Re: r56776 - in trunk/packages: auto-install/debian kbd-chooser/debian localechooser/debian preseed preseed/debian

2008-11-24 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Philip Hands ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 Author: philh
 Date: Mon Nov 24 01:15:28 2008
 New Revision: 56776
 
 Log:
 use 3 flags to control the delay of kbd/localechoosers, and whether to ask 
 for preseed/url:
 /var/run/{delay-choosers,preseed_unspecified_at_boot,localechooser.been_tried},
  with preseed.sh
 now being responsible for clearing delay-choosers as soon as a preseed 
 succeeds, and
 localechooser.been_tried limiting most of localechooser.isinstallable to its 
 first run through.


Phil, I assume this will need kbd-chooser, localechooser and preseed
to be built and uploaded, right?




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Important D-I team organiz ation item : please fill in the tasks wiki page

2008-11-24 Thread Christian Perrier
As a result of a thread in this list and, mostly, as an attempt to
sort out some of the issues currently faced by the team (low manpower,
misunderstandings about who's doing what, etc.), the following wiki
page has been setup:

http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Tasks


Please fill it in if you feel in charge for a given area of Debian
Installer development and work.

Also please check whether you're listed in 
http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Team

Ideally, we should have one person in charge per line and,
preferrably, a backup person as well.

However, let's be realistic: this will not happen and we will have
*many* areas where we'll discover that noone feels more reponsible
than others for.

We need to accept this and find a solution, but let's first fill in
the blanks we can fill in. Then, we'll discuss about the remaining
bits.

I do not expect all concerned people to be listening carefully enough
here and it's likely that some tasks where someone is clearly in
charge are not filled int because..the needed person is just not
paying attention.

If you feel like someone *else than you* is in charge of something, I
propose that you put his|her nickname in face of the task, in
italics. This will allow us to later contact these persons and ask
them if to confirm if they feel in charge of task foo.




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Re: Call for testing of RC1 images - host command not installed!

2008-11-24 Thread Holger Wansing
Hi,

On Mon, 17 Nov 2008 23:08:35 +0100 Holger Wansing wrote: 
 I tried a rc1 netinst cd on my good old 32MB lowmem machine,
 a Toshiba Satellite laptop:
 No problems!

Today I wanted to try the lxde desktop on that machine. Machine ist
running, only standard system task was installed (installation
from netinst cd without a net mirror) , so I wanted to install the
related packages by hand.
But I am unable to connect to any net mirror, name resolution is
not working, the host command is not installed on the system.
And the host or bind9-host package is not on the netinst cd.

Shouldn't host command be installed with the standard system task?


Holger


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Re: r56776 - in trunk/packages: auto-install/debian kbd-chooser/debian localechooser/debian preseed preseed/debian

2008-11-24 Thread Otavio Salvador
Christian Perrier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Quoting Philip Hands ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 Author: philh
 Date: Mon Nov 24 01:15:28 2008
 New Revision: 56776
 
 Log:
 use 3 flags to control the delay of kbd/localechoosers, and whether to ask 
 for preseed/url:
 /var/run/{delay-choosers,preseed_unspecified_at_boot,localechooser.been_tried},
  with preseed.sh
 now being responsible for clearing delay-choosers as soon as a preseed 
 succeeds, and
 localechooser.been_tried limiting most of localechooser.isinstallable to its 
 first run through.


 Phil, I assume this will need kbd-chooser, localechooser and preseed
 to be built and uploaded, right?

I don't think this qualifies for Lenny.

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Please consider unblock kernel-package/11.013

2008-11-24 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi,

This version corrects a bug that caused kernel images on sparc
 to fail, and that bug is in testing as well. This closes a RC bug. (It
 has just been uploaded with a high urgency, with a one line change, the
 other changes have been in the archive for 9 days)

Other changes include:
 a) A new french translation (documentation)
 b) A lower bound on the po41 build dependency to ease backports, 
 c) Handling in kernel Xen code
 d) Include the full set of headers for the x86 architecture.

That last feature closes an important bug, so would also qualify
 for testing.

