Bug#426897: Bad spanish translation on display selection during installation process

2007-06-01 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
tag moreinfo
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On Thu, May 31, 2007 at 07:51:57PM +0200, Zamorano wrote:
 Package: installation
 Severity: important
 
 The translation to spanish of the description makes that a user who wants all 
 the resolutions listed installed unmark all options; this makes the 
 installation don't install any resolution in the X system, so X are not 
 accesible without reconfiguration.

Sorry, but I don't understand this report. What precise text are you
referring too? The installation of a Debian system is made up of many prompts
and the X configuration has a number of messages. 

Please tell us which message you did not understand (you can find all of them
in /var/cache/debconf/templates.dat) and if you have a proposal for an
alternate translation please also attach it to the bug report.

Regards

Javier



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Bug#426897: Bad spanish translation on display selection during installation process

2007-06-01 Thread Christian Perrier
reassign 426897 xorg
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Quoting Zamorano ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 Package: installation
 Severity: important
 
 The translation to spanish of the description makes that a user who wants all 
 the resolutions listed installed unmark all options; this makes the 
 installation don't install any resolution in the X system, so X are not 
 accesible without reconfiguration.


This translation pertains to the xorg package. Spanish translators,
please check and eventually correct the attached file. The offending
strings are the first strings in the file.





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Re: Speed-up encrypted partitioning

2007-06-01 Thread David Härdeman
On Thu, May 31, 2007 20:51, Soenke Ruempler - NorthClick wrote:
 Is it possible to skip the random-overwrite of existing data (erasing disk
 step) if harddisk encryption is chosen? I think there is no need if it's a
 fresh harddisk and it's slow with a big harddisk (up to several
 days).

There are already two bug reports filed on this subject (381898 and
400034). Hopefully it will be implemented before the next release, but
note that it *is* still a good idea to do the erase step on a completely
new HDD as an attacker might get some information from looking at which
sectors are in use so I wouldn't recommend it.

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Bug#426943: *_crypt naming causes df to line-wrap

2007-06-01 Thread David Härdeman
On Fri, June 1, 2007 00:25, martin f krafft wrote:
 The naming of crypto devices as hda1_crypt causes df to use two
 lines for each filesystem. Please consider using just cr_hda1
 instead.

I'm not sure what the point is...is it merely cosmetic? Because if it is,
cr_X is not that nice either. Also, the default crypto install uses LVM
which greatly increases the risk of other lines with line wraps anyway.
Finally, if we add persistent device names along the line of
/dev/disk/by-something/* that will also increase the risk.

So unless someone explains to me in which way I've misunderstood this, I'm
inclined to close the bug report.

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Bug#426943: *_crypt naming causes df to line-wrap

2007-06-01 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach David Härdeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007.06.01.1347 +0200]:
 I'm not sure what the point is...is it merely cosmetic?

Yes, merely cosmetic.

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Bug#426943: *_crypt naming causes df to line-wrap

2007-06-01 Thread Frans Pop
On Friday 01 June 2007 00:25, martin f krafft wrote:
 The naming of crypto devices as hda1_crypt causes df to use two
 lines for each filesystem. Please consider using just cr_hda1
 instead.

I'm not sure if changing the name for just this reason is wise. df will 
wrap lines in a lot more cases than just this one, including in practice 
any LVM volume.
And you can always use 'df -P' if you really need the output to be on the 
same line (for parsing by a script for example).

As changing the name would for example break the rescue procedure I 
recently documented on [1] (the crypto device name used in the luksOpen 
command needs to match what is in /etc/crypttab to avoid e.g. 
update-initramfs to fail), I would not like to see the name changed 
lightly.

Cheers,
FJP

[1] http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Rescue/Crypto


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Re: floppies, a radical proposal

2007-06-01 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 31 May 2007 20:47, peter green wrote:
 Since we already know the bios can read the users floppy drive (or they
 wouldn't have been booting off it) it would seem to make sense to load
 all the floppies BEFORE loading linux and abandoning the bios's
 services.

