image package instead.
(new) nic-modules-2.6.8-2-sparc64-di_0.05_sparc.udeb standard debian-installer
Network card modules for Sparc kernels
 This package contains the drivers for the Happy Meal/Big Mac 10/100BaseT,
 Sun QuadEthernet and MyriCOM Gigabit Ethernet SBus devices for SPARC
 systems, as well as various PCI NIC drivers (only on sparc64.)
 .
 Do not install this package on a real Debian system! You probably
 want a kernel-image package instead.
(new) plip-modules-2.6.8-2-sparc32-di_0.05_sparc.udeb optional debian-installer
PLIP drivers
 This package contains PLIP drivers for the Linux kernel.
(new) plip-modules-2.6.8-2-sparc64-di_0.05_sparc.udeb optional debian-installer
PLIP drivers
 This package contains PLIP drivers for the Linux kernel.
(new) ppp-modules-2.6.8-2-sparc32-di_0.05_sparc.udeb optional debian-installer
PPP drivers
 This package contains PPP drivers for the Linux kernel.
(new) ppp-modules-2.6.8-2-sparc64-di_0.05_sparc.udeb optional debian-installer
PPP drivers
 This package contains PPP drivers for the Linux kernel.
(new) reiserfs-modules-2.6.8-2-sparc32-di_0.05_sparc.udeb standard 
debian-installer
Reiser filesystem support
 This package contains the Reiser filesystem module for the Linux kernel.
(new) reiserfs-modules-2.6.8-2-sparc64-di_0.05_sparc.udeb standard 
debian-installer
Reiser filesystem support
 This package contains the Reiser filesystem module for the Linux kernel.
(new) scsi-common-modules-2.6.8-2-sparc32-di_0.05_sparc.udeb standard 
debian-installer
Very common SCSI drivers
 This package contains very common SCSI drivers for the Linux kernel.
(new) scsi-common-modules-2.6.8-2-sparc64-di_0.05_sparc.udeb standard 
debian-installer
Very common SCSI drivers
 This package contains very common SCSI drivers for the Linux kernel.
(new) scsi-core-modules-2.6.8-2-sparc32-di_0.05_sparc.udeb standard 
debian-installer
Core SCSI subsystem
 This package contains the core SCSI subsystem for the Linux kernel.
(new) 

Re: Next d-i release name (was: Re: kernel abiname transition and security updates status)

2005-01-10 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Jan 10, 2005 at 03:44:37PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
 On Mon, Jan 10, 2005 at 11:17:09PM +0100, Christian Perrier wrote:
  Quoting Joey Hess ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
   Before we can release d-i rc3 we need all the kernels updated with at
 
  Should it be called RC3 or whatever better sounds like an official
  release name?
 
  Given that we indeed made quite few(?) changes, isn't it time for an
  official stamped release?
 
 What is quite a few changes here?  I thought the next d-i release was
 going to be bugfixes and kernel updates only?

I think Christian really meant quite few (i.e. not many) rather than
quite a few (i.e. several) here.

Cheers,

-- 
Colin Watson   [EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: Bug#260763: [powerpc] Problems with logical volume setup during installation

2005-01-10 Thread Shyamal Prasad

Michael == Michael Schmitz
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 

Michael s/MockOS/MacOS/g

Michael to anything but Apple_Bootstrap, Apple_HFS,
Michael Apple_UNIX_SVR2 or Apple_Free.  If you're sure (or just
Michael reasonably confident) Linux_LVM will be ignored by
Michael 

Sven Just give it a try and enlighten us.

Michael Just as soon as I get another spare disk. BTW anyone can
Michael try that, so the call goes to the Mac users in general.

I have a PowerMac7,3 (Dual G5) that is intended to run Linux so I gave
it a shot. 

I created a partition with type Linux_LVM and name LVM_Test using
mac-fdisk. I put an ext3 file system on the partition so I could
fsck/mount it to see if the Mac OS programs or OF screwed around with
the partition data itself. Then I did the following tests.
 
Booted into Mac OS X 10.3.7 (Open Firmware 5.1.8f7) and used the Disk
Utility to look at the partitions. The test partition shows up, and a
Get Info showed its type as 'Linux_LVM'. Booted back into Linux and
the Linux_LVM partition was still good.

Then I put the G5 into target disk mode after hooking it to a G4
Laptop (can you tell Mac's are becoming popular in this family?) with
a firewire cable.

The G4 runs Mac OS X 10.2.8, Open Firmware 4.7.2f2. I used Disk
Utility on it to examine the target mode disk on the G5, and only the
HFS+ partition with Mac OS X showed up. I booted the G5 back into Linux,
the Linux partition is there and looked good.

Then I put the G5 back in target disk mode. On the laptop I fired up
Mac OS 9.2.2 US System Profiler (via OS 10.2.8) and looked at 'Devices
and Volumes'. I only see the HFS+ volume there. Okay, so I booted the
G5 into Linux and the Linux_LVM partition was still good.

Okay, so I boot the G5 into target disk mode one last time with laptop
powered off. Then I boot laptop into it's Open Firmware. Look around
with devalias. I don't see the G5 disk - I don't know if there is
something I can do to mount it so I can't see if this firmware
rev. screws with it (no, I don't have permission to do any Linux stuff
on the G4 laptop so I can't put a test partition on it directly :-)

So, yes, I think the partition names don't freak out the last 2 or 3
generations of MacOS software. If I'm missing some obvious test let me
know, I should be able to try it.

Cheers!
Shyamal