The changelog from the debdiff is appended below.

manoj

diff -Nru kernel-package-11.0011/debian/changelog 
kernel-package-11.013/debian/changelog
--- kernel-package-11.0011/debian/changelog 2008-10-17 20:57:09.0 
-0500
+++ kernel-package-11.013/debian/changelog  2008-11-24 09:55:33.0 
-0600
@@ -1,3 +1,61 @@
+kernel-package (11.013) unstable; urgency=high
+
+  * [fd7dc12] Fix gzip invocation when compressing kernel image
+
+When we factored out the copying of the kernel image source to the
+destination, we forgot to change
+  gzip -9vc SRC  DEST
+to
+ gzip -9fq DEST
+since the copying is now done earlier. This cause build failures on
+sparc. This fixes a grave bug, and the error was introduced in 11.003
+
+Bug fix: [sparc] no longer produces compressed kernels for
+linux-2.6, thanks to Frans Pop(Closes: #506711).
+
+ -- Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Mon, 24 Nov 2008 09:33:54 -0600
+
+kernel-package (11.012) unstable; urgency=low
+
+  * New bug fixing release.
+  * [3f7296a] Handle Xen code configured into modern kernels
+  
+When building a current kernel with the in-kernel xen code enabled on
+amd64, kernel-package does not recognize this correctly because it
+matches on a config variable which apparently is no longer set (or
+maybe even was never used in the in-kernel xen code). This commit adds
+an extra stanza that adds support for the Xen in new kernels. The
+suggestion and bug report were from  Michael Holzt. The patch is a
+three line change.
+  
+Bug fix: does not recognize xen enabled kernel on amd64, thanks to
+Michael Holzt  (Closes: #503686).
+  * [720444c] Add french translations for the debconf templates 
+
+This is a new french translation for debconf templates in the packages
+generated by kernel-package.
+ 
+Bug fix: [INTL:fr] French translation for debconf templates of
+generated packages, thanks to Jean-Christophe  (Closes: #503905).
+  * [debiandir:343ab3c] Update the build dependency for po4a
+  
+The version of po4a in Etch does not have the command line options we
+need; so this build dependency helps in backporting.
+
+Bug fix: Backport to Etch fails with po4a error, thanks to Carsten
+Aulbert  (Closes: #505661).
+  * [4a35a16] Use the variable LINK_ARCH to include x86 headers
+
+Use the LINK_ARCH variable instead of KERNEL_ARCGH variables in more
+places; this ensures that the headers for x86 archies do not go
+missing. We already have code to grab the headers from the new
+location; but were looking at the wrong architecture name.
+  
+Bug fix: Does not include complete asm tree in linux-headers, thanks
+to Shane Wegner. This is an important bug.(Closes: #505038).
+
+ -- Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Fri, 14 Nov 2008 23:32:44 -0600
+

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Re: Please consider unblock kernel-package/11.013

2008-11-24 Thread Luk Claes
Manoj Srivastava wrote:
 Hi,
 
 This version corrects a bug that caused kernel images on sparc
  to fail, and that bug is in testing as well. This closes a RC bug. (It
  has just been uploaded with a high urgency, with a one line change, the
  other changes have been in the archive for 9 days)
 
 Other changes include:
  a) A new french translation (documentation)
  b) A lower bound on the po41 build dependency to ease backports, 
  c) Handling in kernel Xen code
  d) Include the full set of headers for the x86 architecture.

unblocked

Cheers

Luk


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Re: r56775 - trunk/packages/base-installer/debian

2008-11-24 Thread Ian Campbell
On Sun, 2008-11-23 at 23:39 +0100, Frans Pop wrote: 
 On Sunday 23 November 2008, Ian Campbell wrote:
  Author: ijc-guest
  Date: Sun Nov 23 22:08:40 2008
  New Revision: 56775
 
  Log:
  base-installer 1.98 has been uploaded already so move my entry to new
  1.99.
 
 Please do so correctly:
 - The new entry is missing a proper signature.

This was deliberate since I'm not an uploader I didn't think it could be
my name which went there.

 - The old entry now has a double blank line.