Here are the contents of an Etch i386 boot floppy:
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 1137494 2007-03-10 08:57 linux
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  117159 2007-03-10 08:57 initrd.gz
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  59 2007-03-10 08:57 disk.lbl
-r-xr-xr-x 1 root root9932 2007-03-10 08:57 ldlinux.sys
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 591 2007-03-10 08:57 syslinux.cfg
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root  67 2007-03-10 08:57 boot.txt
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 859 2007-03-10 08:57 f1.txt
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 666 2007-03-10 08:57 f2.txt
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 616 2007-03-10 08:57 f3.txt
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 416 2007-03-10 08:57 f4.txt
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 806 2007-03-10 08:57 f5.txt
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root1139 2007-03-10 08:57 f6.txt
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 916 2007-03-10 08:57 f7.txt
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root1102 2007-03-10 08:57 f8.txt
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 766 2007-03-10 08:57 f9.txt
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 568 2007-03-10 08:57 f10.txt
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root9519 2007-03-10 08:57 splash.rle

As you can see, almost all space on the boot floppy is already used by the 
kernel, with the initrd at about 10% of that and the rest negligible.

So, the only real issue is the size of the kernel and freeing up space by 
being able to do without an initrd on the boot floppy (although nice), 
would probably only buy us some time.

So, my main question would be: what is possible?
Can we avoid the need for the minimal boot floppy initrd?
Could the kernel be split over 2 floppies?
Will users still be able to choose installation methods and enter boot 
parameters?

I'm very much in favor of following up on this. If it could mean 
supporting booting from USB floppies again, that would be great.

Cheers,
FJP


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Bug#360699: installation-reports: Installation on Sun Netra X1

2007-06-01 Thread Jerome Warnier
I can confirm it still happens with stable Etch on same hardware.
I can do any testing you like provided they are requested in the next 2
weeks, as I have a Netra X1on my desk doing nothing but waiting to get
installed.


Hope it helps


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Bug#412922: please generate win32-loader.ini manifest file

2007-06-01 Thread Frans Pop
On Thursday 31 May 2007 20:19, Robert Millan wrote:
 Maybe this is a good time to review this?  I'm attaching a new patch,
 with some minor changes including adapting to latest win32-loader.ini
 syntax.

I guess my main reservation against this is that including a Windows .ini 
file and thus making the installer autoload within Windows if the CD is 
inserted, _increases_ our responsibility if the user should fail to 
read (or probably more importantly: understand) any of the warnings 
about erasing your harddisk and losing existing data.

The fact that actually starting an install stills involve a reboot, is not 
a real safeguard as installing almost anything interesting on Windows 
requires a reboot anyway.

The fact that currently the installer needs to be booted completely 
separately, at least makes absolutely clear to even the most clueless 
Windows user that Debian is not some Windows proggie that can just be 
tried (as running random Windows proggies is of course always safe, 
right?).

I could probably be convinced to include this on CD images if the patch 
would not start your loader, but would open a modified README.html that 
has an extensive explanation of what Debian is and only contains a link 
to the loader itself.
This would however increase the need for translation of the README.html 
(which is a worthwhile goal for debian-cd anyway).

The same would go for USB keystick, but I am not sure if this should be 
included in other installation methods.

Note that this is not an RM standpoint, but just my own opinion.

Cheers,
FJP

P.S. What is the status of acceptance of the loader into the archive?


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m68k mklibs problem?

2007-06-01 Thread Stephen R Marenka
I fired up the latest daily for m68k and ran into the following problem. 

| /bin/sh: symbol lookup error: /lib/libc.so.6: undefined symbol: _rtld_global

Is this a mklibs problem? Any ideas?

Thanks,

Stephen

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Bug#360699: marked as done (installation-reports: Installation on Sun Netra X1)

2007-06-01 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Package: installation-reports

Boot method: RARP/TFTP
Image version: 
http://http.us.debian.org/debian/dists/sarge/main/installer-sparc/current/images/sparc64/netboot/2.6/
07-Mar-2005 01:32  5.3M  boot.img

Date: 2nd April 2006

Machine: Sun Netra X1
Processor: 
# cat /proc/cpuinfo

cpu : TI UltraSparc IIe (Hummingbird)
fpu : UltraSparc IIe integrated FPU
promlib : Version 3 Revision 0
prom: 4.0.9

Memory:
# cat /proc/meminfo
MemTotal:  1029576 kB

Partitions: 
fdisk -l /dev/hda durante la isntalacion y obtuve esto:

Disk /dev/hda (Sun disk label): 16 heads, 255 sectors, 19156 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 4080 * 512 bytes

Device FlagStart   EndBlocks   Id  System
/dev/hda1 17722 19158   2929440   83  Linux native
/dev/hda2 16765 17722   1952280   82  Linux swap
/dev/hda3 0 19158  390823205  Whole disk

Output of lspci and lspci -n:
#lspci

:00:00.0 Host bridge: Sun Microsystems Computer Corp. Ultra IIe
:00:03.0 Non-VGA unclassified device: ALi Corporation M7101 Power
Management Controller [PMU]
:00:05.0 Ethernet controller: Davicom Semiconductor, Inc. 21x4x
DEC-Tulip compatible 10/100 Ethernet (rev 31)
:00:07.0 ISA bridge: ALi Corporation M1533 PCI to ISA Bridge
[Aladdin IV]
:00:0a.0 USB Controller: ALi Corporation USB 1.1 Controller (rev 03)
:00:0c.0 Ethernet controller: Davicom Semiconductor, Inc. 21x4x
DEC-Tulip compatible 10/100 Ethernet (rev 31)
:00:0d.0 IDE interface: ALi Corporation M5229 IDE (rev c3)

#lspci -n
:00:00.0 0600: 108e:a001
:00:03.0 : 10b9:7101
:00:05.0 0200: 1282:9102 (rev 31)
:00:07.0 0601: 10b9:1533
:00:0a.0 0c03: 10b9:5237 (rev 03)
:00:0c.0 0200: 1282:9102 (rev 31)
:00:0d.0 0101: 10b9:5229 (rev c3)

Base System Installation Checklist:
[O] = OK, [E] = Error (please elaborate below), [ ] = didn't try it

Initial boot worked:[ O ]
Configure network HW:   [ O ]
Config network: [ E ]
Detect CD:  [   ] -- This system does not have a CD-ROM
Load installer modules: [ O ]
Detect hard drives: [ O ]
Partition hard drives:  [ O ]
Create file systems:[ O ]
Mount partitions:   [ O ]
Install base system:[ O ]
Install boot loader:[ E ]
Reboot: [ E ]

Comments/Problems:

I have been unable to find this information at
http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/errata

Netwokr config issue


The first problem throughout the installation was the DHCP configuration
step, it goes through all the other steps without showing any error but this
step fails as it is not able to get an assigned IP address.

It turns out that the problem is due to the drivers being loaded. And this
issue have to be fixed in console. If you go to the console an run
'ifconfig'. The output of ifconfig is the following:

eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:00:00:00:00:00
  BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
  RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)

eth1  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:00:00:00:00:00
  BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
  RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)
  Interrupt:192

loLink encap:Local Loopback
  LOOPBACK  MTU:16436  Metric:1
  RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
  RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)

Notice that the Harware MAC address is all '0's, which is clearly wrong.
If you use 'dmesg' you see the following errors:

SABRE0: PCI SERR signal asserted.
SABRE0: PCI bus error, PCI_STATUS[eaa0]
SABRE0: PCI SERR signal asserted.
SABRE0: PCI bus error, PCI_STATUS[caa0]

And this is how the kernel loads them:

Linux Tulip driver version 1.1.13-NAPI (May 11, 2002)
dmfe: Davicom DM9xxx net driver, version 1.36.4 (2002-01-17)
eth0: Davicom DM9102 at 

Re: m68k mklibs problem?

2007-06-01 Thread Frans Pop
On Friday 01 June 2007 17:07, Stephen R Marenka wrote:
 I fired up the latest daily for m68k and ran into the following
 problem.

 | /bin/sh: symbol lookup error: /lib/libc.so.6: undefined symbol:
 | _rtld_global

 Is this a mklibs problem? Any ideas?

It could be. There have been changes in libc/gcc which broke library 
reduction on most other arches. Bastian has switched mklibs to use a 
different (custom) readelf.