Oops, sorry.

I've fixed both issues now.

Ian.

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Re: Call for testing of RC1 images - host command not installed!

2008-11-24 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Holger Wansing ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

 Shouldn't host command be installed with the standard system task?

The standard system task is not a task per se. This is just the
installation of all packages with priority=standard.

So, if you think that the host command should be in the standard
system, then the right package to bug about this is the one providing
it, I think.




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Re: r56776 - in trunk/packages: auto-install/debian kbd-chooser/debian localechooser/debian preseed preseed/debian

2008-11-24 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Otavio Salvador ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):

  Phil, I assume this will need kbd-chooser, localechooser and preseed
  to be built and uploaded, right?
 
 I don't think this qualifies for Lenny.


OK, sorry for misinterpreting, then.




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strange apt-setup screen

2008-11-24 Thread Ferenc Wagner
Hi,

I've pulled the netboot Xen variant and did a paravirtual
installation.  It went all right, but I noticed a mysterious empty box
on the APT setup screen: see http://apt.niif.hu/apt-config.png above
the Continue button.  Is that maybe a degenerated scrollbar, where
volatile is hiding?  It isn't included in sources.list after
installation.  I can't test it until tomorrow, but it's unfortunate
either way...
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Bug#425648: Still Seeing This in Lenny

2008-11-24 Thread Allen Cook
I'm still seeing this in QEMU 0.9.1 and Debian 40r5 AMD64 netinst CD 
from the website


grub-installer just hangs with QEMU taking up almost 100% CPU.



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Re: Bug#500119: [Pkg-utopia-maintainers] Bug#500119: Better way to avoid both knetworkmanager and nm-applet are started in parallel

2008-11-24 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Andrew Lee [Sat, 15 Nov 2008 16:11:18 +0800]:

 Cc'ed this to debian-boot and debian-release.

 Dear RMs,

 This is only one line change in nm-applet.desktop which benefit other
 Window Managers and Desktops user. Please accept this change into Lenny.

Has somebody verified that the change ensures it doesn't get started in
KDE, just as with OnlyShownIn=GNOME? Or do you have first-hand knowledge
of that? In any of those case, I'm ok with that one change.

Cheers,

 Michael Biebl wrote:
  So the only change would be in nm-applet.desktop to NotShowIn=KDE.
  I guess this change would be fine, although it's unlikely that this fix
  will make it into lenny unfortunately (unless you help me to persuade
  the RMs that this change is important enough for granting a freeze
  exception)

 We are discussing to have xfce/lxde cd image with lenny RC2 release on
 debian-book and debian-cd. And I mentioned that XFCE and LXDE also need
 wifi GUI tool such as network-manager. It's good that only a change in
 nm-applet.desktop file would make network-manager works automaticlly in
 a various Window Managers, XFCE and LXDE for our users.

  Andrew, do you also need/want the change to the nm-editor.desktop file?

 No, as you well explaned. :)

 Cheers,

 -Andrew



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Re: Call for testing of RC1 images - host command not installed!

2008-11-24 Thread Holger Wansing
Hi,

On Mon, 24 Nov 2008 18:21:48 +0100 Christian Perrier wrote:
 Quoting Holger Wansing ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
 
  Shouldn't host command be installed with the standard system task?
 
 The standard system task is not a task per se. This is just the
 installation of all packages with priority=standard.

_All_ packages with priority=standard? 
bind9-host _is_ priority=standard.
So, what's wrong here?
Are all packages with priority=standard automatically included on 
the netinst cd?


Holger

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Re: Bug#500119: [Pkg-utopia-maintainers] Bug#500119: Better way to avoid both knetworkmanager and nm-applet are started in parallel

2008-11-24 Thread Michael Biebl

Quoting Adeodato Simó [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


* Andrew Lee [Sat, 15 Nov 2008 16:11:18 +0800]:


Cc'ed this to debian-boot and debian-release.



Dear RMs,



This is only one line change in nm-applet.desktop which benefit other
Window Managers and Desktops user. Please accept this change into Lenny.