Do you already have the latest mklibs installed on your buildd?
Does the problem get solved if you revert to the previous version of 
mklibs (0.1.20)?

Please make sure to test that if it does work with the old mklibs, that 
the image actually works, as that currently is _not_ the case for alpha.

If the new mklibs does not work for m68k, then please provide the output 
of a build (for a single target) with two extra '-v' added in the mklibs 
call in the Makefile (look for MKLIBS).

Cheers,
FJP

P.S. Could you also have a look at the space problem for the m68k floppy 
images?


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Re: m68k mklibs problem?

2007-06-01 Thread Stephen R Marenka
On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 05:20:50PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
 On Friday 01 June 2007 17:07, Stephen R Marenka wrote:
  I fired up the latest daily for m68k and ran into the following
  problem.
 
  | /bin/sh: symbol lookup error: /lib/libc.so.6: undefined symbol:
  | _rtld_global
 
  Is this a mklibs problem? Any ideas?
 
 It could be. There have been changes in libc/gcc which broke library 
 reduction on most other arches. Bastian has switched mklibs to use a 
 different (custom) readelf.
 
 Do you already have the latest mklibs installed on your buildd?
 Does the problem get solved if you revert to the previous version of 
 mklibs (0.1.20)?
 
 Please make sure to test that if it does work with the old mklibs, that 
 the image actually works, as that currently is _not_ the case for alpha.
 
 If the new mklibs does not work for m68k, then please provide the output 
 of a build (for a single target) with two extra '-v' added in the mklibs 
 call in the Makefile (look for MKLIBS).
 
 Cheers,
 FJP
 
 P.S. Could you also have a look at the space problem for the m68k floppy 
 images?

I'll run some tests and then look at the floppy problem.

Thanks!

Stephen

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How to reboot from start scripts?

2007-06-01 Thread Josef Wolf
Hello!

I noticed that shutdown from scripts in /etc/rcS.d don't really work.

For example, when fsck for some filesystems fails at startup, you
are thrown into a shell to fix the problem.  From that shell, you
have no chance to make a proper reboot.  I have tried:

  - shutdown -r now
  - init 6
  - reboot
  - halt

It don't really make a difference how I try to reboot.  I alwas get
thrown out and the boot process continues.  Finally I get the login
prompt.  But I did _not_ want to continue the boot.  I said I want
to _shutdown_.  Why is this ignored?

Any ideas what I am missing here?  How do I properly reboot from
a script in /etc/rcS.d?


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Re: How to reboot from start scripts?

2007-06-01 Thread Frans Pop
On Friday 01 June 2007 18:09, Josef Wolf wrote:
 I noticed that shutdown from scripts in /etc/rcS.d don't really work.

Although the name of the list may suggest otherwise, this is not the 
correct list for this question. Please try the debian-user (or 
debian-user-german) instead.

The debian-boot list is about development of the Debian Installer, not 
boot issues.

Cheers,
FJP


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How to get proxy of installation mirror?

2007-06-01 Thread Josef Wolf
Hello,

After installation, I want to configure the proxy settings for all the
programs I use regurarly (subversion, wget, firefox, ...) automatically
via a script.  The quesstion is, how do I get this information from
debian-installer?  The only method I could find was:

  # debconf-get-selections --installer |grep proxy

but this command outputs totally unrelated lines:

  # FTP proxy information (blank for none):
  choose-mirror-bin mirror/ftp/proxy string
  choose-mirror-bin mirror/http/proxy string http://192.168.1.12:81
  d-i mirror/http/proxy string http://192.168.1.12:81

Thus I think parsing this would be very unreliable.  What I am looking
for is something like:

  # debconf-foobar --installer d-i mirror/http/proxy
  http://192.168.1.12:81

or something.  Any ideas how to retrieve specific settings from d-i?

Thanks,


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Re: How to get proxy of installation mirror?

2007-06-01 Thread Frans Pop
On Friday 01 June 2007 19:09, Josef Wolf wrote:
 but this command outputs totally unrelated lines:

What would be wrong with:
# debconf-get-selections --installer | \
 grep choose-mirror-bin mirror/http/proxy | awk '{print $4}'

I suspect the fact that mirror/http/proxy is listed both with an owner
d-i and an owner choose-mirror-bin, is because you preseeded that 
question.


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Saying goodbye as D-I Release Manager, but not to D-I

2007-06-01 Thread Frans Pop
Hello all,

Yesterday I have retired from Debian.

I have explained my reasons for that decision in detail on the 
debian-private mailing list and I will not repeat them in detail here.
The main, but not the only, reason is that my involvement in the project 
was no longer fun because of the continued personal abuse I have been 
getting on various mailing lists from a certain person. Many of you may 
not have seen much of that recently, but if you check the archives for 
the debian-project list for the end of last month you will see what I 
mean.

I would like to stress that my retirement has nothing to do with my work 
on the D-I project. As I do still enjoy working on D-I, I also do not 
plan to leave completely, but rather go back to working on it as an 
outside contributor. I've already created a -guest account on alioth and 
given myself commit access for that (I hope the other project admins 
don't mind ;-)

However, without being a member of the project, it is impossible to 
continue as D-I Release Manager and my main regret is that my retirement 
does leave D-I without an RM so suddenly.

So, the next question has to be: is there anybody interested in taking 
over that role?

I think asking on the debian-boot list first is the right thing to do.
I have of course already spoken with Joey, and he would very much prefer 
*not* to have to take over as RM again.
I will of course assist any new RM as much as possible, especially to get 
started and I expect Joey will do the same where needed.

As you all probably know, D-I is complex enough that it really needs an 
RM. As my technical skills are nothing special, the fact that I could do 
it means that it is certainly not an impossible job, although it 
certainly does require a fair commitment.

For myself, I expect I will spend less time on general things, including 
installation reports, but more on specific issues (i.e, real hacking); I 
also hope to spend more time on the installation guide.

Cheers,
FJP


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Re: floppies, a radical proposal

2007-06-01 Thread Rick Thomas


It would be really great if whatever solution results from this  
discussion were also applicable to other architectures than x86.  My  
personal interest is in PowerPC (especially OldWorld PowerMacs) and  
I'm willing to help as much as I can with the testing process (I'm  
not a developer)


Rick



On Jun 1, 2007, at 8:34 AM, Frans Pop wrote:


On Thursday 31 May 2007 20:47, peter green wrote:
Since we already know the bios can read the users floppy drive (or  
they
wouldn't have been booting off it) it would seem to make sense to  
load

all the floppies BEFORE loading linux and abandoning the bios's
services.





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Re: floppies, a radical proposal

2007-06-01 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 02:07:45PM -0400, Rick Thomas wrote:
 
 It would be really great if whatever solution results from this  
 discussion were also applicable to other architectures than x86.  My  
 personal interest is in PowerPC (especially OldWorld PowerMacs) and  
 I'm willing to help as much as I can with the testing process (I'm  
 not a developer)

Make sure you grab a copy of the moiboot packages from
http://people.debian.org/~luther/miboot, before they get erased.

Sadly,

Sven Luther


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Re: Saying goodbye as D-I Release Manager, but not to D-I

2007-06-01 Thread Christian Perrier
 I think asking on the debian-boot list first is the right thing to do.
 I have of course already spoken with Joey, and he would very much prefer 
 *not* to have to take over as RM again.
 I will of course assist any new RM as much as possible, especially to get 
 started and I expect Joey will do the same where needed.


As I probably can be considered part of the D-I core team, I think
that it is my duty to officially announce that I will not step up for
that task in case someone would have thought I could.

I still consider myself as the coordinator of the i18n activities in
D-I and will definitely continue to assume this task and therefore
assist the D-I release manager as much as I can in his/her duties.




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Re: Saying goodbye as D-I Release Manager, but not to D-I

2007-06-01 Thread Sven Luther
On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 07:41:08PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
 Hello all,
 
 Yesterday I have retired from Debian.
 
 I have explained my reasons for that decision in detail on the 
 debian-private mailing list and I will not repeat them in detail here.
 The main, but not the only, reason is that my involvement in the project 
 was no longer fun because of the continued personal abuse I have been 
 getting on various mailing lists from a certain person. Many of you may 
 not have seen much of that recently, but if you check the archives for 
 the debian-project list for the end of last month you will see what I 
 mean.