Has somebody verified that the change ensures it doesn't get started in
KDE, just as with OnlyShownIn=GNOME? Or do you have first-hand knowledge
of that? In any of those case, I'm ok with that one change.




nm-applet.desktop is installed according to the fd.o autostart spec  
(into /etc/xdg/autostart).


KDE3 does *not* support this spec (KDE4 does though), so it is  
impossible that nm-applet is autostarted in KDE. It might be  
autostarted in KDE4 though (I'd have to verify that, I don't know if  
KDE4 uses the same session identifier as KDE3 does). But as we don't  
ship KDE4 as desktop in lenny (only the libs), we are safe on this side.


Matter of fact, we could even go as far and remove the
OnlyShownIn=GNOME
line altogether for lenny.


Cheers,
Michael



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Re: Bug#500119: [Pkg-utopia-maintainers] Bug#500119: Better way to avoid both knetworkmanager and nm-applet are started in parallel

2008-11-24 Thread PCMan
Thank you all for handling this bug report.
I have related knowledge and can confirm the correctness of this fix.
Please refer to the spec:
http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/latest/ar01s05.html
quote
OnlyShowIn, NotShowIn
A list of strings identifying the environments that should display/not
display a given desktop entry. Only one of these keys, either
OnlyShowIn or NotShowIn, may appear in a group (for possible values
see the Desktop Menu Specification).
/quote
So, apparently, this fix MUST work. Otherwise, it's definitely a
serious KDE4 bug.
Cheers!

On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 5:34 AM, Adeodato Simó [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 * Andrew Lee [Sat, 15 Nov 2008 16:11:18 +0800]:

 Cc'ed this to debian-boot and debian-release.

 Dear RMs,

 This is only one line change in nm-applet.desktop which benefit other
 Window Managers and Desktops user. Please accept this change into Lenny.

 Has somebody verified that the change ensures it doesn't get started in
 KDE, just as with OnlyShownIn=GNOME? Or do you have first-hand knowledge
 of that? In any of those case, I'm ok with that one change.

 Cheers,

 Michael Biebl wrote:
  So the only change would be in nm-applet.desktop to NotShowIn=KDE.
  I guess this change would be fine, although it's unlikely that this fix
  will make it into lenny unfortunately (unless you help me to persuade
  the RMs that this change is important enough for granting a freeze
  exception)

 We are discussing to have xfce/lxde cd image with lenny RC2 release on
 debian-book and debian-cd. And I mentioned that XFCE and LXDE also need
 wifi GUI tool such as network-manager. It's good that only a change in
 nm-applet.desktop file would make network-manager works automaticlly in
 a various Window Managers, XFCE and LXDE for our users.

  Andrew, do you also need/want the change to the nm-editor.desktop file?

 No, as you well explaned. :)

 Cheers,

 -Andrew



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Re: Bug#500119: [Pkg-utopia-maintainers] Bug#500119: Better way to avoid both knetworkmanager and nm-applet are started in parallel

2008-11-24 Thread Otavio Salvador
Adeodato Simó [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 * Andrew Lee [Sat, 15 Nov 2008 16:11:18 +0800]:

 Cc'ed this to debian-boot and debian-release.

 Dear RMs,

 This is only one line change in nm-applet.desktop which benefit other
 Window Managers and Desktops user. Please accept this change into Lenny.

 Has somebody verified that the change ensures it doesn't get started in
 KDE, just as with OnlyShownIn=GNOME? Or do you have first-hand knowledge
 of that? In any of those case, I'm ok with that one change.

This is somewhat complicate to decide. I see two sides in this
question:

 1) adding Network Manager for LXDE we'll give a more ready to use
 desktop for laptop users and give some extra bonus for regular users;

 2) LXDE seems to fit very well with users wanting a low-resource
 environment and Network Manager is not thin (it bring a lot of
 libraries and consumes resources);

So personally I'm unsure which is the best option.

From my POV I believe we shouldn't add Network Manager on lxde-desktop
task since it's quite easy to do it and we can make the installation
fat for a user that is limited regarting space, memory and cpu power.

What others think about it?

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