Notice that the abuse included :

  An last a personal message to Frans, remember when we where in
  Extremadura, we had a good time, and we worked side by side. I
  seriously lament that it all degenerated like it did. I certainly have
  my part of responsability in this, but i passed though times, as you
  know. Let's put pride and arrogance and remembrance of past hurts
  aside, and let's again work on d-i all together, as it should be.

And that it was you who twice asked for my expulsion from Debian.

It is really sad that you could not grow up and stopd this childish
persecution of me, and that when i proposed that we meet at FOSDEM, you
chose to ask for my expulsion instead.

Imagine what we could all have achieved in all this time if you had not
rejected all the conciliation proposal i sent your way,

Sad to see you go, and sad that debian failed in mediating this in a way
which allowed us both to have fun. Let this be a lection to the future,
of the hurt that pride can cause to all involved and bystanders.

Sadly,

Sven Luther


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Re: Saying goodbye as D-I Release Manager, but not to D-I

2007-06-01 Thread Frans Pop
On Friday 01 June 2007 20:22, Sven Luther wrote:
 Sad to see you go, and sad that debian failed in mediating this in a
 way which allowed us both to have fun. Let this be a lection to the
 future, of the hurt that pride can cause to all involved and
 bystanders.

I'd like to ask everybody to take this message as it is and to not reply 
to it. All arguments and recriminations are already known and nothing new 
can be added.

Cheers,
FJP


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Re: Saying goodbye as D-I Release Manager, but not to D-I

2007-06-01 Thread Christian Perrier
 I'd like to ask everybody to take this message as it is and to not reply 
 to it. All arguments and recriminations are already known and nothing new 
 can be added.


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Re: How to get proxy of installation mirror?

2007-06-01 Thread Josef Wolf
On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 07:24:28PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
 On Friday 01 June 2007 19:09, Josef Wolf wrote:
  but this command outputs totally unrelated lines:
 
 What would be wrong with:
 # debconf-get-selections --installer | \
  grep choose-mirror-bin mirror/http/proxy | awk '{print $4}'
 
 I suspect the fact that mirror/http/proxy is listed both with an owner
 d-i and an owner choose-mirror-bin, is because you preseeded that 
 question.

Exactly, this value was preseeded.  I am creating a customized install-cd.
From it's boot-menu the location of the newly installed system is
choosen.  Based on that choice some basic configuration options (e.g.
proxy) are preseeded.  The problem is that the proxy setting is not
propagated to all the installed programs (like wget, firefox, subversion,
etc/pp).  Thus I want to propagate this setting with the script that is
run from by late_command.  But I can't find a clean way how to retrieve
the preseeded values.


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Re: How to get proxy of installation mirror?

2007-06-01 Thread Frans Pop
On Friday 01 June 2007 22:25, Josef Wolf wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 07:24:28PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
  On Friday 01 June 2007 19:09, Josef Wolf wrote:
   but this command outputs totally unrelated lines:
 
  What would be wrong with:
  # debconf-get-selections --installer | \
   grep choose-mirror-bin mirror/http/proxy | awk '{print $4}'

 But I can't find a clean way how to retrieve the preseeded values.

Strange, I thought I had given you one with the example above :-)

You will just need to make sure that you grep on the regular owner (the 
component/udeb the template comes from) _plus_ the name of the template, 
thus:

# debconf-get-selections --installer | \
 grep owner template | awk '{print $4}'

I would avoid using the owner d-i, as that is really a pseudo-owner only 
used for preseeded questions.

Take a look at /var/lib/cdebconf/questions.dat sometime to see how the 
raw database looks.


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Re: How to get proxy of installation mirror?

2007-06-01 Thread Frans Pop
On Friday 01 June 2007 22:49, Frans Pop wrote:
 Take a look at /var/lib/cdebconf/questions.dat sometime to see how the
 raw database looks.

Note that 'debconf-get-selections --installer' does nothing more than 
parse a copy of those raw files as saved under /var/log/installer on the 
installed system... Just take a quit look at the code :-)


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Re: How to get proxy of installation mirror?

2007-06-01 Thread Josef Wolf
On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 10:49:03PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
 On Friday 01 June 2007 22:25, Josef Wolf wrote:
  On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 07:24:28PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
   On Friday 01 June 2007 19:09, Josef Wolf wrote:
but this command outputs totally unrelated lines:
  
   What would be wrong with:
   # debconf-get-selections --installer | \
grep choose-mirror-bin mirror/http/proxy | awk '{print $4}'

Ough, I've overseen those lines because my mailreader (mutt) colored
them as comments because they begin with special characters.

Sorry!

  But I can't find a clean way how to retrieve the preseeded values.
 Strange, I thought I had given you one with the example above :-)

Sorry, I've overseen them.  But I'm still not sure whether this is really
a clean way.  I am not really sure whether parsing this would be robust.
For example, in my output, there seem to be tabs, so

  egrep '^choose-mirror-bin[\t ]+mirror/http/proxy' | awk '{print $4}'

would probably be a better idea.  It seems to me that this way is
somewhat error-prone.  After all, debconf-get-selections outputs lots
of unrelated stuff (like comments) and the format of the output is not
documented.

 I would avoid using the owner d-i, as that is really a pseudo-owner only 
 used for preseeded questions.

Ah, good to know!

Thanks for your answers, Frans!


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Re: m68k mklibs problem?

2007-06-01 Thread Stephen R Marenka
On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 05:20:50PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
 On Friday 01 June 2007 17:07, Stephen R Marenka wrote:
  I fired up the latest daily for m68k and ran into the following
  problem.
 
  | /bin/sh: symbol lookup error: /lib/libc.so.6: undefined symbol:
  | _rtld_global
 
  Is this a mklibs problem? Any ideas?
 
 Do you already have the latest mklibs installed on your buildd?
 Does the problem get solved if you revert to the previous version of 
 mklibs (0.1.20)?

Yes, the failed version was with 0.1.21.

 Please make sure to test that if it does work with the old mklibs, that 
 the image actually works, as that currently is _not_ the case for alpha.

Downgrading to 0.1.20 causes the following ftbfs.

| calling mklibs-readelf --print-symbols-undefined 
./tmp/cdrom/tree/bin/cdrom-checker
| Traceback (most recent call last):
|   File /usr/bin/mklibs, line 363, in ?
| needed_symbols.update(undefined_symbols(obj))
|   File /usr/bin/mklibs, line 123, in undefined_symbols
| name, weak_string = line.split(' ', 2)
| ValueError: need more than 1 value to unpack
| make[3]: *** [stamps/tree-cdrom-stamp] Error 1
| make[2]: *** [_build] Error 2
| make[1]: *** [build_cdrom] Error 2
| make: *** [rebuild_cdrom] Error 2

However, it used to work. I downloaded an initrd from 7 May (0.1.21 was
installed to the archive on May 9) and verified that it at least lets me
chroot without the undefined symbol error (it also boots farther with
aranym). I can do a full boot test if you think it will help.

 If the new mklibs does not work for m68k, then please provide the output 
 of a build (for a single target) with two extra '-v' added in the mklibs 
 call in the Makefile (look for MKLIBS).

http://people.debian.org/~smarenka/cdrom-1.21.log.bz2

 P.S. Could you also have a look at the space problem for the m68k floppy 
 images?

There seems to be a /usr/share/acorn directory, but I haven't figured
out where it came from yet. It didn't look like the acorn keymaps were
installed. I'm sure I can drop the mac keymaps. I'll have to check on the 
amiga and atari ones.

Thanks,

Stephen

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Re: m68k mklibs problem?

2007-06-01 Thread Stephen R Marenka
On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 09:49:11PM -0500, Stephen R Marenka wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 01, 2007 at 05:20:50PM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:

  P.S. Could you also have a look at the space problem for the m68k floppy 
  images?
 
 There seems to be a /usr/share/acorn directory, but I haven't figured
 out where it came from yet. It didn't look like the acorn keymaps were
 installed. I'm sure I can drop the mac keymaps. I'll have to check on the 
 amiga and atari ones.

Errr. Hmmm. It appears that we're getting all kinds of keymaps,
including acorn, on what should be an atari only floppy. Hopefully 
that will fix it.

Peace,

Stephen

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